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Rumor: Apple's 'iWatch' will come in two sizes, three models when it launches this fall

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Apple is said to be planning to release a wrist-worn device this fall with touchscreen sizes of 1.6 and 1.8 inches, with the larger having an option for sapphire, according to the latest "iWatch" rumor out of the Far East.

"iWatch" concept by Martin Hajek.


The 1.8-inch variant of the so-called "iWatch" is rumored to come in two models: one with and one without a scratch-resistant sapphire screen cover, according to the Economic Daily News. The report was first spotted on Tuesday by G for Games.

The report claimed that the use of sapphire on Apple's anticipated "iWatch" is expected to pave the way for potentially using the hardened material on future iPhone models, such as an "iPhone 6S" or "iPhone 7." That would suggest that Apple isn't planning to use any sapphire covers on this year's anticipated "iPhone 6," as has been rumored.

Last week, well-connected analyst Ming-Chi Kuo of KGI Securities revealed that mass production of Apple's "iWatch" is expected to be pushed back to November, due to alleged challenges in bringing the device to market. According to Kuo, availability of the rumored device may be extremely limited this fall.

The screen sizes reported on Tuesday of 1.6 and 1.8 inches are also a bit larger than earlier claims by Kuo, who first said in April that the device is expected to come in two smaller sizes of 1.3 and 1.5 inches. The display panels are rumored to be flexible AMOLED technology, and Kuo believes that all models will come with sapphire covers.

Still other reports have pegged the display size even larger, with one rumor from Reuters last month claiming the "iWatch" will sport a 2.5-inch touchscreen panel. That report claimed that the screen will be "slightly rectangular," and the face is expected to protrude slightly from the band to create an arch shape.

iWatchiWatch concept by Todd Hamilton


A key selling point for Apple's "iWatch" is believed to be a series of biometric sensors that would provide users with feedback on health and fitness. It's expected that the device will tap into the new HealthKit tools for developers that Apple will include in its forthcoming iOS 8 mobile operating system.

Tuesday's report from EDN also made claims about a larger 12.9-inch tablet from Apple, which has been colloquially dubbed the "iPad Pro." The publication believes that the jumbo-sized iPad will be formally introduced before the end of 2014.

However, back in February, Kuo characterized a 2014 launch for the "iPad Pro" as unlikely. Instead, he believes this year's iPad refresh will focus on bringing Touch ID and a faster A8 processor to the iPad Air and iPad mini.
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If it ends up being created, we'll just wait for the leaks and then all these analysts can revise their predictions. Clearly the expected sizes will have changed because of "constraint issues" on the supply line. 1rolleyes.gif

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Clearly the 1.8 is being positioned as the more technologically advanced, "pro" model. /s

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Can these rumors get any sillier?
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Rumor: Apple's 'iWatch' will come in two sizes, three models when it launches...

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Can these rumors get any sillier?
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Can these rumors get any sillier?

 

They can claim Martin Hajek is the new official designer for Apple.

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I wonder how long it will take for Samsung to reveal plans for one that covers the entire forearm,

doubling, no doubt, as a shield to deflect any criticisms…?  

They'll probably refer to it as a "Wablet".

 

Perhaps Apple should simply forego the watch thing entirely and move straight on to 

a fully functional "neural net",  à la those wonderful "Culture" novels?

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Who cares?
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Can these rumors get any sillier?

All signs point to "yes".

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They can claim Martin Hajek is the new official designer for Apple.

But Todd Hamilton should be because his design is actually quite impressive and goes a long way to solve the problem of limited screen real-estate on a watch surface.    My bet is that Apple's final design, which if the rumored sizes are correct will be a traditional almost square screen, will be nowhere near as cool or as effective as his.  

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If ever there was a product category for Apple to completely dominate, this one is it. They would have to fumble pretty badly not to control this product category in its entirety.

We are almost certain the iwatch will instantly create a collectible market for them.
Android on the other hand will face an uphill battle
in this category as they already
have a reputation as a disposable
brand. They may may be able to
fill the utility aspect but as we
have seen, they leave a lot to be
desired in terms of quality and
design. The brand is tainted in
that regard. Unless Apple fumbles
badly, It may be a product
category Android will be forever
unable to profitably compete in
anything but the low margin low
end.
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If ever there was a product category for Apple to completely dominate, this one is it. They would have to fumble pretty badly not to control this product category in its entirety.

