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So, why is Cook making it an issue, and using the Apple Brand Name as his platform.  Tasteless exhibitionism.  

 

It's Apple's platform, and Cook was just one of 5000 Apple employees who took part in it. Stop twisting things around to fit your conclusions.

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Are these four homosexuals for wearing the Apple Pride shirts?

 

I will never understand bringing little kids to these parades, where there's so many lewd and depraved visuals, such as giant dildo flotillas, people wearing nothing but crotch-balls, etc. I ran into a pride parade once and was pretty disgusted at the scenes I saw. I'm fine with the purpose of the parade, but why make it so sexual? I thought that wasnt the point?

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That's Tim Cook meeting with the ruler of Dubai. I'm not gay and I'm not a CEO, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't set foot in any primitive countries that hates me and would murder me.

 

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Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code states, "Whoever commits rape on a female or sodomy with a male shall be punished by death."

 

In 2013, it was announced that all the Gulf Cooperative Countries had agreed to establish some form of, yet unknown, testing in order to ban and deport gay foreigners.[1]

 

I've seen many idiotic posts from you, but this one has to be one of the worst. The extent of your ignorance and childishness is incredible. You honestly believe that Cook ran the risk of being "murdered" in Dubai? Do you realize how absolutely stupid you sound by suggesting that the fact that Cook stepped foot in Dubai is "proof" that he isn't gay?  

 

By the way I've been to Dubai, and actually knew some gay people there. Not one was scared of being murdered, nor would that happen. You clearly dont have a clue about what its like to live in Dubai, but keep spouting your hate-mongering "all arab countries are evil/backwords" bullshit. 


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I doubt that the Apple Brand can now be 'just' a business brand.  Apple & Gay are now one and the same.  Part of Apple's business is now Gayness in all of it's varied iterations.  

 

It's like a new Apple product!  

 

Soon Cook will kill the neutrality of the Jobs brand for all sorts of non-business activities.... like selling specific political candidates, selling their opinion on foreign affairs, selling their position on public education.  

 

These are not topics for business, they are topics for political arena and social discourse.

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Are these four homosexuals for wearing the Apple Pride shirts?

Wasn't there an article about Tim Cook being the most powerful gay executive before Steve Jobs died? I thought this was public knowledge a long time ago. It falls in line with Anderson Cooper being outed as gay it wasn't like everyone didn't already come to that conclusion. 

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Do you realize how absolutely stupid you sound by suggesting that the fact that Cook stepped foot in Dubai is "proof" that he isn't gay?  

 

 

You must be crazy if that's what you concluded from my post. I am in no way suggesting that there is any "proof" that Tim Cook is not gay. I do believe that he's gay.

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Tim Cook, gay leader of Apple, has no right to tread on the brand name "Apple" by using it to promote his sexual preferences.  It is good that homosexuals are coming more into the open, but corporate matters should be separated from sexual orientation.  

 

Jobs had class.  We all knew that he was liberal, and open to sexual freedom, but he ALWAYS showed his CLASS  - unlike the relatively non-creative (so far) heir, Cook who stands on Jobs' accomplishments, and SELLS not innovation, but his gayness as though it is an 'accomplishment' that shareholders should be proud of. 

 

He's gay - wow - how interesting - not.

 

When has Cook in any way even acknowledged he was gay, or brought up the issue in any personal sense? Apple has ALWAYS come out in support of these things, even under Jobs. This is nothing new. Cook has more class in his little finger than you can manage in a lifetime. "Promoting his sexual preferences"? You're so full of shit. Also, Cook is not standing on anyone's accomplishments- he has improved every single aspect of Apple and its products since he's been in charge. Cook seels his "gayness"? The guy has refused ANY interview or question on the subject, so obviously he does NOT want to make it a topic. Tried to be informed next time, instead of spouting an opinion based on your hatred of Cook and pure ignorance. 

