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Apple, Samsung 'trying to find common ground' in patent war - report

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A resolution to the long-running intellectual property battle between Apple and Samsung could be drawing near, as a Wednesday report out of South Korea suggested that the tech titans are working toward an agreement that would allow their important supplier relationship to continue.

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"We are trimming down the number of disputed issues," an unnamed "industry official" told the Korea Times. "We no longer want to spend time talking about secondary points. Both firms are trying to find common ground."

The talks are said to be at a "working level," and both companies are believed to have taken a more pragmatic approach to burying the hatchet following Apple's repeated legal victories over the South Korean giant. In addition to winning import bans on Samsung products in a number of jurisdictions around the world, Apple has been awarded nearly $1 billion in U.S.-based patent infringement lawsuits.

Also at stake is Samsung's place as one of Apple's favored component suppliers. Along with a number of other parts, Samsung currently fabricates Apple's A-series processors at a Texas facility and is though to be aiming to win a contract to supply OLED displays for Apple's so-called "iWatch."

Apple is also said to be eager to continue the relationship, which has enabled the iPhone maker to ship nearly 1 billion iOS devices over the last seven years.

"As technology shifts toward wearable devices, Apple still wants to keep Samsung as its top-tier parts sourcing channel," another source told the paper.
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Both companies need each other. Apple needs Samsung as they can supply to both the demand and the quality required. This is easily infered by the fact that Samsung is still supplying Apple and hasn't been cut out of that loop. Despite all the people demanding Apple drop Samsung as a supplier or saying in the very near future they will drop them.
Samsung needs Apple for its r &d lol
Sooner or later a big wedge of cash will change hands and an agreement will be signed and the patent war will be over.
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Samsung could offer Apple the opportunity to put iAds on their Tizen phones, that would probably be worth as much as the settlements.

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post #4 of 24
It's not surprising that Apple have a lot more sense than their so-called supporters who start frothing at the mouth every time the name Samsung is mentioned.
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Both companies need each other. Apple needs Samsung as they can supply to both the demand and the quality required. This is easily infered by the fact that Samsung is still supplying Apple and hasn't been cut out of that loop. Despite all the people demanding Apple drop Samsung as a supplier or saying in the very near future they will drop them.
Samsung needs Apple for its r &d lol
Sooner or later a big wedge of cash will change hands and an agreement will be signed and the patent war will be over.

 

You mean Samsung needs Apple's fashion design R&D?  LOL

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I see no reason why Apple can't become their own component supplier in the future.

They have the foresight, the patience, the capability, the capital, and they hate relying on unreliable outside sources.

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post #7 of 24
I smell click-bait, not a story.

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Common ground: Apple has patents, Samsung stole them.

 

Boom. Found it. Case closed.

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yeah the scale has now tipped in Apple favor and Samsung has to decide weather future opportunities are worth the ongoing fights. We all know Samsung tactics and they were only able to pull off what they did because of Android, if Google never put android on the market, do you think that Samsung would have sold as much as they did. It would have been Apple, BB, Nokia, and a bunch of other phone companies putting out some variant of mobile Java products. Google Enable Samsung, and with Apple undisclosed truce with Google Samsung may be realizing their cell phone future could be bleak.

 

The Samsung mother ship has to decide if being cut out of future apple products is worth what they are doing today. You know the saying keep your enemies very close to you.


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yeah the scale has not tipped in Apple favor and Samsung has to decide weather future opportunities are worth the ongoing fights. We all know Samsung tactics and they were only able to pull off what they did because of Android, if Google never put android on the market, do you think that Samsung would have sold as much as they did. It would have been Apple, BB, Nokia, and a bunch of other phone companies putting out some variant of mobile Java products. Google Enable Samsung, and with Apple undisclosed truce with Google Samsung may be realizing their cell phone future could be bleak.

The Samsung mother ship has to decide if being cut out of future apple products is worth what they are doing today. You know the saying keep your enemies very close to you.

