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Apple most likely will come out with a 64 bit 4.7" and 5.5" phone, while retaining the same technology in the smaller 4" iPhone 5S, and make the iPhone 5C the mid range phone, the iPhone 4S the lower end phone, and phase out the iPhone 4.

You're all over the place, that's for sure.

 

Newflash- this isn't 2013.  The iPhone 4 is already phased out, and the 4S is already the lower end phone


Edited by Andysol - 7/3/14 at 11:29am

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Tim Cook is very efficient when it comes to logistics in the supply chain, which he was managing when Steve Jobs was still alive. Tim Cook doesn't just introduce a new processor for its own sake, and will not introduce an A8 processor when he just introduced the A7 processor.

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Apple just refreshed its product line with the Touch ID and the A7 chip in the iPhone 5S, and the A7 chip in the iPad mini Retina and the iPad Air Retina. Apple will refresh the 64 bit A7 chip iPad line with Touch ID (since only the A7 chip can handle Touch ID).

Apple upgrade cycles:

 

3GS- June 19, 2009

A4- June 24, 2010

A5- Oct 14, 2011

A6- Sept 21, 2012

A7- Sept 20, 2013

 

Why are you acting like they don't upgrade to a "new more efficient" chip every single year?  And no- they didn't just release the A7.  It's not like the A7 has only been out 2 months- it's been out over 9 months- and will be a year old (like every other processor)- when it gets updated.

 

Of all the insane claims on this forum- you are the only one who doesn't think Apple will introduce the A8.  Let that resonate.

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A recent RBC Capital Markets survey of 705 would-be iPhone buyers showed 64% wanting the next iPhone model even if it's bigger, but only 26% were interested in one with a 5.5" display.

 

Sorry for the convoluted way I stated this, but that's the result of the flawed and leading way RBC presented the question to survey participants.

 

 

 

http://qz.com/225557/most-people-want-a-bigger-iphone-some-are-even-willing-to-pay-extra-for-it/

 

Customers don't know what they want until they see it and experience it firsthand (slightly modified Steve Jobs axiom).

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post #84 of 139
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It's just so large...I really hope we get a 4" iPhone 6.

Why? iPhone 5s is more than capable to deliver any need. Unless people want a big screen, there's no need to upgrade from iPhone 5s if 4" screen is what they want.

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I am a 34yr old guy who (like the guys i hang around with) do NOT want a bigger phone. One of my friends still has his 4s because he hates a big phone. Due to some of my job requirements that can be (slightly) physical at times, i keep a slim case on my phone at work. I have a lot of friends who are plumbers, contractors, electricians etc that have to use lifeproof or otterbox cases while they are working. Add the bulk of that to a larger phone and you now have a brick like the old days. If theres a "phablet" market for those with purses, murses & huge pockets then build/offer one for them. But dont kill a pocketable phone. The samsung flip i traded in for my 1st iphone took up less pocket space than my 5s does. Keep the PHONE in iPHONE.
RANT OVER.

To make story short: you don't want any thing big? Stay with iPhone 5s. It should serve your needs for at least 2-3 more years. Apple will eventually replace 4" model since 4.7" one is not that bigger than current iPhone 5/5s.

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post #86 of 139
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I for one, am only interested in the 4.7" as I dedicate a Pants front pocket to the phone. I have absolutely no interest in the 5.5" phone. If I want to use a larger screen I grab my iPad.

Have you seen how silly it looks to hold a Phablet to your ear???

No one forces you to use 5.5". If the rumor is true, Apple release 5.5" version not to make people to switch to it, but to give people more selections: big hands vs small hands, people text more than talk and LeBron James...BTW, stop whining, we all want more options.

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A recent RBC Capital Markets survey of 705 would-be iPhone buyers showed 64% wanting the next iPhone model even if it's bigger, but only 26% were interested in one with a 5.5" display.

 

Sorry for the convoluted way I stated this, but that's the result of the flawed and leading way RBC presented the question to survey participants.

 

 

 

http://qz.com/225557/most-people-want-a-bigger-iphone-some-are-even-willing-to-pay-extra-for-it/

Let me make your statement short:

"A recent RBC Capital Markets survey of 705 would-be iPhone buyers showed 64% wanting the next iPhone model even if it's bigger"

That means people who want iPhone 6 5.5" is 40% and 60% want iPhone 6 4.7". Others stay with iPhone 4" are not applicable because they don't intend to go for iPhone 6.

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post #88 of 139
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Customers don't know what they want until they see it and experience it firsthand (slightly modified Steve Jobs axiom).

 

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I think... The line up will be (prices are with 2yr contract / and without)...

 

iPhone 6: 4.7" (A8, 32GB) $299 / $750

iPhone 6: 4" (A8, 32GB) $199 / $650

iPhone 6c: 4.7" (A7, 16GB) $199 / $650

iPhone 6c: 4" (A7, 16GB) $99 / $550

iPhone 5c: 4" (A6, 8GB) $0 / $350

 

Yes, I'm going to will the 5.5" iPhone out of existence, even though it doesn't really exist yet. ;-)

This should be disaster. Who the hell wants to pay a premium for 4" iPhone 6 while iPhone 5s is more than enough to do the daily tasks as good? If there is another survey on iPhone 6 screens, people who want 4" screen will probably be less than 20% of the population or less than 10% of all iPhone 4" and above combined. 

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Fantastic!  I'm tired of the sharp-edged iPhone glass and the plastic strip around it.  Ive must have been looking for a solution to the sharp edge issue since the iPhone 4.


