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Another questionable rumor out of China on Thursday claims Apple will announce its next-gen iPhone on Sept. 15 ahead of a Sept. 25 launch date, while mention is made of a 16GB 5.5-inch version that will supposedly be called "iPhone Air."

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According to Chinese language website China.com, industry sources are telling various media outlets in the region that Apple is planning to start sales of its next iPhone on Sept. 25, with China expected to be in the first group of countries to get the device.

The report, spotted by GforGames is highly suspect, as Apple historically starts sales of new iPhone models on Fridays, and Sept. 25 is a Thursday. Last year, Apple performed a simultaneous launch with the iPhone 5s and iPhone 5c on Friday, Sept. 20.

Perhaps more believable, though by no means verifiable, is a rumor from May saying that Apple plans to launch the device or devices on Sept. 19, a date echoed in a follow-up report last week.

Insiders also said a 5.5-inch "phablet" version of the next-gen "iPhone 6" will be called "iPhone Air," though such a move would likely confuse the "Air" naming convention. As it stands, the MacBook Air represents the Apple's smallest and lightest laptops, while the "Air" moniker is assigned to the company's largest iPad.

As for pricing, Thursday's report is exactly in line with prior claims that the 4.7-inch iPhone 6 will cost 5,288 yuan (about $850) when it hits store shelves. While last week's rumor failed to mention a 16GB variant of an anticipated 5.5-inch iPhone, today's report cites insiders as saying the device does exist and expects it to run 5,998 yuan (about $965).

Finally, sources claim Apple's partner carriers in the region, China Mobile and China Unicom, are already testing prototype iPhone 6 units on their respective 4G networks.

When the next-gen iPhone lineup does launch sometime this fall, many expect the handset to feature a complete redesign relocated sleep/wake button, slimmed-down profile and advanced innards like an "A8" processor. Some analysts believe Apple plans to differentiate the purported 5.5-inch version from its smaller siblings by adding on features like optical image stabilization and higher storage capacities.
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Again, all the rumors so far are combined with a new launch day on 9/25/14 instead of 9/19/14.
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I really hate the idea that a 5.5 would become flagship with features not include in a 4.7. Mainly because I don't want a 5.5
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I really hate the idea that a 5.5 would become flagship with features not include in a 4.7. Mainly because I don't want a 5.5

Well, I think most people will buy the 4.7 an it will be the flagship phone.

The 5.5 is a phablet and as such it is different.

 

Note that the current iPhone 5s is only 4.0 inches so 4.7 is large and 5.5 is huge.

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These rumors are getting sillier all the time. Who announces new products on a Monday? Nobody. And the 4.7" will start at 32GB but the 5.5" at 16GB? That makes no sense at all.
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I really hate the idea that a 5.5 would become flagship with features not include in a 4.7. Mainly because I don't want a 5.5
Apple would be stupid to do that. They have to know the 4.7" will be the biggest seller. I'm still not convinced these phablets are that popular (outside of China). Also the recent front panel leaks have only shown 4.7" so I'm still not convinced a 5.5" model will actually go into production.
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I'm still not convinced these phablets are that popular (outside of China).

 

They seem to be pretty popular here in Vancouver, at least among female Asian transit users. Strangely, it seems the smaller the woman, the larger the phone! All the ladies I've seen carrying them are tiny.

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They seem to be pretty popular here in Vancouver, at least among female Asian transit users. Strangely, it seems the smaller the woman, the larger the phone! All the ladies I've seen carrying them are tiny.

I'm thinking it's not the size of the woman --it's the size of her purse. The women I know are always losing things, including phones, in their purse. I think the 5.5" iPhone is appealing because it will be easier to find. 

 

On a related note -- I want a phone that can fit in my jeans pocket. But women almost never have pockets, so that's not an issue for them. They carry things in their purse. It all comes back to that darned purse. I'll bet 3/4 of those 5.5" iPhones go to women... 

