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Apple's chief executive Tim Cook quipped to a journalist that she should "get a new phone" as she posed questions during the exclusive gathering of tech and media executives at Sun Valley, Idaho.

July 9, 2014


The annual Sun Valley event, which has been held by investment bank Allen & Co. since 1983, brings together executives to discuss industry issues and talk deals. It was reportedly the birthplace of Comcast's 2011 acquisition of NBC Universal, for example.

Hoping to get a scoop on the next big deal, reporters are swarming the event, where Cook has been joined by Apple's head of iTunes and Internet service Eddy Cue, as Amazon chief Jeff Bezos, Google chairman Eric Schmidt, News Corp chief Rupert Murdoch and lots of other billionaires including Warren Buffett, Bill Gates and Mark Zuckerberg.

Bloomberg's "Hollywood reporter" Anousha Sakoui tweeted "Ok Apple's Tim cook just told me to upgrade my phone. It's a Samsung. I don't think I redeemed myself by saying I also had an iPhone," followed later by, "For the record Tim Cook is one of the nicest people I've met."

July 9, 2014


Getting more than upgrade advice out of the events attendees proved to be a much more difficult task. New York Post reporter Kaja Whitehouse tweeted, "Asked Harvey Weinstein to talk about his plans to sell his TV division. "You know we're under seal here," he replied. #sunvalley blues."

She did get a paparazzi photo of Apple's Cook walking in with Cue, however.

July 9, 2014



Wall Street Journal reporter Doug MacMillan tweeted out a picture of Cook being "chased" by CNN Money correspondent Cristina Alesci, noting "no watch on that wrist." The photo was retweeted by Wall Street Journal writer Daisuke Wakabayashi and Re/Code editor Arik Hesseldahl.

July 9, 2014


BusinessInsider's Jay Yarrow also cited the tweet in an all caps update, "TIM COOK IS AT SUN VALLEY," which prompted journalist Jason Del Rey of Re/Code to add "AND HIS BICEPS LOOK GREAT."

Invited attendees have also been warned about drones in the air trying to snoop out a story, according to a report by Bloomberg.
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Tim Cook is in great shape for 53.

 

maybe he's using a prototype iWatch to workout?

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The belles of the #sunvalley ball. @tim_cook walks in with Eddy Cue. I took this photo with my iPad pic.twitter.com/YDF0oFOJ0S

-- Kaja Whitehouse (@kajawhitehouse)

July 9, 2014

When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?

Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

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Ok Apple's Tim cook just told me to upgrade my phone. It's a Samsung. I dont think I redeemed myself by saying I also had an iPhone

-- Anousha (@anoushasakoui)

Then you should have also told Tim Cook you keep that Samcrap phone to remind you of how bad it is on the other side of the smartphone spectrum.

 

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When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?

Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

 

Oh, don't be a snob, there's nothing wrong with using an iPad to take a video, for one it's much easier to edit your videos with iMovie and then upload them to the web. Since videos are shrunked down most of time anyway the 5MP camera is more then acceptable.

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Oh, don't be a snob, there's nothing wrong with using an iPad to take a video, for one it's much easier to edit your videos with iMovie and then upload them to the web. Since videos are shrunked down most of time anyway the 5MP camera is more then acceptable.

Correct, easier to edit, and if it's the one you have in your hand at a good moment, well then . . . who cares what you look like? You got the shot.
Edited by Flaneur - 7/9/14 at 9:53pm
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Oh, don't be a snob, there's nothing wrong with using an iPad to take a video, for one it's much easier to edit your videos with iMovie and then upload them to the web. Since videos are shrunked down most of time anyway the 5MP camera is more then acceptable.

Sorry, but as much as I love iPad's, I look down upon people who try to use it as a Point-and-Shoot camera, as it makes them look like total tools. If the iPad is mounted in a pro mount and used for video capture, it at least looks more at place for that role.

 

I really wish Apple would eliminate the rear camera from iPad's. And as Andysol pointed out, the iPhone 5C/S camera is far superior, and far more pocketable / portable, so no reason to use an inferior product for such an important event.

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Then you should have also told Tim Cook you keep that Samcrap phone to remind you of how bad it is on the other side of the smartphone spectrum.

 

 

Nah, I would have had some fun with it by politely saying I was waiting for the expiration of my contract so I could upgrade to the new Samsung S5 and then continue by saying how intuitive Samsung was for inventing things like the built-in thumb reader and then ask if Apple will come out with a similar solution. Then sit back and watch Tim have a conniption fit, would have made a better story then just simply telling Mr. Cook, oh, I also have an iPhone, if your going to lie go all in.
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Nah, I would have had some fun with it by politely saying I was waiting for the expiration of my contract so I could upgrade to the new Samsung S5 and then continue by saying how intuitive Samsung was for inventing things like the built-in thumb reader and then ask if Apple will come out with a similar solution. Then sit back and watch Tim have a conniption fit, would have made a better story then just simply telling Mr. Cook, oh, I also have an iPhone, if your going to lie go all in.

