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1,800 mAh battery for Apple's 'iPhone 6' purportedly shown off in new photos

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Batteries said to be destined for Apple's next-generation. 4.7-inch "iPhone 6" appeared on the internet Thursday, seemingly lending credence to recent whispers that the company would bump the handset's battery capacity to 1,800 mAh from the iPhone 5s's 1,500 mAh unit.




The pictured parts bear a capacity rating of 1,810 mAh and appear to be manufactured by Desay Battery, a supplier previously rumored to have been certified by Apple for the iPhone 6. French blog nowhereelse.fr was first to publish the snapshots, which appear to come from sources in China.

Not clear from the photos is the batteries' physical dimensions, which is said to have caused a great deal of pain for Apple in the run-up to manufacturing. The company is thought to have had trouble when attempting to slim the parts down by some 30 percent, a reduction reportedly required for the design of Apple's next-generation handsets.

At least one report from earlier this week suggested that Apple may have solved that dilemma, though the company said to have come through with the solution is Taiwan-based Simplo Technology.

If legitimate, the 1,810 mAh battery in the iPhone 6 would give the handset one of the smallest power reserves in its class. Motorola's own 4.7-inch Moto X, in comparison, packs a 2,200 mAh battery.

A corresponding part for the anticipated 5.5-inch "phablet" iPhone variant was not pictured, though that device is expected to sport a 2,500 mAh unit. Both models are likely to bring upgraded internals, possibly including additional
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Somebody on the inside is feeding that French blog exclusives.

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A corresponding part for the anticipated 5.5-inch "phablet" iPhone variant was not pictured, though that device is expected to sport a 2,500 mAh unit.
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Given the larger size this new battery should be good enough to make it till noon if one stays off YouTube.

And I'm sure Apple will brag about having the thinnest phone in its class.
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We all know that iOS devices are more energy efficient than their Android counterparts (leaner OS, custom chip design, etc). So it's not necessarily a bad thing that the battery is smaller. My minivan has a 20 gallon tank and my VW GTI has a 15 gallon tank. Both can go the same distance. It's just that one is a whole lot more fun to drive 1smile.gif
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Somebody on the inside is feeding that French blog exclusives.

Supply chain leaks are notoriously unreliable. The French blog has posted some accurate images before, but they have also posted misses. There's no way to tell until the product comes out.

 

We have ample history on supply chain leaks. There is no single reliable individual for leaking parts; that would likely draw eventual suspicion anyhow. 

 

In this case, there's nothing that directly ties this battery to the next-generation iPhone. It's just a battery. It could easily be destined for a competitor's device.

 

Saying that "somebody on the inside is feeding ___ exclusives" is meaningless when it comes to supply chain rumors because by definition, they are all on the inside. We just don't know which inside and for what product. Even a shot of a running iDevice is highly suspect since iOS screens can be easily faked.

 

Do not take supply chain leaks as a reliable source of information.


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More of the same it seems, oh joy
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Comparing batteries between mobile devices is problematic. Even on a single platform such as Android the same battery capacity leads to various models having quite different runtimes.

Indeed we can't even estimate that there will be a 20% lengthening in battery time overall, as cellular and cpu chipsets become more efficient with each iphone revision we could see more than a 20% leap in standby time. Plus apple have done wonders on the software side with the new efficiencies afforded by swift and metal. The real unknown is the screen, larger screens do draw more power, but there are newer efficiencies and good software strategies for addressing that concern as well.

In short, we can't really say much about the new iPhone's various battery metrics until the battery is in situ.
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Given the larger size this new battery should be good enough to make it till noon if one stays off YouTube.

And I'm sure Apple will brag about having the thinnest phone in its class.

Or three days for people that are employed.

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More of the same it seems, oh joy


What the hell do you do? I'm at 95% capacity with 1 hr 1 min of usage

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This is worrying, there are phones out there which is as slim as the iPhone 6 ( if it is 7mm ) and offers even larger battery capacity. I know it depends on software etc... But purely on technical spec, this doesn't sounds good.

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What the hell do you do? I'm at 95% capacity with 1 hr 1 min of usage

93%, 36 minutes usage, 3:01 hours standby. Low-Moderate cell reception, solid WiFi, Bluetooth enabled. Email, web surfing, maps and traffic and weather...