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The Air suffix has always denoted the lightest in a range. So IMHO, unless the larger iPhone is the lightest it would seem a possible misnomer if used. Of course it could well be the lightest if the standard formats are simply current models continued and some new construction allows the larger one to be thinner and lighter. Apple did this with the iPad after all. Well not larger, bit certainly thinner.
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I think it makes a lot of sense to move away from numbered naming of iPhones to having a portfolio of iPhones with consistent names. 

 

If they want to be consistent-ish with other product lines would call the 5.5" the iPhone Pro, the 4.7" the iPhone Air, and the 4" the iPhone Mini. 

 

They could also add a 12" iPad and have that be the iPad Pro. Then they really would have consistent naming between those two product lines. 

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I agree that the 5.5 having features that the 4.7 doesn't, would be a little sad.

Anyone find 850 to be a bit much? Currently an iPhone with ATT costs 650, I can see 750 but 850? Even I as an Apple fan have to wonder if the phone is worth that much. It would certainly hurt sales if people have to pay 400 after subsidy, big screen or not. Unless the carriers are suppose to pay a bigger portion.
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the front facing camera is a good way to use the iPhone as a mirror to check their makeup, so bigger the screen the better
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Why would the larger version be the Air? Wouldn't it make more sense to have the 4.7" iPhone Air and the 5.5" iPhone Pro, mirroring the screen size / power increase found in Apple's other 'Pro' devices?

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I'm thinking it's not the size of the woman --it's the size of her purse. The women I know are always losing things, including phones, in their purse. I think the 5.5" iPhone is appealing because it will be easier to find. 

 

 

So are you one of those that also says blonde women are air heads? How about relating the size of a mans hands or foot size to the size of his pecker?

 

Did you ever consider that maybe the size of their purse is a function of the phone size the carry?

 

If this was supposed to have been a sarcastic joke then my bad otherwise shame on you. BTW: my wife has a quite small bag but is constantly misplacing her keys and iPhone (mostly in her purse) LOL.

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I agree that the 5.5 having features that the 4.7 doesn't, would be a little sad.

I disagree - I think it'd be a shame if it didn't have superior hardware. A 5.5" screen gives them a lot more case space to play with, and it would be a real disappointment if Apple didn't take advantage of that space to include (for example) better camera components that physically wouldn't fit in a smaller device.

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These rumors are getting sillier all the time. Who announces new products on a Monday? Nobody. And the 4.7" will start at 32GB but the 5.5" at 16GB? That makes no sense at all.

I feel like I'm missing something here - why is one day of the week better than another for making product announcements?

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I think it makes a lot of sense to move away from numbered naming of iPhones to having a portfolio of iPhones with consistent names....

 

...They could also add a 12" iPad and have that be the iPad Pro. Then they really would have consistent naming between those two product lines. 

 

I agree about the numbering in the name although I don't think they need to get too carried away with it. Keep it simple but clear where it fits in the order of things (although I don't see Apple ever going down the road of even a dozen iPhone models 3 or 4 with different memory configs -- they did that with Macs and it was one of the things Steve Jobs killed when he got back).

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I'm thinking it's not the size of the woman --it's the size of her purse. The women I know are always losing things, including phones, in their purse. I think the 5.5" iPhone is appealing because it will be easier to find. 

 

On a related note -- I want a phone that can fit in my jeans pocket. But women almost never have pockets, so that's not an issue for them. They carry things in their purse. It all comes back to that darned purse. I'll bet 3/4 of those 5.5" iPhones go to women... 


Yes. Many phablet users I see are women, since they just chuck it in a bag.

 

Sadly, most of them don't understand the purpose of a tablet, so they think by having some massive phone they're covered on both fronts.

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So are you one of those that also says blonde women are air heads? How about relating the size of a mans hands or foot size to the size of his pecker?

 

Did you ever consider that maybe the size of their purse is a function of the phone size the carry?

