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iOS is losing market share in the terrorist and religious fascist demographic, according to IDC.
post #82 of 204
Followup DED article:

Should the TSA ban all Android devices like small liquid containers because of their use with Al Queda?

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post #83 of 204

So many comments in such a short amount of time.  As asinine as the article is, I've got to hand it to DED.  He knows what his readers want and he delivers it.

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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post

So many comments in such a short amount of time.  As asinine as the article is, I've got to hand it to DED.  He knows what his readers want and he delivers it.

Correction: He knows what AI wants...more clicks. Accuracy be damned.

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post #85 of 204
"Android's unrestricted ability to sideload apps (install software that is not signed, from outside of a secure App Store) may be part of the platform's appeal to Al-Qaeda,". Wow, ya think? LOL!
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Originally Posted by Apple ][ View Post

...I've never heard of any Islamic terrorists who were caught with Macs. And believe me, [islamic terrorism] is right up my alley...

 

Oh boy, here we go...

 

Originally Posted by Walatic View Post
And I'm a die hard apple fan

 

Oh, well, now we believe you¡ And no, I’m not supporting this dreck.

Originally Posted by Marvin

The only thing more insecure than Android’s OS is its userbase.
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post #87 of 204
"You've gotta be fucking kidding me with this article."

I don't know. I read the headline and said this has to be Daniel. It gave me a great early morning laugh.

DED, don't stop!
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You've gotta be fucking kidding me with this article.

I can't even make it past the headline, DED opinion articles have reached a new all time low.

 

How is he kidding? The information in this article was already reported days ago on other, more reputable websites. Search the web and you'll find it elsewhere, but without DED's name (and spin) attached to it. So if DED's opinion bothers you that much, there are plenty of other news sites; AppleInsider doesn't have an exclusive on anything.

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post #89 of 204

Swimsuit models prefer iOS.

 

That's all I care about!

 

:D

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Swimsuit models prefer iOS.

That's all I care about!

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And if you hang around long enough at the Soho store you might see some. 1wink.gif
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Lmao. Wonderful reply. You and Daniel make this site for what it is, at least for me.

Agreed. I gave up posting after Apple ][ came along, he takes the words out of my mouth, and make me much more productive in other areas!

post #92 of 204

Meh.

 

It's obvious terrorist organizations would use Android. That's because they can modify it to do what they wish.

 

Organizations that need customized security (the US military, for example) have also used modified versions of Android in the past.

 

While it's a fact that Android isn't as secure as iOS, I highly doubt that people using Android should fear terrorists getting information from their devices just because criminals/terrorists are also using it. Their reason for using it is the ability to use their own security - not because they want to steal data from us "regular people".

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Originally Posted by EricTheHalfBee View Post

Meh.

It's obvious terrorist organizations would use Android. That's because they can modify it to do what they wish.

Organizations that need customized security (the US military, for example) have also used modified versions of Android in the past.

While it's a fact that Android isn't as secure as iOS, I highly doubt that people using Android should fear terrorists getting information from their devices just because criminals/terrorists are also using it. Their reason for using it is the ability to use their own security - not because they want to steal data from us "regular people".

OBL had no cell phones, he used a courier to send and receive messages. By now everyone is aware of the porosity of Android security. An Android phone can (relatively) easily be remotely infiltrated by the NSA, which actually makes it a poor choice for an "evil-doer". I reject the entire premise of this opinion piece.

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post #94 of 204

Fun article for a Sunday. Brought out a lot of new posters and of course the old guys had to chip in as well. I know Daniel loves Apple products and have met him. What he's doing is the same thing Samsung and Microsoft do in their anti-Apple ads, which they get away with all the time. I haven't read that many comments about how these two companies make up things about Apple that everyone seems to take as gospel yet Daniel simply reports on something other sites have reports and all of a sudden he's the worse person on earth. I had a huge smile on my face when I read the article and it actually makes a lot of sense. You could easily extend his comments to any other nefarious organization and it wouldn't surprise me if they're also using throw-away Android phones for the simple fact they don't have to jailbreak them to sideload applications. In fact, I don't remember ever seeing an iPhone used in a spy movie, they're always using something else. (If you can prove me wrong, fine, show me the clip and I'll retract me statement.) Associating Android phones with the "bag guys" makes sense to me as an iPhone user. Google steals code, Samsung steals designs and won't pay licenses, what else do you need to associate Android phones with this type of culture?

