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As society in general has bought into the sugar industry enormously since the 1960s, witnessed by epidemic numbers of people who struggle every day with weight control, a device that accurately senses blood glucose levels, combined with education, could do very well. Even devoid of greater functionality, although such would go along, the iWatch could be a hit. The question is whether or not a miniature spectrometer could be built into a chassis. Probably not but the payoff would be huge. As for me, I'd like a conventional design with physical hands and hour marks, limited visual output, inductive charging and wireless connectivity in a completely sealed device.

No device will keep a person with weak self-control from overeating or from eating unhealthily. If the data were recorded and reported to their insurance company and it had a direct impact on what they paid for insurance there might be some benefit, but bad habits are very difficult to break and now under Obamacare there is a perception that one cannot lose healthcare coverage no matter what unhealthy habits one indulges.

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If people are apathetic enough about their health enough to eat unhealthily, then I doubt appealing to their wallet or their insurance coverage will have much impact.

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No device will keep a person with weak self-control from overeating or from eating unhealthily. If the data were recorded and reported to their insurance company and it had a direct impact on what they paid for insurance there might be some benefit, but bad habits are very difficult to break and now under Obamacare there is a perception that one cannot lose healthcare coverage no matter what unhealthy habits one indulges.

Thanks for your reply. What you have argued is important to what might be possible. Knowledge empowers but often we deliberately avoid knowing. It's amazing to what degree we'll go to ignore developing issues. My brother did, apparently knew for years he might have problems in his large bowel (of which I was unaware) and died of bowel cancer last year. However, education and information push to greater knowledge and the opportunity to make informed decisions. I'm going with 'tell me what is going on with my body and help me know how to deal with it'. Consider this though... should Apple get there with this, I'd buy the device and possibly the service but I would not, unequivocally, if it was Giggle or facepalm who do it. I want a company I trust to make this a reality.

 

All the best.

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post #44 of 46
The analyst is way off base. As someone wh has been an Apple follower for almost three decades, i'd predict it will be built like a crazy exotic piece of swiss jewelry with an MRSP north of $500 & margins > 40%. It will revolutionize what we think a watch will do & take over the wrist world. Think the cell phone pre-iphone fools.
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As someone who's followed the entire tech industry for more than three decades and knows what's technologically possible, I predict that it will be a stylish wristband (metal) with a sapphire-covered OLED display that shows a few built-in apps and is capable of displaying notifications from its companion iPhone.  It'll also let you make and accept phone calls via the built-in speaker and microphone.  Using same, it'll also let you give voice commands and hear Siri's responses.  It'll also sport a few sensors (health and position-relative-to-body) that it'll feed to the iPhone and, by extension, any iPhone-based app that cares about the data.  The watch will be water proof and, therefore, wirelessly charged.

 

I can't imagine Apple selling a watch that will have to be charged every day or even every other day (like the Samsung Gear).  So either Apple figured out how to build very thin and flexible batteries that can be incorporated into the wrist band and/or it has made the device very energy-frugal.  Ergo, I don't think the iWatch will have its own cellular capability.  Heck, it might not even have its own wifi (although that's far fetched since one of the built-in capabilities would surely be to act as a remote control for an iTV and/or home automation devices).  Third-party apps can consume a lot of energy too (I'm looking at you Facebook!), so I doubt that Apple will even allow third-party apps on the iWatch.  But given that iPhone-based apps will be able to easily interact with the iWatch, that's not much of a downer, in my opinion.

 

I think Apple will sell the iWatch for around $300, not north of $500.  But even at $300, it'll be able to achieve a >40% margin.

 

YMMV :-)

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For father's day I bought myself a watch in the area Apple probably and hopefully should cover. I did a ton of research there and you'd be surprised at what can and can't work there.

 

For the record I also own an iPod Nano 6th generation with a watch band aka the "original iWatch"

 

Because Craigslist is my friend and because I have an interest in this area, I also own an Timex Global Trainer and a Nike+ Sport Watch.

 

For Father's Day the kid went and gave me what I requested which is the Tomtom Multisport GPS.

 

I suspect the Apple watch will be some cross between it and the Garmin Forerunner 620 and the new Tomtom Multisport GPS with built in HRM. It would be especially cool if Apple could reincorporate some click wheel action back into a design similar to the Garmin 620.

 

So big differences between the watch world and the smartphone world are screen size vs information being presented and very limited battery life. Tomtom partnered with Nike for their first watch and their second version is even better. They are the same size as day to day watches and cram a ton of useful functionality into a very small space. The Tomtom has accelerometers, 10 hrs of GPS life and a heart rate monitor build into a watch that is super light and looks like a regular watch.

 

The trade-offs are often color with regard to screen. It is hard to get a bright enough screen given the battery constraints and size. My iPod Nano watch is pretty much useless outdoors in terms of seeing the screen. Apple clearly realized a problem with the size as well when they offered the option of turning off the small icons in a grid of four and showing only one large icon at a time. Let us remember that Apple's original concept for the iPhone didn't have apps. It allowed them via HTML only.

 

A second issue with these GPS/sport watches is programming and websites. Basically they don't play very nice with each other.

 

Apple can basically take over the market if they produce a watch that partners well with the iPhone via low power bluetooth (maybe wifi), that has custom silicon that track pedometer and accelerometer movements with very little power and that can track requested information via GPS using smart sampling in the manner Apple does best. Smart sampling can dramatically alter the battery life of such a watch and they clearly have experience doing this with the iPhone and location tracking. The premium model can include a heart rate monitor.

 

The display needs to be viewable all the time and in daylight. Perhaps color e-paper or just black and white. The reality is that most uses of color and most other display technologies just don't solve the problem here.

 

Apple needs to have all the API's in place that allow the information from this watch to be shared with iPhone apps and websites. It can quickly swamp other standards and become the de-facto standard. The watch itself doesn't need to run apps. It needs to do things the iPhone cannot do like activity monitoring, going into the pool to record swims, vibration alerts from a purse, etc. When you buy a larger phone, you become less likely to just pocket it. (The largest phones I see used are done so by women always carrying a purse.) You don't need to feel a vibration alert from your phone when you can get it from your wrist.

 

So basically take the Tomtom Multisport with GPS. Remove the little pad below. Add the Garmin Forerunner 620 circle and call it the new clickwheel. Get the software straightened out in classic Apple fashion (For example the Tomtom doesn't feature auto-pause when doing an activity, a strange omission.) Have it able to vibrate your wrist with notifications for alarms, reminders and text messages from your iPhone (thus encouraging the Apple ecosystem), perhaps include a mic for Siri and finally it must be waterproof.

 

Apple would easily be able to charge $250-$400 for such an item. Competitors already get that for their inferior and miss-mash solutions.

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