 

If this was supposed to have been a sarcastic joke then my bad otherwise shame on you. BTW: my wife has a quite small bag but is constantly misplacing her keys and iPhone (mostly in her purse) LOL.

 

dude -- lighten up. No, I was not being sarcastic. But what I was saying is not equivalent to the other things you mention. Everything I said is a fact:
 

1. Far more women carry purses than men. That's a fact.

2. Men's pants are far more likely to have a front pocket. That's a fact.

3. Women tend to have difficulty finding things in their purse. That's also a fact. And it's not because they are women. I have a hard time finding things in my backpack, which is why I often put important things like keys and phones in my pants pockets. But women can't do that -- not their fault, it's just the way women's clothing are made. 

 

There is nothing in my post that was sexist. You imputed that using your imagination. Shame on you. 

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I want my portable electronics to be LESS portable. This makes sense to me.

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post #21 of 63
None of these rumors ever mention an updated 4" iPhone. What if you like the current size, but want the updated silicon, camera, etc.
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I disagree - I think it'd be a shame if it didn't have superior hardware. A 5.5" screen gives them a lot more case space to play with, and it would be a real disappointment if Apple didn't take advantage of that space to include (for example) better camera components that physically wouldn't fit in a smaller device.

Back in the day, the premium Japanese electronics (Walkmans for example), had the smallest and lightest components; bulk and weight were relegated to the cheaper products. Automatically equating bulk = better is something Detroit marketers cooked up. Sounds like some of you never got past that.

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I can definitely see Apple having a few differentiating features between the two sized phones.

 

Apple sometimes seems to make it a hard to choice to pick between various models of a product. People will have to weigh the cons and the pros of each one.

 

Maybe somebody was all set on getting the smaller model, but then they notice that the larger iPhone has a killer battery time. What to do, what to do.

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mention is made of a 16GB 5.5-inch version that will supposedly be called "iPhone Air."

How about iPhone Hot Air. There's no way Apple's making a 5.5" phablet.

Articles like the following suggest it's a big market:

http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-business/phablet-sales-surge-what-will-apple-do/d/d-id/1252800

but they include 5" flagship Android devices, which aren't considered phablets. Whatever size Apple goes with for the iPhone 6, this will compete with the flagship Android devices.

As the article points out, Samsung is the phablet leader and their phablet sales are still 1/10th of their product line. Some might say that means Apple could grow their userbase by 1/10th but they also fragment the screen size and have to have a whole set of support and separate repair components just for that small portion of the lineup. It's not worth it.

They just need to pick one size for the iPhone 6 that works well for most people.
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Yes. Many phablet users I see are women, since they just chuck it in a bag.

Sadly, most of them don't understand the purpose of a tablet, so they think by having some massive phone they're covered on both fronts.

Please explain the purpose of a tablet in regards to functional difference from a phablet.
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Please explain the purpose of a tablet in regards to functional difference from a phablet.

 

Phablets are just big phones.

 

It seems to me that some people who I see using crappy Android phablets are trying to kill two birds with one stone, but they are not succeeding. I think that many phablet users can't afford a tablet, so they figure that their big phone will be an ok compromise, but it's not of course.

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What would people think if one of these ended up being the new iPod Touch?
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Just because you Don't like the 5.5" iPhone doesn't mean that everyone doesn't, Myself I can't wait to get the 5.5" iPhone. I have a 5.5 Android now and I like the size. That is why I left Apple was the screen was to small,now I can come back to Apple and have my Big screen! Thank You Apple for listening to us and building a Bigger iPhone. I love the Apple ecosystem,I have a iMac,iPad 4 and a iPhone 5. So I'm excited and can't wait for the 5.5 iPhone Air to be released. Apple Rock's! All I need now is a new iPad! LOL!
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I want my portable electronics to be LESS portable. This makes sense to me.

iPads are considered portable but neither of ours leave the house very often.