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I doubt that the Apple Brand can now be 'just' a business brand.  Apple & Gay are now one and the same.  Part of Apple's business is now Gayness in all of it's varied iterations.  

It's like a new Apple product!  

Soon Cook will kill the neutrality of the Jobs brand for all sorts of non-business activities.... like selling specific political candidates, selling their opinion on foreign affairs, selling their position on public education.  

These are not topics for business, they are topics for political arena and social discourse.
I doubt it. I think the Christmas ad last year is a good example of why not. Apple knows a large number of its customers (especially in the USA) are more conservative so they're never going to do anything that potentially have those people stop buying Apple products. Also Apple (the corporation) doesn't donate to political parties or candidates. I don't see that changing anytime soon.
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Are these four homosexuals for wearing the Apple Pride shirts?


Homosexuals are EVERYWHERE!!!    

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Yes, it's a huge deal when people like you state opinion as fact without any shred of evidence because you can't see past your ignorant, hateful, and narrow-minded view or the world.

Actually, the primary reason for Cook to avoid public mention of his sexuality revolves is not some cowering fear about somebody knowing he's "a gay" but rather centers on the bigoted efforts of some groups to stage disruptive hate campaigns that could potentially affect Apple's product sales.

Cook is not really closeted. He just doesn't want to deal with Islamic states and Tea Party groups trying to block sales of iPads to schools or whatever other nonsense because the company is run by "a gay." 

That reminds me... a certain (unnamed) Kansas Baptist church has been rather quiet since God did what American law couldn't do.
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Soli, you seem to have some real issues in coming to terms that Tim Cook is gay.  I'm not sure if it's coming from a place of homophobia or somewhere else but I suggest you learn to deal with it and move on.  Tim Cook's sexuality is a non-issue.
Not that Soli needs to be defended but to suggest that his post comes from a place of homophobia is ridiculous. Look up previous posts before you pass judgement like that. I'd say that Solipsism is one of the most non-prejudicial posters here.
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You must be crazy if that's what you concluded from my post. I am in no way suggesting that there is any "proof" that Tim Cook is not gay. I do believe that he's gay.

 

No, I'm not crazy if I can't make senseof your posts, which seem to be based only on your hatred and bigotry, and contain very little cohesion. I love how you defined Dubai as "primitive" even though no doubt you haven't stepped foot in the country. Thats your disgusting bigotry and islamophobia talking. It's so cute how you suddenly pretend to care about homosexual rights (when you usually bash everything to do with them) only when you're smearing an arab country. Then suddenly, its just a tool you use to attack them. So hypocritical and transparent. Not once have I see you stand up for gay rights in the US. 


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Apple ][, Your parade is every day of your life where you're not discriminated against for being straight, where you don't have to worry about whether you're able to marry the person you love and where you don't have to deal with the bullshit of people like you not even bothering to wonder if there might be a truth to it all that you're too lazy to figure out.

No parade for you because you're not very awesome.
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I doubt that the Apple Brand can now be 'just' a business brand.  Apple & Gay are now one and the same.  Part of Apple's business is now Gayness in all of it's varied iterations.  

It's like a new Apple product!  

Soon Cook will kill the neutrality of the Jobs brand for all sorts of non-business activities.... like selling specific political candidates, selling their opinion on foreign affairs, selling their position on public education.  

These are not topics for business, they are topics for political arena and social discourse.
I doubt it. I think the Christmas ad last year is a good example of why not. Apple knows a large number of its customers (especially in the USA) are more conservative so they're never going to do anything that potentially have those people stop buying Apple products. Also Apple (the corporation) doesn't donate to political parties or candidates. I don't see that changing anytime soon.

