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Purported 5.5-in. iPhone logic board surfaces alongside 'iPhone 6' part in new photos

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A logic board said to be destined for Apple's anticipated 5.5-inch iPhone was shown off in a new set of photos on Monday alongside a similar part reportedly headed for a 4.7-inch "iPhone 6."




The jumbo-sized iPhone version is approximately the same size as its smaller sibling, but features a slightly different layout. The photos were sourced by Chinese repair firm GeekBar and first first noted by Nowhereelse.fr

The 4.7-inch model was originally outed last weekend, and both parts are devoid of components -- the photos depict only the printed circuit boards themselves. The Chinese sources say that in addition to a next-generation "A8" CPU, the boards will play host to faster 802.11ac wireless networking chips as well as NFC hardware.

In addition, the boards are shown with what appear to be attachment points for debugging tools, suggesting that they are in fact pre-production parts.


A number of other preliminary components for Apple's new handsets have surfaced in recent weeks, including a control cable said to be for the 5.5-inch variant and another flex cable featuring a Lightning connector, microphone and headphone jack. A number of rear shells have also shown up alongside a supposed tougher display cover.

Apple is expected to debut at least one model at a media event in September, likely the 4.7-inch variant. Production for the 5.5-inch model has repeatedly been rumored to have been delayed over component concerns.
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There's the pink unicorn.

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There's the pink unicorn.
Clearly, the 5.5 is now proven beyond a shadow¡

Actually, I'm agnostic on the debate. I have no interest in the (horribly titled) segment called phablet, but there is no doubt that outside of being "not Apple", Samsung's greatest claim to the general public is big screens on their phone.
I will get a 4.7 on opening day because my 4s is limping along and I have been waiting for months to upgrade. I rue that my purchase will be aggregated in with blockbuster opening 6 sales to "prove" that all Apple users were dying for bigger screens....
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Clearly, the 5.5 is now proven beyond a shadow¡

Actually, I'm agnostic on the debate. I have no interest in the (horribly titled) segment called phablet, but there is no doubt that outside of being "not Apple", Samsung's greatest claim to the general public is big screens on their phone.
I will get a 4.7 on opening day because my 4s is limping along and I have been waiting for months to upgrade. I rue that my purchase will be aggregated in with blockbuster opening 6 sales to "prove" that all Apple users were dying for bigger screens....

 

Okay, you made a good point,  I was going to be there on opening day to swap out my 5 for the 4.7" 6, but I see that there are others in greater need, so I'll order mine and wait into Oct (Nov?) to get it in order to allow the 4S folks to get theirs first.  Least I can do.

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I bet when GeekBar takes family a photo, it also has "GeekBar GeekBar GeekBar" plastered all over it.

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There's the pink unicorn.

 

Strange that it’s the same size as the regular unicorn. Almost as though...

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All these rumors on parts that we can in no way confirm even go with the phone in question is laughable. Macrumors said it would be expensive to reproduce.. 

 

Umm.. these are circuit boards.. you can get custom designed boards w/no chips fairly cheep.. Until we see something from serious spit 'n polish 5.5" LED screens and/or aluminum shells, w/o the lines.. I'm going to remain extremely skeptical about a 5.5" iPhone 6. Even then, until Apple walks on stage with it, I'm basically thinking this is a simple 'bloggers' version of the show "Seinfeld" which was also a show about nothing.. ROFL!

 

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All these rumors on parts that we can in no way confirm even go with the phone in question is laughable. Macrumors said it would be expensive to reproduce.. 

 

Umm.. these are circuit boards.. you can get custom designed boards w/no chips fairly cheep.. Until we see something from serious spit 'n polish 5.5" LED screens and/or aluminum shells, w/o the lines.. I'm going to remain extremely skeptical about a 5.5" iPhone 6. Even then, until Apple walks on stage with it, I'm basically thinking this is a simple 'bloggers' version of the show "Seinfeld" which was also a show about nothing.. ROFL!

 

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FWIW, in the past iPhone parts that have appeared online and are pushed as legitimate parts from upcoming iPhones, generally turn out to be exactly that. I can't ever remember seeing a variety of parts leaks that were, in the end, proven to be illegitimate.  

 

That said, I'm still not convinced the 5.5 exists.

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That said, I'm still not convinced the 5.5 exists.