Sorry, but Tim Cook didn't get to be CEO of the world's best company by being stupid. Had you said that, he'd have just scuffed you off and walked away, as I would've done.

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When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?
Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

As a person who does videography for dance recitals... I agree wholeheartedly!

Luckily... no one is allowed to video at my recitals on recital day... but they can stand up front and video during rehearsal days.

On a side note... I've seen many people record video at a dance competitions. The nice thing is that you can watch it immediately on the iPad on the larger screen. I'll give those people a pass 1smile.gif

But they still look kinda silly 1biggrin.gif
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When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?

Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

 

I think that Apple should have equal cameras in the top iPhone model and the top iPad model.

 

I also don't see any problems with taking a picture with an iPad, if it had an equally as good camera. The screen is much, much bigger and is more enjoyable and easier to frame a good picture with.

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Sorry, but as much as I love iPad's, I look down upon people who try to use it as a Point-and-Shoot camera, as it makes them look like total tools. If the iPad is mounted in a pro mount and used for video capture, it at least looks more at place for that role.

 

I really wish Apple would eliminate the rear camera from iPad's. And as Andysol pointed out, the iPhone 5C/S camera is far superior, and far more pocketable / portable, so no reason to use an inferior product for such an important event.

 

The artists paint brush is just the tool that's used to save ones imaginative ideas onto a format that they can share with others. The iPad, though not as powerful as say an iPhone or as compact, is still more then capable of producing incredible memories, art, entertainment, whatever ones imagination can think of. No one cares if they look like a tool when using an iPad to take videos and why should they as it's a ridiculous notion reserved for the insecure among us, are you saying you're insecure, are you afraid that someone might not think you cool. We're not using this type of technology to win any popularity contests or even too make as feel pretty, we use it, like the artist with his or hers paint brush, to make our thoughts and fantasies become reality. So, who cares what others think about us or what you may think about them, stop being that person, it's ugly.

 

Here is a beautiful preview of a short film that was shot entirely using an iPad. After you watch it and you should, do you still consider the people behind this wonderful little film as tools.

 

 

....and the full movie is here.

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I really wish Apple would eliminate the rear camera from iPad's.

 

No way!

 

Sometimes when I am video chatting with somebody, I flip from the front camera to the back camera if I need to show them something. The back camera is definitely useful, but as I said in a previous reply, I'd like to see Apple upgrade the camera quality to match the iPhone camera quality, at least on the top models.

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Sorry, but Tim Cook didn't get to be CEO of the world's best company by being stupid. Had you said that, he'd have just scuffed you off and walked away, as I would've done.

 

It's a joke silly, you know funny, funny, haha, what did the Joker say in the Dark Knight, oh yea, "why so serious".

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Went from snapping a photo with an iPad to an all out stupidfest about video of recitals...

Blah

Whats the difference in using an iPad to take a photo and using a phone with a 5.5 to 6" phone?

Who cares?
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Went from snapping a photo with an iPad to an all out stupidfest about video of recitals...

Blah

Whats the difference in using an iPad to take a photo and using a phone with a 5.5 to 6" phone?

Who cares?

I have to agree, especially now that I use my iPad Mini as a "phone" (I don't talk on the phone a lot and one is required to either use it in speakerphone mode or via a headset, I at least don't have to hold it up to my head :P ).

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Went from snapping a photo with an iPad to an all out stupidfest about video of recitals...

Blah

Whats the difference in using an iPad to take a photo and using a phone with a 5.5 to 6" phone?

Who cares?

That's the nature of internet forum comments 1biggrin.gif
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Went from snapping a photo with an iPad to an all out stupidfest about video of recitals...

Blah

Whats the difference in using an iPad to take a photo and using a phone with a 5.5 to 6" phone?

Who cares?

Apparently the Justin Bieber generation does as it's not swag. What people have forgotten is that this is what we used to use to take videos with.

 

 

Sex tapes were a lot more difficult to make back then as it was almost impossible to hide the damn things. Wow, even your pubic hair has side burns.

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Sorry, but as much as I love iPad's, I look down upon people who try to use it as a Point-and-Shoot camera, as it makes them look like total tools. If the iPad is mounted in a pro mount and used for video capture, it at least looks more at place for that role.

I really wish Apple would eliminate the rear camera from iPad's. And as Andysol pointed out, the iPhone 5C/S camera is far superior, and far more pocketable / portable, so no reason to use an inferior product for such an important event.


