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Rumor: Parade of 'iPhone 6' mockups aren't final design, back panel will feature glass like 5s

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While a glut of alleged "iPhone 6" mockups have suggested there will be lines cut out toward the top and bottom of the back panel on Apple's next handset, a new report claims those are just placeholders for small glass panels that will be included, in a design much like the iPhone 5s.



When Apple switched to an aluminum back panel with the iPhone 5, and kept that design for the current flagship iPhone 5s, the company needed to use glass at the top and bottom to serve as "windows" for the device's internal radios. A series of mockups out of the Far East claiming to show the design of Apple's anticipated "iPhone 6" have suggested that the company might simply have straight lines across the back, where those glass windows would be, made of an unknown material.

But a new report on Monday from Japanese newspaper Nikkei, first spotted by G for Games, claims that those lines only mark the places where the glass panels will eventually go in the final product. That would suggest that the back panel will look largely similar to the iPhone 5s.

The report could also explain why most mockups to date have strangely shown round camera flash parts. Apple switched to a pill-shaped dual-color "True Tone" flash starting with the iPhone 5s last year, a feature the company will likely continue to offer with this year's flagship model.'




One change to the design of the "iPhone 6" back panel, however, may be the Apple logo itself. Monday's report claimed that the logo will actually be cut out of the aluminum in Apple's next handset, which would be a change from the engraved logo on previous iPhones.

Finally, in a more questionable claim, the report said that the final design of the "iPhone 6" will sport curved glass. According to the newspaper, this would allow the display to blend more seamlessly into the curved sids of the handset.
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Back to the machine shop, mockup makers!

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Naturally! Adding to the confusion nicely - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfmvkO5x6Ng

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Boo.
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I never did believe those thick antenna bands would be in the final product. I wonder then if the back will look just like the current 5S. Or maybe it will be sapphire? I wouldn't mind seeing something different.
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I hope all these companies, who are making these mock ups so they can design and sell their products when the new iphone comes out, get it complete wrong and have to scrap all their cheap stuff. In reality even if they are wrong they will try and sell it to idiots who do not know any better.

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I really hope for a new look this year, the current design has not really changed since the iPhone 4.

And before people say that there is not much that Apple can do as the device has to have a screen etc taking up all the space I'd point out that if you compare the iPhone 4 to a 3GS no one could claim they were the same device.
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This is starting to sound a little more like it. I'm betting on Apple using sapphire. 

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Competing rumors and mock-ups. A pox on all of them!

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I never did believe those thick antenna bands would be in the final product. I wonder then if the back will look just like the current 5S. Or maybe it will be sapphire? I wouldn't mind seeing something different.

I think with the rounded edges of the 6, that sapphire would be well suited for the upper and lower antenna windows.
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Although I like the 5 and 5s industrial design, something different would be nice. My hope would be that the top and bottom back panels would be Liquidmetal, not glass, allowing for radio frequency transparency while retaining an all-metal back. Glass is a nice touch, but never quite seemed to be the ideal choice for the rear of the iPhone chassis.

 

However, ff these mockups are accurate with the exception that the final product will include glass back panels, the inserted back glass may have some curvature to fit with the curved sides of the chassis. That might improve the "hand feel" for those who prefer a rounder more form fitting chassis. 

 

 

 

 

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Not sure I understand: if it's supposed to have a "glass back panel" how will it look similar to the 5S, which as an aluminum back panel? More like 4/4S?
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Man, I hope this report is true. I really hate those line breaks on the back of current mockups!

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Whew!  Thank god.

Thing looked like a prop from "Tron".

 

(Now, if only they will retain the useful flat edge, I'll be truly happy)

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The iPhone 6 is going to have an edge to edge Sapphire glass screen. I'm sure Apple has tested it and confirmed that it will not scratch/break more easily than a metal side.

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Hmm. But there are a couple of legit looking photos of a back with the Apple logo cutout and pretty convincing machined innards and intricate clips and attachments with the antenna bands..

Maybe they heard what us whiners on Apple rumor sites were saying and said wth, "lets get rid of the bands so these people can move on with their lives." It was pretty traumatizing to some of us..
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Honestly, until I see it in person, Jony Ive's team has the benefit of the doubt for me regarding any hardware design.

