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Rumor: Rear shell for 4.7" 'iPhone 6' shown with inlaid Apple logo in new photos

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Yet another rear shell for Apple's next-generation iPhone has purportedly been outed by sources in the company's Far East supply chain, with the latest set of photos showing a more refined unit complete with an iPad-like inlaid Apple logo.




The part appears to be at a later stage of manufacturing than those shown in previous leaks, with a smoother appearance. Utility comparison site uSwitch was first to publish the images.

The reason behind Apple's supposed move to an inlaid logo is not immediately clear, though some have speculated that it could be designed to allow the logo to light up -- similar to the company's MacBook line -- to notify users when a call or message comes in. The more likely explanation, however, is that the opening would be used for signals from one of the device's many antennae.

Another possible explanation is the widely-rumored inclusion of NFC in the so-called "iPhone 6," possibly coinciding with the introduction of an iTunes-backed mobile payment system. Placing an NFC antenna behind the Apple logo could be convenient for tap-and-go purchases.

Apple is widely expected to offer the iPhone 6 in two versions -- one with a 4.7-inch display and a larger, 5.5-inch "phablet" variant. Other features rumored to be in the offing are a new, 128-gigabyte capacity version, optical image stabilization, and a faster "A8" CPU.
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How about all of the above?
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I hope they don't axe the current form factor. Many people prefer a smaller phone. Especially those of us who carry iPads for large screen functionality.
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Originally Posted by leesmith View Post
How about all of the above?

 

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Interesting. I see the white plastic dividers in the outer edge but I do not see any place for glass inserts on the back.

 

Hard to tell but the power switch does look like it is on the side

 

The edges of the case do not look rounded like in the mock-ups

 

The inner surface looks incredibly smooth. Could it be…?

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Every other iPhone they've made has had serious milling marks on the inside of the back. This one is clearly a forged or stamped piece instead. Why the difference all of a sudden? A December 2013 patent described making liquidmetal in float forges like glass is made so that it comes off the line in large flat thin sheets ready for stamping...
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How about all of the above?

It would be unprecedented for all of the items in a highly speculative Apple rumor post to end up being true.

 

The odds do not favor such an outcome.

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Apple isn’t Samsung.

You get points for accuracy, but none for relevance to my comment.

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Originally Posted by leesmith View Post
You get points for accuracy, but none for relevance to my comment.

 

“Apple doesn’t throw a bunch of useless crap into their devices just because they CAN have a bunch of useless crap in their devices. What they put in their devices is given purpose, utility, and integration with the rest of the content thereon. Samsung is incapable of creating a product of that sort, as evidenced by generations of garbage, overloaded with things its users never use, for the sole purpose of increasing the length of their spec sheet.”

 

In the future, understand the three word version as the above. :p 

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It would be unprecedented for all of the items in a highly speculative Apple rumor post to end up being true.

 

The odds do not favor such an outcome.

No reason why there can't be multiple purposes for the cut-out, but you're probably right about ALL of them.

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I wish the noise about a 5.5" version would stop until such time that we actually see even a single part leak that would support an iPhone in that size.  So far, the rumor is very weak.

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Every other iPhone they've made has had serious milling marks on the inside of the back. This one is clearly a forged or stamped piece instead. Why the difference all of a sudden? A December 2013 patent described making liquidmetal in float forges like glass is made so that it comes off the line in large flat thin sheets ready for stamping...

Shogun,

I noticed that too. Maybe this is the year Liquidmetal is finally going to be utilized in an iPhone chassis!
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I read in a Mongolian news paper that the iPhone 7 will have no back and will be made of sapphire and readable from either side. Also the screen will be 6.75 inches and Santa will return in Christmas of 2020....


WhooooHooooo
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I'd like to go back in time and "discourage" whoever coined the term "phablet" from doing so.  It's such a bad term to refer to "large smartphone."  If anything it should refer to tablets with street cred (phat tablets) or perhaps ironically fashionable tablets (fabulous tablets).  Or how about we just stop using the term all together?  Thanks in advance.

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I'm thinking die casting! That might be a sign that the so called Liquid Metal is being used.

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Every other iPhone they've made has had serious milling marks on the inside of the back. This one is clearly a forged or stamped piece instead. Why the difference all of a sudden? A December 2013 patent described making liquidmetal in float forges like glass is made so that it comes off the line in large flat thin sheets ready for stamping...

Stamping wouldn't give you the screw mounting locations common to iPhone designs and seen in these pictures.
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Ummmm.... Backside pic? Why wouldn't they show that?
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I wish the noise about a 5.5" version would stop until such time that we actually see even a single part leak that would support an iPhone in that size.  So far, the rumor is very weak.

AppleInsider will keep the expectation alive, so that Apple can "disappoint" fandroids who claim to want one.
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AppleInsider will keep the expectation alive, so that Apple can "disappoint" fandroids who claim to want one.
It's an important function of the rumor mill to keep rumors alive without evidence. 1smile.gif

Fandroid response? "No 5.5" iPhone? I won't buy. Sorry, Apple, you just lost another customer." Samsung rulez!
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Shogun,

I noticed that too. Maybe this is the year Liquidmetal is finally going to be utilized in an iPhone chassis!