You 'look down'? Really? 1oyvey.gif Some of us switch between iPads, iPhones, and many thousands of dollars worth of Canons with L lenses and Sony Pro 4 K video cameras. It's about the right tool at the time or whatever you have on hand. Then it's up to talent. Looking down at others is pretty silly IMHO, it could be you are looking down at a pro that happens to want to use an iPad for his or her own reasons.
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... you look like a douche parent at a dance recital ...

 

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... I look down upon people who try to use it as a Point-and-Shoot camera, as it makes them look like total tools. ...

 

People say this all the time, but no one ever gives a reason why.  It's always "I don't like it." or "you look stupid" or some other pejorative, personal and highly subjective remark.  

 

You know who really comes across as a "douche" or a "tool"???  The kind who call people names for no reason at all.  

 

One really good reason to use the iPad as a camera?  It has the biggest, nicest viewfinder of any camera available today.  Before the iPhone and iPad came out manufacturers of cameras crawled all over themselves trying to be the one with the biggest, clearest viewfinder on the back.  Now all of a sudden a camera that has the biggest, clearest viewfinder of all is a joke?  Why?  

 

No f*cking reason at all, that's why. 

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Using an iPad to video/photo and blocking sight lines when others are behind you - that's being a tool.  I really like the person that doesn't allow cameras at performances.

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As a person who does videography for dance recitals... I agree wholeheartedly!

Luckily... no one is allowed to video at my recitals on recital day... but they can stand up front and video during rehearsal days.

On a side note... I've seen many people record video at a dance competitions. The nice thing is that you can watch it immediately on the iPad on the larger screen. I'll give those people a pass 1smile.gif

But they still look kinda silly 1biggrin.gif

Yep, a tablet really doesn't belong at a video shoot ... I can see why so many are 'looking down' and laughing at people that use tablets in video situations .... /s

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Using an iPad to video/photo and blocking sight lines when others are behind you - that's being a tool.  I really like the person that doesn't allow cameras at performances.

Now that's a different story, and I agree, but a smart phone held up is just as obnoxious in certain situations. At an Eagles concert recently I could hardly see the stage for a Samsung held up to video by a moron in the seat in front of me. It wasn't the size but the fully bright screen blinding me that was the problem. On there other hand, I was in front of the Mendenhall glacier the other day and I saw every type of recoding device being used and plenty of room. There were many iPads and iPhones as well as high end Canons etc.. It's all good in such situations.
Edited by digitalclips - 7/9/14 at 2:18pm
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You 'look down'? Really? 1oyvey.gif Some of us switch between iPads, iPhones, and many thousands of dollars worth of Canons with L lenses and Sony Pro 4 K video cameras. It's about the right tool at the time or whatever you have on hand. Then it's up to talent. Looking down at others is pretty silly IMHO, it could be you are looking down at a pro that happens to want to use an iPad for his or her own reasons.

 

I know right, must be a young person who doesn't appreciate how far we have actually come with video technology. There is absolutely nothing wrong with someone using their iPad in public to take videos or photos. I have a Canon 5D II with battery grip, a Canon 100mm - 400mm lens with the 2x extender to make it 800mm. I'm a tiny little bald women(cancer), I look absolutely ridiculous, I know this, the people around me know this but not once do I ever feel like an idiot, tool or even self conscious because it was all about the shot, the art, the technology. I know for an absolute fact that a mommy or daddy taking photos of their kids at the park with their iPad may not be a Vanity Fair spread but mark my words, those photos are more precious to them then anything Ansel Adams could have done and at no point did they look over their shoulder to see of someone was watching, judging, quietly thinking to themselves, what a bunch of tools. Yow know what, I think people who use iPhones for photos are idiots, yeppers sure do, why you ask, simple, you don't have a 41MP camera like my Nokia 1020 does, 8MP, loosers, how can anyone take worth while photos with only 8MP. That was me making a point by the way, I have to say it for those who have no sense of humor and take everything literally.

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Rear facing camera on the iPad allows me to list things on eBay without getting my Mac involved. So much more convenient. Leave it alone, you hipsters! 1wink.gif
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Yep, a tablet really doesn't belong at a video shoot ... I can see why so many are 'looking down' and laughing at people that use tablets in video situations .... /s

Oh wow, neat, I want it!

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Thank goodness there are still companies out there who cater to us tools.

 

 

Nothing to see here, move on. I just wouldn't be able to live with myself if I was responsible for making any of you look like jack asses by using things like this, please, stop looking, I said I couldn't live with myself, you know because image is everything.


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So, the folks using iPads to take photos / videos don't give a flying fsck what you nor anyone else thinks about how they look. They're just getting things done.

Big whoop, so it looks "stupid" to your eyes. I imagine Ansel Adams looked goofy carrying around those large box cameras, too.
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Oh, don't be a snob, there's nothing wrong with using an iPad to take a video, for one it's much easier to edit your videos with iMovie and then upload them to the web. Since videos are shrunked down most of time anyway the 5MP camera is more then acceptable.