 

Even though I will admit that the mockups didn't look good to me, I can't think of a single hardware design misfire from modern Apple. I even like and own (and its still in use!) the iPod Fatty (Nano 3rd gen) that a lot of people like to point to as an Apple design mistake.

 

Really, people, wait to see the final product (in person!) before you get upset over anything leaked. Life is too short to go haywire over rumors and mockups!

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This next iPhone will look great in black.
Some people like myself where surprised with the overall shape of the iPhone 4 and 5. I liked them, but they were more masculine than the iPhone that came before. This rounded shape looks great and fits in the evolution of iPhones.

Beveled glass and a rounded form factor will make it extremely successful. And with iOS 8 and the apps that take advantage of it, this will be incredible.

In retrospect, the most boring evolutions to iOS were iOS 4 to 5. iOS 7 and iOS 8 are much more interesting imo.
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But a new report on Monday from Japanese newspaper Nikkei, first spotted by G for Games, claims that those lines only mark the places where the glass panels will eventually go in the final product. That would suggest that the back panel will look largely similar to the iPhone 5s.

The report could also explain why most mockups to date have strangely shown round camera flash parts. Apple switched to a pill-shaped dual-color "True Tone" flash starting with the iPhone 5s last year, a feature the company will likely continue to offer with this year's flagship model.'

 

(Above sentence bolded by me.)

 

AppleInsider seems strangely fixated on the mockups having round vs. pill shaped holes for the flash. Its mentioned in every single leak/mockup story...even going so far as calling the veracity of some leaks into question because of the round holes....as if Apple couldn't re-engineer the "True Tone" flash into a differently shaped enclosure.

 

Anyway, as I read the new report, the parts that will be replaced are the plastic looking bands, not the metal top parts with the camera/flash cutouts. So this report says nothing about the flash holes, or am I missing something?

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I'm thinking these "mockups" were new iPods then?
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Not sure about curved glass. So far it failed...Apple wouldn't play that gimmick game.
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Originally Posted by alcstarheel View Post
I'm thinking these "mockups" were new iPods then?

 

I’m thinking they’re just wrong.

 

Still gunning for a 4.7” iPhone and 5.5” iPod touch combo, myself.

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Whew!  Thank god.

Thing looked like a prop from "Tron".

 

(Now, if only they will retain the useful flat edge, I'll be truly happy)

 

I think the flat edge becomes more of an issue as the device becomes thinner.  It will be harder to pick up off a flat surface, like a glass table top.  Try this with a 5 or 5S: Clean a glass tabletop so there's no dust or debris on it, then place an iPhone 5 or 5S on the table.  Now pick it up.  You'll note the suction effect as the smooth back of the phone adheres to the smooth glass.  The flat sides of the phone are harder to grip in this situation than rounded edges would be because the rounded edges allow your finger to wrap into the indent between the geometric apex of the curved edge and the surface the phone is sitting upon.  This gives you a better grip when you pull the phone away from the surface.  This is also why women's bodies are curved (my theory).

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(Above sentence bolded by me.)

 

AppleInsider seems strangely fixated on the mockups having round vs. pill shaped holes for the flash. Its mentioned in every single leak/mockup story...even going so far as calling the veracity of some leaks into question because of the round holes....as if Apple couldn't re-engineer the "True Tone" flash into a differently shaped enclosure.

 

Anyway, as I read the new report, the parts that will be replaced are the plastic looking bands, not the metal top parts with the camera/flash cutouts. So this report says nothing about the flash holes, or am I missing something?

 

Absolutely, I bet they've either made a micro mirror to bounce light from 2 leds out of a single point or possibly even an led which can adjust its own white balance. 

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my guess would be they go to something more like the look of the iPod Touch rear "windows".  More like Pill-shaped windows than what the 5s and 5 looked like...but one on the top and bottom for the different antennas.

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Still no rumors if they will keep the 4" design.