Android has also been a crux of the legal problems. The last trial consisted solely of features built into Android. In hindsight it's been beneficial, but they had no way of knowing that in the beginning.
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It's not surprising that Apple have a lot more sense than their so-called supporters who start frothing at the mouth every time the name Samsung is mentioned.

There was one guy who used to keep posting "frothing at the mouth" anti-Samsung rhetoric who used (obviously, to me at least) fake, bad English. Most regular forum citizens knew he was a false flag, but some people thought what he was posting was sincere.

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I smell click-bait, not a story.

No, but I bet they can still write three articles about it, complete with illustrations from Martin Hajeck and a reach around to Ming-chi Kuo.

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They should both just follow Tesla's lead and drop the patents entirely.  Apple is going to win either way, so why continue wasting so much energy?

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I see no reason why Apple can't become their own component supplier in the future.

They have the foresight, the patience, the capability, the capital, and they hate relying on unreliable outside sources.

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Because they don't have the patents Samsung has.

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Originally Posted by Freshmaker View Post
They should both just follow Tesla's lead and drop the patents entirely.  Apple is going to win either way, so why continue wasting so much energy?

 

This is a ludicrous statement.

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Apple, Samsung 'trying to find common ground' in patent war - report

 

"There is no common ground to be found while standing on my private property Samsung." -Apple

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They both steal sh**!

Then they use their high paid lawyers to battle it out in the arena. 

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They both steal sh**!

Then they use their high paid lawyers to battle it out in the arena.


So true.  Apple and Samsung both steal or copy.  But Apple is the jerk here wasting everyone's money by initiating frivolous lawsuits using stolen/prior ideas like rectangular shape, slide-to-unlock which is copied from Neonode, universal search etc.

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They both steal sh**!
Then they use their high paid lawyers to battle it out in the arena.


So true.  Apple and Samsung both steal or copy.  But Apple is the jerk here wasting everyone's money by initiating frivolous lawsuits using stolen/prior ideas like rectangular shape, slide-to-unlock which is copied from Neonode, universal search etc.

You should read into these patents before making statements like these. If you did, you would understand what exactly, these patens entail.
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You should read into these patents before making statements like these. If you did, you would understand what exactly, these patens entail.


Are you saying Apple exploited the technicalities of the patent system to patent seemingly prior arts/ideas and used them to sue the competitors?  Come on, nothing about the slide-to-unlock, rectangular shaped tablet or universal search patents are ever original ideas by Apple.  I dont have to read about the legal mumble-jumble of the patent documents to know Apple exploited the patent and nationalistic sentiment of American people/court to its advantage.

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These days, Amazon is the one who is trying to 'bury the hatchet.' Apple is reviving it.
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post #22 of 24
Some software patents probably took a big hit today, with SCOTUS ruling 9-0 that simply performing an otherwise known procedure but adding "on a computer" was not patentable.
http://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/13pdf/13-298_7lh8.pdf

PatentlyO has put up an article
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2014/06/claims-invalid-section.html

EDIT: Looks like at least one patent lawyer who also runs a high-profile blog, Gene Quinn, is mighty irritated at today's ruling.
http://www.ipwatchdog.com/2014/06/19/scotus-rules-alice-software-claims-patent-ineligible/id=50120/
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Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post
But Apple is the jerk here wasting everyone's money by initiating frivolous lawsuits using stolen/prior ideas like rectangular shape, slide-to-unlock which is copied from Neonode, universal search etc.

 

/s. Now shush.

 

Originally Posted by zerobim08 View Post
Are you saying Apple exploited the technicalities of the patent system to patent seemingly prior arts/ideas and used them to sue the competitors?


You are, at least.

 
…mumble-jumble…

 

Mumbo-jumbo.

 
…Apple exploited the… …nationalistic sentiment…

 

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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Android has also been a crux of the legal problems. The last trial consisted solely of features built into Android. In hindsight it's been beneficial, but they had no way of knowing that in the beginning.

The internal Samsung documents comparing Apple's solution to their own solution were not built into Android but were added by Samsung.

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