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I know why the PC brigade hate Apple:

Its because Apple broke the sacred rule. "Though shall not make computers easy to use" Nerds love job security , if a computer can be made to work by Mom and Pop then they are out of a job. Nerds love to be seen as geniuses, being able to fix Windows makes them feel good and gives off an aura a of perceived cleverness.

this is pretty close...  In general I agree, but I would argue it's more 'sweat equity' of making the @#$Q%!$ things work, you feel that you've 'earned' the right to say, 'it was a hard horse to break, but now that I've done it, it's the best horse ever!'

 

There is also the concept that Apple hardware is expensive and time is free, especially if you're getting paid to supply time (paid to be the hero). 

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IDC, Gartner etc, are spin merchants who are making money selling lies to Corporations and the corporate clones suck it up and sell it to their CTO and the whole circus goes on and on. Its a house of cards? 

The fact that the Surface was not going to be cloned was a critical failure in the loss of the Corporate bean counters.  Windows won the enterprise not on technology but on the fact of ruthless competition for the Hardware sale.  

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 at my workplace there are several WP fans who still think WP is going to succeed. It so amusing watching them squirm as it fails.

Gartner pushed WinPhone into 1st Place 'by 2014' in 2007.    There's still hope for that bet to come in... not.

 

I remember in the 90s, showing people the NeXT and telling them this is real object oriented computing, and the Windows SysAdmin just said, "Look at the share price... you trying to tell me to tell management to bet against Windows... it's through the roof!"

 

(And RIMM's highest ever price was a year after the iPhone was released....  and now we are seeing all those people who bought into that model finally switching... another 'i've finally taught my thumbs how to type on this keypad... I'm a genius/expert/gift!!!!')

 

I like to wander over and read Thurott occasionally, and see how much his bravado has changed, he who is DED and Gruber rolled into one in the windows world.

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The only issue Apple has right now is competing with itself. We have an app that we keep running on iOS 5.1 and higher.  15% of our users are still using an iPad 1 and about 35% are running iPad 2.  These are current stats.  What that means is that half of our users are running 3 year old devices perfectly well!  The "issue" is that Apple has created a near perfect device the first time around so the cycle time is about 3-4 years.

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Interesting fact: 45%/22 unknown companies equals 2.05% market share for each of the 22 unknown companies equally.

So IDC is trying to tell us that there is no company between the 22 other companies that standout more than the other and they all hold an equal 2.05% of the market... I cry oligopoly!!

/sarcasm
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I just read that article. It was was an ad for reasons to BUY an iPad. Despite the headline the article was vastly pro apple. Idk if it was intentional on the writers side to do that but that article was a +1 for iPad

It wouldn't be expected to be an anti or pro-Apple article. I've always perceived Ars to be as un-biased and fair a site as any I can think of.
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Another officeworker did use a Google tablet, but gave up on it and bought an iPad after it had screen problems and Google's "customer service" turned into a bunch of finger-pointing emails and no actual support.

LOL!

One of my favorite Fandroid memes in these forums is the "Android users are l33t" meme, which assumes all Android users are more tech savvy than the average iOS user because they root their own phone and would never download Android malware or virus so it must not be a real problem for the platform.

Google's "go google the help forums" idea of customer service is a DIY solution suited only to tech savvy users who are used to digging through IRC logs and mailing lists to solve some esoteric bug that prevents their Linux install from working. For ordinary people, it's woefully inadequate support.

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. . . