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German automaker Audi -- a founding member of Google's Android-based Open Automotive Alliance -- on Thursday announced that it has undertaken "intensive dialog" with Apple to integrate the iPhone maker's CarPlay system into new vehicles beginning in 2015.




Audi, which until now did not have a publicly-disclosed relationship with Apple, says it has worked to separate the vehicular and entertainment functions of its in-car system and will add both CarPlay and Android Auto to future releases. Consumers will be able to choose between the platforms "at any time."

"Our customers want to be 'always on' and use the services they know from their smartphones in cars as well," Audi board member Prof. Dr. Ulrich Hackenberg said in a release. "In this regard, we are working closely with leading companies like Google and Apple. In the future, customers will be able to use the functions available to them on their smartphones via the operating systems in their cars as well."

Audi's Silicon Valley development lab has been working with Apple to complete the integration. At press time, Apple had not yet added Audi's famous rings to the official partners list.

As the mobile device market matures, cars are becoming an increasingly important battlefield for manufacturers seeking to differentiate their ecosystems.

Apple unveiled CarPlay, n?e iOS in the Car, at last year's Worldwide Developers Conference with a wide-ranging line of partners from Ferrari to Kia. The initiative gained steam at this year's Geneva Motor Show when models from Ferrari, Volvo, and Mercedes-Benz were revealed as the first to sport the new system in 2014.

Google, meanwhile, introduced the Open Automotive Alliance with Audi, GM, and Hyundai earlier this year and showed off the first version of Android Auto at this week's I/O conference in San Francisco.
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Audi […] has worked to separate the vehicular and entertainment functions of its in-car system and will add both CarPlay and Android Auto to future releases. Consumers will be able to choose between the platforms "at any time."

I hope this puts to rest both the concerns about having to buy a car that only supports one or the other as well as comments about not buying a car that has Android in it.

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Fingers crossed for news from BMW soon.... otherwise my next car will an Audi again.

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Anytime now Volkswagen...
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Should probably explain the differences between these things, because they are not the same...

Android Auto is Google's answer to Apple's CarPlay. These are basically protocols that allow connected devices to utilize a car's built-in components as if they were peripherals; display, microphones, speakers, etc...

The Open Automotive Alliance is Google's answer to QNX. These are operating systems that are installed on the car's console and control all the car's features.

At the announcement, Apple's Car Play only worked with QNX based consoles, which is why Audi was missing from Apple's partner line-up.

With this new announcement, it seems CarPlay has been implemented on Android as well *or Audi has decided to stick with QNX and just adopt Android Auto.


Would just like to add... You would have to be completely daft not to support CarPlay when there are well over 100 million CarPlay capable devices (iPhone 5, 5c, and 5s) in the wild and ZERO Android Auto devices.




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Fingers crossed for news from BMW soon.... otherwise my next car will an Audi again.

BMW Group has been a partner.

Unless you mean you want BMW to support Android Auto, which I don't think was mentioned this week. 1biggrin.gif

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Looks like I can now consider getting an Audi next year after all.  I had crossed them off the list based on there incestuous relationship with Google/Android.  Glad they finally saw the light!  They would have lost a lot of customers, present and future.

 

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Fingers crossed for news from BMW soon.... otherwise my next car will an Audi again.

BMW Group has been a partner.
Unless you mean you want BMW to support Android Auto, which I don't think was mentioned this week. 1biggrin.gif

 

Yes, I knew that. But they have not announced anything specific for 2015 models (I called them just a couple of days ago, and there's still no specific info). I will be in the market for a new vehicle in early 2015. The orders for 2015 start in early Fall 2014, so there's still a possibility.

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I hope this puts to rest both the concerns about having to buy a car that only supports one or the other as well as comments about not buying a car that has Android in it.
Anyone thinking clearly would know this. But the Apple haters that frequent tech site comment sections feigned ignorance so they could employ faux outrage about being locked into one platform. As if these people would be interested in an Apple designed car infotainment system anyway.
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Should probably explain the differences between these things, because they are not the same...

