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Rumor: Production for new iPad mini, iPad Air, & 5.5" 'iPhone 6' pushed to Sept.

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A Friday morning rumor out of the Far East suggests that only one of Apple's next-generation handsets -- the 4.7-inch "iPhone 6" -- will be ready for launch at the company's anticipated September media event, as the larger 5.5-inch model will allegedly not even enter production until that month.

"iPhone 6" and "iPhone 6c" concepts by Martin Hajek.


This marks the latest in a string of reports that Apple will delay the launch of its rumored jumbo-sized iPhone until after its 4.7-inch sibling bows, though the latest report on Friday offers no explanation for the timing. The report comes from Taiwanese newspaper UDN and was first noted by GforGames.

Further, the paper suggests that initial production capacity will be limited. Capacity is expected to increase by as much as 85 percent in the fourth quarter, perhaps due to the addition of so-called "Foxbots," robots designed to aid assembly workers.

Apple is widely seen as continuing to split its iPhone lineup into two models for the future, increasing the display sizes to 4.7 and 5.5 inches and adding a new "A8" processor. The company could also choose to cover the display with sapphire, rather than Corning's Gorilla Glass, though the likelihood of such a move is hotly debated.

Relatively little is known about the next-generation iPad Air and iPad mini with Retina display, though both tablets are also expected to benefit from Apple's new silicon. In addition, is it widely believed that Apple will bring the Touch ID fingerprint sensor introduced with the iPhone 5s to the tablet lineup.
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Yay.. the nonexistent product, that never had any real leaks is conveniently now indefinitely delayed! ... now.. watch as they smoothly transition this fake report in the next month over from delayed for a few months to delayed to fall of next year so they have a fake thing to report for all of 2015!!! YES!

The plan is working! It's the Signified paradox of a report about nothing!

UPDATE.. oh.. and why does the title say the iPad air and min too, when the article/blog/sci-fiy writing says nothing about their being a delay about those? Good click bait title?

I now rate bloggers in the category at or below of a car salesman.. lies are just as good as truth these days as long as you don't fact check.
Edited by Adrayven - 7/25/14 at 6:18am
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What about the Mac Mini?

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I like the iPad Pro rumor and then how the analyst mourned when the rumored product was rumored to have been canceled.

A rumor of a rumor must be true!
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What about the Mac Mini?


Depends on

1. Are they waiting for Broadwell?

2. If so, can Apple get first access to any Broadwell chips off the line?

 

Given that the Air and the Mac Pro are their two best selling computers, it would make sense to see the MBA get the new chips first, but it is true that the Mini is getting long in tooth and a lot of devs would appreciate an update.

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post #6 of 53
Yaaaaaaaaaaawaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawn!

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rumor just in time to drive price down for Friday OPEX. LOL.

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Can Apple rumor sites PLEASE stop reporting every time some Asian news source reports an unnamed product is in production or is going to be delayed. PLEASE. We seem to get these reports every week and often times they contradict each other which just proves how not credible they are. 1oyvey.gif
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But the "well-connected" Kuo said we'd get an iPad update in July/August. 1rolleyes.gif

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rumor just in time to drive price down for Friday OPEX. LOL.

Well, it's not working. AAPL is currently up +0.28% in an overall slightly bearish trading day.

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Please standby as the rumor mill adjusts their questionable "knowledge" of Apple's internal plans...

"Apple should pull the plug on the iPhone."

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Can Apple rumor sites PLEASE stop reporting every time some Asian news source reports an unnamed product is in production or is going to be delayed. PLEASE. We seem to get these reports every week and often times they contradict each other which just proves how not credible they are. 1oyvey.gif

AppleInsider doesn't care about credibility. They worship the Almighty Pageview. That's all that matters to tech rumor sites.

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Well, it's not working. AAPL is currently up +0.28% in an overall slightly bearish trading day.

Just take a look at AMZN if you want to have a good laugh this morning.

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But the "well-connected" Kuo said we'd get an iPad update in July/August. 1rolleyes.gif

Kuo is "well connected" ...to AppleInsider! lol.gif

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Just take a look at AMZN if you want to have a good laugh this morning.

You mean The Street finally decided to call them on their "but but but we're investing on behalf of the customers just you wait" BS?

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Apple may launch 4.7 inch phone with Sapphire display in September and bigger 5.5 inch phone with regular Gorilla Glass display ready for Christmas, both likely to be priced the same. Just guessing.
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This site seems to be fast becoming just pure nonsense... Or is it just now that I am noticing...
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Just take a look at AMZN if you want to have a good laugh this morning.

Too bad for them.

