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Huge.  Simply huge.

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Too early to tell. We have no idea how it will manifest. It may be nothing more than IBM becoming a reseller of iPads, although even that would be pretty good.

 

From the article over at Re/Code:

 

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The deal calls for IBM and Apple to develop more than 100 industry-specific applications that will run on the iPhone and iPad, including applications for security, analyzing corporate data and managing the devices themselves. Apple will add a new class of service to its AppleCare program and support aimed at enterprise customers. IBM will continue to support other wireless operating systems including Google’s Android.

IBM will also begin to sell iPhones and iPads to its corporate customers and will devote more than 100,000 people, including consultants and software developers, to the effort. Enterprise applications will in many cases run on IBM’s cloud infrastructure or on private clouds that it has built for its customers. Data for those applications will co-exist with personal data like photos and personal email that will run on Apple’s iCloud and other cloud services.

 

I'd say it will be more involved than re-selling iPads.

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I'm afraid the general public's reaction to this news (if they ever hear it) will be: "IBM is still in business? Surely not!"

This will allow the tech media and the usual pundits to portray this as the innovation-challenged Apple tying itself to another dinosaur from the primeval swamp and going under together.

This is probably the biggest news on the Apple front since Steve Jobs' return, but good luck selling that reality to the general-interest press.
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Microsoft is actually up slightly after hours. But Blackberry is down over 4%.

More likely due to the announced layoffs.
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Quite honestly I think Google should be shitting themselves more than Microsoft. Oh and Samsung too. I love it. 1biggrin.gif

Googs could release shitty product after shitty product and WS will reward them.
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Besides, Southwest Airlines bought Surfaces instead of iPads, so Apple is doooooomed! "IBM? Pfffhhtttt!"
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This is great news. Each can focus on their specialty for the enterprise, where Apple will invest on the front end computing while IBM on the back end servers and solutions.
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I'm afraid the general public's reaction to this news (if they ever hear it) will be: "IBM is still in business? Surely not!"
 

 

Sure, that would be their reaction if they, you know, haven't seen a tennis tournament, a golf tournament, the Olympics, the World Cup, or pretty much any major sporting event in the last 25  years.

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forget about Microsoft, SameSong is pissing in his pant right now :) 

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Move over Microsoft, Big Blue is back. 

forget about Microsoft, SameSong is pissing in his pant right now :) 

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Maybe now, Apple will finally have the lion's share of the enterprise market, like Windows of old! It's about time!

The bigger news is that it's not about the Mac in enterprise, but iPads and iPhones. These platforms are already disrupting the workplace, so this is the next logical step. IBM for its part seems interested in partnering with a single leading vendor in enterprise mobile, and it ain't Blackberry or Microsoft or Googs lol.gif

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I'm curious to know who all inside Apple has been involved with this. From what I saw on IBM's website a lot of these applications were co-designed by Apple and IBM. Plus it sounds like some of this stuff will be announced this fall. Maybe we will hear about it at an Apple event announcing an "iPad Pro". Hmm...


Do you have a link to any of the apps? In my initial browse around, I didn't see specific apps. Would like to see what has been done so far.

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There's not enough information for a sub-average Joe like me to assess what it means.

 

The announcement does not mean much to the 'sub-average Joe' because it only directly impacts IBM employees including those who do business within the enterprise space, like myself.

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Be careful what you wish for. I prefer Apple stays the underdog. It keeps them true to SJ's vision.

News flash: Apple isn't an underdog anymore. This ain't 2000.

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post #94 of 247
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Doesn't Big Blue still make some big iron?

 

IBM has never stopped selling hardware.  Since 2006, however, they have shifted to more services-oriented offerings.  That business model has earned IBM and me (plus many others) some good money.

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So when do we expect Samsung to team up with Blackberry? Or Microsoft?

Someone may have beat me to this, but Samsung is teaming up with... Nest.  :-))) I am so looking forward to Samsung creating a copy of the Nest devices then selling them at a cheaper price!

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That sound you hear is Microsoft employees collectively shitting themselves.

 

It's not so bad being Microsoft. They can ride the PC/Windows/IE/Office on their way to obsolescence.

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Mmm ... iBM has a market cap of $195 Billion -- AAPL has cash totaling $147 Billion ...

I remember when Apple went public -- Jobs joked that they would buy IBM and Xerox ...

One could say that he made it possible!
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IBM wand Apple make a great partnership. What an excellent way to promote Apple in the enterprise. No idea whose idea it was but it's a good one.

 

I just hope this is more successful than Taligent, Kaleida and AIM alliance.

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Except for one thing.  Apple is now officially "taken" in the enterprise space.  Who can Microsoft team up with on the mobile hardware side?  Nokia?  Nope.  Already own Nokia.  Plus there's the whole death-spiral thing.  BlackBerry?  Nope.  Death-spiral too.  Oh well.  Microsoft can just write apps for iOS devices, like they already are.  

Microsoft can pair up with Novell and . . .  wait.  Never mind.

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I'm confused. The apps from IBM will be available on the IBM app marketplace? Does that mean IBM gets to create an app store and avoid paying Apple the 30% fee?

That has been true from the beginning. Nothing new here.

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Think of it more like a "sideline shitfest."

IBM just did for Apple what they did for MS back in the day. Most of us don't know how powerful IBM is in the bigger business sphere. They've been beating the "Big Date" drum for a while now, and they have the space all to themselves. Microsoft's been asleep all through Ballmer's era and he never saw the buzzards circling...

