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Joining last week's announcement that Audi will support the upcoming CarPlay platform, eight more car makers have been listed on Apple's website as "committed partners."




Audi was officially added to Apple's CarPlay site on Tuesday, along with the following eight new automakers:

  • Abarth
  • Alfa Romeo
  • Chrysler
  • Dodge
  • Fiat
  • Jeep
  • Mazda
  • Ram


Those companies join the likes of Toyota, Ford, BMW, Chevrolet, Nissan and more, who have pledged to support CarPlay in upcoming vehicles. Many have not given dates for when those vehicles will arrive, but Audi said last week that CarPlay support will be included in some of its 2015 models.

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Many of the companies listed are also members of Google's Android-based Open Automotive Alliance, and some have indicated they plan to support both Android Auto and Apple CarPlay together in future vehicle "infotainment" systems.

A total of five car makers have pledged to bring CarPlay support to vehicles in their 2014 lineup. Those companies are: Ferrari, Honda, Hyundai, Mercedes-Benz and Volvo.




Aftermarket solutions for older cars from Alpine and Pioneer are also forthcoming.

A week ago, Apple updated the CarPlay website to list the MLB.com At Bat app as a supporting third-party launch partner. It joins Apple's Podcasts app along with Betas Music, iHeartRadio, Spotify and Stitcher.

CarPlay will also come with built-in compatibility for Apple's native iPhone, Music, Maps and Messages applications. A new "Now Playing" application is also exclusive to CarPlay as part of the default installation.

When CarPlay products launch later this year, they will support the iPhone 5s, iPhone 5c, and iPhone 5. Connection to a head unit is required through a Lightning cable.
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It doesn't necessarily mean all that much that they've signed on in principle. The question is, when will it actually become available in their models? For instance, Audi announced last week that it will be available in their 2015 models; but BMW has made no such commitment as of yet.

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Does anyone know if these are all QNX-based systems?

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I wish they would start announcing models and not just automakers I'm curious to know if it's the full line up or just certain models will get it
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Doesn't it seem redundant to list Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, & Ram? They're all a part of the same manufacturer - right?
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Doesn't it seem redundant to list Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, & Ram? They're all a part of the same manufacturer - right?


And add to that Fiat, Alfa Romero, Abarth and all the other smaller divisions of Fiat such as Lancia of Italy and so on. As Chrysler parts bins are now supplying bits and pieces to the newer Maseratis (brake pedals, infotainment units, window switches) this will only become another item in the bin. Add-ons from your dealer (e.g.: software applications to tune your engine, call SOS, online cell services) will cost an arm and a leg as dealers and their networks will not change how they do business because a couple high end tech companies want to see change. Yet maybe as one make starts inserting CarPlay quickly into their cars, it may force the competition to push forward is sales slump. It's a funny business the auto industry...it is so slow to change and would prefer to use 1920's sales techniques that gives the dealership/and or car network 100% of the control. We all know that CarPlay or its equivalent from Google is going to be a high end option like GPS Navigation even though every phone we now carry includes it for free. I see it being packaged as a leather seating/heated seats/extra chrome options only forcing you to buy into all this unneeded stuff to get the one thing you really want.

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Does anyone know if these are all QNX-based systems?

I don't know about the rest of the auto manufacturers, but the new Ford Sync will be a QNX based system. 

 

EDIT: The system in GM vehicles is QNX. 

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Also, Audi...but not VW? VW owns Audi! Get with the program, VW.

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Also, Audi...but not VW? VW owns Audi! Get with the program, VW.

Seriously, what's up with that?!

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Doesn't it seem redundant to list Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, & Ram? They're all a part of the same manufacturer - right?

 

 

they are shopped as separate brands.  To tell me Honda is supporting it doesn't tell me Acura is.  I'm a potential Acura buyer.  Not so much a Honda buyer.