 

iPhone 5s

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This is worrying, there are phones out there which is as slim as the iPhone 6 ( if it is 7mm ) and offers even larger battery capacity. I know it depends on software etc... But purely on technical spec, this doesn't sounds good.

"Slim" is hardly the only variable: it also depends on the length and height: all components of the volume, which is what the available interior space for components is about.

 

OTOH better, larger, screen, faster processors and overall higher performance at the same, multi-day battery life and I'd be satisfied.

 

ETA: Which other phones are 7 mm thick?

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Given the larger size this new battery should be good enough to make it till noon if one stays off YouTube.

And I'm sure Apple will brag about having the thinnest phone in its class.

 

 

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Or three days for people that are employed.

 

Ouch!

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93%, 36 minutes usage, 3:01 hours standby. Low-Moderate cell reception, solid WiFi, Bluetooth enabled. Email, web surfing, maps and traffic and weather...

 

iPhone 5s

Your handset is clearly defective. Please contact Apple for a replacement.

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Your handset is defective. You should contact Apple for a replacement.

Maybe not. When the cell reception is low the antenna is boosted in the device in an attempt to compensate. This can and will drain a battery much faster. Regardless, worth having checked out if one is or will be bear an Apple Store.

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This is worrying, there are phones out there which is as slim as the iPhone 6 ( if it is 7mm ) and offers even larger battery capacity. I know it depends on software etc... But purely on technical spec, this doesn't sounds good.

 

Purely on tech specs, The Samsung S5 has a fingerprint scanner, just as the iPhone 5s does... do they provide the same experience?

 

As someone else has posted, you cannot compare battery drain without taking into consideration radio signals, which have to "power up" when the signal is weak. If you have Bluetooth, WiFi, and cell radios all on and any one of them is struggling to maintain a connection, then your battery will drain much faster.

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you are on 3G, turn off LTE in settings. The phone is constantly looking for LTE/4G network. But, I think you have a defective phone or, you are playing a 3D game for the whole time. 

 

This is with solid LTE in the area and i use wi-fi when possible.  

I have been using it for Facebook, weather, texting (a lot), web browsing, and I have logged into Clash of Clans at least 5 times today for a few minutes at a time. 

This was charged last night before bed, used as an alarm clock.  I will easily make it another 8 hours doing the same thing I have been doing with it all day long. 

 

BTW that 2 hours 27 minutes is Screen ON time. Not simply 2 hours 27 minutes since it was pulled off the charger. 


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yet another reason to get the 5.5" model.
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Originally Posted by toysandme View Post
Given the larger size this new battery should be good enough to make it till noon if one stays off YouTube.
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More of the same it seems, oh joy

 

Stop the FUD; I want to get off.

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Apple may yet surprise us, but I cannot think of a single new feature other than significantly enhanced battery life that will get me interested in buying a 6. And I do mean significantly enhanced. Bigger screen size is welcome, but first and foremost I want to be able to use the bloody thing. I was really hopeful that Apple would respond to this problem.

The fashion for thinness over practicality is preposterous - any thinner than the current 5 and the typical headphone jack will be thicker than the phone, for **** sake.

Now of course, if they can pull it off and the battery life is up by at least 30 per cent -and sustained for the duration of a two year contract - then all well and good.

But alas, the continuing 'coolness' factor provided by thinness is also a wonderful tool in disguising the built-in obsolescence necessary to sustain a two-year upgrade cycle.
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I was really hopeful that Apple would respond to this problem. ...built-in obsolescence...

 

Thanks for the FUD.

 
...any thinner than the current 5 and the typical headphone jack will be thicker than the phone, for **** sake.

 

http://appleinsider.com/articles/14/06/06/lightning-enabled-headphones-could-let-apple-ditch-the-headphone-jack-on-future-iphones

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Unfortuantely people think that is a big conspiracy now that they own Beats.

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Unfortunately people think that is a big conspiracy now that they own Beats.

 

Huh; I hadn’t thought of that. I don’t know why they’d be stupid enough to think it was a good idea for Apple to artificially limit its headphone user base by requiring Lightning to Lightning (or Lightning to USB) cables, but whatever.

 

Heck, if Lightning to Lightning can make for better quality, I’m for it. Throw a Lightning port on each Mac in place of 3.5mm, too. I have a Harmon/Kardon set that uses 2.5-3.5; you don’t see anyone complaining about that.