Android Auto is Google's answer to Apple's CarPlay. These are basically protocols that allow connected devices to utilize a car's built-in components as if they were peripherals; display, microphones, speakers, etc...

The Open Automotive Alliance is Google's answer to QNX. These are operating systems that are installed on the car's console and control all the car's features.

At the announcement, Apple's Car Play only worked with QNX based consoles, which is why Audi was missing from Apple's partner line-up.

With this new announcement, it seems CarPlay has been implemented on Android as well.


Would just like to add... You would have to be completely daft not to support CarPlay when there are well over 100 million CarPlay capable devices (iPhone 5, 5c, and 5s) in the wild and ZERO Android Auto devices.

 

This is not correct. While an in-car OS is part of the OAA's high-level concept, their primary mission is integration of Android devices with in-car systems, ala Android Auto and CarPlay. Note that Audi went to great pains in their press release to note that the car's functionality was walled off from the infotainment portion of the in-car systems.

 

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How will Android work inside of the automobile?

 

We're working with our partners to enable better integration between cars and Android devices in order to create a safer, car optimized experience.

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So with Toyota being compatible with CarPlay in 2015, does that also mean Lexus? I certainly hope so.
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Should probably explain the differences between these things, because they are not the same...

Android Auto is Google's answer to Apple's CarPlay. These are basically protocols that allow connected devices to utilize a car's built-in components as if they were peripherals; display, microphones, speakers, etc...

The Open Automotive Alliance is Google's answer to QNX. These are operating systems that are installed on the car's console and control all the car's features.

At the announcement, Apple's Car Play only worked with QNX based consoles, which is why Audi was missing from Apple's partner line-up.

With this new announcement, it seems CarPlay has been implemented on Android as well *or Audi has decided to stick with QNX and just adopt Android Auto.


Would just like to add... You would have to be completely daft not to support CarPlay when there are well over 100 million CarPlay capable devices (iPhone 5, 5c, and 5s) in the wild and ZERO Android Auto devices.




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QNX announced it had integrated support for CarPlay, but I have seen nothing saying QNX is required for CarPlay. Looks like video streaming of the UI (akin to Airplay) and an interface for control input to be sent back to the phone. Looks like you could implement that on any in-dash system.

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Ulrich Hackenberg? Sounds like a made up name.

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Ulrich Hackenberg? Sounds like a made up name.

Wasn't he the crystal meth kingpin from Breaking Bad? lol.gif
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Just hope that all of these manufacturers include carplay, etc. at little to no additional cost.

It doesn't really cost them anything extra in terms of hardware or software to implement/integrate.

If they are going to require a $2K navigation upgrade to enable it, that would suck. Especially because the navigation feature would be pointless with carplay.
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Seems bizarre they wouldn't do it as well since they're so closely tied with Audi.  I'll likely be in the market for a new car in 2016, and if VW hasn't announced anything by then, I'll go with an Audi.  My TDI is mostly Audi parts under the hood anyways.

 
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Lets go Hyundai!!!

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I'm delighted to see Audi specifically announce its alliance with Apple CarPlay. These are the two unassailable BEST tech brands on the market, in their respective categories (i.e., automotive and consumer electronics) IMO. Lack of mention of Audi during the WWDC was disappointing to millions of their owners like me. Bravo Audi!
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Seems bizarre they wouldn't do it as well since they're so closely tied with Audi.  I'll likely be in the market for a new car in 2016, and if VW hasn't announced anything by then, I'll go with an Audi.  My TDI is mostly Audi parts under the hood anyways.

I totally agree. I wonder if they ever did announce it or with the car companies they are announcing I wonder if the auto makers would update to be backwards compatible with say my, 2010 Golf?

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I totally agree. I wonder if they ever did announce it or with the car companies they are announcing I wonder if the auto makers would update to be backwards compatible with say my, 2010 Golf?

