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Wonder if this will extend to macs too.
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As for this news! It's awesome! This is huge!:smokey:

 

This news sure makes up for some of the braindead and untrue rumors that have been circulating lately.

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Wow, this is a BIG deal! Apple has already managed to get a very strong foot hold into enterprises by virtue of consumer choice for iOS devices (I still smile a bit at the articles I read several years ago, of CEO's and higher up's demanding their IT guys to work with their iPhones)… but this is going to solidify their position. 

 

And it's incredibly cool how Apple can find common ground with former sworn enemies to competitive advantage: Apple teaming with MS on search, patent licensing, etc, and notably of course, IBM. Hopefully it's not lost on anyone here that long ago, Apple was in for the fight of their life when the Macintosh debuted, and Steve Jobs questioned whether Big Blue would dominate the computer industry. FF 30 years later, now they have a strategic partnership. What could happen next??

 

"Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!" :D

 

I still say a partnership with IBM on their Watson A.I. to bolster (or replace) Siri would make a lot of sense.

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IBM is using Apple to get customers onto their own Bluemix Marketplace. iPads are ok for simple business tasks when you are on the go, but the type of services IBM is offering are far more intense than anything you would want to do sitting at the gate waiting for your flight. 

 

Seriously take a look at their website and tell me if any of the services they are offering are something you would expect people use on an iPad.

 

http://www.ibm.com/cloud-computing/us/en/marketplace.html

 

IBM just wants to leverage the popularity of Apple to steal customers from Accenture, HP, Oracle etc. 

 

I don't see any benefit to Apple. They already own the enterprise mobile market. Plus IBM also supports Android in the Bluemix environment.

 

I disagree.   What I think IBM will want to sell here is the storage, databases and supporting web site platforms (like Websphere) as well as Cloud storage and services to companies who want to use iPad based apps that connect to large enterprise-type systems.  If IBM wants this to compete with HP and Accenture, so what?

 

Also, I'm not so sure one can make the claim that Apple "owns" the enterprise mobile market.   While users have forced many companies to accept the use of iPhones and iPads, I think the deal with IBM gives conservative IT managers the endorsement they need to fully adopt Apple devices and iOS for all employees who need portable devices.    In fact, it might not matter if IBM produces a single app out of this - the benefit of this agreement is probably more psychological, but we'll see tomorrow at the opening bell.   I think this is going to drive up Apple's stock price.    (But I've been surprised before.)   

 

I think this deal could be big for Apple and it's not necessarily one that Jobs could have/would have negotiated, so I give kudos to Cook if he drove this.   It demonstrates how his strengths are very different than Jobs' strengths, but still very valuable to Apple.    It reinforces the notion that Apple's devices are serious business devices (in addition to their appeal to the mass market) and that Android is a mess.   I bet that as this deal comes to fruition, a lot of the marketing is going to be about security.   

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WOW.

This is a BIG deal. iOS already dominates enterprise use (for mobile) over Android, BB and MS. Now they're adding an 800lb gorilla to fill in the gaps and round out their enterprise offerings.

I'm also surprised that IBM is going to exclusively sell iOS devices to their enterprise customers.

it's a lot less than 800 pounds. it's a gorilla air.
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post #46 of 246
IBM wand Apple make a great partnership. What an excellent way to promote Apple in the enterprise. No idea whose idea it was but it's a good one.
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Quite honestly I think Google should be shitting themselves more than Microsoft. Oh and Samsung too. I love it. 1biggrin.gif
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I don't know whether to be cautiously excited or underwhelmed… when I go to IBM's web site all I see (aside from all the icons with broken image links) is a mountain of ambiguspeak about collaboration and cloud and data analysis and other buzzwords that don't mean anything on their own. What kind of workers will be using iPads? What will they be doing with them? Is every workplace a custom project? What about industries using very specific software that runs on Windows? Is this intended to displace Windows terminals and servers?

 

There's not enough information for a sub-average Joe like me to assess what it means.

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I want apple to have WATSON based voice services... Just imagine the possibilites, especially for search, maps, and medical diagnostics.
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I want apple to have WATSON based voice services... Just imagine the possibilites, especially for search, maps, and medical diagnostics.

 

Right. Watson has been "fed" massive amounts of medical information and has apparently already assisted doctors with much improved diagnostics, plus these "expert" systems will either supplement or replace many information-heavy white collar jobs in the future.

 

http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/work.html

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Please, god... don't let there be Lotus Notes on the iPad.

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Please, god... don't let there be Lotus Notes on the iPad.

Nah… but Apple will change their Lightning cables to Token Ring.

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Please, god... don't let there be Lotus Notes on the iPad.

 

It's called IBM Notes now.

