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Microsoft on Friday announced it will be "retiring" older desktop versions of Skype for both Windows and Mac, forcing existing users to upgrade to the latest edition of the popular voice over IP service.



Skype, which was purchased by Microsoft in 2011 for $8.5 billion, noted the upcoming change in a post to its official blog.

"We are going to retire older versions of Skype for Windows desktop (6.13 and below) as well as Skype for Mac (6.14 and below) over the next few months," the company said.

While the term "retire" was not clarified in the post, Computerworld later verified with Microsoft that users running these older versions will not be able to log in until they upgrade. In other words, the upgrades are mandatory.

It is unclear why Skype is forcing users to download newer builds of its communications client, though it is theorized that Microsoft may be implementing a new baseline service to support upcoming features.

In May, Skype teased a real-time translation feature that will be consumer ready sometime this year. At the time, Microsoft said it is planning to harvest data from real Skype conversations to achieve higher levels of accuracy, a system that could possibly require a reworking of Skype's backend.

The most current version of Skype for Mac is 6.18, which can be downloaded for free from the company's website.
post #2 of 57
That means the ppc version will also stop working. Without getting an update. 1frown.gif
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and it will now be called microsoft messenger...

post #4 of 57
No need for Skype on OS X and iOS anymore use FaceTime or FaceTime voice for free.
post #5 of 57
Sure, if you only want to talk to people that have iPhones and/or Macs. I don't have technical prerequisites for my friends or colleagues.

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post #6 of 57
It's quite clear why Microsoft must force this upgrade. I used to like Skype, but then came the UI changes just before Microsoft bought them. That made Skype into the worst--bar none--UI on the Mac. I quit using Skype. Others apparently stuck with those older versions instead, hence this need to force them to update.
A better-run organization would give OS X and iOS versions a Mac-like UI rather that a Microsoft one.
post #7 of 57
I wish more companies would do things like this. It would force corporate IT folks to stop being at least a year or two behind on everything.
post #8 of 57
Skype used to be the defacto video call, even though it was rubbish it was better than the mac effort. Since FaceTime however, this has all changed, FaceTime is very good (still room for improvement), and since Skype wen t all Microsoft then it got ruined. I use FaceTime exclusively for video and audio chats with colleagues and friends, but they are all Apple. If you are PC based the I suppose you will be used to poor quality in everything you buy, and Microsiftified Skype will be lovely for you. Bye bye Skype.
post #9 of 57
Facetime is not replacement for Skype. Just because they can be used for vaguely similar things does not mean they are used for same purpose.

Skype is a first and foremost VOIP client. You can make calls to regular phones/mobiles anywhere in the world. Unlimited world subscription costs just $130 for a year! Unlimited North America calling for a month costs just $2. This means you can call any mobile or house phone and talk for entire month for just $2.

In addition Skype has a decent cross platform screen sharing feature.

I love Skype on my iPhone. I can be cycling out in the boonies and talk to my sister in Europe on her mobile phone at the same time. And the bandwidth demands are very very low.

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post #10 of 57
I forcibly retired Skype a couple of years ago. Haven't used it once since then.

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post #11 of 57
It's absolutely clear why they're forcing the upgrades: So they can monetize the service.

Older versions used to allow you to share screens, but in newer versions that's a paid feature. They pull features and charge for them as they upgrade the software.
post #12 of 57
It will likely have a built in advertisement banner and auto update "feature."

It would be nice if they built it with "Instant Messenger" but I hope the client can sit around and not suck up resources and the UI be improved.

I'm hoping Microsoft doesn't stick their foot in it like they did with the xBox One. Maybe they've learned they have to compete in a market rather than dictate -- but old habits die hard.

I also hope that calling phones won't be so dang expensive in Skype.
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No need for Skype on OS X and iOS anymore use FaceTime or FaceTime voice for free.

1) I never made any regular Skype calls but I did use it for Skype Out to a phone number and even had a Skype In number. That all changed once Google offered Google Voice numbers for free. That is the now the number I give for anything non-personal as opposed to giving out my home or cellphone number.

2) It doesn't get talked about much but FaceTme and iMessage have been extremely disruptive despite being proprietary services that only exist on Apple devices. Just two days ago I finally pulled the plug on using Adium, a great Mac app that allows for the collation of various messaging systems. I simply don't use Yahoo! Messenger, AIM, MSN Messenger, or GTalk any longer to talk with friends and family. It's all done through the much more convenient and powerful iMessage (and to a lesser extent email and phone).

3) Oddly, I do still need to maintain AIM and GTalk accounts a this is the only way to share a Mac screen via the Messages app née iChat (not iMessage service) when trying to assist friends and family. I'd love for Apple to finally allow that to happen, as well as make it possible to share an iOS-based device, since all the protocols are there.

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post #14 of 57
I haven't used Skype in years. FaceTime is mostly used in our household. For long distance phone services there are many VOIP services out there. I have been using Localphone for a couple of years and I have no complaints. Ridiculously cheap.
post #15 of 57

Probably because the newer versions contain the latest NSA backdoors.

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post #16 of 57

I don't use Skype since it was purchased and spoiled by M$. FaceTime is OK for my needs.

post #17 of 57
MichaelOfTroy -

It's not us IT guys that are slow to upgrade to the latest software - we want to do this as it's better or more secure. The true culprit is either money or incompatibilities.