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<*Yawn!*> What's that? Another article about who is and isn't officially supporting CarPlay today? That's nice. I should probably read it. I'm sure it's a very well-crafted article. I just can't seem to make myself give a shit about who may or may not ever actually do anything with a system about which we know almost nothing. Maybe it's because, so far, no one has really described what CarPlay will do, how I will benefit, or why I would want it. Maybe it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe it's no big deal. It's really hard to know, and therefore care, without actually seeing a real product in action.

 

I'm gonna go have a nap. Someone please wake me if and when someone actually releases a CarPlay product. Thanks!

 

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It doesn't necessarily mean all that much that they've signed on in principle. The question is, when will it actually become available in their models? For instance, Audi announced last week that it will be available in their 2015 models; but BMW has made no such commitment as of yet.
 

I like my BMW. Even if it had CarPlay I would probably prefer the built-in software using iDrive instead of having to reach out and touch the screen. 

 

I don't like being distracted while driving so the other things that iOS would bring to the screen are generally things I do not want anyway, especially not Siri. I get so frustrated trying to use Siri, I would likely be pounding my fist on the dash. That has got to be the most aggravating piece of software ever invented. When something only works about 50% of the time, you are better off doing without it altogether in my opinion.

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I like my BMW. Even if it had CarPlay I would probably prefer the built-in software using iDrive instead of having to reach out and touch the screen. 

 

I don't like being distracted while driving so the other things that iOS would bring to the screen are generally things I do not want anyway, especially not Siri. I get so frustrated trying to use Siri, I would likely be pounding my fist on the dash. That has got to be the most aggravating piece of software ever invented. When something only works about 50% of the time, you are better off doing without it altogether in my opinion.

I like my BMW too, but for the way it drives. IMHO, BMW's iDrive is crap. Talk about worse than distracting. It has the worst music interface and the worst voice command system of any car that I've owned (and, between my family members and me, I've owned a fair number of good ones from very good car manufacturers).

 

Moreover, there's nothing about Carplay implementation that is premised only on Siri, or more importantly, on touch. Indeed, one of the companies that demo-ed it (I forget which one) showed a physical knob controlled version. The importance of Carplay for me is seamless integration with my maps/nav, emails/texts, music, and less about Siri.

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I'm gonna go have a nap. Someone please wake me if and when someone actually releases a CarPlay product. Thanks!

 

(Does that come across as cynical?)

No, it comes across as impatient.

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Does anyone know if these are all QNX-based systems?

 

I know the uconnect system Chrysler uses for all its brands are QNX based. Its an awesome system that everyone loves. Extremely intuitive, responsive, and fairly compatible. I have the 8.4 w/Nav in my Dart. Its very nice. Its not perfect, but its far, far from any Microsoft based system such as what Ford uses. 

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I don't know about the rest of the auto manufacturers, but the new Ford Sync will be a QNX based system. 

 

EDIT: The system in GM vehicles is QNX. 

 

I hope so, because the Microsoft based system sucks very badly. Its a shame so many people fell for their marketing. 

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Doesn't it seem redundant to list Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep, & Ram? They're all a part of the same manufacturer - right?

 

They're all part of FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles), formally known as Chrysler Group & Fiat SpA. That being said, they might not all use the same exact system. Fiat doesn't use the same entertainment system as Jeep for example. Chrysler, Dodge, and Jeep all use the QNX based uconnect based system, however some are using version 2 while other models are still shipping with version 1 of the 8.4" system. There are even some still shipping with the old old 6.5" uconnect system, but those are rapidly being phased out. They're all different manufacturers in the end with not quite the same exact systems. 

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I can't wait.... I have a Ford with MS Sync. It sucks rocks! It's not intuitive, It's clumsy and down right dangerous!
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<*Yawn!*> What's that? Another article about who is and isn't officially supporting CarPlay today? That's nice. I should probably read it. I'm sure it's a very well-crafted article. I just can't seem to make myself give a shit about who may or may not ever actually do anything with a system about which we know almost nothing. Maybe it's because, so far, no one has really described what CarPlay will do, how I will benefit, or why I would want it. Maybe it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe it's no big deal. It's really hard to know, and therefore care, without actually seeing a real product in action.

