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U.S. carrier T-Mobile on Thursday posted strong results for its fiscal second quarter, adding 1.5 million subscribers, more customers than any other wireless provider, while recording a $391 million profit on revenues of $7.2 billion.

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"We have completely reversed T-Mobile's trajectory and started a revolution that is changing the rules in wireless," T-Mobile CEO John Legere said in a release. The quarter marks T-Mobile's fifth consecutive period with over 1 million net subscriber additions.

In comparison, competitors AT&T and Verizon posted net additions of 1 million and 1.4 million subscribers, respectively, in their own fiscal second quarters. Sprint, rumored to be in merger talks with T-Mobile, lost 245,000.

Some 329,000 of T-Mobile's additions were mobile broadband customers driven by tablets, the company noted, a five-fold increase from the previous quarter. T-Mobile sees tablets such as the iPad -- as well as wearable devices -- as a significant opportunity for growth.

"We're very excited about wearables coming with their own radios, and we're seeing some of these on the horizon," T-Mobile marketing chief Mike Sievert added during Thursday's earnings call.

Despite the rapid increase in tablets, smartphones continued to dominate T-Mobile's hardware sales. The carrier moved 6.2 million smartphones in the quarter, and the devices now account for 83 percent of phones on T-Mobile's branded network.

T-Mobile has the smallest exposure of any major carrier to the iPhone, however. Asked for his opinion on whether the launch of Apple's next-generation handset would have a material impact on the company's subscriber growth going forward, Legere said that such an event would present a "huge opportunity," but was cagey on specifics.

"You're not gonna get me to use the iPhone 6 word on this call," Legere joked.

Apple and T-Mobile have worked more closely in recent months as T-Mobile claws its way back into contention with its larger rivals thanks to a series of "Un-Carrier" initiatives. As part of "Un-Carrier 5.0," T-Mobile offered potential customers a free iPhone 5s with unlimited data to "test drive" the carrier's network for one week.
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On the other hand, it kind of makes sense.

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count me as a couple of those
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U.S. carrier T-Mobile on Thursday posted strong results for its fiscal second quarter, adding 1.5 million subscribers . . .

count me as a couple of those. i finally moved all three family lines off at&t: two went to t-mobile; one went to a regional carrier. the reduction in monthly costs amounts to about $40. all three lines now have a much better wireless plan and definitely better value. i've found just two specific spots where i do not get a t-mobile signal where i did get an at&t signal, and i've found one specific spot where i now get a t-mobile signal where i did not get an at&t signal. to paraphrase principal skinner: "up yours, at&t".
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"You're not gonna get me to use the iPhone 6 word on this call," Legere joked.

Good. Nobody should. Respect the wishes from your supplier. Or employer, friend's wishes. But please do not spread rumours, especially not here on Politcal Outsider.com, we have enough issues with disagreements on world topics as it is.

Edit: ooh thanks AI, it all got edited out, good on you!
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As a disruptive force to the general business model of the cell phone industry T-Mobile is not really any different. When you look closely all the good incentives are to get you to move from another carrier. If you are not under contract, they are really not offering anything more or better than the others. If you really want a better deal look at Consumer Cellular which I have found to be much better for those who are not massive data and talk consumers.
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As a disruptive force to the general business model of the cell phone industry T-Mobile is not really any different. When you look closely all the good incentives are to get you to move from another carrier. If you are not under contract, they are really not offering anything more or better than the others. If you really want a better deal look at Consumer Cellular which I have found to be much better for those who are not massive data and talk consumers.

 

Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120

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Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120

 

Like I said, if you are not a major consumer of data and talk. I have two iPhones and all the talk, text and data that I need and I pay between $45-50 a month for both phones.

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Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120

 

Like I said, if you are not a major consumer of data and talk. I have two iPhones and all the talk, text and data that I need and I pay between $45-50 a month for both phones.

 

But what about iPad plans?  My plan includes 10GB for 2 ipads also with hot spot.

And what kind of network?  Does it use 4G-LTE?

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Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120


I just switched this month from AT&T. For me, the free international text & data convinced me. It was exorbitant to get a similar level of service on AT&T for roaming in Asia. I gave AT&T a chance to match it before I switched, and they couldn't.

 

The guy at the T-Mobile store said they are stealing AT&T and especially Sprint customers (ironic, since they may merge).

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Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120

 

Like I said, if you are not a major consumer of data and talk. I have two iPhones and all the talk, text and data that I need and I pay between $45-50 a month for both phones.

 

I did 600 minutes of talk + 2.5GB of data comes out to $50 per phone.  That's only $10 cheaper per phone than my unlimited T-mobile plan.  Plus my T-mobile plan has 5GB of hotspot service for my iPad.

 

I guess if you use less than 1GB of data its a good deal.  But 2.5GB of data isn't much at all.  I average well over 5GB a month.

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Tmobile is a great deal.

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.
AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120



Like I said, if you are not a major consumer of data and talk. I have two iPhones and all the talk, text and data that I need and I pay between $45-50 a month for both phones.

which carrier?
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which carrier?