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I'm thinking it's not the size of the woman --it's the size of her purse. 

Well, I know one woman in particular who doesn't want a phone any larger than her current iPhone even though all of her purses are on the large side, however her hands are small. When I told her that the next iPhone was going to be bigger, she just said, "I don't want a bigger phone."

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...Strangely, it seems the smaller the woman, the larger the phone! All the ladies I've seen carrying them are tiny.

 

Oddly, that is similar to a crazy thing I have observed here in Arizona.  The smaller the woman, the larger the truck she is driving.  Again, not a sexist remark (since I am not saying she is an idiot or anything like that), just an observation.

 

Interesting analysis aside, I have to think that if Apple makes a larger (4.7") and huge (5.5") phone, I would think that they are going to add things to the larger one that makes use of the additional space.  The better question is this, if they do make a phablet (damn, I hate that word something fierce), would they try to combine the functionality of the iPhone (i.e. calling people) and the iPad (on a much smaller screen); paving the way to an actual phablet device (instead of an overly large phone)?

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What would people think if one of these ended up being the new iPod Touch?

...or an iPad "nano"?

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How about iPhone Hot Air. There's no way Apple's making a 5.5" phablet.

Articles like the following suggest it's a big market:

http://www.informationweek.com/mobile/mobile-business/phablet-sales-surge-what-will-apple-do/d/d-id/1252800

but they include 5" flagship Android devices, which aren't considered phablets. Whatever size Apple goes with for the iPhone 6, this will compete with the flagship Android devices.

As the article points out, Samsung is the phablet leader and their phablet sales are still 1/10th of their product line. Some might say that means Apple could grow their userbase by 1/10th but they also fragment the screen size and have to have a whole set of support and separate repair components just for that small portion of the lineup. It's not worth it.

They just need to pick one size for the iPhone 6 that works well for most people.

 

Two phone sizes would be OK. A 4" and a 4.7". Let the 5.5" be a giant iPod or a tiny iPad.

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It seems quite clear to me that the 5.5" iPhone is a rumour put out by Samsung.

They know that the only thing they have left is larger screens which Apple is about to do as well with a 4.7" iPhone.

 

Samsung start the 5.5" rumour so when Apple doesn't release a 5.5" iPhone, all the naysayers can start spouting that Apple is doomed and if you want a really big screen, you have to buy a Samsung phone.

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With respect to more features on a the bigger version. Having a larger phone makes it easier to stuff more features. it also adds to the value of having said bigger phone which will have negative user experience based with respect to size.
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... I want a phone that can fit in my jeans pocket.... 

 

I have to wonder if a phone of that size is at all practical for a front jeans pocket. First sitting down with it in your pocket would require more similar to a pouch -- kangaroo pants. I have to imagine it wouldn't be too comfortable in the sitting position especially for guys. The stress it would put on the iPhone body (frame and either sapphire or metal surfaces) would seem to make it much more prone to screen breakage. I just don't see this working unless you don't mind taking it out of your pocket every time you sit down.

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iPads are considered portable but neither of ours leave the house very often.

The Osbourne suitcase-sized PC was considered portable too. My point is that MORE portability is still something that people value in portable devices.

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I WANT THE BIG ONE! YEAH!
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Apple would be stupid to do that. They have to know the 4.7" will be the biggest seller. I'm still not convinced these phablets are that popular (outside of China). Also the recent front panel leaks have only shown 4.7" so I'm still not convinced a 5.5" model will actually go into production.

When the survey result shows 59% on 4.7" and 41% on 5.5" for iPhone 6, I would say 5.5" will be popular in the US as well. Most women will get 5.5" because they have purse and text more than talk on the phone.

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Well, I know one woman in particular who doesn't want a phone any larger than her current iPhone even though all of her purses are on the large side, however her hands are small. When I told her that the next iPhone was going to be bigger, she just said, "I don't want a bigger phone."

Yup...ONE woman....no more comment.

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