 

I'm gonna go have a nap. Someone please wake me if and when someone actually releases a CarPlay product. Thanks!

 

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Honestly? You come across like a sarcastic a-hole. If you hadn't noticed, this is an Apple rumor website. Those of us who care to speculate and relish in possible Apple future-tech come here to get their fill. It's obvious that you shouldn't be counted as one of us. Hope you wake a little less cranky.

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RAM is Dodge. Talk about redundant.
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RAM is Dodge. Talk about redundant.

 

They're really product lines, so pointing out that each line will have CarPlay is not redundant.

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<*Yawn!*> What's that? Another article about who is and isn't officially supporting CarPlay today? That's nice. I should probably read it. I'm sure it's a very well-crafted article. I just can't seem to make myself give a shit about who may or may not ever actually do anything with a system about which we know almost nothing. Maybe it's because, so far, no one has really described what CarPlay will do, how I will benefit, or why I would want it. Maybe it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe it's no big deal. It's really hard to know, and therefore care, without actually seeing a real product in action.

 

I'm gonna go have a nap. Someone please wake me if and when someone actually releases a CarPlay product. Thanks!

 

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your post comes off as completely clueless...not sure if youre living under a rock, but the features and value of CP are well documented. Pioneer's head units are implementing it now via firmware.

 

also, if you were as uninterested as you pretend to be, you wouldnt click the link, read the story, and write a comment. dur durrr

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Volkswagen. Get w the program. "...otherwise the three- pointed star will win 'ma heart". (Sung to some country tune or another)
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Volkswagen. Get w the program. "...otherwise the three- pointed star will win 'ma heart". (Sung to some country tune or another)

Mitsubishi or a VW?  What a choice.  One is a car company with no cars and the other is cars without any customers.  (And that's from a long time VW owner).  Subaru all the way...

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RAM is Dodge. Talk about redundant.

 

RAM is not Dodge. RAM is a separate brand in itself for its truck lineup. There used to be Dodge RAM's, but once Fiat took over Chrysler, RAM became its own brand as did Dodge, Chrysler, SRT, etc. The idea was to have RAM for trucks and Dodge for cars. There's RAM truck (1500,2500, and 3500), RAM Promaster (big cargo van like what FedEx uses), and RAM C/V (basically a Caravan without windows or seats in the rear)

 

RAM has its own logo (the old Dodge logo), and Dodge has its own new logo with the double red / / . They're 2 totally different brands under the FCA (Fiat Chrysler Automobiles) umbrella. 

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Honestly? You come across like a sarcastic a-hole. If you hadn't noticed, this is an Apple rumor website. Those of us who care to speculate and relish in possible Apple future-tech come here to get their fill. It's obvious that you shouldn't be counted as one of us. Hope you wake a little less cranky.

 

Too subtle I guess. Not cranky, just cheeky.

 

My point was that we haven't the slightest idea what CarPlay does. The news so far is essentially that it exists and that some car makers promise to use it. That's it. We've seen only the most cursory description of what it IS.

 

It would be nice to know a little bit about what car makers can actually DO with it. If a CarPlay equipped car came out tomorrow I wouldn't even be able to evaluate how well it exploits the system since we don't even know what the system is capable of or what it's intended to do.

 

How will a CarPlay-equipped vehicle compare to one with a traditional entertainment system? How about to one that uses Microsoft Sync? What functions will it provide? How will they differ from (or resemble) existing products? How will users interact with it? What the heck IS it beyond some vague description of an amorphous platform for some obscure purpose?

 

Since Apple won't tell us, all we can really do is wait for an actual product and see if it's compelling or not. Reading about nothing more than who's on board is boring.

 

Sorry if the humorous intent failed.


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your post comes off as completely clueless...

 

Yeah, there's a good reason for that... People use a little too much emphasis when they tell me I'm "special." :)

 

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not sure if youre living under a rock, but the features and value of CP are well documented.