And I'd be quite happy if the chamfering disappears too.  It serves an important function on iPad, but no so much on iPhone.  Try this experiment with any chamfered-edge iPad:

1. Hold your chamfered-edge iPad over something soft, because you're going to drop it.
2. Now hold it one-handed, as though you were using it normally with thumb on front bezel.
3. See how close to the edge you can move your thumb without dropping the iPad.
4. Turn the iPad over, so its backshell is facing up.
5. Again, hold it one-handed, thumb on top.
6. See how close to the edge you can move your thumb without dropping the iPad.

And now you see one of the benefits of the chamfered edge.  It creates two sharp edges for increased friction with your thumb.  You can hold the iPad one-handed with your thumb quite close to the edge when it's face-up.  But when it's face-down and the rounded edge is on top, your one-handed grip is much less secure with your thumb near the edge.

Which of course means nothing for iPhone.  The chamfered edge increases one-handed grip security on iPad, but does precious little for iPhone and iPod touch other than to maintain a family resemblance between iPhone and iPad lines.  So yes, I think it's time for a rounded-edge glass front panel and iPad-like rounded-edge backshell for iPhone.  But I'm not so sure iPad will get the rounded-edge glass panel.  We'll see.

Two things: the plastic "gasket" between glass and metal should also be seen as a shock absorber, seems to me.

Second, I can see them burying the rounded edge of the glass under the edge of the metal case. In other words, no glass would protrude above the metal; it would be flush, as with the iPad.
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I see the specs and prices as follows (All with contract pricing):

 

  • iPhone 6 Pro (5.5"): A8 Processor - 32GB/64GB/128GB - $299/$399/$499
  • iPhone 6 (4.7"): A8 Processor - 16GB/32GB/64GB - $199/$299/$399
  • iPhone 5S: A7 Processor - 16GB - $99
  • iPhone 5C: A7 Processor - 16GB - $0

 

 

They may even drop the 5s completely to make a plastic 6c with the same specs.

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Apple upgrade cycles:

 

3GS- June 19, 2009

A4- June 24, 2010

A5- Oct 14, 2011

A6- Sept 21, 2012

A7- Sept 20, 2013

 

Why are you acting like they don't upgrade to a "new more efficient" chip every single year?  And no- they didn't just release the A7.  It's not like the A7 has only been out 2 months- it's been out over 9 months- and will be a year old (like every other processor)- when it gets updated.

 

Of all the insane claims on this forum- you are the only one who doesn't think Apple will introduce the A8.  Let that resonate.

 

You are really dense aren't you.

 

I never said that they don't upgrade their chips, I said that they introduce a new chip when they upgrade their product line. 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_system_on_a_chip

List of Apple SoCs[edit]

Name Model no. Image Semiconductor technology Die size CPU ISA CPU CPU cache GPU Memory technology Introduced Utilizing devices
  APL0098 S5L8900.jpg 90 nm[4] 72 mm2[2] ARMv6 412 MHz single-coreARM11 L1: 16 KB Instruction + 16 KB Data PowerVR MBX Lite @ 103 MHz 16-bit Single-channel 133 MHz LPDDR-266 (532 MB/sec)[64] June 2007
  APL0278 S5L8720.jpg 65 nm[2] 36 mm2[2] ARMv6 412–533 MHz single-coreARM11 L1: 16 KB Instruction + 16 KB Data PowerVR MBX Lite @ 103–133 MHz 32-bit Single-channel 133 MHzLPDDR[citation needed] September 2008
  APL0298 S5L8920.jpg 65 nm[4] 71.8 mm2[13] ARMv7 600 MHz single-coreCortex-A8 L1: 32 KB Instruction + 32 KB Data, L2: 256 KB PowerVR SGX535 @ 150 MHz (1.2 GFLOPS) 32-bit Single-channel 200 MHz LPDDR(1.6 GB/sec) June 2009
APL2298 S5L8922.jpg 45 nm[2] 41.6 mm2[2] ARMv7 600–800 MHz single-coreCortex-A8 L1: 32 KB Instruction + 32 KB Data, L2: 256 KB PowerVR SGX535 @ 150–200 MHz (1.2–1.6 GFLOPS) 32-bit Single-channel 200 MHz LPDDR(1.6 GB/sec) September 2009
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A4 APL0398 Apple A4 Chip.jpg 45 nm[2][13] 53.3 mm2[2][13] ARMv7 0.8–1.0 GHz single-coreCortex-A8 L1: 32 KB Instruction + 32 KB Data, L2: 512 KB PowerVR SGX535 @ 200–250 MHz (1.6–2 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 200 MHz LPDDR(3.2 GB/sec) March 2010
A5 APL0498 Apple A5 Chip.jpg 45 nm[32] 122.2 mm2[32] ARMv7 0.8–1.0 GHz dual-coreCortex-A9 L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2011
APL2498 Apple-A5-APL2498.jpg 32 nmHKMG[33] 69.6 mm2[33] ARMv7 0.8–1.0 GHz dual-coreCortex-A9(one core disabled in Apple TV) L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2012
APL7498 Apple-A5-APL7498.jpg 32 nm HKMG[39] 37.8 mm2[39] ARMv7 Single-coreCortex-A9 L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2013
  • AppleTV 3 (AppleTV3,2)
A5X APL5498 Apple A5X Chip.jpg 45 nm[41] 165 mm2[41] ARMv7 1.0 GHz dual-coreCortex-A9 L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP4 (quad-core) @ 250 MHz (32 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Quad-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800[66] (12.8 GB/sec) March 2012
A6 APL0598 Apple A6 Chip.jpg 32 nm HKMG[51][67] 96.71 mm2[51][67] ARMv7s 1.3 GHz[68]dual-core Swift[48] L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB[69] PowerVR SGX543MP3 (tri-core) @ 266 MHz (25.5 GFLOPS)[50] 32-bit Dual-channel 533 MHz LPDDR2-1066[70] (8.528 GB/sec) September 2012
A6X APL5598 Apple A6X chip.jpg 32 nm HKMG[54] 123 mm2[54] ARMv7s 1.4 GHz dual-core Swift[53] L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX554MP4 (quad-core) @ 266 MHz (68.1 GFLOPS)[53][71] 32-bit Quad-channel 533 MHz LPDDR2-1066 (17 GB/sec)[72] October 2012
A7 APL0698 Apple A7 chip.jpg 28 nmHKMG[63] 102 mm2[58] ARMv8-A[59] 1.3[56] GHz dual-core Cyclone[59] L1: 64 KB instruction + 64 KB data, L2: 1 MB, L3: 4 MB[59] PowerVR G6430 @ 450 MHz (115.2 GFLOPS)[61][71] 64-bit Single-channel LPDDR3-1333[59] September 2013
APL5698 Apple A7 S5L9865 chip.jpg 28 nm HKMG[73] 102 mm2[73][58] ARMv8-A[59] 1.4[57] GHz dual-core Cyclone[59] L1: 64 KB instruction + 64 KB data, L2: 1 MB, L3: 4 MB[57] PowerVR G6430 @ 450 MHz (115.2 GFLOPS)[71] 64-bit Single-channel LPDDR3-1333[59] October 2013