Even if it does, it doesn't deserve to. I'm going to remain a 5.5" denier even if it's announced and I can hold one in a store.
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Thinking out loud (which is dangerous), I'm wondering if smart phones are approaching commodity status or another way to look at it, at pinnacle of present design capability. IMO(granted I do not know the future) - Like the iPad, there is not a lot more that can be added to them that are 'must haves' by the public. Therefore phones of various sizes/prices etc makes sense. And then the question will be; will Apple/industry go off these yearly update cycles? 

Additional pontification-  for my personal use case, I'm not sure I want a 4.7 phone or bigger phone, 4 is big enough, will Apple update the 4 inch phone too? To fit everything in a 4 inch phone, will they have to...gasp... shudder... , increase the thickness? Which would be fine by me;  go ahead Sir Punk(Jony), add 2 mm to the thickness, make my day!

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FWIW, in the past iPhone parts that have appeared online and are pushed as legitimate parts from upcoming iPhones, generally turn out to be exactly that. I can't ever remember seeing a variety of parts leaks that were, in the end, proven to be illegitimate.  

 

That said, I'm still not convinced the 5.5 exists.

Well, it depends on your definition of 'exists'.

 

Personally I think it is about time to turn away whenever a headline appears that purports to show evidence of an iPhone 6 in any shape or form. It is time to distance myself a little from the rumor mill which I am guessing is about to go into overdrive pretty soon. The reason is that I'd like to preserve just a modicum of 'wow' when the time comes for the real revelations. In the past the rumor mill has taken on a life of its own and surpassed what is technologically possible resulting in howls of disappointment when the new products and services have failed to live up to expectations. Mind you, with the IOS 8 and Yosemite pre-views perhaps we have seen the big news already. Apple is a hardware company in the sense that that is where they make most of the money but in truth Apple is a software company. If you run Windows on your beautiful Apple hardware it is still Windows.

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All you 5.5 inch deniers are clueless.

 

Its coming out.  Deal with it.

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I'm wondering if smart phones are approaching commodity status or another way to look at it, at pinnacle of present design capability. IMO(granted I do not know the future) - Like the iPad, there is not a lot more that can be added to them that are 'must haves' by the public. Therefore phones of various sizes/prices etc makes sense. And then the question will be; will Apple/industry go off these yearly update cycles? 

 

Whether they're a commodity or not (and I think they are in consumers' minds from a pricing standpoint, since most of the price is buried in the monthly payments) is a separate factor of whether they're at the pinnacle of present design capability, with 'present' being the operative word.   

 

Present meaning "today", maybe.    But present meaning "tomorrow", definitely not.  The question is whether tomorrow means September or whether it means Fall 2015.

 

There are certainly vast improvements that can be made in terms of multitasking, screen resolution, effective use as an ebook reader, camera quality, UI, interaction with other devices, charging and battery life.    But as far as Apple is concerned, I don't think we're going to see much in this next generation aside from screen size and very small incremental improvements. 

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Strange that it’s the same size as the regular unicorn. Almost as though...

Because there's no difference in functionality except bigger screen. All they need is a larger battery for the screen.

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All these rumors on parts that we can in no way confirm even go with the phone in question is laughable. Macrumors said it would be expensive to reproduce.. 

 

Umm.. these are circuit boards.. you can get custom designed boards w/no chips fairly cheep.. Until we see something from serious spit 'n polish 5.5" LED screens and/or aluminum shells, w/o the lines.. I'm going to remain extremely skeptical about a 5.5" iPhone 6. Even then, until Apple walks on stage with it, I'm basically thinking this is a simple 'bloggers' version of the show "Seinfeld" which was also a show about nothing.. ROFL!

 

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When the parts are leaked close to production area (in Asia), they're no longer "R&D" parts. Apple can test a bunch of different logic boards made locally in California. When they decide to move forward, those R&D parts are destroyed. These's no reason to make R&D parts in Asia...

Sure..:"Foxconn, please make me 5 logic boards with following designs for our R&D purposes". Does it make sense to you?

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I'm not sure I want a 4.7 phone or bigger phone, 4 is big enough, will Apple update the 4 inch phone too? To fit everything in a 4 inch phone, will they have to...gasp... shudder... , increase the thickness? Which would be fine by me;  go ahead Sir Punk(Jony), add 2 mm to the thickness, make my day!