I'm guessing they will keep the 5s and 5c designs as previous models at a slightly lower price-point, but i'd love to see the iPhone go all-new with 3 sizes:

small~3.5"

Medium~4.7"

Large~5.5"

Personally, i found the 4" design too much of a compromise for single-handed use.  3.5" was the best (imo).  Of course everyone has different hand sizes and opinions...this is mine.  I could never comfortably reach the top-row icons in springboard or in apps where you have to tap the upper portion of the screen.  I always have to re-adjust my grip.

I doubt they will do this but here's hoping.

 

Still odd no rumors as to the future of the 4" screen.

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This report is ridiculous and wishful thinking aimed to please those who "can't get over the thick antenna breaks". It's hard to get page views when you're repeating what everyone else is saying, so why not invent something different.

 

We've seen extremely detailed CAD renderings of the iPhone 6 which matches the recent back shell leaks (I'm not talking about the mock-ups, but the back shell recently featured in a video). I doubt these CAD renderings were fake as they are extremely precise and complex. 

 

In the CAD rendering, the metal inlays inside the antenna bands are not separate pieces, they are part of the main back shell. Those could not be replaced with glass inlays without weakening the structure and would probably require a major redesign of what we've seen.

 

The iPhone leaks come from the supply chain, they are way past the prototype design stage. There may be some changes until the final version, but nothing major.

 

Also, the glass back parts are now for many the symbol of "Apple's planned obsolescence" as a lot of people think Apple puts them to make the iPhone easier to break (they don't know about radio frequencies transparency), I think Apple wants to get rid of them and the stigma associated with it.

 

The design that we've seen looks like it will be very durable. I suspect it will be the most durable iPhone since the original (which has similar curved sides) and will be much harder to bend than the 5/5S as an arch/half-pipe shape is the strongest geometry shape.

 

The following patent may (or may not) describe the antenna/insulation arrangement of the iPhone 6 : http://www.google.com/patents/US20140071651

The antenna breaks would be injected molded plastic that would insulate the very top and bottom from the main case, as well as part of the inside.

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I really hope for a new look this year, the current design has not really changed since the iPhone 4.
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We've seen extremely detailed CAD renderings of the iPhone 6 which matches the recent back shell leaks (I'm not talking about the mock-ups, but the back shell recently featured in a video). I doubt these CAD renderings were fake as they are extremely precise and complex. 

The problem I have with your reasoning is that precision and complexity does not necessarily prove accuracy or truth. Verisimilitude does not prove truth.

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And for a phone that slim with a glass front and back, the metal frame will be made of the liquid metal alloy, not aluminium.
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Good...if true? Better than those awful 'rubber bands' on the mockups.
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I would really love to see the Apple logo on the back light up like the MacBooks.
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The problem I have with your reasoning is that precision and complexity does not necessarily prove accuracy or truth. Verisimilitude does not prove truth.
Exactly.
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This report is ridiculous and wishful thinking aimed to please those who "can't get over the thick antenna breaks". It's hard to get page views when you're repeating what everyone else is saying, so why not invent something different.

We've seen extremely detailed CAD renderings of the iPhone 6 which matches the recent back shell leaks (I'm not talking about the mock-ups, but the back shell recently featured in a video). I doubt these CAD renderings were fake as they are extremely precise and complex. 

In the CAD rendering, the metal inlays inside the antenna bands are not separate pieces, they are part of the main back shell. Those could not be replaced with glass inlays without weakening the structure and would probably require a major redesign of what we've seen.

The iPhone leaks come from the supply chain, they are way past the prototype design stage. There may be some changes until the final version, but nothing major.

Also, the glass back parts are now for many the symbol of "Apple's planned obsolescence" as a lot of people think Apple puts them to make the iPhone easier to break (they don't know about radio frequencies transparency), I think Apple wants to get rid of them and the stigma associated with it.

The design that we've seen looks like it will be very durable. I suspect it will be the most durable iPhone since the original (which has similar curved sides) and will be much harder to bend than the 5/5S as an arch/half-pipe shape is the strongest geometry shape.