It could be a common zinc or aluminum die casting. Zinc can do really interesting thin wall sections but it is a heavy metal.

I spent the first few years of my work life in the zinc die casting industry and seen some really amazing things cast with that material. It is also highly recyclable. The problem is it is heavy compared to aluminum. There are also zinc and aluminum alloys out there. The problem with most aluminum die casting allows is that you can't do the thin cross sections well. At least not back in my youth with the aluminum allows available at the time. This is why I'm wondering about Liquid Metal.

A die casting would still require post molding machining to tap holes and the like. However that CNC work would be far less than milling a phone from a plate of aluminum. Apple could make use of self tapping screws and other fastening methods to reduce CNC machining even further.

Die casting was an interesting business, too bad much of that business went to China.
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Well I've been hoping big for Johnathan Ive to and that design with the feature so lets hope there's a light up Apple logo, the chasy is still suspicious to me because of the side button. I like it on top.
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Ummmm.... Backside pic? Why wouldn't they show that?

It was published, but because of the flack received by the site who showed it, AppleInsider opted not to contribute to that hrang-a-thon. But to add fuel to that fire, here is the "Fugly Jock Strap" rear view.



As has been suggested elsewhere on the blogosphere this is possibly one of those Chinese knockoffs that appeared in the Rumor Arena last week.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post
The part appears to be at a later stage of manufacturing than those shown in previous leaks, with a smoother appearance.


The old (possibly fake) part looked like it was machined from a billet of aluminum, just like the 5/5S.

The newer (also possibly fake) part looks like it was either stamped out of a sheet or extruded into a  mold.

Which could indicate that it is made from Liquidmetal (if it's real).

 

Yes, Liquidmetal is more expensive than aluminum (at least the platinum alloy Liquidmetal.)

But hey, I'd gladly pay a little more for a nearly scratch-proof shell.  No need for a case ever again.

 

Liquidmetal might mean fewer steps in the construction of the shell, and most importantly, less time per shell.

Because grinding out most of the material from a billet probably takes far longer than injection molding.

Time is money in manufacturing, so the time saved could offset the higher material cost (somewhat).

 

And recycling Liquidmetal could, in theory, require far less heat energy.  It never crystallizes like most metals.

So it can be heated to a putty-like consistency and molded like plastic.  No need to melt it down to a liquid.

Also, there isn't a massive pile of aluminum shavings to melt down and re-use for the next batch of shells. 

 

Not sure how many iPhones Apple recycles on trade-ins, but that would be the way to recycle Liquidmetal.

Interesting.


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It was published, but because of the flack received by the site who showed it, AppleInsider opted not to contribute to that hrang-a-thon. But to add fuel to that fire, here is the "Fugly Jock Strap" rear view.



As has been suggested elsewhere on the blogosphere this is possibly one of those Chinese knockoffs that appeared in the Rumor Arena last week.

Love those white bands. It's not mistakable with any other phone on the market from 40 ft away. Don't put the case on...it defeats the purpose...:). When I look at these bands, they appear to be stick-on protective bands which you'll peel off when use. No way in hell that Apple would design a protrude antenna that way.


Edited by fallenjt - 7/21/14 at 10:43am
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That version does not have the white inlaid logo, so perhaps that is an older design.

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Wow these Chinese iphone 6 clones look really nice on the inside lol.gif

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I'm thinking die casting! That might be a sign that the so called Liquid Metal is being used.
Stamping wouldn't give you the screw mounting locations common to iPhone designs and seen in these pictures.

It looks like the screw bosses have threaded inserts pressed into them. Internally threaded, that is. Is that a new thing? Do the aluminum cases also use inserts?
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It looks like the screw bosses have threaded inserts pressed into them. Internally threaded, that is. Is that a new thing? Do the aluminum cases also use inserts?

Not sure but it looks perhaps some, but not all.

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Not sure but it looks perhaps some, but not all.

Thanks. So the more I look at this new "iP6" part, the more it looks cast, not stamped.

I'm sure that would be obvious to anyone familiar with type of stuff, but at first I thought no way do you cast anything this thin with normal metal, and have it come out this clean. But then on the other hand it's too thick around the screw inserts to be stamped. So a new molding process and a new metal alloy is an attractive explanation.

Too soon to break out the cigars, but still . . .
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I'm sure that would be obvious to anyone familiar with type of stuff, but at first I thought no way do you cast anything this thin with normal metal, and have it come out this clean. But then on the other hand it's too thick around the screw inserts to be stamped. So a new molding process and a new metal alloy is an attractive explanation.

Too soon to break out the cigars, but still . . .

