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Even then, I would say that they have a less than even chance of making significant profit with it. In fact, I would even go so far as to say that even breaking even is not a given, though I suppose they might eventually; it depends how events pan out.

Yep.  Most places, the second cable company has never bothered to overlay a second cable system, so unless they have some magic, hard to imagine how they will profit from it.  Unless they're betting on net neutrality going completely wrong and being The Gatekeeper, or using a war chest to undercut existing cable, or linking the so far unlinkable...

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The other unreasonable demand from these clowns is that Apple stick to a thee year cycle of game-changing, industry-disruptive "new market" product releases that Google and Samsung and Microsoft are ready to copy, once Apple shows the way. And if Apple should miss this three year cycle of innovation, Tim Cook will be blamed, Apple shall be declared in decline, and comparison to Google's high-publicity X lab projects shall be invoked to "prove" that Apple's best days are behind it.

Fear not.  MS would never let their de-facto R&D department to fail in such a way.  

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Apple's performance over the last year is leading the NASDAQ, the Dow and even beating Google, along with Microsoft, HP and of course, BlackBerry (Apple is the top blue line, above).

 

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"..and of course, Blackberry..."

 

That says a lot right there.  Apple...from nowhere to leading the pack in just 7 years now.  But they have been for quite some time.

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This Chen guy sounds like an Asian Jayson Blair. A liar and a fraud of a journalist. I'm not at all surprised that the NYT would hire such a fraud and a liar of a journalist to pen any articles for them.

 

The asshole couldn't have been more wrong. Japan is one of the countries in the world where the iPhone is most popular. What's his motive for lying through his teeth?

 

The truth and the facts don't matter at all to many so-called tech journalists who write about Apple. 

 

Many of them are merely terrible propagandists and liars, and they make Nazis like Goebbels look good in comparison.

Truth and facts don't matter at all to MOST journalists. Remember what they do for a living...they write stuff and get paid for doing it.  Whether they write the truth or not is mostly immaterial.  In a couple of weeks the fact that they proved to be be absurd and inaccurate will not even be noticed.

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We can hate on the Times for this (and many other things) all we want but the bottom line is that they're right. Since Jobs died, what new items has Apple come out with? Cook's done little more than polish up what's already available with pieces that should've been in there to begin with! Look at WWDC- all these software enhancements that's disguised by "innovation" are just things that we've all been wondering why we didn't have them from the get-go. If you think I'm wrong, then take your apple stuff out of their boxes and actually use them. Oooooh TouchID is now open to devs- that's something for a .1 bump. Not a whole years worth of R&D.

 

what? so i imagine you believe all that innovative software covered at WWDC just....falls off trees? doesnt take time to think about, plan out, implement correctly, etc... c'mon, get real. 

 

my idevices work very well out of the box. maybe youve broken yours?

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We can hate on the Times for this (and many other things) all we want but the bottom line is that they're right. Since Jobs died, what new items has Apple come out with? Cook's done little more than polish up what's already available with pieces that should've been in there to begin with! Look at WWDC- all these software enhancements that's disguised by "innovation" are just things that we've all been wondering why we didn't have them from the get-go. If you think I'm wrong, then take your apple stuff out of their boxes and actually use them. Oooooh TouchID is now open to devs- that's something for a .1 bump. Not a whole years worth of R&D.

What has Ford done after inventing the Model T and Model A? Epic fail.
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What has Ford done after inventing the Model T and Model A? Epic fail.

I really don't get the handwringing over Apple's supposed lack of competitiveness in inventing the next big thing. Such impatience over not getting unspecified future innovations. That always seemed ultra suspicious to me, and I question the motive and sincerity of it all. It doesn't smell right. It's like saying, "I'm really impatient for the next big thing from Apple, even if I can't say what that is that I'm waiting for." Self-driving cars? Asteroid mining? Is that really what they're demanding from Apple? No (yet somehow, it's awesome sauce when Google does it, go figure).

So I conclude that the only reason people like @AjbDtc826 keep making such arguments is to bad mouth Apple (or Tim Cook) for not being Google enough. On the other hand, if there's even an ounce of sincerity for concern over Apple's competitiveness, how will posting about it on these forums change Apple in a positive way? (It won't, and that was never his intention).

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post #128 of 133
So, is it googlesung paying for these attack stories or WallyStreet? The quality of "journalism" has been deteriorating since the eighties, but the acceleration in lies, inaccuracies or just plain incompetence is spiraling out of control. No wonder fewer people are buying their product when for anyone with secondary or tertiary eduction with any ability to think rationally, it's obvious that most of the items are, at best, advertorials, but often just lies or spin.
Having worked in a national newscaff organisation for over thirty years, I've seen this deterioration first hand and it's sickening. It starts with the "more with less" bs, then as the corporate prescence grows, more ignorants and sociopaths are employed that toe the new line or enforce it. Those with a conscience or work ethic or know where the bodies are buried, are beaten down and driven out and the remainder are blackmailed into conceding because they have mortgages or families. Others take the bribes to write or produce flattering stories about their owners and attack their competitors.
All "news" needs to be taken with toxic amounts of salt, basically just follow the money.
Obviously there are some independent and/or ethical sources, but it is difficult to survive just on concience.
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Yeah just proves Steve wasn't always right.

Seriously? What idiot telegraphs what their plans are to the competition? Business geniuses like you two apparently. Steve pulled that trick several times but eventually the morons figured it out, so it wasn't worth trying any more.
As far as product decisions went in private, there are many stories about how Steve would accept alternate ideas if the proponents made a strong enough case. Very sensible really.
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Thank you for making me aware of this nice article in the New York Times, Eran. It is an interesting and well-written article.

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The New York Times has "reporters" who are creating clearly false and skewed articles about Apple.

I think the New York Times needs to shore up its ethics and fire these "reporters".

 

If they fired all their crappy reporters there'd be no one left to write any articles.

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If you mention driverless cars and asteroid mining, you're forgetting an important detail. Neither of those are anywhere near close to being in the hands of a customer. Google has great ideas. Driverless cars, jetpacks, and asteroid mining are examples of that. But an idea is worthless unless Google can capitalize on it. That's what matters in business and that's not Google's strong suit.

 

And you say Apple isn't the "Willy Wonka" of the tech world. First of all, how do you know that Apple isn't trying at least some of the things Google publicly talks about? It's no secret that Apple is very secretive. Why are you totally discounting the possibility that the only reason we know about driverless cars and asteroid mining is that Google is so public about it?

 

Also, being the "Willy Wonka of the tech world" is worthless if it's not generating cash. That's what matters in business. You wanting Apple to get their hands into just about everything physical in the world sounds great but it's just not a smart business decision. Apple got to where they are today by being laser-focused on what matters. Going into everything just because they can is disastrous thinking.

 

Great ideas are a dime a dozen. Execution is all that matters.

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Well I'd have used the John Lennon/George Harrison analogy rather than Lenno/Starr one.

Cos as any guitarist will tell you, whilst John and Paul got the glory, the part of the beatles sound that defined almost any beatles song was innevitably the George Harrison guitar lick that the poor guy almost never got credit for.
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