 

If Thunderbolt 3 is thin enough, a single Lightning port on each Mac to supplement three Thunderbolt and do what USB can’t might be a good idea if they want to keep making the computers thinner.

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Your handset is clearly defective. Please contact Apple for a replacement.

 

 

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Maybe not. When the cell reception is low the antenna is boosted in the device in an attempt to compensate. This can and will drain a battery much faster. Regardless, worth having checked out if one is or will be bear an Apple Store.

My iP5's battery has a problem where it will drop from 30% to 7% and then shut down the phone all in a course of 3 minutes. When I first brought it to the Apple store, a genius performed a test on it and they said the battery was failing and I need a new one. At that time I was three months out of warranty and they told me they could replace the battery for $80. Even when I complained about only being 3 months out of warranty they said corporate were being pretty hard-nosed about it so they couldn't budge. Now I need to charge at least 3 times a day to get me through to the next release in a few months. Every time I plug in to charge, it really bugs me that they wouldn't budge. Their policies certainly have become less liberal with things like this.

 

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A 4.7 inch screen with a 1,800 mAh battery will really give Apple an opportunity to let their OS efficiency shine in terms of battery usage. My current phone is 2 years old and has similar specs and the battery lasts a full day with normal usage. It's running Android 4.3 and at the end of the day I have 20-30% battery left. It'll be interesting to see how iOS does in comparison.
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"... the battery lasts a full day with normal usage."

 

"Normal" usage is extremely subjective in when speaking about mobile smartphones.

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My iP5's battery has a problem where it will drop from 30% to 7% and then shut down the phone all in a course of 3 minutes. When I first brought it to the Apple store, a genius performed a test on it they said the battery was failing and I need a new one. At that time I was three months out of warranty and they told me they could replace the battery for $80. Even when I complained about only being 3 months out of warranty they said corporate were being pretty hard-nosed about it so they couldn't budge. Now I need to charge at least 3 times a day to get me through to the next release in a few months. Every time I plug in to charge, it really bugs me that they wouldn't budge. Their policies certainly have become less liberal with things like this.

That seems wrong to me. A defective battery with relatively few full charges should not fall under the standard "bumper-to-bumper" warranty. I would try again and explain the issue as well as look irritated, be a little louder than normal and use aggravated hand gestures while also trying to get them to empathizes with you. Also, you may want to not wear nice clothes when you go in. 1biggrin.gif

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That seems wrong to me. The battery should not fall under the standard "bumper-to-bumper" warranty. I would try again and explain the issue as well as look irritated, be a little louder than normal and use aggravated hand gestures while also trying to get them to empathizes with you. Also, you may want to not wear nice clothes when you go in. 1biggrin.gif

 

LOL, I always dress like a slob and I had a rather heated exchange that even attracted another Genius to join in. At this point in time, almost 8 months out of warranty, I doubt they would be more likely to budge with a new release being so near in the future.

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LOL, I always dress like a slob and I had a rather heated exchange that even attracted another Genius to join in. At this point in time, almost 8 months out of warranty, I doubt they would be more likely to budge with a new release being so near in the future.

Next time, on the day you buy it put in a Calendar reminder a year from then, minus a few weeks so you can analyze the device before the warranty is up. I will do the same after your story of their consumer-unfriendly policy change.

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More of the same it seems, oh joy

 

Please purchase a Samdung S5 and report your results in a month.

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Apple may yet surprise us, but I cannot think of a single new feature other than significantly enhanced battery life that will get me interested in buying a 6. And I do mean significantly enhanced. Bigger screen size is welcome, but first and foremost I want to be able to use the bloody thing. I was really hopeful that Apple would respond to this problem.

The fashion for thinness over practicality is preposterous - any thinner than the current 5 and the typical headphone jack will be thicker than the phone, for **** sake.

Now of course, if they can pull it off and the battery life is up by at least 30 per cent -and sustained for the duration of a two year contract - then all well and good.

But alas, the continuing 'coolness' factor provided by thinness is also a wonderful tool in disguising the built-in obsolescence necessary to sustain a two-year upgrade cycle.

 

Then buy a battery case.

 

The 6 will be so think that even if a battery case it will be thinner/lighter than most phones.