 

 

Apple just upgraded their product line in 2013. Any upgrades to their product line will be either incremental to their existing products, or the introduction of new products that compliment existing chip hardware - such as the 64 bit A7 chip and Touch ID (in the iPhone 5S) that is used to power a 4.7" and 5.5" iPhone - and the 64 bit iPad Air/iPad mini Retina, that will be upgraded with Touch ID.

 

When Apple introduces the 64 bit iPads with Touch ID, Apple will remove the non-Touch ID 64 bit iPads from the Apple store.

 

Apple is not going to just introduce an A8 chip unless it is a major advancement designed to make their existing product more powerful, that will differentiate it enough to be a new product; or Apple is going to introduce a new product that will require an A8 chip that is different from its existing product line.


Edited by InteliusQ - 7/3/14 at 1:19pm
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this is the lineup i'd like to see someday in the near future:

3.5" screen (like the iphone 4) -> iphone nano
4.0" screen (like the iphone 5) -> iphone air
4.7" screen (like the iphone thats coming, super thin) -> iphone
5.5" screen -> iphone pro

I think thats the best way to call them, and they keep the names unchanged in future models just like they do in the laptop line . Its confusing (and just plain ugly) to have the iphone models named 4S, 5S all while the samsung models are named S4, S5 ect.. yuk!

the iphone nano & air could have a little less features and previous generation CPU and be more price competitive. The iphone nano could come in different colors as well. Thats my glimpse of the future!
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You are really dense aren't you.

 

I never said that they don't upgrade their chips, I said that they introduce a new chip when they upgrade their product line. 

 

Apple just upgraded their product line in 2013. Any upgrades to their product line will be either incremental to their existing products, or the introduction of new products that compliment existing chip hardware - such as the 64 bit A7 chip and Touch ID (in the iPhone 5S) that is used to power a 4.7" and 5.5" iPhone - and the 64 bit iPad Air/iPad mini Retina, that will be upgraded with Touch ID.

 

When Apple introduces the 64 bit iPads with Touch ID, Apple will remove the non-Touch ID 64 bit iPads from the Apple store.

 

Apple is not going to just introduce an A8 chip unless it is a major advancement designed to make their existing product more powerful, that will differentiate it enough to be a new product; or Apple is going to introduce a new product that will require an A8 chip that is different from its existing product line.

Wow.... just.... wow.

I'd love to hear what a "Product line" is and how it differs from their annual upgrade cycle.  So you think they are going to upgrade the iPhone and iPads this year but they will be "incremental" with the A7?  I'm dense?

 

They have never upgraded their existing product line that compliments existing chip hardware.  Ever.  The closest they got was the iPad 3 which used a completely different GPU.   I'm dense?

 

You realize in your little chart you posted that it shows- in black and white- That every single time the iPhone has been updated, that it has gotten a new chip. But I'm dense? :lol: 


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They may even drop the 5s completely to make a plastic 6c with the same specs.

 

Quite possible.  I wouldn't be surprised if only the current-year models get Touch ID.  That means one or two "6" models in 2014.

But I doubt there will be a "6C" this year.  The "C" means "older internals in a new plastic case."  Indicating a "6C" next year.

I think Apple just might keep the 5C in the lineup, so we'd have 4.0-inch 5C, 4.7-inch "6", and 5.5-inch "Air."

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Quite possible.  I wouldn't be surprised if only the current-year models get Touch ID.  That means one or two "6" models in 2014.

But I doubt there will be a "6C" this year.  The "C" means "older internals in a new plastic case."  And that means "6C" comes next year.

I think Apple just might keep the 5C in the lineup, so we'd have 4.0-inch 5C, 4.7-inch "6", and 5.5-inch "Air."

I agree completely.

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this is the lineup i'd like to see someday in the near future:

3.5" screen (like the iphone 4) -> iphone nano
4.0" screen (like the iphone 5) -> iphone air
4.7" screen (like the iphone thats coming, super thin) -> iphone
5.5" screen -> iphone pro

I think thats the best way to call them, and they keep the names unchanged in future models just like they do in the laptop line . Its confusing (and just plain ugly) to have the iphone models named 4S, 5S all while the samsung models are named S4, S5 ect.. yuk!

the iphone nano & air could have a little less features and previous generation CPU and be more price competitive. The iphone nano could come in different colors as well. Thats my glimpse of the future!

I was going to say this. Time to have real models rather than last years model( if slightly repackaged), the year before's model, and this years model.

Probably though they won't have the 3.5. Which is a pity.
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Chart full of specs. :no:

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What a ridiculous post.