Have you compared the PCB of the existing 4" model to the alleged iPhone 6 (4.7" and 5.5")? I'm not sure how 2mm of thickness translates into room to "fit everything." You would either add more chips to the PCB, or integrate more functions into fewer chips. Either way, I don't see how 2mm of extra bulk adds room for "everything".

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The photos reveal the A8 die shrinkage compared to the A7, revealing they will be using 20nm/14nm FinFET. If the predictive transitor rates grows, combining the CPU and the newer ImgTec GPGPU it's clear they are no longer using 28nm.
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The photos reveal the A8 die shrinkage compared to the A7, revealing they will be using 20nm/14nm FinFET. If the predictive transitor rates grows, combining the CPU and the newer ImgTec GPGPU it's clear they are no longer using 28nm.

Die shrinkage? Shaving off a few nanometers is insane! I think we should be very concerned about Apple's obsession with portability and power efficiency. They should be putting in more kitchen sink features and making the iPhone bigger, less portable, and more power hungry like the competition. /s

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All you 5.5 inch deniers are clueless.

Its coming out.  Deal with it.

As usual, there will be the "it's just a big iPod touch" serial deniers, who always overlook Apple's mastery of the total package, and how size makes a difference when the customer holds it in her hands, and never when the geek contemplates the screen dimensions in the abstract, in the dim light of his feeble imagination.

A better example might be all the comments before we had the iPad mini: "I just don't see the use for a smaller iPad." Then the mini goes on to outsell the regular iPad for awhile, just because it turned out to be so damn lovable, and the "perfect size," many said.

They always pull it off, Apple, at least with their last several form factors. Even the 5c has an irresistibility factor for those who are susceptible. The 5.5" is going to be a fantastic picture and movie viewer, and it will sell like crazy.
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I hope the 5.5 inch model has big front facing speakers like HTC One.
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This 5.5 inch still seems a bit of unexistint.
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The 5.5" is going to be a fantastic picture and movie viewer, and it will sell like crazy.

The mainstream size would outsell it by 10:1 just like with other manufacturers who sell phablets. The additional cost puts people off buying.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/12/10/samsung-note-3-phablet-accounts-for-just-110-of-its-2013-premium-phone-sales
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The mainstream size would outsell it by 10:1 just like with other manufacturers who sell phablets. The additional cost puts people off buying.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/12/10/samsung-note-3-phablet-accounts-for-just-110-of-its-2013-premium-phone-sales

O-kay, noted. A couple of points. That was Samsung, this is Apple. For example, more of a Samsung plastic device is a bad thing; more of an Apple aluminum or Liquid Metal device will be a good thing. A larger Samsung home screen is worse, not so Apple. And so on.

Second, there may be a use case for an attractive, iOS-powered 5.5" device that no one is thinking about right now, such as a split-screen side-by-side stereoscopic video player used for educational purposes, just to imagine something. Or 5.5" might be perceived as the ideal portable movie-watching size by the Apple public, who have far different intuitions about platforms from Samsung or Android users.

We've seen a few instances where a platform isn't well exploited until Apple does their version. Best to be cautious about second-guessing them.
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The mainstream size would outsell it by 10:1 just like with other manufacturers who sell phablets. The additional cost puts people off buying.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/13/12/10/samsung-note-3-phablet-accounts-for-just-110-of-its-2013-premium-phone-sales

I'm not sure an iPhone 5.5" would be in the same category as a Samsung Note. I look at it as only marginally larger than a Samsung S5. I borrowed an S5 from a co-worker for a quick test to see how it fit in Levis 501 front pocket, and it fit fine even sitting. Of course even an iPhone 5 is difficult to get out of the pocket while seated. Currently I'm in Panama, which as I mentioned in another thread, has about 8% economic growth right now, and everyone has lots of stylish fashion and jewelry and they are all carrying an S5, and by everyone, I mean everyone with a smart phone. I do see some iPhones but pretty much only with tourists. Samsung has pretty much taken over the country. It is like the exact inverse of the US.

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I'm not sure an iPhone 5.5" would be in the same category as a Samsung Note. I look at it as only marginally larger than a Samsung S5. I borrowed an S5 from a co-worker for a quick test to see how it fit in Levis 501 front pocket, and it fit fine even sitting. Of course even an iPhone 5 is difficult to get out of the pocket while seated. Currently I'm in Panama, which as I mentioned in another thread, has about 8% economic growth right now, and everyone has lots of stylish fashion and jewelry and they are all carrying an S5, and by everyone, I mean everyone with a smart phone. I do see some iPhones but pretty much only with tourists. Samsung has pretty much taken over the country. It is like the exact inverse of the US.