We are almost certain the iwatch will instantly create a collectible market for them.

 

A collectible market?   You can only have a collectible market when supply is heavily limited.   Apple produces mass-market items that sell in the tens of millions of units.   There's no such thing as a collectible market in that case.   What collectible items from Apple are there today (aside possibly from a working Apple ][ )?

 

And how can Apple fumble?    If the product isn't that great and then Samsung or someone else copies it and puts it out at half the price. 

 

Besides, with the possible exception of exercise monitoring, what purpose will an iWatch serve that an iPhone doesn't already serve?    How many devices do people want to own before they've said "enough"?    Are people really going to carry an iWatch, an iPhone, an iPad and possibly a computer as well?    Even with iCloud, the sync issues can drive one nuts. 

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A collectible market?   You can only have a collectible market when supply is heavily limited.   Apple produces mass-market items that sell in the tens of millions of units.  

I think in this case 'collectable' means that if it comes in multiple styles and colors, people might buy several. It is sort of like the wife's collection of shoes. It is fashion not just utility. Personally I think it is a ridiculous product for Apple to get into, but that is just me, I don't like wristwatches. 

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If ever there was a product category for Apple to completely dominate, this one is it. They would have to fumble pretty badly not to control this product category in its entirety.

We are almost certain the iwatch will instantly create a collectible market for them.
Android on the other hand will face an uphill battle
in this category as they already
have a reputation as a disposable
brand. They may may be able to
fill the utility aspect but as we
have seen, they leave a lot to be
desired in terms of quality and
design. The brand is tainted in
that regard. Unless Apple fumbles
badly, It may be a product
category Android will be forever
unable to profitably compete in
anything but the low margin low
end.

A lot desired in Quality and design? You are aware that the Moto 360 is the best looking smartwatch on the market. Their is also no conceivable way apple can take over this segment. The iwatch will only work with iphones.
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Clearly the 1.8 is being positioned as the more technologically advanced, "pro" model. /s

If so I will definitely purchase the iWatch Pro with the Intel CPU and the ability to do real work with Microsoft Office although I may need a kickstand for the iWatch Pro.
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Apple is said to be planning to release a wrist-worn device this fall with touchscreen sizes of 1.6 and 1.8 inches, with the larger having an option for sapphire, according to the latest "iWatch" rumor out of the Far East.

 

Another reliable analyst, Kim Jong-un, says that Apple already tested the iWatch. He reports the sizes as being 4.7" and 5.5" but declined to comment further citing his NDA with Apple.¡

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Who is this Kuo character anyway? This watch thingy changes shape and size with startling rapidity. How much money are theses pundits making out of guessing????
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This watch.

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A lot desired in Quality and design? You are aware that the Moto 360 is the best looking smartwatch on the market. Their is also no conceivable way apple can take over this segment. The iwatch will only work with iphones.

The 360 and the rest are tragedies only Casio loving tech nerds could love. The 360 is a complete fail beforem it is ever released. The Android Gear products so far are testaments in fail.
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"Rumor: Apple's 'iWatch' will come in two sizes, three models when it launches this fall"

What a shitty headline, including the launching in the fall as a fact, when it's anything but.
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Introducing the iWatchAir and the iWatchMini. ;-)

Or would it be the iBandAir and the iBandMini?

LOL
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The 360 is too big. We do NOT need a simple cellphone extension device.

Game changing would be authenticated payments, substantial health contribution (doubtful), or authenticated home control. None of these should be dependent on a phone.

Battery life needs to be amazing and wirelessly charged (tesla style at a distance).

Anything that is simply a cellphone extender, we have no reason to buy.

I wouldn't be suprised if they went for a different watch for different primary functions in order to maximize battery life for early versions.

Smartwatches or other wearables WILL be huge if you let your imagination run wild. I can imagine so many simple functions such as the elimination of your keys and credit card to name a few.

If the watch doesnt have touch ID, im gonna get suspicious about its usefulness immediately.