It's smart business to avoid conflict with conservatives of any ilk. The more you can appear inclusive is also a smart posture. While Apple products seem to be purchased by the more affluent in any population, they have also worked diligently to see that Apple, in no way, takes advantage of low income people or people of color. If there were one word that defines Apple in any environment it would be "inclusive."
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But I do find it ironic that if a group of people representing people like me (regular guy, white male, heterosexual) were to hold a special parade to celebrate ourselves, it would probably be reported as being a hate group on the march.:lol: 


While I'm totally okay with a LGBT parade, I do find it hypocritical with other groups to display their pride (and heritage) yet deny other's the same freedom.

It was a few years ago where I read an article about a teenager that was suspended for wanting to organize a "Caucasian" club.  At the same school there were other clubs such as the Black club, Asian club, and a Latino ("La Raza") club, and of course a Gay club.  The girl just wanted a gathering of like-folks that felt left out as she felt they were not represented, yet the other "clubs" demanded the club be shut down due to racial concerns.

Hypocrisy everywhere.

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That's Tim Cook meeting with the ruler of Dubai. I'm not gay and I'm not a CEO, but if I were, I certainly wouldn't set foot in any primitive countries that hates me and would murder me.

 

From Wiki:

Article 354 of the Federal Penal Code states, "Whoever commits rape on a female or sodomy with a male shall be punished by death."

 

In 2013, it was announced that all the Gulf Cooperative Countries had agreed to establish some form of, yet unknown, testing in order to ban and deport gay foreigners.[1]

 

Good Point.

Steve Jobs always wanted Apple to be a force for "Good" in the world and Tim Cook understands this.

It's not about Tim Cook but about Apple an what Apple stands for.

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I doubt that the Apple Brand can now be 'just' a business brand.  Apple & Gay are now one and the same.  Part of Apple's business is now Gayness in all of it's varied iterations.  

It's like a new Apple product!  

Soon Cook will kill the neutrality of the Jobs brand for all sorts of non-business activities.... like selling specific political candidates, selling their opinion on foreign affairs, selling their position on public education.  

These are not topics for business, they are topics for political arena and social discourse.
I couldn't disagree more. It shows that Apple is an inclusive and open minded organization. Any company that goes out of its way to show that discrimination and social inequity is unacceptable within its ranks and in society at large should be applauded. Period.
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While I'm totally okay with a LGBT parade, I do find it hypocritical with other groups to display their pride (and heritage) yet deny other's the same freedom.


It was a few years ago where I read an article about a teenager that was suspended for wanting to organize a "Caucasian" club.  At the same school there were other clubs such as the Black club, Asian club, and a Latino ("La Raza") club, and of course a Gay club.  The girl just wanted a gathering of like-folks that felt left out as she felt they were not represented, yet the other "clubs" demanded the club be shut down due to racial concerns.


Hypocrisy everywhere.

I can how that is hypocrisy on the surface but I have to question the intention of the person. Because America was founded by so many Europeans that were able to maintain their culture and heritage I find it odd to have just a caucasian club. In anthropology Caucasoids envelope a wide range of people from Western India to Northern Africa and throughout Europe.

The term "like folks" strikes me as odd because the only "like" about being labeled caucasian really does come across as racist, but if you are Asian, "black" or gay in the US you probably encounter issues and likely have a smaller support group in most societies. If she was starting an Irish, German, French, or Italian club I would bet that would be fine. Or perhaps in a school where the Caucasians are a minority, as Howard Stern talks about, I would think a group would be allowed.
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Apple ][, Your parade is every day of your life where you're not discriminated against for being straight, where you don't have to worry about whether you're able to marry the person you love and where you don't have to deal with the bullshit of people like you not even bothering to wonder if there might be a truth to it all that you're too lazy to figure out.

No parade for you because you're not very awesome.
Exactly. I guess it must be difficult for some to understand discrimination if they have never been subjected to it. Empathy is not a given trait in all people.
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1) @Slurpy, just report him. He's clearly trolling this thread.

2) Who are these people (or person) that creates accounts that they sit on for years before using? Is it because they think it will give them some credibility?

Lurking for years doesn't necessarily imply conspiracy, you know.

He's clearly very uncomfortable with Apple corporately sponsoring, as he sees it, a particular political viewpoint. Being biased.

If he thought it was a celebration of freedom and liberty, he probably wouldn't have commented at all.

I think Apple probably take the latter view.
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http://business.time.com/2013/12/15/apple-ceo-tim-cook-gives-remarkable-speech-on-gay-rights-racism/

 

For anyone that hasn't seen this speech you need to watch it. Simple common sense tells you Tim Cook is gay without a doubt. You do not spend 14 mins talking about gay rights and discrimination if you haven't felt discriminated against. The level of empathy in his speech says it all. There is a big difference between empathy and sympathy. 

 

Get over it he's gay. If people can't handle or tolerate threads like this then tell AI to stop posting this stupid shit. 

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I can how that is hypocrisy on the surface but I have to question the intention of the person. Because America was founded by so many Europeans that were able to maintain their culture and heritage I find it odd to have just a caucasian club. In anthropology Caucasoids envelope a wide range of people from Western India to Northern Africa and throughout Europe.

The term "like folks" strikes me as odd because the only "like" about being labeled caucasian really does across as racist, but if you are Asian, "black" or gay in the US you probably encounter issues. If she was starting an Irish, German, French, or Italian club I would bet that would be fine. Or perhaps in a school where the Caucasians are a minority, as Howard Stern talks about, I would think a group would be allowed.
Yes, what is the common cultural 'bond' among Caucasians? What is societal injustice experienced by the Caucasian community that would drive the need or desire to form a 'group'? Sulkingly comparing oneself to others is hardly valid.
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While I'm totally okay with a LGBT parade, I do find it hypocritical with other groups to display their pride (and heritage) yet deny other's the same freedom.


It was a few years ago where I read an article about a teenager that was suspended for wanting to organize a "Caucasian" club.  At the same school there were other clubs such as the Black club, Asian club, and a Latino ("La Raza") club, and of course a Gay club.  The girl just wanted a gathering of like-folks that felt left out as she felt they were not represented, yet the other "clubs" demanded the club be shut down due to racial concerns.


Hypocrisy everywhere.

Nope, not hypocrisy, realism. You're trying to make the same point as Apple ][. Where's the parade for the heterosexual, the white guys, the clubs for the Caucasians?

Maybe you haven't noticed that there is a culture of Dominators, and another for the Dominated. The Dominators' parades are automatically seen as displays of superiority. Simple as that. If you don't see this, it's because you're part of the Dominator culture, and lack the empathy to see beyond your "clade." I think that's the word, anyway.

Anyway, this is an important day for Apple's vision of itself and its role in the world. 5000 employees, not all of them LGB or T surely, all showing up to say they can be counted on for making the world a better place. This is one of the key founding values of Apple, directly from Steve Jobs' Whole-Earth-amplified mind.

We're still winning, and the naysayers here are still losing. I'm one of those hetero white guys, by the way, lifelong member.
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Yes, what is the common cultural 'bond' among Caucasians? What is societal injustice experienced by the Caucasian community that would drive the need or desire to form a 'group'? Sulkingly comparing oneself to others is hardly valid.

Why does there have to be a societal injustice to create a common bond? Why does everyone flip their shit when a school wants to put a Christmas tree up at Christmas? Or a cross at the ground zero memorial museum? It's because everyone wants to bitch about things being unfair. 

 

Minorities want special treatment when it comes to getting into college because slavery existed. Special treatment because of race or gender, to the best of my knowledge that is not equal protection under the law. We have terms like 'white privilege" in this country, if you said something like that about the "fill in the blank" community you would be hammered. 

 

People on here talk about equal rights in the US what a freaking joke. 

 

Here you go 81 countries where being gay is against the law.

 

http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/

 

I don't see the US on that list. Those countries aren't exactly Christian either. In IRAN, MAURITANIA, REPUBLIC OF SUDAN, SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN , SOMALIA AND NIGERIA  you will be put to death for being gay. I don't see the US on that list. 