 

Not so much on AI, though, yes? All I've seen here is "Apple creates system for cars" and "These manufacturers might use it." If there has been a description of what it does and how it works, and I missed it, I apologize.

 

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Pioneer's head units are implementing it now via firmware.

 

Pioneer? They make plasma TV's, right?

 

I'm kidding.

 

I'm not a car audio enthusiast though so I don't follow what happens in that market. I'm just a Mac and iPhone user who reads only one forum that is specifically geared towards those products. Well, except for the user group I read for work, but there's not much about CarPlay on the Pro Tools forum!

 
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also, if you were as uninterested as you pretend to be, you wouldnt click the link, read the story, and write a comment. dur durrr

 

I didn't read it, and said so, remember? I clicked the link for the express purpose of voicing my disappointment about the lack of information about the actual product. Besides, isn't it kind of early in our relationship for you to be insulting me? Aren't you supposed to buy me dinner first or something?

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I like my BMW. Even if it had CarPlay I would probably prefer the built-in software using iDrive instead of having to reach out and touch the screen. 

 

I don't like being distracted while driving so the other things that iOS would bring to the screen are generally things I do not want anyway, especially not Siri. I get so frustrated trying to use Siri, I would likely be pounding my fist on the dash. That has got to be the most aggravating piece of software ever invented. When something only works about 50% of the time, you are better off doing without it altogether in my opinion.


Unfortunately the BMW iDrive was one of the starters of this touch screen car control panels.

Since a BMW with no spare tire doesn't meet my needs, avoiding iDrive was no problem. Too bad as otherwise BMW has some nice cars, but a real spare is needed for long distance highway driving, particularly in the winter.

 

Now that all are following the iDrive, plus adding more on screen playthings, finding a car with REAL CONTROLS is going to be a big problem. I can see an after market for effective car controls, used by safe thinking concentrating drivers!

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I'm beginning to think my grasp of this product category may be hindered by my lack of familiarity with current automotive infotainment technology. The last time I installed a stereo there was no such thing as controls on the steering wheel or cell phone integration. Head units were, for the most part, standardized for size and mounting, and systems with system-specific outboard OEM amplifiers and weird-impedance speakers were a rare exception.

 

Now that those things are the norm, does it mean that any aftermarket system must involve a complete end-to-end replacement? Can I replace just the head unit in my wife's Jeep, or do I have to also replace the OEM multi-channel amp and 2-ohm speakers? Will an aftermarket head unit support the controls in the steering wheel? Do I have to install my own microphone for hands-free operation or will an aftermarket device work with whatever is already in the vehicle?

 

I'm sure I can get answers to most of this at my local specialty shop, I've just never cared enough to look into it (partly because the factory-installed systems are now so much better than they were in my day), but if CarPlay turns out to be compelling I'd be interested in knowing whether it can be implemented without having to replace the entire vehicle.

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It doesn't necessarily mean all that much that they've signed on in principle. The question is, when will it actually become available in their models? For instance, Audi announced last week that it will be available in their 2015 models; but BMW has made no such commitment as of yet.

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In an email from BMW Customer Services to me yesterday, they wrote "With reference to Apple Car Play, I can confirm that the only up to date information we have received, is that this feature will become compatible with our vehicles in the near future.  However, I regret that I am unable to provide you with a definite date."  This sounds like a holding reply made to look like something might happen but who knows when?

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Volkswagen is a complete mystery. 

 

My stab in the dark is that, before CarPlay, they went all out on a new Beetle called the iBeetle, which was their 'Apple' car. That was supposed to materialise this year, but hasn't. The reason? CarPlay came along, and they were so pissed at Apple because of having to start again that they decided to snub them. 

 

Probably ridiculous, but unless we get VW telling us here or a rumour or news slips out, wild speculation it is.

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OMG! My baby   and CarPlay! :p 

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they are shopped as separate brands.  To tell me Honda is supporting it doesn't tell me Acura is.  I'm a potential Acura buyer.  Not so much a Honda buyer.