The android watches have NO purpose except to show others that you are a dork.
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I don't care so min about the size. The real important question is: but will it b(l)end? 1wink.gif
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IOS 8 is strongly hinting at iWatch features such as voice messaging and quick contextual replies. The UI and experience as demonstrated is in my opinion not portable to neither 1.6" nor 1.8" display. In fact, no software, let alone Apple-class apps and user experience is possible on such tiny displays. Just look at Android Wear. I cannot agree more with John Gruber from Daring Fireball who refers to it as "half-baked mess".

I expect Apple to introduce the largest display ever created for a wearable device. Though large, a thin profile and flexible materials will make it look sleek and futuristic. Just as the iPhone did not look like any other phone before it, the iWatch will not look like any other watch/wearable ever created.
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Apple is said to be planning to release a wrist-worn device this fall with touchscreen sizes of 1.6 and 1.8 inches, with the larger having an option for sapphire...

 

How stupid do they think we are?

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Can these rumors get any sillier?

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...The iwatch will only work with iphones.

You can't possibly know that. Just because Samsung has their Gear dependent on (only a couple of) their phones.

 

I believe a number of the "killer apps" will be non-iPhone related... BUT, of course, it will sync and/or be controlled by iPhone/iPad/iPod/iCloud!!!

 

Imagine being able to push the results of an iWatch app to iCloud (automatically and for free, of course). Manipulate and work with the data on your Mac OR PC... but it wouldn't sync with Android phones. Screw them.

 

This would make the iWatch have the accessibility to PC users much like the iPod. Perhaps Apple would release these as Mac only at first (like iPod) -- followed up with an update in 6 months or so for the PC. A Proof-of-Concept strategy. This scenario is unlikely because of the massive success of the ENTIRE company once iPods were PC compatible. Why wait?

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Introducing the iWatchAir and the iWatchMini. ;-)

Or would it be the iBandAir and the iBandMini?

LOL

And there could be a special category of Apple Care called iBandAid, yes?

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"Rumor: Apple's 'iWatch' will come in two sizes, three models when it launches this fall"

What a shitty headline, including the launching in the fall as a fact, when it's anything but.

 

Did you miss the word "rumor"? If you'd accused AI of writing a pointless article based on meaningless speculation, I'd be with you, but the word "rumor" eliminates the problem you're complaining about. Would you prefer "Rumor: Apple's rumored 'iWatch' is rumored to be produced in two sizes and rumored to be produced in three models when it's rumored to be launched, purportedly in the fall"?

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Did you miss the word "rumor"? If you'd accused AI of writing a pointless article based on meaningless speculation, I'd be with you, but the word "rumor" eliminates the problem you're complaining about. Would you prefer "Rumor: Apple's rumored 'iWatch' is rumored to be produced in two sizes and rumored to be produced in three models when it's rumored to be launched, purportedly in the fall"?

To be fair, your proposed headline is more explicit.
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iWatch ... can fail ... if the product isn't that great and then Samsung or someone else copies it and puts it out at half the price. 

It would help if the competition can make a profit doing so...
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The way I see it, the reason for all the confusion over the "iWatch" is because the sources of the rumors continue to believe there is only one type of iWatch. How the heck can anyone get any decent battery life in a decent size and shape if they stuff one thing with all possible sensors and functions? OK, maybe someday but I don't see the technology being there now.

 

I am still holding to my belief that Apple will introduce three types of "iWatch" (but won't use that name): 1) a sports/fitness device, 2) a health monitor device, and (later on) an upscale, luxury watch OR technology that would add limited notification functions to existing luxury brands thru licensing. While I'm skeptical about these rumors, they would nearly fit my 1) and 2) proposals. And, yes, I think Apple is smart enough to have men's and women's versions - something Google's macho male engineers don't comprehend.

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 And, yes, I think Apple is smart enough to have men's and women's versions - something Google's macho male engineers don't comprehend.

If you'd been to Latin America recently, you may have noticed that fashionable men are wearing watches the size of dinner plates and their wives are apparently wearing their husband's previous not as large chronometers simply as a luxury fashion statment. Pretty funny actually.

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A collectible market?   You can only have a collectible market when supply is heavily limited.   Apple produces mass-market items that sell in the tens of millions of units.   There's no such thing as a collectible market in that case.   What collectible items from Apple are there today (aside possibly from a working Apple ][ )?