 

For people that want to do good around the world stop bitching about the US and concentrate on the above countries. Let me know how that works out. 

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"It's smart business to avoid conflict with conservatives of any ilk."

 

​Aside from your typical liberal snide tagging of conservatives as prejudiced, but to be balanced in your reporting you must also ack. that it's smart business to avoid conflict with libtards of any ilk as well. 

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Not that Soli needs to be defended but to suggest that his post comes from a place of homophobia is ridiculous. Look up previous posts before you pass judgement like that. I'd say that Solipsism is one of the most non-prejudicial posters here.

Who listens to what Solipsism has to say with all his derailments of irrational thinking?

 
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What I wrote is meant to be taken with a grain of salt, as I'm just trying to be funny sometimes.

But I do find it ironic that if a group of people representing people like me (regular guy, white male, heterosexual) were to hold a special parade to celebrate ourselves, it would probably be reported as being a hate group on the march.lol.gif  

You know, I'm with you on this one. While I'm supporting them in quest to have all rights as heterosexuals, I don't think that parading is the way to go. In my opinion, putting yourself in spotlight by parading is much more attention seeking than working on achieving goals. It is 21st century, there are much better ways to take your stand than disrupting others' daily routines.
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Here you go 81 countries where being gay is against the law.

 

http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/

 

I don't see the US on that list. Those countries aren't exactly Christian either. In IRAN, MAURITANIA, REPUBLIC OF SUDAN, SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN , SOMALIA AND NIGERIA  you will be put to death for being gay. I don't see the US on that list. 

 

 

Now, now, let's not be too harsh on those countries. You wouldn't want to be called one of those "islamophobes", now would you?:lol:

 

It's merely their culture, and who are we to criticize those nice people?:no:

 

I remember reading a news story a few months ago and seeing a photo of a few gay men who were hanged in Iran. Why can't you just understand that's their business, their laws, and besides, the US is equally as bad. In the US, there was this LGBT parade and the participants were given free iTunes cards, that's practically on the same level as being sentenced to death. :wow: Let's focus on the US, and let's attack anybody who dares say a bad word about any other place in the world where gays are actually dangling from ropes.:lol: 


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 Let's focus on the US, and let's attack anybody who dares say a bad word about any other place else in the world where gays are actually dangling from ropes.:lol: 

 

You're not focused at all.  You're taking cheap shots from the cheap seats.  

 

You don't care to invest at all in any sort of empathy -- or even sympathy.  You just want to trash everything.    Take a look at all your posts on here.  You play the contrarian REALLY well.

As for original thoughts?  not so much.

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Why does there have to be a societal injustice to create a common bond?

There doesn't, it's natural behaviour. But what you're talking about is different. It's a gang. This is people that don't know each other standing together in protest against the discrimination of people for something that they did not choose. It's different.

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Why does everyone flip their shit when a school wants to put a Christmas tree up at Christmas?

They incorrectly assume it's a Christian tradition.

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Or a cross at the ground zero memorial museum?

It's about using the deaths of innocents in a dubiously self-serving manner.

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It's because everyone wants to bitch about things being unfair. 

...ahem.

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Minorities want special treatment when it comes to getting into college because slavery existed.

Everyone wants special treatment for their kids. Some kids cannot get into good schools, surely there must be some dispensation for that inequality?

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Special treatment because of race or gender, to the best of my knowledge that is not equal protection under the law.

Please cite evidence of said "special treatment"; seems mythological. Protection? I'd say rights. Unless I wanted to imply something bigoted, of course.

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We have terms like 'white privilege" in this country, if you said something like that about the "fill in the blank" community

...because "whites" are the majority, and hold the most wealth in the country, not to be racist. It is "fill in the blank" in other countries, of course. The other options make no logical sense in America.

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you would be hammered.

