Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost
In this post and many others, you have demonstrated that you have a complex about racism, bigotry-whatever that means, and inferiority. We constantly judge people on the slightest detail, for good reason. If you go to a bank for a loan dressed in rags and smell of weed and vomit, you are unlikely to be looked kindly upon, unless you are a known customer with a good reputation. If you wear a suit and present yourself well, you are more likely to be viewed seriously. That's nothing to do with inferiority, a word which you have put into mstone's mouth.
I absolutely take issue with this silly notion of racism and all the foolish lies fearful and ignorant people tell themselves that they aren't being racist. Like when some decides to refer to "the blacks" as rappers and call their clothing rags and say they smell of weed and vomit. All that speaks to underlying racism based on some learned and cultivation notion that if someone looks a certain way they are a certain way.
We constantly judge people on the slightest detail, for good reason. If you go to a bank for a loan dressed in rags and smell of weed and vomit, you are unlikely to be looked kindly upon, unless you are a known customer with a good reputation. If you wear a suit and present yourself well, you are more likely to be viewed seriously. That's nothing to do with inferiority, a word which you have put into mstone's mouth.
No one is saying you shouldn't constantly analyst a situation but to take one stereotype which you then propagate into another stereotype to work yourself into some frenzy that FOX News would have been proud of broadcast is irrational. You need to analyze the situation, not make sweeping claims with no proof because you've been taught to be afraid. You can choose to be better than that.
Your dark alleyway paragraph is ludicrous. Any group of men jumping out at you is liable to instil fear, regardless of what they are wearing. And you compare it to a group of students in a college!
My examples was worded exactly how I intended to show you that a reasonable response should have nothing to do with he color of one's skin or this "gangsta" clothing you guess like to call it but rather many circumstances that should tell a reasonable person why one situation isn't a fine and the other might be cause to be more aware. The answer is to thinking smarter, not double down on your bigotry.
Sorry to be harsh, but you have a real chip on your shoulder when it comes to issues of race, which I find a shame, because it weakens your arguments. In my experience, when accusations of racism start to get thrown around, intelligent discourse has left the building.
You think my argument would be stronger if I took drblank's "Dr. Dre is a black rapper who comes from a culture I don't fully understand so I should be fearful and distrust him" position? Now that's funny. Discourse comes from looking at why you feel you can't distrust someone because their culture is slightly different from yours. Learning comes from trying to understand why you become so fearful by seeing a man wearing expensive clothes whose brands you can't name and would never wear. It all boils down to racism, bigotry, elitist and hatred for thinking these people whom you have grown up believing are below you and now you get to see how wealthy, powerful, and successful they really are. I'd prefer to be happy for them whilst working to accomplish the same. Dr. Dre, Sean Combs, and Oprah aren't to be hated but admired.