 

However, that's not as bad as Pandora Media (NYSE:P) or worse Brightcove (Nasdaq:BCOV). They are getting slaughtered, -36.81% today.

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This site seems to be fast becoming just pure nonsense... Or is it just now that I am noticing...

You are just noticing.

 

If Digitimes claimed that the next Apple product was going to be a pink iUnicorn that farts rainbows, all the tech rumor sites would report it including AppleInsider.

 

The plausibility of any given claim is completely irrelevant to tech rumor sites.

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AppleInsider doesn't care about credibility. They worship the Almighty Pageview. That's all that matters to tech rumor sites.
I wish there was one rumor site that would be bold and not be beholden to the almighty page views.
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What about the Mac Mini?

The 5.5" Mac Mini has purportedly been delayed due to unforeseen manufacturing issues in getting a 5.5" plastic bit for the bottom, according to unnamed sources from the far east who are familiar with Apple's plans.
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Just take a look at AMZN if you want to have a good laugh this morning.
Amazon wants to be known as a tech company, not a retailer. Can someone explain why other tech companies like Apple, Google, Microsoft, Intel,, Samsung, etc. can spend billions on R&D and capex but still generate profits and Amazon can't? I have a hard time believing Amazon's capex spending is larger than these other big tech companies so where's the profit? Amazon bulls claim their core services are profitable. If that was the case shouldn't we be seeing profits even with Amazon's so-called "investing in these business"?
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Just take a look at AMZN if you want to have a good laugh this morning.

-11% for those who are wondering! like I was.

Thanks SpamSandwich
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I wish there was one rumor site that would be bold and not be beholden to the almighty page views.

I suppose if they moved to a paid subscriber model one might see less sensational headlines and phony analyst-driven coverage.

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Does anyone else just hope the 5.5 doesn't exist?

I know it will be viewed as a very subjective opinion but that screen size just seems so impractical to me. Apple has always been about looking out for the user which in some cases means giving them what they need not what they want. I'm really hoping they never submit to the 5.5" size. We have tablet for that reason and with wifi calling if you really want to take a call with a behemoth device you can.

5.5" dimension doesn't fit in your pocket well. I'd say maybe 30% of the world even has hands large enough to utilize the screenspace comfortably. It essentially requires a two handed use, unless you are in that 30% who have hands large enough to justify the size.

I know some people really crave it, I just think it's a foolish, unquantified request. That being said I'd just love to hear arguments for and practical use cases if anyone cares to share them.
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I like the iPad Pro rumor and then how the analyst mourned when the rumored product was rumored to have been canceled.

A rumor of a rumor must be true!

If it's on the internets it must be true! /s
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I wish there was one rumor site that would be bold and not be beholden to the almighty page views.

When you find it, please let us know. Thanks!

 

:D

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Does anyone else just hope the 5.5 doesn't exist?

I know it will be viewed as a very subjective opinion but that screen size just seems so impractical to me. Apple has always been about looking out for the user which in some cases means giving them what they need not what they want. I'm really hoping they never submit to the 5.5" size. We have tablet for that reason and with wifi calling if you really want to take a call with a behemoth device you can.

5.5" dimension doesn't fit in your pocket well. I'd say maybe 30% of the world even has hands large enough to utilize the screenspace comfortably. It essentially requires a two handed use, unless you are in that 30% who have hands large enough to justify the size.

I know some people really crave it, I just think it's a foolish, unquantified request. That being said I'd just love to hear arguments for and practical use cases if anyone cares to share them.

I agree with you wholeheartedly. If the rumor about this form factor is true, I worry that the 5.5" may have some features that the 4.7" lacks.

 

I truly hope Apple does not do something like that. That would be very disappointing.

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... lies are just as good as truth these days as long as you don't fact check.

 

Oh come on! If anyone could actually "fact check" then these wouldn't be called "rumors", would they?  So this complaint is rather nonsensical.

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I wish there was one rumor site that would be bold and not be beholden to the almighty page views.

It's called Facebook.

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Originally Posted by Jonathandsimmons View Post

Does anyone else just hope the 5.5 doesn't exist?

I know it will be viewed as a very subjective opinion but that screen size just seems so impractical to me. Apple has always been about looking out for the user which in some cases means giving them what they need not what they want. I'm really hoping they never submit to the 5.5" size. We have tablet for that reason and with wifi calling if you really want to take a call with a behemoth device you can.

5.5" dimension doesn't fit in your pocket well. I'd say maybe 30% of the world even has hands large enough to utilize the screenspace comfortably. It essentially requires a two handed use, unless you are in that 30% who have hands large enough to justify the size.