The 'bean counters' at Apple have done reasonably well with iPhones over the years without your advice or condescension.
Oh do you have sales figures for the 8GB 5C? We'll find out in September if the 8GB hangs around or not.
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The reason it makes more sense for 2015 versus now is because this year Apple is already giving consumers a larger, thinner, faster, more efficient phone for the same price as the outgoing model.

Consumers will see the value of getting more for their money already with the 6 over the 5S, hence why there is no need to also double the storage.

Next year there will be less features added between the 6 to the 6S so if Apple were to double the storage sizes for the iPhone, next year makes more sense.

Conversely I said this year makes more sense to double storage sizes on the iPads since they will likely retain the same form factor. That way Apple can release an A8 iPad Air with Touch ID and 32GB for $499. That will be a must have Christmas gift even for those that bought 16GB iPad Airs last year.
I can understand this line of reasoning. Though flagship Android devices have gotten bigger without getting more expensive. If Apple introduced a larger screen phone plus doubled the storage without raising prices Samsung and other Android OEMs would really shit their pants. That's what I want to see. 1biggrin.gif
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Why a 32GB iPhone costs $100 more
http://www.imore.com/segmenting-based-storage-or-why-32gb-costs-100
I read this a few days ago, but it doesn't really explain why it's $100 and not $50 or why the base is 16GB and not 32GB. The only explanation really is because Apple can, because people are willing to pay for it. I do think though if Apple went 32/64/128 at current prices or if they charged $50 for upgrades and not $100 they would seriously put some hurt on Android OEMs. Also Apple introduced a larger screen iPhone with a more complicated manufacturing process plus Touch ID a year later and didn't increase the price. So unless the BOM is significantly higher because of sapphire or liquid metal or whatever I see no reason why a 4.7" phone has to be more expensive or storage can't be cheaper (because the phone is getting bigger).
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Wow.... just.... wow.

I'd love to hear what a "Product line" is and how it differs from their annual upgrade cycle.  So you think they are going to upgrade the iPhone and iPads this year but they will be "incremental" with the A7?  I'm dense?

 

They have never upgraded their existing product line that compliments existing chip hardware.  Ever.  The closest they got was the iPad 3 which used a completely different GPU.   I'm dense?

 

You realize in your little chart you posted that it shows- in black and white- That every single time the iPhone has been updated, that it has gotten a new chip. But I'm dense? :lol: 

 

You realize in your little chart you posted that it shows- in black and white- That every single time the iPhone has been updated, that it has gotten a new chip. But I'm dense? 

 

Actually, you ARE dense...

 

I never said that they don't upgrade their chips, I said that they introduce a new chip when they upgrade their product line.

 

A product line consists of more than just an iPhone....

 

Look at the chart.

You will see that Apple uses the chips in different products.

Not just the iPhone!

 

They have never upgraded their existing product line that compliments existing chip hardware.  Ever.

 

Hmm... Let's see...

 

A5 APL0498 Apple A5 Chip.jpg 45 nm[32] 122.2 mm2[32] ARMv7 0.8–1.0 GHz dual-coreCortex-A9 L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2011
APL2498 Apple-A5-APL2498.jpg 32 nmHKMG[33] 69.6 mm2[33] ARMv7 0.8–1.0 GHz dual-coreCortex-A9(one core disabled in Apple TV) L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2012
APL7498 Apple-A5-APL7498.jpg 32 nm HKMG[39] 37.8 mm2[39] ARMv7 Single-coreCortex-A9 L1: 32 KB instruction + 32 KB data, L2: 1 MB PowerVR SGX543MP2 (dual-core) @ 200–250 MHz (12.8–16 GFLOPS)[65] 32-bit Dual-channel 400 MHz LPDDR2-800 (6.4 GB/sec) March 2013
  • AppleTV 3 (AppleTV3,2

So I guess the A5 chip for the years 2011, 2012, and 2013 doesn't apply...

 

 

 

 

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All you (small handed) people who want to keep the iPhone at 4", good for you. The company will keep producing the 5, 5c, & 5s for the next 3-4 years I'd guess. But the time is needed to produce bigger iPhones for guys with hands larger than ham_bone and his friends? MY friends who have iPhones love the phones and the OS but hate the small screens. 3.5" and 4" screens are too small, my ten year old likes it though. I'm looking forward to 5.5" myself, I'll get that and a new Mac Air and ditch my iPad.
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So I guess the A5 chip for the years 2011, 2012, and 2013 doesn't apply

You're really going to mention an Apple TV 3 revision and an ipad 2 revision when an ipad 3 came out? You also realize that when there was the 2013 revision of the same ATV3 ,the A6 was already 6 months old.

You also realize that your chart isn't even correct- right? It's simply mentioning when THAT chip was created, and what products eventually used that chip. Example- the A7 says "sept 2013" for both iPhone 5s and iPad mini. But the mini wasn't announced until late October. And, really, every other product is almost identically incorrect in terms of dates. Just because the product is next to the date doesn't mean that's when the product came out.
So your whole theory is incorrect. When the A7 was released, they released the iPhone 5S and only the iPhone 5S. Not the "entire product line". It was in one product. One. Just like the A8 will be- just in the iPhone 6. Until a month later when the iPads come out. Then those will get the A8. Dense.

The bottom line is this. You are saying the iPhone 6 won't get an A8 but will get a A7 instead.
And that, alone, makes you sound like a total fool.
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You're really going to mention an Apple TV 3 revision and an ipad 2 revision when an ipad 3 came out? You also realize that when there was the 2013 revision of the same ATV3 ,the A6 was already 6 months old.