Yes you're the victim of being one of very few sane people in the country¡

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People on here talk about equal rights in the US what a freaking joke.

If it wasn't an issue it wouldn't be an issue.

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Here you go 81 countries where being gay is against the law.

http://76crimes.com/76-countries-where-homosexuality-is-illegal/

So either something's a criminal offence or it's a non-issue?

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I don't see the US on that list.

Good comprehension.

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Those countries aren't exactly Christian either.

What exactly are you implying? Whilst some countries support particular faiths in an official capacity, this is mainly political and cannot be relied upon to judge how a country treats it's populace.

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In IRAN, MAURITANIA, REPUBLIC OF SUDAN, SAUDI ARABIA, YEMEN , SOMALIA AND NIGERIA  you will be put to death for being gay.

What made you pick those countries? That's awfully sad, but doesn't really change anything for you in America, does it.

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I don't see the US on that list.

Well spotted. Or not. At least you checked twice.

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For people that want to do good around the world

Damn those do-gooders!

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stop bitching about the US and concentrate on the above countries.

Because the US is perfect just the way it is and well, we couldn't have any more social change could we? What good did that ever do anybody!?

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"Look at the neighbours! He killed his wife, you should accept a smack or two!"

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Let me know how that works out. 

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Can i have a heterosexual free song? I just don't see why apple has to take sides in culture wars... I guess they will spin this as good for shareholders.

If they want to do this sort of activism, they can take the company private by buying out my stock. Then they can do whatever they want with my shares.

In a global marketplace it is irresponsible to take politcal and social sides as a company and not eventually be punished for it.

Why not take a pro-abortion or pro-life stance too while you are at it.

Why don't we take a stance in the jews vs muslims debate.

I just don't see how this is relevant to selling cellphones... Tim Cook can quit as ceo and do whatever he wants to support the LGBT or any other community. Until then, he is discriminating in favor of a specific group using the company name.

I hope he passes out little song cards at a heterosexual pride parade...
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Can i have a heterosexual free song? I just don't see why apple has to take sides in culture wars... I guess they will spin this as good for shareholders.

If they want to do this sort of activism, they can take the company private by buying out my stock. Then they can do whatever they want with my shares.

In a global marketplace it is irresponsible to take politcal and social sides as a company and not eventually be punished for it.

Why not take a pro-abortion or pro-life stance too while you are at it.

Why don't we take a stance in the jews vs muslims debate.

I just don't see how this is relevant to selling cellphones... Tim Cook can quit as ceo and do whatever he wants to support the LGBT or any other community. Until then, he is discriminating in favor of a specific group using the company name.

I hope he passes out little song cards at a heterosexual pride parade...

You can go to gay pride parades and get a card if you really want one. They allow straight people to attend. Be an ally, not a jerk.
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While Tim Cook did attend an early morning breakfast buffet for parade attendees, and posed for many photos, he did not participate in the parade itself.

Apple has a strong policy of inclusiveness in its culture, and its support for this pride parade underscores it. The 5,000 or so Apple employees, family members, and friends were not all gay, by any means. Apple's support by sponsoring the company's participation in the parade, and handing out iTunes cards along the route showed that it valued that inclusiveness value by actually doing something, not just giving it lip service.

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It's hilarious that anyone has an issue with Apple showing up for pride when they are only one of many Silicon Valley companies to attend including Google, Facebook, and Intel.
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Actually, the primary reason for Cook to avoid public mention of his sexuality revolves is not some cowering fear about somebody knowing he's "a gay" but rather centers on the bigoted efforts of some groups to stage disruptive hate campaigns that could potentially affect Apple's product sales.

 

Cook is not really closeted. He just doesn't want to deal with Islamic states and Tea Party groups trying to block sales of iPads to schools or whatever other nonsense because the company is run by "a gay." 