Samsung's view of the future is too focused on where Apple is/was, not where they're headed. Sammy thinks all they need is a couple of anti-Apple ads to win the game, or a new super-phone every few months. Google aimed too low. Security is too important to enterprise, along with handling hundreds, of not thousands of iDevice updates and deployments. Apple played the long game, like IBM, and that won the battle for enterprise.

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Did any of these so-called analysts see this coming?

 

When the man said he was doubling down on secrecy, he meant it.

NYT reports Apple and IBM have been "working together on the venture for several months, and they are jointly working on more than 100 business software programs developed exclusively for Apple's iOS operating system."

 

Maybe Eddy Cue wasn't exaggerating when he said the biggest product roll outs in 25 years.  Is Tim Cook setting exciting new directions and putting his stamp on this company or what?  Wonder what we'll be hearing from the Tim-Cook-has-no-vision crowd.

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The announcement does not mean much to the 'sub-average Joe' because it only directly impacts IBM employees including those who do business within the enterprise space, like myself.

IBM then creates consumer version of their enterprise apps. Apple uses enterprise knowledge to add features to iOS

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What has been true? You didn't answer my kuestion. I'm still confused. Pardon my spelling but my K-(Kwerty) key is broken.

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At their first collaborative meeting IBM turned up to the boardroom at 1 Infinite Drive to find welcome pamphlets laid out on the table:

"Welcome, IBM. Seriously."

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Ha! I wonder how many, here, know the origin of that!
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I still say a partnership with IBM on their Watson A.I. to bolster (or replace) Siri would make a lot of sense.

 

You know Watson can only answer you in the form of a question, right? ;) 

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You know Watson can only answer you in the form of a question, right? 1wink.gif  

How could that ever get annoying?¡


PS: I had an issue with Watson on Jeopardy. It was impressive but the human contestants had to firat visually read or listen to the answers before they could process the data whereas as Watson has neither a microphone nor camera. Instead Watson got the answers directly loaded into it. I'd like to see a rematch when Watson can use the same "senses" as the human contestants to play.
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IBM then creates consumer version of their enterprise apps. Apple uses enterprise knowledge to add features to iOS

 

Do you honestly believe the consumer market will want or even care about Maximo, LSF and the ops related tools for SoftLayer and OpenStack? I don't see how the stuff I have used with/for IBM has mass appeal outside the IT enterprise space.

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It's huge. I mean HUGE

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I couldn't be any more disappointed.  Dumping Aperture and joining up with IBM in the same month?  Is this why TBWA had to go? 

 

This will do nothing except tarnish the brand Apple worked so hard for so many years to build. 

 

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Probably not a coincidence that this was announced in the middle of Microsoft's Worldwide Partner Conference http://www.digitalwpc.com/Pages/Home.aspx

 

This will likely be the talk of that conference tomorrow.

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WOW.

This is a BIG deal. iOS already dominates enterprise use (for mobile) over Android, BB and MS. Now they're adding an 800lb gorilla to fill in the gaps and round out their enterprise offerings.

I'm also surprised that IBM is going to exclusively sell iOS devices to their enterprise customers.

I'm curious to know who all inside Apple has been involved with this. From what I saw on IBM's website a lot of these applications were co-designed by Apple and IBM. Plus it sounds like some of this stuff will be announced this fall. Maybe we will hear about it at an Apple event announcing an "iPad Pro". Hmm...

Likely, one of the early extensions to Swift will be a CICS integration.

When I worked at IBM providing maket support for CICS installations ... Some, at the time, said CICS stood for: Consistantly Ignore Customer Satisfaction 1biggrin.gif
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I figured it out: Mac OS/2¡


(not gonna read all the posts so sorry if someone already posted that)

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Nah… but Apple will change their Lightning cables to Token Ring.

I think you forgot the sarcasm tag on that...
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Goodbye, Mr Gates. See if there is a glass shop that could fix your broken windows. You have finally painted yourself into a corner; how sad...
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You mean iBM.


Yes. That's a lowercase "i". 1wink.gif

 

Brilliant gtr! 1smile.gif
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About that pipeline....Now we KNOW that there WILL BE an iPad Pro!

IOS has so much potential I don't think people grasp why more devices would be successful. Given that the biggest issue Apple has to address is included RAM in iOS devices, more RAM will make professional apps that much better and in some cases feasible. More flash wouldn't hurt either.
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I figured it out: Mac OS/2¡


(not gonna read all the posts so sorry if someone already posted that)

 

That's iOS/2 ... LOL

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WOW.

This is a BIG deal. iOS already dominates enterprise use (for mobile) over Android, BB and MS. Now they're adding an 800lb gorilla to fill in the gaps and round out their enterprise offerings.

I'm also surprised that IBM is going to exclusively sell iOS devices to their enterprise customers.

I'm curious to know who all inside Apple has been involved with this. From what I saw on IBM's website a lot of these applications were co-designed by Apple and IBM. Plus it sounds like some of this stuff will be announced this fall. Maybe we will hear about it at an Apple event announcing an "iPad Pro". Hmm...

One of the early extensions to Swift could be a CICS interface!

When I worked for IBM providing technical market support for CICS, some said that CICS (Customer Information and Control System) was, in reality an acronym for Consistently Ignore Customer Satisfaction 1biggrin.gif

Ben Riggins is BALR 13ing in his grave 1biggrin.gif1biggrin.gif
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