You also realize that your chart isn't even correct- right? It's simply mentioning when THAT chip was created, and what products eventually used that chip. Example- the A7 says "sept 2013" for both iPhone 5s and iPad mini. But the mini wasn't announced until late October. And, really, every other product is almost identically incorrect in terms of dates. Just because the product is next to the date doesn't mean that's when the product came out.
So your whole theory is incorrect. When the A7 was released, they released the iPhone 5S and only the iPhone 5S. Not the "entire product line". It was in one product. One. Just like the A8 will be- just in the iPhone 6. Until a month later when the iPads come out. Then those will get the A8. Dense.

The bottom line is this. You are saying the iPhone 6 won't get an A8 but will get a A7 instead.
And that, alone, makes you sound like a total fool.

 

Uh, huh...

Keep telling yourself that.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_system_on_a_chip

 

"A" series[edit]

Evolution of Apple "A" series
 
 
 
A4
March 2010
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A5
March 2011
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A5X
March 2012
 
 
 
A6
September 2012
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A6X
October 2012
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
A7
September 2013
 
 
 

The Apple "A" series is a family of "Systems on Chip" (SoC) used in the iPhoneiPadiPod, and Apple TV. They integrate one or moreARM-based processing cores (CPU), a graphics processing unit (GPU), cache memory and other electronics necessary to provide mobile computing functions within a single physical package. They are designed by Apple, and manufactured by contract manufacturers such asSamsung. The latest A7 SoC used in the iPhone 5S uses a 28 nm process with a dual-core CPU running at 1.3 GHz and quad-core GPU, while the A4 SoC in the first iPad used a die manufactured on a 45 nm process with a single-core CPU running at up to 1 GHz.

Apple A5[edit]

Main article: Apple A5

The Apple A5 is a system on a chip (SoC) designed by Apple and manufactured by Samsung[26] that replaced the A4. The chip commercially debuted with the release of Apple'siPad 2 tablet in March 2011,[27] followed by its release in the iPhone 4S smartphone later that year. Apple claims that compared with its predecessor, the A4, the A5 CPU "can do twice the work" and the GPU has "up to nine times the graphics performance".[28]

The A5 contains a dual-core ARM Cortex-A9 CPU[29] with ARM's advanced SIMD extension, marketed as NEON, and a dual core PowerVR SGX543MP2 GPU. This GPU can push between 70 and 80 million polygons/second and has a pixel fill rate of 2 billion pixels/second. Apple lists the A5 to be clocked at 1 GHz on the iPad 2's technical specifications page,[30] though it can dynamically adjust its frequency to save battery life.[29][31] The clock speed of the unit used in the iPhone 4S is 800 MHz. Like the A4, the A5 process size is 45 nm.[32]

An updated 32 nm version of the A5 processor was used in the third generation Apple TV, the iPad Mini, and the new version of iPad 2 (version iPad2,4).[33] The chip in the Apple TV has one core disabled.[34][35] The markings of the square package indicates that it's named APL2498, and in software, the chip is called S5L8942. The 32 nm variant of the A5 provides around 15% better battery life during web browsing, 30% better when playing 3D games and approximately 20% better battery life during video playback.[36]

In March 2013, Apple released an updated version of the third generation Apple TV (AppleTV3,2) containing a smaller, single-core version of the A5 processor. Unlike the other A5 variants, this version of the A5 is not a package-on-package (PoP), having no stacked RAM. The chip is very small, just 6.1×6.2 mm, but as the decrease in size is not due to a decrease in feature size (it is still on a 32 nm fabrication process), this indicates that this A5 revision is of a new design.[37] Markings tell that it's named APL7498, and in software, the chip is called S5L8947.[38][39]

Apple A7[edit]

Main article: Apple A7

The Apple A7 is a package on package (PoP) 64-bit system-on-a-chip (SoC) designed by Apple. Its first appearance was in the iPhone 5S, which was introduced on September 10, 2013. Apple states that it is up to twice as fast and has up to twice the graphics power compared to its predecessor the Apple A6.[55]

The A7 features an Apple-designed 1.3[56]–1.4[57] GHz 64-bit[58] ARMv8-A[59][60] dual-core CPU,[56] called Cyclone,[59] and an integrated PowerVR G6430 GPU in a four cluster configuration.[61] The ARMv8-A architecture doubles the number of registers of the A7 compared to the A6.[62] It now has 31 general purpose registers that are each 64-bits wide and 32 floating-point/NEON registers that are each 128-bits wide.[58] The A7 is manufactured by Samsung on a high-κ metal gate (HKMG) 28 nm process[63] and the chip includes over 1 billion transistors on a die 102 mm2 in size.[56]

 

The bottom line is this. You are saying the iPhone 6 won't get an A8 but will get a A7 instead.
And that, alone, makes you sound like a total fool.

 

Interesting analysis, that you actually believe that Apple would introduce a next generation chip that doesn't yet exist, in a phone model that will not be an evolution of the iPhone 5S, but simply a larger screened variation of it - in other words a 4.7" and 5.5" iPhone that uses the same technology as the iPhone 5S - an A7 chip with Touch ID. 

Notice that the A7 chip already powers a 7.9" and 9.7" screen in the iPad mini and the iPad Air...

WHY WOULD APPLE THEN NEED AN A8 CHIP TO POWER A 4.7" AND 5.5" SCREEN?

Apple is not producing an iPhone with a next generation chip. Apple is simply producing a larger screened iPhone in its model lineup that will be powered by the same A7 chip and Touch ID in the iPhone 5s; and Apple will refresh the 64 bit iPads with Touch ID. 