 

On the flip side, and again show me proof I'm wrong, Apple provides the best mobile security out of the box, continues to fight against jailbreakers, does its best to not bend over to government demands for backdoors or release of confidential source code, and provides the safest app store. These are all known facts and something iOS users should be proud of Apple for providing and supporting. Provide documentation on how an Android phone supplier even comes close to what Apple provides.

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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post

Oh boy, here we go...

It's like deja vu all over again. lol.gif
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OBL had no cell phones, he used a courier to send and receive messages. By now everyone is aware of the porosity of Android security. An Android phone can (relatively) easily be remotely infiltrated by the NSA, which actually makes it a poor choice for an "evil-doer". I reject the entire premise of this opinion piece.
You can download AOSP and remove large portions of the code leaving only the bare minimum you need. Then add in any additional features you require (like secure encrypted communication) and modify what's remaining to perform only the functions you require.

A criminal/terrorist group could write their own bare-bones OS just for communicating with their own ranks. The NSA would have no way of knowing if such on OS even existed unless they got their hands on an actual device.

Taking AOSP and using it as a base would greatly reduce the effort to create such an OS.
post #97 of 204
Come on, people. This hating on DED meme is getting both humorous and tiresome. Even if he does sometimes write things fanboys love, is that the worst thing on an Applecentric forum? I've see less vitriolic (and numerous) responses aimed at Android trolls who post here. With all the biased stuff in the press about Apple, can't we allow ourselves a little talkback?

Note also that he is reporting on the research posted by others. If you have an issue with its veracity, why not take it up with them. Is it better that we ignore such reports and be ignorant of them?

When/if he simply posts rumors or makes stuff up, I'll join you in calling him on it. Until then, let me enjoy some self-serving good news in my "Sunday paper."
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post #98 of 204
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In defense of DED

I am curious why the response from most is so negative to this editorial. If the information is false then give sources showing it to be so. If it is true it is surely as news worthy as all the silly rumors about rumors of rumors.

The obvious response, for me at least, and I read the entire thread expecting someone to have said this, is the US spy services should develop a Stuxnet type approach and apologize for the collateral damage to Google later. The fact they use such a poorly made OS as Android as their main communications system is surely good news for any American?

Had the information been they were using mainly iOS then that would be bad news. As I say, I am scratching my head at the responses, AI has long covered all things Google and Scamsung why is this different?

My only slightly negative feeling is this should be kept quiet and the Stuntex type attack put out there ASAP. I don't want them who shall not be named switching!

Because the article is idiocy. Why do Al-Qaeda use Android? Because Apple aren't exactly going to approve their apps. 

 

Leaping from 'Al-Qaeda write apps for the only platform they can write apps for' to 'by writing apps Al-Qaeda discover security vulnerabilities on their chosen platform and get free access to a huge botnet of cheap smartphones' is the sort of thing you'd expect from someone in a padded cell wearing a tinfoil hat.

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Originally Posted by woodycurmudgeon View Post

You've gotta be fucking kidding me with this article.

I can't even make it past the headline, DED opinion articles have reached a new all time low.

Yeah, this is absurd. 

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Originally Posted by DroidFTW View Post
 

So many comments in such a short amount of time.  As asinine as the article is, I've got to hand it to DED.  He knows what his readers want and he delivers it.

I was just going to post almost exactly the same thing. Looks like DED nailed it.

Yahoo News message boards; here we come!

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Originally Posted by Zinthar View Post

wtf AI? This should really not be an article. It's shameless guilt by association (ie if you use Android, you're more likely to be a terrorist).

It might actually be interesting if they were using iPhones because of the hypocrisy of making use of technology that's among the most recognizable symbols of American influence in the world, something which they despise.

I have no problem with other articles that primarily focus on Samsung or Android, but this is going too far.

PS -- AI, your iPhone app hasn't been updated for iOS 7 yet...
Are you serious? Look at there latest update, January, full IOS 7 compatibility!!!
post #102 of 204
Everyone know Androiders are terrorists. /s

I heard Sammy is trying to capitalize on this with the Galaxy S Jihad.
post #103 of 204
Everone prefers Android over iOS.
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Originally Posted by DarkLite View Post

Leaping from 'Al-Qaeda write apps for the only platform they can write apps for' to 'by writing apps Al-Qaeda discover security vulnerabilities on their chosen platform and get free access to a huge botnet of cheap smartphones' is the sort of thing you'd expect from someone in a padded cell wearing a tinfoil hat.