 

 

The vast majority of people that buy Apple products don't know a thing or even care about the inner workings of Apple, Inc.. Apple products speaks for themselves.  How many people really look into the company of the products they buy. Do people that buy Samsung products know or even care that the CEO of Samsung is a big time crook. How many people buying MS products know who the new CEO of MS is or even know that it's no longer Steve Ballmer (or Bill Gates for that matter.). Who's the CEO of Sony now? or Intel? Or HP? Or GE? Or Google? Most don't know or care when they buy (or use) their products. The truth is, not that many people are going to stop buying Apple products because they found out the Apple CEO is Gay. Apple fans won't care. AAPL shareholders won't be dumping their shares because of it. After all, Apple products have been labeled "Gay" by all the haters since Steve Jobs was around and it has not stopped the sales of Apple products by a long shot.

 

BTW - the amount of clout the Tea Party group has (when it comes to blocking sales because of a product being linked as"Gay") pales compare the amount of clout the LGBT community has (when it comes to blocking sales because of a product being linked as "anti -Gay". 

 

No, the reason why Tim Cook doesn't want to be "openly Gay" is because he doesn't want to be distracted by the LGBT community using him as an example of a  high profile Gay person that is the CEO of the most valuable tech company in the World. He doesn't want or even care about that.  He wants to be known as the second best CEO Apple, Inc. ever had, not the one who was Gay. Tim Cook being Gay had nothing to do with where he is now, where Apple Inc. is now or any future plans he has for Apple, Inc.. He is the CEO of Apple, Inc., not the Gay CEO of
Apple, Inc.. In this way, to the LGBT community must feel like Bono, when he "criticized" Apple, Inc. for being "annoying quite" (with regards to Apple, Inc. contribution AIDS charity foundations.).

 

Tim Cook would have march in the parade even if he wasn't Gay because he's that kind of CEO. He was there to show his support for his employees. Many who are Gay. Something that Steve Jobs wouldn't have done. Not because Jobs had anything against being Gay but because he was that kind of CEO. Tim Cook is looking after Apple, Inc. future. Apple, Inc. is headquartered in the SF Bay Area. The vast majority of it's employees live there and many probably grew up there. And if you live there and if you're not Gay, there's a good chance that you know someone that is Gay, you have close friends that are Gay, have a family member or know a friend who has a family member that is Gay and for sure (if you work of a company as large as Apple Inc.) you work with someone that is Gay. Apple, Inc. has over 10,000 employees (at their headquarters) and will be hiring another 5,000 employees when their "Space Ship" is finished. Tim Cook needs to get the message out that Apple, Inc. is a great company to work for. It's no longer the great company to work for, except for the CEO. There's going to be (or there already is) a tech worker shortage in the SF Bay Area. Google, Twitter, Facebook, HP, Intel, AMD and many others are fighting for the same tech workers. Right now, Apple, Inc. can't afford to alienate any group of potential tech employees. Not when, nearby, Google is always voted as the best company to work for. Tim Cook is the kind of CEO that wants to change that. 

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I doubt that the Apple Brand can now be 'just' a business brand.  Apple & Gay are now one and the same.  Part of Apple's business is now Gayness in all of it's varied iterations.  

It's like a new Apple product!  

Soon Cook will kill the neutrality of the Jobs brand for all sorts of non-business activities.... like selling specific political candidates, selling their opinion on foreign affairs, selling their position on public education.  

These are not topics for business, they are topics for political arena and social discourse.
So can we say all Google products are gay because they attended? How about Facebook? How about every computer with an Intel processor?
I just don't get what you're saying.
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It's unlikely that I would ever find myself at any LGBT parade, and I don't live in San Francisco, but where is my free iTunes card handed out to me for being an awesome heterosexual?1bugeye.gif

Where's my parade?

According to the article, it's only a pass for one free song, so it's not a big deal, but has Apple ever handed out any free iTunes cards at other types of parades?

They handed out a bunch at that Christian thing a while back. Called something like "Christmas"? And a whole lot more widespread than a single city's parade it was too
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