I know some people really crave it, I just think it's a foolish, unquantified request. That being said I'd just love to hear arguments for and practical use cases if anyone cares to share them.

Well, the main reason for the nonexistence would be Apple's strong tendency not to proliferate too many sizes of a particular product.

 

Particularly for iDevices, multiple sizes, aspect ratios, and screen resolutions makes app programming more challenging. This is less of an issue with OS X applications which have resizable windows.

 

I know there are practical use cases for a 5.5" handset, just like there are practical use cases for a 17" notebook, 14" tablet, or a small mini-tower Mac with a user upgradeable graphics card. However, just because there are use cases does not mean Apple necessarily needs to create products to fulfill those desires.

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Between 5S and 5C, which line will be (likely) terminated?
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Does anyone else just hope the 5.5 doesn't exist?


I know it will be viewed as a very subjective opinion but that screen size just seems so impractical to me. Apple has always been about looking out for the user which in some cases means giving them what they need not what they want. I'm really hoping they never submit to the 5.5" size. We have tablet for that reason and with wifi calling if you really want to take a call with a behemoth device you can.


5.5" dimension doesn't fit in your pocket well. I'd say maybe 30% of the world even has hands large enough to utilize the screenspace comfortably. It essentially requires a two handed use, unless you are in that 30% who have hands large enough to justify the size.


I know some people really crave it, I just think it's a foolish, unquantified request. That being said I'd just love to hear arguments for and practical use cases if anyone cares to share them.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. If the rumor about this form factor is true, I worry that the 5.5" may have some features that the 4.7" lacks.

I truly hope Apple does not do something like that. That would be very disappointing.

If they discontinue selling a 4" iPhone, THAT would be disappointing!
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I suppose if they moved to a paid subscriber model one might see less sensational headlines and phony analyst-driven coverage.

Right now they're just a human RSS feed, supplemented with analysts' press releases, DED blog, and the occasional non-professional, non-lab product review.

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If they discontinue selling a 4" iPhone, THAT would be disappointing!

That is quite unlikely. OTOH, the 3.5" may be history....

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Amazes me that Grandma Tilly would get a visit from the SEC for selling stock that might be conspicuously construed as "insider trading" (ie., she coincidentally sells it at the right time; who could've thunk?!). 

 

If you don't think these "analysts" aren't manipulating AAPL (and other) stocks for their gain, I've a bridge to sell you. Markets are emotional, and will react to this junk being manufactured from some analyst, whose predictions are as reliable as throwing darts at a wall of letters. 

 

The SEC should go after these rumors from "anonymous" sources. Create a law that requires a real source. So that windmills don't get chased, maybe craft the law so that they only go after the potential perpetrator if the stock swings more than, let's say, 7% in one day based on nothing other than the un-cited rumor. I bet the rumor mill would dry up quickly. 

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Between 5S and 5C, which line will be (likely) terminated?

You really want a random guess from strangers on the Internet? Might as well ask the Magic 8-ball 1smile.gif

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post #38 of 53
What if the 5.5 inch device is not an iPhone, but an iPad nano with full cellular capabilities? Launching in October would then make perfect sense.
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Yeah, gee, it would be awesome if these rumor sites would stop reporting these damn rumors. :rolleyes:

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Does anyone else just hope the 5.5 doesn't exist?

I know it will be viewed as a very subjective opinion but that screen size just seems so impractical to me. Apple has always been about looking out for the user which in some cases means giving them what they need not what they want. I'm really hoping they never submit to the 5.5" size. We have tablet for that reason and with wifi calling if you really want to take a call with a behemoth device you can.

5.5" dimension doesn't fit in your pocket well. I'd say maybe 30% of the world even has hands large enough to utilize the screenspace comfortably. It essentially requires a two handed use, unless you are in that 30% who have hands large enough to justify the size.

I know some people really crave it, I just think it's a foolish, unquantified request. That being said I'd just love to hear arguments for and practical use cases if anyone cares to share them.

If you think of it as a nano iPad, like layng does above here, it will sell on the strength of being the world's cutest and most desirable tablet. Like with the iPad mini, which many didn't see the use-case for, it may become a best-seller for a time, especially if they bump up the pixel density, which I expect them to do.

I'm sure they've also done some market research in other countries,China for example, and they may see a market case for a betweener tablet that matters much to people who use characters, but wouldn't matter so much to people who use an alphabet.

I can see a compelling use for this size as a hand-held virtual reality and stereoscopic player such as one needs for a viewer like Google Cardboard, which is right now limited to use with 4.7" to 5.5" Android phones.
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