Except that your forgetting that they can set up a business account and install whatever apps they want. There's probably millions of iOS devices running apps that didn't go through the approval process.
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post #105 of 204
Daniel, do you have a cold, and facing an article deadline?

This doesn't come close to what I have come to expect from you.
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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

When/if he simply posts rumors or makes stuff up, I'll join you in calling him on it. 

 

He does make stuff up, all the time.

 

The suggestion that al-Qaeda might be running an Android smartphone botnet was not only a conjecture but a ridiculous one.

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Except that your forgetting that they can set up a business account and install whatever apps they want. There's probably millions of iOS devices running apps that didn't go through the approval process.

Last I checked, the iOS developer program requires various bits of proof that you're a company. Why would they bother doing that when Android development is easier for them (and the devices are cheaper, too)?

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Last I checked, the iOS developer program requires various bits of proof that you're a company. Why would they bother doing that when Android development is easier for them (and the devices are cheaper, too)?

How many corporations are there that secretly funnel money to AL Qaeda? Quite a few I imagine. Isn't also much easier to code for iOS because of the lesser amount of devices?
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And if you hang around long enough at the Soho store you might see some. 1wink.gif

Apple Store or Victoria's Secret?

 

;)

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Apple Store or Victoria's Secret?

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Either or, but you're gonna start looking pervy after a few hours in a Victoria's Secret store. Much easier to chat up Adriana Lima about iPads than panties. lol.gif
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post #111 of 204

I heard Hitler used Android too!

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Originally Posted by Robin Huber View Post

Come on, people. This hating on DED meme is getting both humorous and tiresome. Even if he does sometimes write things fanboys love, is that the worst thing on an Applecentric forum? I've see less vitriolic (and numerous) responses aimed at Android trolls who post here. With all the biased stuff in the press about Apple, can't we allow ourselves a little talkback?

Note also that he is reporting on the research posted by others. If you have an issue with its veracity, why not take it up with them. Is it better that we ignore such reports and be ignorant of them?

When/if he simply posts rumors or makes stuff up, I'll join you in calling him on it. Until then, let me enjoy some self-serving good news in my "Sunday paper."

 

What's really funny are people who didn't read the article past the headline because they assumed DED was making up another anti-Android polemic. Except he's not making it up. This time there really is a wolf when DED cried "wolf!"

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post #113 of 204
I can think of a hilarious Al-Qaeda video endorsing Android roughly similar to this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfR49AuUsW0

The catch phase might be, "So safe, so secure, it's endorsed by 9 out of 10 of the world's top terrorist organizations."
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What's really funny are people who didn't read the article past the headline because they assumed DED was making up another anti-Android polemic. Except he's not making it up. This time there really is a wolf when DED cried "wolf!"

I'm kinda skeptical of any article that lumps together Android, and "latest technological advancements" lol.gif
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post #115 of 204
Well, duh - just watch "24" - the good guys used Macs, the bad guys used everything else.
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<snip>

 

"It also makes perfect sense that Al-Qaeda terrorists prefer Android!

 

Apple is for creative people, and terrorists are not exactly the creative type. And no, figuring out new ways of killing people or blowing yourself up does not qualify as being creative.".... and the Kardashians and other low life scum.

 

 

 

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You know, for all the haters calling this article "asinine" and/or dismissing DED as a writer, no one has attacked the source or facts presented in the article as inaccurate, slanted, or fiction. Not even even the smokescreen of FUD, which is frequently used to dilute anything they don't want to believe to be true. Wow. DED's got 'em right where he wants: cornered and writhing. :D

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I heard Hitler used Android too!

 

The difference here is that DED can back up what he says. Can you?

Didn't think so.

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The difference here is that DED can back up what he says. Can you?

Didn't think so.

 

Apart of Al Qaeda using encryption apps (the thing other site are reporting), what can DED back from this article?

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Originally Posted by Gwydion View Post

Apart of Al Qaeda using encryption apps (the thing other site are reporting), what can DED back from this article?

And they could be making apps with a business account that we'll never know about because those wouldn't be in the app store. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
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