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 President and CEO Ginni Rometty agreed, saying current enterprise mobility usually ends at email and calendaring.

Neither IBM nor Apple has a good calendar or email server/client solution, that award goes to either Google or Microsoft. Apple and IBM need to put their heads together and come up with a competing product, some people won't touch a Mac or an iPad with a ten foot pole purely due to the lack of corporate Outlook for Windows.

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post #55 of 246
And you'll see why 1984 won't be like 1984.

Instead 2014 is where we're hoping to be like 1984.
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That sound you hear is Microsoft employees collectively shitting themselves.

 

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post #57 of 246
Well done, Mr Cook.

And now I see the infrastructure and potential for Apple's new retail payment system. Oh, and for purchases in the air... Watson, bring me that drink%u2014you know what I like.
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I'm also surprised that IBM is going to exclusively sell iOS devices to their enterprise customers.

 

What else is out there really?  Can't go with Win Mobile given that this partnership is aiming directly at Microsoft's bread and butter.  Android with it's hell stew of security vulnerabilities?  Besides iOS is already the 600, okay 400 pound gorilla in enterprise mobile.

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"The next big thing is here." Apologies (and sympathies) to Samsung.
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Aside from the tailor-made software, IBM will also offer services like mass device management, security, analytics and mobile integration.

Microsoft's future just snapped into focus for me.  Because now they have something to copy, and not just in terms of OS look-and-feel.  Now Microsoft has an enterprise competitor to mimic.  And if the IBM + Apple partnership is successful, Microsoft is sure to attempt something just like it.

Except for one thing.  Apple is now officially "taken" in the enterprise space.  Who can Microsoft team up with on the mobile hardware side?  Nokia?  Nope.  Already own Nokia.  Plus there's the whole death-spiral thing.  BlackBerry?  Nope.  Death-spiral too.  Oh well.  Microsoft can just write apps for iOS devices, like they already are.  And they can handle the whole enterprise management, analytics, and mobile integration all by themselves.  But, of course, it's too late anyway.  iOS devices already dominate enterprise mobile.  Game over except for the battle for distant second.

We'll see who Satya Nadella lays off.  My guess is that most or all of the hardware division will go (some of Surface, most of Nokia) and maybe some or or all of the Windows Phone and/or Windows RT software division(s) will go.  Best to cut your losses and mimic another successful competitor in your newly refocused market.  And that would be IBM.  They dumped all their hardware long ago, even the CNET-darling ThinkPad line.  (But maybe Microsoft will keep Xbox, just because it's finally breaking even and they can point to it as a "hardware success.")

I agree with some of this but I do see that if Microsoft were to partner with anyone, it would be Apple since Apple has now been blessed by IBM as the doorway into enterprise, If you want to get your apps in front of the c-suits' nose, then it has to be on an iOS device.
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. . . and that would be IBM.  They dumped all their hardware long ago, even the CNET-darling ThinkPad line. 

 

Doesn't Big Blue still make some big iron?

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Cooks memo to employees:

Team,

Today, we announced a groundbreaking new partnership with IBM that will enable enterprises to put the power of big data analytics at their employees‘ fingertips on their iOS device. This exclusive global partnership brings together Apple‘s legendary ease-of-use and integrated hardware and software with IBM’s unmatched industry depth, enterprise software and expertise in big data analytics.

It also builds on the incredible momentum in Apple’s enterprise business. iPhone and iPad can be found in 98% of the Fortune 500. People love to use iOS devices and Apple delivers the things companies need most—security and scalable deployment along with a powerful platform for apps. With this announcement, we’re now putting IBM‘s renowned big data analytics at iOS users‘ fingertips, which opens up a large market opportunity for Apple. This is a radical step for enterprise and something only Apple and IBM can deliver.

IBM is known for helping customers leverage big data and analytics to make their businesses run better. With over 100,000 consultants and sales professionals, they also have massive scale and global reach. IBM‘s sales and consulting teams will also be selling iPad, iPhone and AppleCare for Enterprise as part of the partnership.

This partnership brings together the best of both companies. It’s great news for Apple, IBM and for enterprise customers worldwide and I’m really excited to see it take off.

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I don't know whether to be cautiously excited or underwhelmed… when I go to IBM's web site all I see (aside from all the icons with broken image links) is a mountain of ambiguspeak about collaboration and cloud and data analysis and other buzzwords that don't mean anything on their own. What kind of workers will be using iPads? What will they be doing with them? Is every workplace a custom project? What about industries using very specific software that runs on Windows? Is this intended to displace Windows terminals and servers?

 

There's not enough information for a sub-average Joe like me to assess what it means.

 

Don't worry. If you need IBM's products and services they will find you and come pay you a visit. It seems like every time my company has put something out for tender Oracle, IBM and SAP start camping out at the office.