When Apple introduces the larger screened iPhone's, Apple's iPhone and iPad line will be:

- iPhone 4s with the A5 chip

- iPhone 5c with the A6 chip

- iPhone 5s with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPhone (6) 4.7" with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPhone (6s) 5.5" with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPad mini with the A5 chip

- iPad mini Retina with the A7 (or A8) chip and Touch ID

- iPad with the A6x chip

- iPad Air with the A7  (or A8) chip and Touch ID

When Apple introduces the 4.7" iPhone 6 and the 5.5" iPhone 6s, customers will have the choice of three different sized flagship phones that will all have the same specifications. The differentiator between the phones will only be the screen size. The iPads with the A7 chip will get the Touch ID technology; which was purposely excluded from the 64 bit iPad line to make Touch ID exclusive to the iPhone 5S, so that the 64 bit iPad with Touch ID will become the "new" iPad as next years model.

This is what Apple will introduce in 2014. 

If Apple does introduce an A8 chip this year, it will be in the 64 bit iPads with Touch ID, not in an iPhone.

 


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I'm not going to quote your entire post because it's obnoxiously long.

Can the A7 power a 4.7 or 5.5 screen? Of course.

The A5 powered an iPad mini, ipad 2 and Retina 3 yet they made an A6 a year later
The A6 powered the ipad 4 and yet they made an A7 a year later
The A7 powers the iPad Air and mini retina- but this is the year they don't update?

Where is the precedent for your claim?

You're under the assumption that all that will change will be the screen size. That isn't the case- never has been.

If the A8 is significantly more power efficient that it can extend the battery life of the iPhone 6 an additional 1-2 hours- why wouldn't they put it in the iPhone?


We'll clearly have to agree to disagree. Cya in September.
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I'm not going to quote your entire post because it's obnoxiously long.

Can the A7 power a 4.7 or 5.5 screen? Of course.

The A5 powered an iPad mini, ipad 2 and Retina 3 yet they made an A6 a year later
The A6 powered the ipad 4 and yet they made an A7 a year later
The A7 powers the iPad Air and mini retina- but this is the year they don't update?

Where is the precedent for your claim?

You're under the assumption that all that will change will be the screen size. That isn't the case- never has been.

If the A8 is significantly more power efficient that it can extend the battery life of the iPhone 6 an additional 1-2 hours- why wouldn't they put it in the iPhone?


We'll clearly have to agree to disagree. Cya in September.

 

You perceive that I lack an understanding of how Apple's business operates.

 

Apple is a focused company with a fully realized business model that shows a clear pattern of how it incrementally refreshes it products, and resells them to an established worldwide marketplace. Apple is always working on refining and advancing its technology, and never introduces everything all at once, but gradually, so that what it introduces is newer and better to its established customer base, which gives them an incentive to buy the newest thing from Apple. Sometimes, product refreshes take years because the technology hasn't caught up with the capability that Apple wants its products to have. And in some cases, product refreshes are incremental, to give customers a reason to buy a different version of the same thing.

 

When Apple introduced the iPhone 5, it had the A6 chip and the metal case. The iPad mini had the A5 chip that was in the iPad 2, and had the same resolution screen of the iPad 2. Why didn't Apple give its customers an iPad mini with the A6x chip and a Retina display? Because Apple needed a smaller lower cost iPad to compete with smaller/cheaper Android tablets, that was also lower priced and less powered than its top of the line iPad Retina with the A6x chip.

 

And, Apple wanted the iPad mini Retina to be next years model, to give customers a reason to buy more iPad mini's.

 

The 64 bit A7 chip and the Touch ID was Apple's next generation technology that Apple introduced in the iPhone 5s the following year.  When Apple introduces the next generation iPhone, the previous generation always become the mid-tier phone. So how could Apple externally differentiate the iPhone 5s from the iPhone 5, to distinguish two premium phones from each other. The metal case of the iPhone 5 was Apple's top of the line design, if Apple offered the iPhone 5s with the same metal case of the iPhone 5, and offered both iPhone models with the same metal case, there would be no physical distinction between the top-tier phone and the mid-tier phone.

 

So Apple went back to the design of the Apple 3GS, and placed the iPhone 5 in a plastic body; and renamed the iPhone 5, the iPhone 5c.

 

This allowed Apple to recycle the metal case of the iPhone 5 into a new product, the iPhone 5s; with two new metallic shades, a 64 bit chip, and a biometric sensor called Touch ID.  Apple also incorporated the 64 bit chip into the iPad line, the iPad mini Retina, and Apple's next generation iPad, the iPad Air, which used an enlarged version of the iPad mini's design, and was made thinner and lighter.  

 

Instead of continuing the pattern of distinguishing products by having a more powerful chip in the top-tier option, Apple chose to make both the smaller iPad mini Retina, and the iPad Air Retina to have the same capacity; so that both tablets were equal in power, but only different in screen size.

 

Which was what Apple did with the Macbook Air line; when it offered the 11" and the 13" models with the same capacity; where the only difference was screen size.

 

This pattern shows how Apple has evolved, and the direction that Apple is going in its iPhone line.

 

Apple's enlargement of the iPhone screen from the iPhone 4 to the iPhone 4s, as well as Apple's development of the iPad mini in response to the demand for smaller Android tablets in the marketplace, is Apple's acknowledgment that the market wants larger screened phones and smaller screened tablets. And now, Apple will introduce two larger iPhones. The 4.7" iPhone 6, and the 5.5" iPhone 6s.

 

Seeing that Apple has two different sized Macbook Air's with the same capacity, and two different sized iPad's with the same capacity; Apple will continue this pattern and create two new iPhones with the same capacity as its top-tier iPhone, so that customers will have the option of choosing a top-tier iPhone in either small, medium, or large.

 

Which means that when Apple introduces the iPhone 6 line, it will have the same capacity as its current top of the line phone, the iPhone 5s.

 

When Touch ID was introduced in 2013, it required the A7 chip. So why didn't the 2013 iPad's with the same A7 chip get Touch ID? Because the two 64 bit iPad's with Touch ID would be this years model.