VZW actually has a unadvertised plan with unlimited talk, text, with 2 GBs of data for $60.
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which carrier?

Consumer Cellular

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But what about iPad plans?  My plan includes 10GB for 2 ipads also with hot spot.

And what kind of network?  Does it use 4G-LTE?

My iPad is on the original unlimited plan with AT&T. Consumer Cellular uses the AT&T network.

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Tmobile is a great deal.

 

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.

AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

 

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120

Interesting perspective. So if I was a cell phone company and I said I would charge you $1000 a month for the plan that you have you would be happy because you are saving $860 a month. The idea is, can you get your plan for less, not more.

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This is all about a small country in the sticks. What about the rest of the world fellas?
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It is no brainer why t-mobile succeeding against other 3 carriers.. Monthly Plan pricing is right with no data overage, 3G/4G coverage has improved lot and customer service reasonable. You don't need to be rocket scientist to understand why TMO doing good and will continue doing good until other carriers follow the same strategy. In bad economy, customer's mentality changes and turns to products/services offering lower cost, bargain.
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I wish Apple would look under it's couch cushions to get the change it needed to buy T-Mobile. That would make things extremely interesting. I have a $1 that says Samsung would immediately run after Sprint. :-)
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As a disruptive force to the general business model of the cell phone industry T-Mobile is not really any different. When you look closely all the good incentives are to get you to move from another carrier. If you are not under contract, they are really not offering anything more or better than the others. If you really want a better deal look at Consumer Cellular which I have found to be much better for those who are not massive data and talk consumers.


I strongly disagree.

 

If you travel internationally on any sort of annual basis, TMobile is an awesome deal.

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I wish Apple would look under it's couch cushions to get the change it needed to buy T-Mobile.

 

Apple wanted to have its own network just for the iPhone back in 2006. They were told they would be forced to allow all phones on it, so they decided against it.

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Interesting perspective. So if I was a cell phone company and I said I would charge you $1000 a month for the plan that you have you would be happy because you are saving $860 a month. The idea is, can you get your plan for less, not more.

Tell me what plan gives you this for $120

2 lines
Unlimited talk
Unlimited text
Unlimited 4G LTE data
10 GB of hotspot access (for iPads)
No international fees on roaming/text


Show me a plan cheaper than that
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Tell me what plan gives you this for $120

2 lines
Unlimited talk
Unlimited text
Unlimited 4G LTE data
10 GB of hotspot access (for iPads)
No international fees on roaming/text

 

Straight Talk will do three lines for that price.

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Straight Talk will do three lines for that price.

 

BS.

 

'Unlimited' Straight talk is $45 per month.  And that 'unlimited' is only 3GB of high speed.  The T-mobile plan is TRUE UNLIMITED high speed 4G-LTE.  Plus Straight talk does not allow hot spot access.  T-mobile gives 5GB per user.  Plus international calling is FREE, international text free, no roaming.  Straight talks unlimited international plan is $60 and also is limited to 3GB high speed.

 

$60 Straight talk unlimited - 3GB max 4G, Zero hot spot access

$60 T-Mobile - UNLIMITED 4G-LTE, 5GB hotspot access

 

Try again.

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This is all about a small country in the sticks. What about the rest of the world fellas?

We got some mighty big sticks over here. lol.gif
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BS.

'Unlimited' Straight talk is $45 per month.  And that 'unlimited' is only 3GB of high speed.  The T-mobile plan is TRUE UNLIMITED high speed 4G-LTE.  Plus Straight talk does not allow hot spot access.  T-mobile gives 5GB per user.  Plus international calling is FREE, international text free, no roaming.  Straight talks unlimited international plan is $60 and also is limited to 3GB high speed.

$60 Straight talk unlimited - 3GB max 4G, Zero hot spot access
$60 T-Mobile - UNLIMITED 4G-LTE, 5GB hotspot access

Try again.

Really? You're in a 'least cell phone bill' pissing contest with TS? lol.gif
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'Unlimited' Straight talk is $45 per month.

 

40.

 
And that 'unlimited' is only 3GB of high speed.  The T-mobile plan is TRUE UNLIMITED high speed 4G-LTE.

 

Good luck with that. No carrier doesn’t throttle.

 
Plus Straight talk does not allow hot spot access.  T-mobile gives 5GB per user.

 

Who cares? No one uses them anyway. It can’t possibly be financially prudent (or add value to the user) to freely connect to gas stations, coffee shops, or pay phones.

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40.

 

Good luck with that. No carrier doesn’t throttle.

 

Who cares? No one uses them anyway. It can’t possibly be financially prudent (or add value to the user) to freely connect to gas stations, coffee shops, or pay phones.

 

The webpage says $45 for unlimited, $60 for international unlimited (T-mobile is international unlimited)

http://www.straighttalk.com/wps/portal/home/shop/serviceplans

 

T-Mobile does not throttle up to at least 30GB.  That's the most I've ever done in a month.  All I know is 3GB is piss poor.  I go through that in two days.