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Big booty women have big pockets. lol.gif

That is perhaps the stupidest post all day. For your information, obesity is almost non-existent in Panama, unlike the US which has about a 66% obesity rate.

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That is perhaps the stupidest post all day. For your information, obesity is almost non-existent in Panama, unlike the US which has about a 66% obesity rate.

 

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Originally Posted by Marvin View Post
Even if [the 5.5” iPhone exists], it doesn’t deserve to.

 

... I need this. But I like little naked weirdos... 

 

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All you 5.5 inch deniers are clueless. Its coming out.  Deal with it.

 

Thanks for all the proof! Hey, Tim, could you maybe get Craig to build metadata editing into iBooks? Thanks.

 

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Because there's no difference in functionality except bigger screen.

 

Except the larger screen completely destroys functionality.

 

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That is perhaps the stupidest post all day. For your information, obesity is almost non-existent in Panama, unlike the US which has about a 66% obesity rate.


Where did he say anything whatsoever about obesity? Come on.

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Thanks for all the proof! Hey, Tim, could you maybe get Craig...

Lets make a bet.
If Apple makes a phone bigger than 5 inches this year you ban yourself here for 1 month.
If i'm wrong i'll ban myself.

Get a clue man. So obvious the big phone is coming out.
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Where did he say anything whatsoever about obesity? Come on.

Big booty = fat ass

Perhaps I misunderstand American slang. Is that not correct?

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Big booty = fat ass
Perhaps I misunderstand American slang. Is that not correct?

Not all the time

Could be a compliment in certain circles
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Die shrinkage? Shaving off a few nanometers is insane! I think we should be very concerned about Apple's obsession with portability and power efficiency. They should be putting in more kitchen sink features and making the iPhone bigger, less portable, and more power hungry like the competition. /s

The 20nm die shrink with 14nm FinFET drops power consumption by > 60%, coming from 28nm, while increasing speed by > 40%.

Source: http://globalfoundries.com/technology-solutions/leading-edge-technologies/20lpm



The 20nm LPM adoption by GlobalFoundries allows for both GloFo and Samsung to transition to 14nm FinFET jointly.
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That is perhaps the stupidest post all day. For your information, obesity is almost non-existent in Panama, unlike the US which has about a 66% obesity rate.

Come off it. There are plenty of Latinas that have big butts and are nowhere near fat let alone obese. Just look at Jennifer Lopez, Selena, and all the Spanish station weather girls. I wasn't being condescending, I was being facetious.
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Lets make a bet.

 

I’ll take the bet under the stipulation that you just not say anything you can’t confirm–about ANYTHING–until the release of the next iPhone, and not in any way under any condition you have set.


There. Problem solved.

 

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Big booty = fat ass

 

Sure, but that doesn’t mean obesity. [warning: image may contain kardashians]

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Come off it. There are plenty of Latinas that have big butts and are nowhere near fat let alone obese. Just look at Jennifer Lopez, Selena, and all the Spanish station weather girls. I wasn't being condescending, I was being facetious.

My bad. I thought big booty was a medical term for over weight  /s

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Sure, but that doesn’t mean obesity. [warning: image may contain kardashians]

Well, while you may be able to find some coins in those couch cushions, I still don't see any pockets.

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My bad. I thought big booty was a medical term for over weight  /s

Now that's funny.
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Sure, but that doesn’t mean obesity. [warning: image may contain kardashians]

Thanks kind sir for your assistance, and many more thanks for the gratuitous photo of Kim K's voluptuous posterior. 1wink.gif
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I’ll take the bet under the stipulation that you just not say anything you can’t confirm–about ANYTHING–until the release of the next iPhone, and not in any way under any condition you have set.


There. Problem solved.

 

 

 

 

So are we on or what?

 

If Apple releases a phone larger than 5 inches this year you don't post in this forum for 1 month.

If they don't I won't post for 1 month.

 

Are you in?  

 

If not, then you probably don't like your odds.  

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So are we on or what?

If Apple releases a phone larger than 5 inches this year you don't post in this forum for 1 month.
If they don't I won't post for 1 month.

Are you in?  

If not, then you probably don't like your odds.  

Now just a minute here. What are we supposed to do for entertainment for a month if one of you disappears?
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