Sorry- did I read it wrong? Did she take a video?

No? Ok- so your point is completely irrelevant.

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Sorry- did I read it wrong? Did she take a video?

No? Ok- so your point is completely irrelevant.

Ugh, video, photos, semantics and you know it, point still stands.

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Ugh, video, photos, semantics and you know it, point still stands.

No- it doesn't. You specifically mentioned how editing a movie is easier on an iPad. Duh. Oh course it is. Were talking about a pic that goes through Photostream that you can access on any device or Mac for editing automatically. So it doesn't apply. Taking a pic on your iPad is dumb in most cases. Some, like the Craigslist example, are fine. But if you're a freaking reporter on twitter- you should use the better quality camera at your disposal.

Let's try this-
So if the iPhone 6 got the iPad Air camera, would you be happy?
Let me guess- she didn't have her iPhone on her, just an iPad? Who doesn't have their phone on them? Quality matters.

People are simply uneducated. The beautiful air screen looks gorgeous and you can see the picture fantastically. So they think it takes a great pic. Sure, it does. But vastly inferior to the iPhone. That's my point. Ya- it's annoying when they're in from of you. But you're just being ignorant if you're taking a pic.

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Using an iPad to video/photo and blocking sight lines when others are behind you - that's being a tool.  I really like the person that doesn't allow cameras at performances.

 

It all depends. An iPad is merely a tool to capture video with or take pictures with, and it has a wonderful large display, so why wouldn't people want to use it. And what if that's all that they have?

 

Screw the other people in the crowd. Everybody is annoying in their own way. Some women have huge, ridiculous looking hair that blocks the view. Some people talk too much. Some people smell. Some people are just naturally tall and block the vertical view. Some people are fat and they block the horizontal view. 

 

So what if somebody is using an iPad? Who says that cameras have to be small or have small view finders? A large display is perfectly suited for photography.

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 But you're just being ignorant if you're taking a pic.

No, I'm not, it was what two years ago when the iPhone 4 only had 5MP, did you not use your phone then to take pictures, did you not say that your photos were as good as a phone with a 8MP camera. Look, you utilize the tools you have, I commented to your post because you said a parent looks like a douche (a device used to clean out a woman's vagina) when taking pictures of their kids using an iPad. You don't find that comment just a little ridiculous, your judging a person on the technology they use to make memories. I guess not everyone can be cool as you when taking pictures with your iPhone. You know your in the wrong here don't you and no amount of spinning is going to take that back.

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That's great and all...however my mother is suffering from early onset macular degeneration which thankfully we caught early. She uses an iPad so that she can take pics of her grandkids without struggling to see settings, edits, etc. if someone made a comment about my mothers iPad usage around me the results wouldn't be pleasant.

Don't be an ass. Maybe that's all the reporter had handy. Since you don't know, don't be a douche about it.
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Sorry, but as much as I love iPad's, I look down upon people who try to use it as a Point-and-Shoot camera, as it makes them look like total tools. If the iPad is mounted in a pro mount and used for video capture, it at least looks more at place for that role.

I really wish Apple would eliminate the rear camera from iPad's. And as Andysol pointed out, the iPhone 5C/S camera is far superior, and far more pocketable / portable, so no reason to use an inferior product for such an important event.
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When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?
Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

It's super-common. I see that everywhere. Hell, I take pictures with my iPad all the time. I so wish its camera was on spec with the iPhone 5s, though.

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Tim Cook: "Let them eat cake."

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I would have attributed such direct commentary to Steve. Way to go, Tim.

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Using an iPad to video/photo and blocking sight lines when others are behind you - that's being a tool.  I really like the person that doesn't allow cameras at performances.

Apple changed the way we live, work and play. Calling people names doesn't un-dent the universe.

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Screw the other people in the crowd. Everybody is annoying in their own way. Some women have huge, ridiculous looking hair that blocks the view. Some people talk too much. Some people smell. Some people are just naturally tall and block the vertical view. Some people are fat and they block the horizontal view. 

 

Okay, well, the only time it's really mattered to me was at a public aquarium, during feeding time for a particular tank.  You're talking about a roomful of people, all standing on the same level, all looking toward a very narrow "window" of view.

 

Someone on the front "row", choosing to hold their big honkin' tablet up to the glass, over their heads (remember, there's no one in front of them), thereby ruining the experience for the remaining hundred-or-so on hand, is just being thoughtless.

 

It's not so much the tablet, per se.  It's more about thoughtless people.

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When will people realize that their iPhone camera is significantly better than their iPad camera?

Forget the fact you look like a douche parent at a dance recital...

 

People don't CARE what we technophiles think. In fact, we're probably the LAST people anyone would consider as a barometer of what's "cool."

 

The camera in the iPad is better than the DV camera it replaced, and framing is way easier with that great big viewfinder!

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