 

So Apple will introduce two new iPhones and two new iPads in 2014. When Apple introduces the larger screened iPhone's, Apple's iPhone and iPad line will be:

- iPhone 4s with the A5 chip

- iPhone 5c with the A6 chip

- iPhone 5s with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPhone (6) 4.7" with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPhone (6s) 5.5" with the A7 chip and Touch ID

- iPad mini with the A5 chip

- iPad mini Retina with the A7 (or A8) chip and Touch ID

- iPad with the A6x chip

- iPad Air with the A7  (or A8) chip and Touch ID

 

I've already told you what will happen.

 

Time will tell who is right.

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I'm surprised that no one's considered that by tweaking its software, Apple could simply provide some additional settings allowing users to customize the location of buttons or menus that favor one side of the phone or another (i.e. for left handed or right handed use). Even in his original presentation of the 1st iPhone, Steve Jobs remarked that with software, we can provide whatever buttons we want for whatever application we need. App developers would then be able to provide this capability within their own apps. I'm just thinking out of the box here, but it could be a possible solution.
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This thread has completely derailed. As predicted.

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i swear to god it better be a 4" model with all the new specs. 4.7" is suitable for ppl who may want a slightly larger phone. 4" for me is the way go from here on out. I just want to see the technology UPGRADED!!!! NOT THE SIZE OF THE PHONE!!!! Transparency, longer battery life, A BETTER CAMERA!!! Come on APPLE!!! Make me wanna NOT look for another device. Cause if i gota stay with the 5s i will. Seriously its not worth a 4.7" and definitelt nota 5.5" .. The 4."7 can and will fit in a pocket, BUT THATS NOT THE POINT PPL!!! Larger is NOT BETTER!!! TECHNOLOGY/HARDWARE UPGRADES ARE!!!!
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Rather than confirming one-handed use, this video demonstrates the opposite. While it shows that the thumb can reach from side to side of the screen, it cannot reach the top, where an entire row of app icons would be unreachable.

 

According to some here, your belief in this makes you a complete bumbling imbecile, and you should be ridiculed for it.

 

Originally Posted by TechProd1gy View Post
...4.7” is fine to fit in pocket...

 

I don’t think so, Tim.

 

Originally Posted by StanTheMan View Post
So let's don't exaggerate the difference. It will be modest.

 

Unless, of course, you read the article, look at the pictures, or watch the video.

 

Originally Posted by Jume View Post
Why does the home button still need to be so big?

 

TouchID. Also, because why does it need to be smaller?

 

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Apple will probably use this angle to justify the larger screen. I think we'll see redesigned wireless EarPods this year bundled with the new bigger screen phones.

 

Total nonsense.

 

Originally Posted by Lorin Schultz View Post
I get that and don't necessarily disagree, but $100 per bump? Holy Buttrape, Batman!

 

Surveys show that people find this pricing scheme to be very affordable.

 

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Apple most likely will come out with a 64 bit 4.7" and 5.5" phone, while retaining the same technology in the smaller 4" iPhone 5S, and make the iPhone 5C the mid range phone, the iPhone 4S the lower end phone, and phase out the iPhone 4.

 

Okay, it’s not last year. It’s this year. The iPhone 4 is already gone. The 4S is leaving this year.

 
 ...while retaining... ...the original iPad Retina... ...while they phased out the iPad 2.

 

EXCEPT THEY NEVER DID THIS. The 3rd gen iPad was discontinued immediately upon release of the 4th gen, with the 2nd gen iPad kept around to this day.

 
What all of this means is that with the introduction of larger screened iPhones, Apple is going after the market that wants a screen larger than their current iPhone, while not abandoning its customers who prefer a smaller screened phone. 

 

Which would be nice to say if you knew anything about what you were saying, which you don’t.

 

Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post
I'd say the answer is definitely yes.

 

10% of Android sales (which are lying numbers anyway) is “definitely yes” now?

 

Originally Posted by fallenjt View Post
Apple will eventually replace 4" model since 4.7" one is not that bigger than current iPhone 5/5s.

 

Again, not if you look at the images.

 

Originally Posted by Chuck Simon View Post
But the time is needed to produce bigger iPhones for guys with hands larger than ham_bone and his friends?

 

So you’re, what, 6’6”? 6’10”?

 

Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post
This thread has completely derailed. As predicted.

 

Oh, I can do better. *ahem* “The next iPhone will be called iPhone 8.”

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Surveys show that people find this pricing scheme to be very affordable.

 

I call Shenanigans. Show me a survey that says that.

 

We *PAY* it because we have no choice if we want a phone with decent capacity, but that doesn't mean we consider it AFFORDABLE. Just because one ACCEPTS being buttraped doesn't mean (s)he LIKES it.

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I don't get why Apple just don't allow 3G and 4G iPads to make calls, obviously using a headset (wired or bluetooth), although I can see some people holding an iPad mini to their face. That puts pay to these retards who think that a massive screen is the future.

NEWSFLASH: iPad supports FaceTime.
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If Apple does come out with a larger 4.7" and 5.5" phone, Apple will give customers the option of choosing a 64 bit phone in three screen sizes, just as Apple offers a 64 bit iPad in two screen sizes.


Apple most likely will come out with a 64 bit 4.7" and 5.5" phone, while retaining the same technology in the smaller 4" iPhone 5S, and make the iPhone 5C the mid range phone, the iPhone 4S the lower end phone, and phase out the iPhone 4.


This is similar to Apple offering the same 64 Bit A7 chip in the smaller iPad mini Retina and the larger iPad Air Retina, while retaining the non-retina iPad mini with the Dual Core A5 chip, as the lower range iPad, and the original iPad Retina with the Dual Core A6X chip, as the mid range iPad, while they phased out the iPad 2.