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Right. Watson has been "fed" massive amounts of medical information and has apparently already assisted doctors with much improved diagnostics, plus these "expert" systems will either supplement or replace many information-heavy white collar jobs in the future.

 

http://www.ibm.com/smarterplanet/us/en/ibmwatson/work.html

It'll be super awesome if Watson were leveraged for the Health app (or something along those lines) in addition to whatever Apple/Mayo clinic have going on and on the AI side with Siri.

 

Cool and even more useful things ahead I hope.

 

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"The next big thing is here." Apologies (and sympathies) to Samsung.

 

Good one!

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I'm also surprised that IBM is going to exclusively sell iOS devices to their enterprise customers.

Where did you read this?

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Loving this news and Tim's response "I agree with eddy" when asked about Apples greatest pipeline which Eddy stated will be the best in decades.

Now Giggle girls all over the nrt are panicking and calling the partnership an act of desperation by Apple. LOL!!

reading the comments on the following article, I didn't know whether to laugh or shake my head:

http://www.cnbc.com/id/101838702?__source=yahoo%7cfinance%7cheadline%7cheadline%7cstory&par=yahoo&doc=101838702
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Given Apple and IBM's relative valuations, I wonder how long before they start to consider either a takeover of IBM or a merger once they've got their heads round Enterprise products and marketing?

 

This will never happen. IBM has a long history of screwing over Apple and NeXT.

 

This is a synergistic relationship to protect IBM from losing out in the mobile space, and thus getting shut out of having a complete solution for their backend services.

 

Apple will be the one dictating the relationship, unlike all the past history of attempted partnerships.

 

It's good for both Apple and IBM.

 

IBM's partnered recently very closely with GlobalFoundries and others to position itself safe on all fronts.

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Did any of these so-called analysts see this coming?

 

When the man said he was doubling down on secrecy, he meant it.

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Dammit ... :wow:

 

The new programming language!

 

Now I get it!

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Where did you read this?

http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/15/technology/ibm-apple/index.html

I can't wait to see how media outlets try to spin this against Apple.

Also I think IBM should hammer a nail into Giggle's coffin by dropping support for droid. XD
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Quite honestly I think Google should be shitting themselves more than Microsoft. Oh and Samsung too. I love it. 1biggrin.gif

Think of it more like a "sideline shitfest."

IBM just did for Apple what they did for MS back in the day. Most of us don't know how powerful IBM is in the bigger business sphere. They've been beating the "Big Date" drum for a while now, and they have the space all to themselves. Microsoft's been asleep all through Ballmer's era and he never saw the buzzards circling...

Samsung's view of the future is too focused on where Apple is/was, not where they're headed. Sammy thinks all they need is a couple of anti-Apple ads to win the game, or a new super-phone every few months. Google aimed too low. Security is too important to enterprise, along with handling hundreds, of not thousands of iDevice updates and deployments. Apple played the long game, like IBM, and that won the battle for enterprise.
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post #72 of 246
Its exciting news as an apple investor for sure. Obviously everyone has been wondering when apple enterprise was coming.

Our work software at hospitals and clinics are on windows and both the software interfaces and the OS/software/browser stability are quite frankly still terrible for whatever reason.

If a cleaner, simpler, secure mac/tablet based IBM setup could bring more "rationality to this space", it can only help further drive enterprise companies to improve to compete (like microsoft).
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Doesn't Big Blue still make some big iron?

 

Yes. In fact, they make a wide variety of servers, including mainframes.

 

Bother IBM and Oracle have been dumping large sums of money expanding their R&D in CPU architectures and server designs.

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Is it just me or is this news HUGE ?
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Okay, I guess it depends on how you read it.

Only IBM is going to sell iOS devices with this stuff (this is what they mean)

or IBM is going to sell only iOS devices with this stuff.

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Is it just me or is this news HUGE ?

 

Too early to tell. We have no idea how it will manifest. It may be nothing more than IBM becoming a reseller of iPads, although even that would be pretty good.

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In other news, Hell Inc announced the opening of a brand new skating ring.

 

Seriously this is beyond big, and on the heels of Microsoft layofs this is striking !

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Seriously this is beyond big

 

Does it improve or diminish my chances of buying a 5.5" iPhone this year? ;)

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Is it just me or is this news HUGE ?


It's huge. I mean HUGE

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Okay, I guess it depends on how you read it.
Only IBM is going to sell iOS devices with this stuff (this is what they mean)
or IBM is going to sell only iOS devices with this stuff.

I agree the article is vague and I'm not the original poster you replied too, I wonder where he got his data from.

Like I posted earlier, I hope IBM drops support for droid. This would allow tighter integration, clear focus and more control. I kinda smell this happening though.
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