Upgrading to the lasted paid Adobe, Microsoft, SAP, Siebel, etc apps/systems for 16,000 employees costs millions. Further, their are usually dependancies everyone has built on the software elsewhere. It's not the IT guy's fault he can't deploy the latest version of IE, it's all the websites that were built to use IE6, 7, 8, 9, etc. I want to deploy IE10. Can't - Siebel and SAP don't work with the version that we have running. Why? Because upgrading those would cost millions. That's IF the companies using Microsoft's ecosystem bother to keep up with the latest browsers.

Quit kicking the IT guy. You want the latest version of Skype? Go install it.
post #18 of 57

The only thing this will accomplish for Microsoft is a complete decimation of their OS X and iOS share base, switching to iMessage.

 

Never mind on their own side of things, as people don’t like the new designs there, either.

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In May, Skype teased a real-time translation feature that will be consumer ready sometime this year. At the time, Microsoft said it is planning to harvest data from real Skype conversations to achieve higher levels of accuracy, a system that could possibly require a reworking of Skype's backend.

 

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post #20 of 57
NSA needs an updated backdoor in Skype.
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Facetime is not replacement for Skype. Just because they can be used for vaguely similar things does not mean they are used for same purpose.

Skype is a first and foremost VOIP client. You can make calls to regular phones/mobiles anywhere in the world. Unlimited world subscription costs just $130 for a year! Unlimited North America calling for a month costs just $2. This means you can call any mobile or house phone and talk for entire month for just $2.

In addition Skype has a decent cross platform screen sharing feature.

I love Skype on my iPhone. I can be cycling out in the boonies and talk to my sister in Europe on her mobile phone at the same time. And the bandwidth demands are very very low.

 

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Why pay for anything else?

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and it will now be called microsoft messenger...

 

...or, given its legendary freezing and MS' current focus on all thing Google, "Hangups".....

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post #23 of 57

I use Skype all the time. Works fine. I have Skype numbers, account balance for calling minutes, etc. Very useful app. I also use Facetime with friends and family who I know have Apple devices, but a lot of my overseas business contacts are on Windows and use Skype, so having MS continue to update and improve it is important for me.

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post #24 of 57

Here's one product that won't need a mandatory upgrade...

My middle finger.

Bite me MS!

post #25 of 57
When M$ bought Skype, I feared this day was coming.

So what other "cross platform" voice and video App is there?

So much for PPC Skype, I suspect early Intel Mac 10.6 will soon go to history as well.

Yes Skype on my iPhone is great to avoid huge roaming charges.
The best deal for me is a simple Skype account for about $14, which lasts forever if you use it at least every 3 months.
Skype calls to phones almost everywhere in the world are only about 4¢ per minute.
post #26 of 57
Skype absolutely sucks, always has. Even voice calls are unreliable and if poor quality. But worst of all, I live overseas and have a US number so clients can easily contact me. The recent iPhone update is incompatible with voice mail!!! WTF Microsucks, why would you ever release this POS!!!???
post #27 of 57
They paid $8.5Bn for Skype? What multiple of earnings was that?

And Apple built FaceTime in house...I get that Skype does a few more things, but that says a lot I think...
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That means the ppc version will also stop working. Without getting an update. 1frown.gif
How about that. Obsolete tech is being tossed aside like garbage it is.

You either get with the times or you get left behind.
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I use Skype all the time. Works fine. I have Skype numbers, account balance for calling minutes, etc. Very useful app. I also use Facetime with friends and family who I know have Apple devices, but a lot of my overseas business contacts are on Windows and use Skype, so having MS continue to update and improve it is important for me.

Works on windows, Mac and iOS. Lots of people I need to communicate with have it. It's very popular in Asia.

It almost always works for me. I do tons of free conference calls with it.

Some of you whiners would complain if MS gave away $20 bills, and would buy Ferrero Rocher made from used cat litter, if Apple told you it was "cool"...
post #30 of 57
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That means the ppc version will also stop working. Without getting an update. 1frown.gif

There is no sense to continue supporting hardware that no longer has a user-base. As a software engineer, I have had to make calls to drop support for Mac OS versions and hardware because maintaining compatibility had no ROI due to a small user-base and was a support nightmare.
post #31 of 57

It is a popular app. Maybe it will make people update their OS X. If they put it on the App Store, people will have to update to 10.6 at least.

post #32 of 57
They already don't allow the 2.x versions to do video. So I use the newer version only when I need video. Otherwise I stick to the 2.7 client because it takes up much less screen real estate.
post #33 of 57
People are missing the obvious. They are forcing the upgrade because the older clients do not have the NSA backdoor.
post #34 of 57
This is all obviously some plan to capitalize on Microsofts domination of the mobile market ... oh wait a minute ...
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post #35 of 57

Can I use FaceTime to contact clients who use Windows PCs or Android tablets?

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Can I use FaceTime to contact clients who use Windows PCs or Android tablets?

Given FaceTime is not supported on the most popular desktop and mobile operating systems nationally or worldwide, I have not had much use for it myself. I use Skype myself as an alternative to Ventrillo and TeamSpeak for online gaming.
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Can I use FaceTime to contact clients who use Windows PCs or Android tablets?

You should be able to when Apple open sources it as they promised.

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You should be able to when Apple open sources it as they promised.

Given that was promised four years ago, and by somebody now deceased, I would not hold my breath that FaceTime becoming an open standard is any longer on Apple's radar.
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Originally Posted by Negafox View Post
Given FaceTime is not supported on the most popular… …mobile operating systems nationally…

 

You’ll want to check yourself before you wreck yourself. :p

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You’ll want to check yourself before you wreck yourself. 1tongue.gif

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