What all of this means is that with the introduction of larger screened iPhones, Apple is going after the market that wants a screen larger than their current iPhone, while not abandoning its customers who prefer a smaller screened phone.

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That makes no sense whatsoever.

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I think we'll see this:

iPhone Air 5.5 with A8 and 16GB: $299 (on contract)
iPhone Air 4.7 with A8 and 16GB: $199 (on contract)
iPhone Color* 4.0 with A7 and 16GB: $99 (on contract)
iPhone 5C 4.0 with A6 and 8GB: $0 (on contract)

*The iPhone "Color" is an iPhone 5S repackaged in a plastic case just like the 5C, but it will include Touch ID.

Really?

Tell me something, which is more likely...

Your idea of Apple producing an A8 chip in less than a year of developing the A7 chip, for the sole purpose of incorporating the newer chip in a larger screened 4.7" and 5.5" phone like you proposed in your post (at your quoted prices)...

Or...

Apple leveraging their 64 bit A7 chip, which has the horsepower to power an iPad mini Retina Display, and an iPad Air Retina Display, and creating two larger 64 bit iPhone screen sizes...

What you must realize is that when Apple upgrades their mobile processors, their focus is to increase horsepower AND increase power efficiency, and that such upgrades happen gradually over time. Apple always first leverages their existing chips into new product lines, and follows a product life cycle before they introduce a new chip (which only happens when Apple refreshes its product line).

The iPhone 4 is at the end of its product life and can no longer support the software upgrades, so Apple will phase out the iPhone 4 and the iPhone 4S will take its place as the budget iPhone. The iPhone 5C was the iPhone 5 (with the body of the iPhone 5S). Apple differentiated the previous iPhone 5 from the iPhone 5S, by making the metallic iPhone 5 the plastic iPhone 5C, and taking the iPhone 5's metallic body and giving it a new internal makeover with the 64 bit A7 chip and Touch ID, and calling it the iPhone 5S.

Apple just refreshed its product line with the Touch ID and the A7 chip in the iPhone 5S, and the A7 chip in the iPad mini Retina and the iPad Air Retina. Apple will refresh the 64 bit A7 chip iPad line with Touch ID (since only the A7 chip can handle Touch ID). The logical upgrade path to the iPhone line is a 64 bit iPhone 5S with Touch ID in a 4.7" and 5.5" screen size; which allows Apple to sell the same phone technology without having to create different logic boards for different screen sizes.

Once the 64 bit iPhone and iPad lines are established globally, only then will Apple introduce an A8 chip in a 12" iPad, which most likely will be a Macbook Air tablet powered by an A8 chip, with a Mac OS that can run both desktop Mac apps, and mobile iOS apps - which would have a detachable Bluetooth Apple Keyboard/Magic Trackpad dock.

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I don't get why Apple just don't allow 3G and 4G iPads to make calls, obviously using a headset (wired or bluetooth), although I can see some people holding an iPad mini to their face. That puts pay to these retards who think that a massive screen is the future.

NEWSFLASH: iPad supports FaceTime.

 

NEWSFLASH: My doctor's office doesn't have FaceTime. Neither does the garage where we take the car for repairs. You get the idea.

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NEWSFLASH: My doctor's office doesn't have FaceTime. Neither does the garage where we take the car for repairs. You get the idea.

 

Yeah, that’s not something that can be said.

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I don't get why Apple just don't allow 3G and 4G iPads to make calls, obviously using a headset (wired or bluetooth), although I can see some people holding an iPad mini to their face. That puts pay to these retards who think that a massive screen is the future.


NEWSFLASH: iPad supports FaceTime.

NEWSFLASH: My doctor's office doesn't have FaceTime. Neither does the garage where we take the car for repairs. You get the idea.

NEWSFLASH: I was replying to Evilution. Schutz! 😉
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I don't get why Apple just don't allow 3G and 4G iPads to make calls, obviously using a headset (wired or bluetooth), although I can see some people holding an iPad mini to their face. That puts pay to these retards who think that a massive screen is the future.


NEWSFLASH: iPad supports FaceTime.

NEWSFLASH: My doctor's office doesn't have FaceTime. Neither does the garage where we take the car for repairs. You get the idea.

NEWSFLASH: I was replying to Evilution. Schutz! 😉

 

I know. Even though I hated doing so, I was challenging your contention that one can avoid holding up a large device to make phone calls by using FaceTime instead. I wish that were true, but unless Apple opens it up it ain't ever gonna be anything more than an "inside crowd" feature exclusive to iPhone users. One still needs to be able to make plain ol' fashioned phone calls.

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NEWSFLASH: My doctor's office doesn't have FaceTime. Neither does the garage where we take the car for repairs. You get the idea.

 

Yeah, that’s not something that can be said.

 

Really. You can can make a doctor appointment over FaceTime, can you? Book repairs for your car?

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Really. You can can make a doctor appointment over FaceTime, can you? Book repairs for your car?

 

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Originally Posted by Lorin Schultz View Post

Really. You can can make a doctor appointment over FaceTime, can you? Book repairs for your car?

 

Not sure how this is a reply.

 

Evilution said adding voice calling to an iPad would illustrate how stupid it is to hold a big device to your ear. Benjamin pointed out that the iPad can use FaceTime. I said that's not the same as voice calling since you can't call the doctor or the garage with FaceTime. You said "that's not something that can be said." I took that to mean that you disagree with what I said, so I'm asking you to explain how you can use FaceTime as a replacement for voice calling. Can you call the doctor with FaceTime? My Dad? The kids' school?

Lorin Schultz (formerly V5V)

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V5V Digital Media, Vancouver, BC Canada

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