And how can Apple fumble?    If the product isn't that great and then Samsung or someone else copies it and puts it out at half the price. 

Besides, with the possible exception of exercise monitoring, what purpose will an iWatch serve that an iPhone doesn't already serve?    How many devices do people want to own before they've said "enough"?    Are people really going to carry an iWatch, an iPhone, an iPad and possibly a computer as well?    Even with iCloud, the sync issues can drive one nuts. 


Nike mass produces shoes but there is a huge collector base for their Air Jordans.

This is not a category Samsung can drop their prices to steal Apple's sales. This is far diffrent. Android devices are great utility products but known as second rate and disposable. That’s not a trait for a product you will wear on your wrist for all to see. Apple is associated with quality high end devices. They have cultivated this image over decades. It will be the advantage neccesary for a product category that is equal parts fashion and utility. Android has foiled itself for this type of product.

Android Wear from the looks of things seems to be happy and stuck as the Payless Shoes to Apples name brand. Low margin, low quality. No need to wonder what brand people would preffer given the choice. which would be on their Christmas list.
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It would help if the competition can make a profit doing so...

 

Consumers don't care whether Samsung (or any other company) makes a profit.   If they can get a device they consider nearly as good for less money, that can affect whether Apple will be successful in this market for as long as Samsung (or others) are willing to lose money selling a line of products.    

 

Having said that, Apple's track record over many years has been that they can demand higher prices for their products than the competition.   But that ability does erode over time and to my understanding, Apple's Mac sales in the last quarter were pretty poor, although that may have more to do with the consumer market moving away from computers entirely in favor of Pads, etc. 

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But that ability does erode over time and to my understanding, Apple's Mac sales in the last quarter were pretty poor, although that may have more to do with the consumer market moving away from computers entirely in favor of Pads, etc. 

 

It seems your understanding is pretty poor.

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It seems your understanding is pretty poor.

No, it's your understanding that is poor:

 

For the most recent quarter:

Apple's share of the U.S. computer market slipped again during the second quarter of 2014 despite a global trend towards growth in the PC marketplace after tablets like the iPad cannibalized sales. 
 


Source: IDC


According to IDC's preliminary results for the most recent June quarter, Apple continued to bleed marketshare in the U.S. PC industry, ending the three-month period as the only top-five PC vendor to have ceded ground year-to-year.

For the quarter, Apple held 10 percent of the market on shipments of about 1.68 million Macs, down from 10.9 percent in the year ago period. The company's growth shrunk 1.7 percent year-over-year, leaving Apple in fourth place behind HP, Dell and Lenovo. 

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For the most recent quarter:

Apple's share of the U.S. computer market slipped again during the second quarter of 2014....

 

US only. Estimates.... and "Preliminary" estimates at that! Show me Apple's official shipment numbers for Q2. 

 

 

You simply made a mistake with that but this one....

 

despite a global trend towards growth in the PC marketplace after tablets like the iPad cannibalized sales. 

 

... is complete bollocks.

 

Ten consecutive months of falling PC sales as noted by IDC. That is a trend. But it's not growth.

 

 

Look, we'll have to wait a few days for Apple to announce their figures.... but currently, Apple's previous two quarters showed sales increases for Macs. The Mac's global market share is at it's highest since 1994. The installed base has doubled in the last five years.

 

So yes, I stick by my first response. Your understanding of the figures and indeed Apple's business model leaves a lot to be desired.

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Pretty stupid I say!

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I'd love an Apple wearable. I've seen precious few smartwatches that I would want to wear; just a couple posted by Relic and others on another thread. None of these mock ups appeal to me.

The iPhone and iPad are lovely slabs that appeal to all ages and classes. But something you wear? That's such a personal thing. I really can't see some giant screen on your wrist appealing to more than the usual suspects. An inflexible bracelet is a non-starter. All the watch mock ups or Android ones are much too thick. It would have to be no thicker than a slim mechanical watch.

Still haven't seen a compelling reason for it. Mobile payments and a lock for your Apple stuff seem good ones, but it seems too soon for payments. Health and fitness are fluff.
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