 

I'd imagine you'd need an after-market solution to get it in older models.  I got the nav/phone system option with mine, but I highly doubt it'd ever be upgradable to CarPlay.  Would likely need to rip it out and install a whole new unit.

 
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Ulrich Hackenberg? Sounds like a made up name.


Au contraire, mon frére -- his title: Prof. Dr. Ulrich Hackenberg suggests authenticity ...

Ahh, the Germans -- Their business cards are so big because they itemize their degrees on them, e.g. Herr Doktor Doktor Doktor ...
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Anytime now Volkswagen...

I think if Audi is implementing it, others in the VAG will have it as well.
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I think if Audi is implementing it, others in the VAG will have it as well.

They really need to rethink that acronym.
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They really need to rethink that acronym.

 

Well, it does have a certain appeal to the straight single male crowd...

 
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Smart move, and like others have said about bloody time. The customer shouldn't be penalized for switching phones, as most keep there cars 4-7 years longer then phone upgrades. I have an Audi already and was considering getting a new vehicle in 1-2 years. So it's nice to see that in car technology is finally advancing.
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Just hope that all of these manufacturers include carplay, etc. at little to no additional cost.

It doesn't really cost them anything extra in terms of hardware or software to implement/integrate.

If they are going to require a $2K navigation upgrade to enable it, that would suck. Especially because the navigation feature would be pointless with carplay.

Little or no cost .. not going to happen. CarPlay and Android Auto will be optional extras and you'll pay through the nose for it.  Just wait and see.

 

But even if it pisses off the fanatics on AI, I expect ALL auto manufactureres will find solutions to be device independent and also to wall off the onboard control systems from Apple or Android or whatever.  In its home market in Germany, Apple is a minor factor for Audi/VW .. with ca 15% market share apple will never get exclusivity on the german auto market. No auto makers are that dumb. They understand their strategy and customer market/demographics much better than Apple does (perhaps google has an edge in this regard).

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The US and Chinese markets are very important to Audi. Audi knows iPhone owners well fit their demographics. The majority of cell phone loyalty in America's more affluent neighborhoods (e.g. San Francisco and Greenwich, Conn.) accrues to iPhone.
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They really need to rethink that acronym.

Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif
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Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif

That looks like 10 lbs of VAG stuffed into a 5 lb bag. lol.gif
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They really need to rethink that acronym.

VAG? How about Volkwagen AG IN America? lol.giflol.giflol.gif

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Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif

At least it's not VAJAYJAY.

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Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif

Was that on purpose?

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Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif

Was that on purpose?

:smokey:

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A luxury carmaker that won't support Apple devices, or worse, prefer Android to iOS, is just being plain stupid. This is as ill-conceived as Ferrari allowing their logo to be slapped on an Acer laptop.
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A luxury carmaker that won't support Apple devices, or worse, prefer Android to iOS, is just being plain stupid. This is as ill-conceived as Ferrari allowing their logo to be slapped on an Acer laptop.

I don't think anyone has refused support.

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Really?

Can you use VAG in a sentence so that we can understand why?1smoking.gif

"help I'm stuck in a giant VAG, and I can't get out"
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"help I'm stuck in a giant VAG, and I can't get out"
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PS: I'm OK now although my legs are still a little sore.

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PS: I'm OK now although my legs are still a little sore.

That's funny. Did you see when Donald Sterling told Anderson Cooper that he should find himself a nice girl?
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That's funny. Did you see when Donald Sterling told Anderson Cooper that he should find himself a nice girl?

I didn't. I only learned of that clip 2 nights ago on The Daily Show when Jon Stewart used the last few seconds of it for his Moment of Zen segment at the end.


edit: Watching it now. Holy crap! He's saying he's sorry and then makes a negative comment about Magic Johnson when it wasn't even germane to the conversation. Weird!


edit2: Remember that episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation where they came across a race of aliens that needed assistance and ended up kidnapping Geordie. They adopt other people technology by stealing or getting help but aren't very savvy? My point is they remind me of Donald Sterling with their whining.


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