I'm trying to find other significant differences. One I spotted is the side screws used to mount the side switches. On the 5s the holes are really shallow, but on the new part they have been beefed up and the actual sides of the case look thinner as well. Not sure what that means but I'm pretty excited. Can't wait. I have a feeling I'm going to logged into Apple.com at midnight one day soon.

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Where is the 5.5" iPhone6? It looks like the new 4.7" iPhone 6 will still be smaller than most of the competition. Most people around the world want something 5" or larger.
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Where is the 5.5" iPhone6? It looks like the new 4.7" iPhone 6 will still be smaller than most of the competition. Most people around the world want something 5" or larger.

Where is the 5" or larger phone that has a decent operating system, a decent power-efficient processor, a decent ecosystem, a physically beautiful body, and so on?

Apple doesn't crank half-baked stuff out like nearly all the other companies, which are fast and technically competent, by the way, but not deliberate and perfectionist like Apple is in general. The larger Apple phones have been waiting for processor evolution and for display production expansion. Just wait. You will see. Well, maybe even you will see, I should say.
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It was published, but because of the flack received by the site who showed it, AppleInsider opted not to contribute to that hrang-a-thon. But to add fuel to that fire, here is the "Fugly Jock Strap" rear view.



As has been suggested elsewhere on the blogosphere this is possibly one of those Chinese knockoffs that appeared in the Rumor Arena last week.
Thanks for the post. I did click the link and saw that the original site of the rumor posted it as well. I'll agree that "jock strap" look seems a bit off from apple..but then again I have this feeling with all the rumor pics, even the ones that turn out to be true. Apple seems to add a magical sheen to their products once it they finally release it. Sure, all the artistic photographs they take of it help and to hold it in person makes a big difference.
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I'm trying to find other significant differences. One I spotted is the side screws used to mount the side switches. On the 5s the holes are really shallow, but on the new part they have been beefed up and the actual sides of the case look thinner as well. Not sure what that means but I'm pretty excited. Can't wait. I have a feeling I'm going to logged into Apple.com at midnight one day soon.

Another little difference: the inserts in the new part are some kind of yellow metal, compared the the grey metal inserts in the older part. Suggesting new requirements in metal compatabilities.
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I hope they don't axe the current form factor. Many people prefer a smaller phone. Especially those of us who carry iPads for large screen functionality.
I hope that this 4.7 inch iPhone is true, and there is no other model this year as even 4.7 inch is a bit big for some users.

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I wish the noise about a 5.5" version would stop until such time that we actually see even a single part leak that would support an iPhone in that size.  So far, the rumor is very weak.
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It was published, but because of the flack received by the site who showed it, AppleInsider opted not to contribute to that hrang-a-thon. But to add fuel to that fire, here is the "Fugly Jock Strap" rear view.



As has been suggested elsewhere on the blogosphere this is possibly one of those Chinese knockoffs that appeared in the Rumor Arena last week.

The poor junkyard dogs at MacRumors couldn't get past those white bands. Only one poster, shinyafro, took notice of the difference in the surface of the new part.
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Where is the 5" or larger phone that has a decent operating system, a decent power-efficient processor, a decent ecosystem, a physically beautiful body, and so on?

Apple doesn't crank half-baked stuff out like nearly all the other companies, which are fast and technically competent, by the way, but not deliberate and perfectionist like Apple is in general. The larger Apple phones have been waiting for processor evolution and for display production expansion. Just wait. You will see. Well, maybe even you will see, I should say.

 

Apple claimed that there is no need for larger screen phones. All the Apple fans agreed that there is no need for them, not because of processor evolution or display production expansion. Now Apple is saying something totally different, and that there is afterall a need for larger screen phones, after losing market share, and therefore will release a 4.7" screen phone.

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Apple claimed that there is no need for larger screen phones. All the Apple fanatics agreed that there is no need for them, not because of processor evolution or display production expansion. Now Apple is saying something totally different, and that there is afterall a need for larger screen phones, after losing market share, and therefore will release a 4.7" screen phone.

Apple, or Tim Cook, never said there is no need for larger screen phones. He said they could not do a larger screen without making unacceptable tradeoffs. That was about two years ago. At that time, there was not enough LTPS screen manufacturing to supply Apple, nor was there the A7 or A8 that they're going to need for the higher density screens they will be presumably coming out with.

In the meantime, he pointed out the obvious advantage of the current sizes—perfect for one-handed use. In other words, we're not going to cut corners to make larger screens right now, so enjoy what we think is the ideal size under the current circumstances. He also said he would not rule out making larger screens in the future when the technology was right—words to that effect.

Why do you want to make stuff up like you just did?
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Originally Posted by peter236 View Post
Apple claimed that there is no need for larger screen phones. All the Apple fans agreed that there is no need for them, not because of processor evolution or display production expansion. Now Apple is saying something totally different, and that there is afterall a need for larger screen phones, after losing market share, and therefore will release a 4.7" screen phone.


Why do people still spew this nonsense? Apple has only ever gained marketshare, by the way. Learn what numbers are.

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