The following patent may (or may not) describe the antenna/insulation arrangement of the iPhone 6 : http://www.google.com/patents/US20140071651


The antenna breaks would be injected molded plastic that would insulate the very top and bottom from the main case, as well as part of the inside.
I've said it on other forums and will say it here as well: if the final design sold to consumers includes those thick white and black antenna bands I will sell my Apple stock. But I'm very confident that will not be the case so I'm not worried.
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Originally Posted by GeorgeiP5 View Post
I would really love to see the Apple logo on the back light up like the MacBooks.


That's a dedicated light, which means worse battery and no point.

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I’m thinking they’re just wrong.

Still gunning for a 4.7” iPhone and 5.5” iPod touch combo, myself.
Ditto but I want a new 4" model as well.
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Still no rumors if they will keep the 4" design.
I'm guessing they will keep the 5s and 5c designs as previous models at a slightly lower price-point, but i'd love to see the iPhone go all-new with 3 sizes:
small~3.5"
Medium~4.7"
Large~5.5"
Personally, i found the 4" design too much of a compromise for single-handed use.  3.5" was the best (imo).  Of course everyone has different hand sizes and opinions...this is mine.  I could never comfortably reach the top-row icons in springboard or in apps where you have to tap the upper portion of the screen.  I always have to re-adjust my grip.
I doubt they will do this but here's hoping.

Still odd no rumors as to the future of the 4" screen.

I would like to see:

3.5" - small
4.0" - medium
4.7" - large

I still think 5.5" is too big. But they could offer it as an iPhone Maxi or something.
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Ditto but I want a new 4" model as well.
I would like to see:

3.5" - small
4.0" - medium
4.7" - large

I still think 5.5" is too big. But they could offer it as an iPhone Maxi or something.

agreed, but there is a case to be made for the 5.5" screen.  Perhaps not that big a demand in the US or other "western" markets, but in the "East" where the phone is most people's ONLY computing device, bigger the better.  Not to mention people who want the biggest screen on a phone possible due to vision and/or accessibility issues.

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This report is ridiculous and wishful thinking aimed to please those who "can't get over the thick antenna breaks". It's hard to get page views when you're repeating what everyone else is saying, so why not invent something different.

 

I agree. I actually really like the new design. A good argument could be made that the design with the bands is more refined as it acknowledges and emphasizes the seams. It is a more truthful and intuitive design, qualities that are typically thought of as favorable to designers. You can even see this in Apple's more recent stores, where the brackets holding the glass panels together are larger and shinier than they need to be:

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I've said it on other forums and will say it here as well: if the final design sold to consumers includes those thick white and black antenna bands I will sell my Apple stock. But I'm very confident that will not be the case so I'm not worried.

 

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I've said it on other forums and will say it here as well: if the final design sold to consumers includes those thick white and black antenna bands I will sell my Apple stock. But I'm very confident that will not be the case so I'm not worried.

 

Well good thing for you since surely the iPhone 6 will be a flop because of these lines which are 1mm too thick. /s

 

I'm curious, where do you think those thick lines rumors come from? Fakers said "let's make thick antenna separators, it will be more Apple like!"? Or maybe Apple decided to make the lines thicker as a fashion statement (because there couldn't be a technical reason for their thickness!) and are backing off because of the "outrage"?

 

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The problem I have with your reasoning is that precision and complexity does not necessarily prove accuracy or truth. Verisimilitude does not prove truth.

 

I never stated it was a proof. We're on a rumor oriented site discussing mainly unproven facts. Everything can be faked of course, but some things are less likely to be faked, such as intricate industrial design. A video is also much less likely to be faked than a photo, though it can be done.

 

What's more likely to be faked, all the CAD renderings and a matching video of a "real" back shell that show the exact same antenna arrangement? Or an article based on hearsay in a Japanese newspaper?

 

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I never stated it was a proof. We're on a rumor oriented site discussing mainly unproven facts. Everything can be faked of course, but some things are less likely to be faked, such as intricate industrial design. A video is also much less likely to be faked than a photo, though it can be done.

 

What's more likely to be faked, all the CAD renderings and a matching video of a "real" back shell that show the exact same antenna arrangement? Or an article based on hearsay in a Japanese newspaper?

 

 

"Unproven facts."

Uh-huh. Right.

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