 

But for the rest of us normal humans we'd rather pack a lighter phone since we are not watching Youtube all day

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My iP5's battery has a problem where it will drop from 30% to 7% and then shut down the phone all in a course of 3 minutes. When I first brought it to the Apple store, a genius performed a test on it and they said the battery was failing and I need a new one. At that time I was three months out of warranty and they told me they could replace the battery for $80. Even when I complained about only being 3 months out of warranty they said corporate were being pretty hard-nosed about it so they couldn't budge. Now I need to charge at least 3 times a day to get me through to the next release in a few months. Every time I plug in to charge, it really bugs me that they wouldn't budge. Their policies certainly have become less liberal with things like this.

 

Edited to add a word, making a sentence make sense.

 

Just pay the $80 for  new battery.

 

If $80 is such a hardship you should have purchased an Android.  Batteries die.  It happens.  Deal with it

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"Normal" usage is extremely subjective in when speaking about mobile smartphones.
You're right, but there will still be countless battery tests performed to see how their new setup compares to the competition. That will be Apple's time to shine, not by some forum posters' anecdotal experience. People have long claimed (and rightly so) that comparing an iPhone to an Android phone in terms of battery is not comparing apples to apples. Android phones usually have larger screens and larger batteries. If the rumors are to be believed, the gap will narrow significantly this Fall.
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Next time, on the day you buy it put in a Calendar reminder a year from then, minus a few weeks so you can analyze the device before the warranty is up. I will do the same after your story of their consumer-unfriendly policy change.

Funny, that is exactly what the Genius told me. He said to come in and have the phone benchmarked a few weeks before the warranty expires so if there is an issue after the warranty expires, they have a record of it. If, after a year of use, the battery shows signs of less capacity than normal, they would replace it.......no matter when it fails, no questions asked.

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Next time, on the day you buy it put in a Calendar reminder a year from then, minus a few weeks so you can analyze the device before the warranty is up. I will do the same after your story of their consumer-unfriendly policy change.

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Just pay the $80 for  new battery.

 

If $80 is such a hardship you should have purchased an Android.  Batteries die.  It happens.  Deal with it

Apple ][, is that you? No? Great, another one who categorizes Android users as cheap, low income dregs of society. :no:

 

My battery has only gotten this bad a few weeks ago. The reason why I went in to see a Genius was because my battery started showing signs that it was not quite right, but, at the time, it wasn't a huge issue because it still had pretty good capacity. My complaint is based on principle, not because I'm too cheap to buy a replacement battery. If my battery was showing signs of going bad only 3 months out of warranty, then it makes sense that it was a little wonky to begin with and I feel they should've been a little more empathetic, like I'm used to them being. My point is the liberal replacement policy that once made Apple stand out from the crowd and gave them such high satisfaction ratings is showing signs of going away. Now it's almost necessary to buy AppleCare for this very reason. Maybe that's Apple's grand plan. As a sizable AAPL shareholder (yes, I can certainly afford the 80 bucks) I'm kind of on the fence about that. AppleCare contracts add to Apple's bottom line in a big way but my big-picture thinking believes tremendous customer satisfaction keeps customers coming back....which sells a lot more phones. 

 

If I feel there was clearly a problem with my hardware, I'm not going to roll over and kick out $80 without a fight. I haven't amassed my wealth by pissing away my money; rather, quite the contrary. I made the decision not to waste $80 on my phone a couple of months before I upgrade because it's really not a big deal to have my phone plugged in while sitting at my desk or in my car. If you want to piss away your money like that, knock yourself out.

 

BTW, your short, harsh, nonconstructive answer made you sound like a really...nice...guy. :rolleyes: 

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I always buy Apple care +

I didn't even think of that. I do, too, but that's mostly for insurance against accidental damage. Although it's definitely as good of a deal as it was before I'm sure I'll still buy it.

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Your handset is clearly defective. Please contact Apple for a replacement.

That works out to 8.57 hours of use, 7% consumed at 36 minutes of usage... So I appreciate the sarcasm.

 

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This is worrying, there are phones out there which is as slim as the iPhone 6 ( if it is 7mm ) and offers even larger battery capacity. I know it depends on software etc... But purely on technical spec, this doesn't sounds good.

 

Neither does your use of the english language but that still tells me nothing more than one spec. Specs are meaningless, performance counts & we won't know that until it is real.

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