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Too subtle I guess. Not cranky, just cheeky.

My point was that we haven't the slightest idea what CarPlay does. The news so far is essentially that it exists and that some car makers promise to use it. That's it. We've seen only the most cursory decryption of what it IS.

It would be nice to know a little bit about what car makers can actually DO with it. If a CarPlay equipped car came out tomorrow I wouldn't even be able to evaluate how well it exploits the system since we don't even know what the system is capable of or what it's intended to do.

How will a CarPlay-equipped vehicle compare to one with a traditional entertainment system? How about to one that uses Microsoft Sync? What functions will it provide? How will they differ from (or resemble) existing products? How will users interact with it? What the heck IS it beyond some vague description of an amorphous platform for some obscure purpose?

Since Apple won't tell us, all we can really do is wait for an actual product and see if it's compelling or not. Reading about nothing more than who's on board is boring.

Sorry if the humorous intent failed.

Try looking at the 2015 Hyundai Sonata Carplay Demo video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBzhZ7g94i8 (from http://www.slashgear.com/2015-hyundai-sonata-first-drive-carplay-android-auto-onboard-30335834/).
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It doesn't necessarily mean all that much that they've signed on in principle. The question is, when will it actually become available in their models? For instance, Audi announced last week that it will be available in their 2015 models; but BMW has made no such commitment as of yet.

 
I like my BMW. Even if it had CarPlay I would probably prefer the built-in software using iDrive instead of having to reach out and touch the screen. 

I don't like being distracted while driving so the other things that iOS would bring to the screen are generally things I do not want anyway, especially not Siri. I get so frustrated trying to use Siri, I would likely be pounding my fist on the dash. That has got to be the most aggravating piece of software ever invented. When something only works about 50% of the time, you are better off doing without it altogether in my opinion.

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Siri for music searches on your music library works quite well and I look forward to using it in the.

I use siri for maps directions all the time and it seems to work quite well most of the time. Also a very helpful feature i would like to use in the car. My in-car navigation is annoying as hell.
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OMG! My baby   and CarPlay! :p 

Although saving money and fuel is a nobel cause, that little vehicle would be squashed like the bug of its namesake if colliding with an SUV or truck. I know that I am not being all that environmentally responsible but give me a solid heavy duty automobile any day of the week over that minuscule death trap.

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Try looking at the 2015 Hyundai Sonata Carplay Demo video at www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBzhZ7g94i8 (from http://www.slashgear.com/2015-hyundai-sonata-first-drive-carplay-android-auto-onboard-30335834/).

 

Thanks 1,000,000 for that! That's really helpful. I now know what CarPlay does -- it simply recreates the iPhone interface on the car's dashboard to make it easier to see and access. Not quite the vehicle operation renaissance some were wildly imagining but definitely handy. I want!

 

I'm still left wondering why this site hasn't provided that kind of informative overview though. It seems like the kind of thing an Apple-specific news site should have been all over. Oh well, moving on.

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Thanks 1,000,000 for that! That's really helpful. I now know what CarPlay does -- it simply recreates the iPhone interface on the car's dashboard to make it easier to see and access. Not quite the vehicle operation renaissance some were wildly imagining but definitely handy. I want!

I'm still left wondering why this site hasn't provided that kind of informative overview though. It seems like the kind of thing an Apple-specific news site should have been all over. Oh well, moving on.

1) It doesn't recreate the iPhone interface, it's a completely new UI built into iOS for iPhone that's designed for the in-dash display, it's controls, mic(s), and speaker(s). That may seem like splitting hairs but it's a key difference over, say, simply installing an iPad mini in your car.

2) I seem to recall AI having extensive articles on CarPlay when it first premiered earlier this year at a car show.

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Mitsubishi or a VW?  What a choice.  One is a car company with no cars and the other is cars without any customers.  (And that's from a long time VW owner).  Subaru all the way...

Geez.... I meant Mecedes. As in "Loooord, woun't you buy me a Mercedes Benz"
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