 

Ever heard of iPad data plans?  With Tmobile I don't need one since I can teether 5GB's of FREE high speed data.  I can use my phone as the hotspot and get 4G-lte use for my iPad.  Free access at gas stations/coffee shops are sketcy.  You are at their mercy for security and most places have piss poor speed.  And what about places that don't have free wifi? 

 

Just get it straight son:  For a high data user (5GB or more high speed) you can't beat T-Mobiles unlimited plan at $120 for two users.

 

YOU LOST. DEAL WITH IT.

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The webpage says $45 for unlimited

 

Huh. It’s $40 here.

 

I can use my phone as the hotspot...

 

Oh, tethering; I see, my mistake. Not hotspots, then.

 
 And what about places that don't have free wifi? 

 

Yeah, that’s the idea: high-traffic locations partner with the cell carriers to give Wi-Fi, limiting cell network use, but it’s just not safe at all.

 
 Just get it straight son

 

Yes, get it Straight (talk). If you don’t trust T-Mobile’s network (which isn’t available everywhere), you can’t go with them. Better to trust Verizon’s network (or AT&T’s if you bring your own phone).

 

YOU LOST. DEAL WITH IT. 


There’s nothing to lose. You haven’t won anything. Are you still just upset that you have no proof a 5.5” iPhone exists?

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Huh. It’s $40 here.

 

Oh, tethering; I see, my mistake. Not hotspots, then.

 

Yeah, that’s the idea: high-traffic locations partner with the cell carriers to give Wi-Fi, limiting cell network use, but it’s just not safe at all.

 

Yes, get it Straight (talk). If you don’t trust T-Mobile’s network (which isn’t available everywhere), you can’t go with them. Better to trust Verizon’s network (or AT&T’s if you bring your own phone).


There’s nothing to lose. You haven’t won anything. Are you still just upset that you have no proof a 5.5” iPhone exists?

 

To summarize please find me a plan that offers all these things for $120 for 2 users

 

1. True unlimited 4G-LTE Data.  No caps to at least 30GB

2. Free international texting, calls, and roaming

3. 5GB of 4G-LTE tethering per user

 

Trust me.  I looked everywhere and no one can match that price.

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Tmobile is a great deal.

2 lines with unlimited 4G-LTE data, unlimited talk, unlimited text.  And 5GB of LTE hotspot for iPads per user (total 10GB).  All for $120.
AT&T charges over $200 for a simular plan without unlimited data.

Looks like if you join now my plan cost $140, still about 50% cheaper than Verizon/AT&T.  Glad there are only charging me $120



Like I said, if you are not a major consumer of data and talk. I have two iPhones and all the talk, text and data that I need and I pay between $45-50 a month for both phones.

For about sixty dollars a month you can get unlimited everything on T-Mobile for two lines - that includes regional and most international roaming and the ability to use your phone as a hotspot. T-Mobile also has cheaper in advertised plans for as low as $35 a month. The disruption is doing away with contracts, including international roaming and 200MB of tablet data for free, and paying generous money to cover expenses to leave your current carrier.
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Yea I think my next iphone will be unlocked so I can look at my options, and already have a phone to take to a network versus buying a subsidized phone and being on contract.
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I use Straight Talk. 46$ and change. AT&T backbone, unlimited text talk, 2.5gb of data. No contract. I love knowing AT&T gets nothing from me, and my bill is cut in half. Ill stay with ST forever great service, been with them for years now.
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T-Mobile is advertising a new 4 lines $100/month and 10GB data just yesterday.
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T-Mobile is advertising a new 4 lines $100/month and 10GB data just yesterday.

And that plan is unlimited data, it is just after the 10GBs is used, it drops to 3G. TMobile also does not have a hard throttle policy other than in peak times it might drop the speeds of heavy data users.
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Also the wifi calling in iOS8 should help carriers that have signal issues if you can get wifi in places where there isn't cellular signal.

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My family is moving back to T-mobile soon. We grabbed $400 from AT&T to switch to them. After the first 45 days they credited it to us and thus we had no cell bill for almost three months.

 

Now that we might have a cell bill to pay it is time to port back to T-mobile which now has a 4 line family plan of unlimited talk, text and 2.5 gigs of high speed data for only $100.

 

You bet I'm happy at $25 per line for that plan including data.

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I would like to remind the iPad people out there that even the cheapest $10 1 gig plan includes music freedom. Free plans do not
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Apple wanted to have its own network just for the iPhone back in 2006. They were told they would be forced to allow all phones on it, so they decided against it.

I either missed that or forgot, thanks!  Apple made a smart choice then.  I wouldn't to deal with all the other crap phones out there either.  ;) 

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I would like to remind the iPad people out there that even the cheapest $10 1 gig plan includes music freedom. Free plans do not

 

another option is to get the unlimited phone plan that includes 5GB of LTE teethering service.

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That's not to knock the USA, but there's almighty big world out there, where most of Apple's stuff is made. You go to most other countries outside the USA and you would see pots of Apple products in use. It would be interesting to know what percentage of Apple stuff is used in the USA compared to the rest of the world. Real stats, that is.

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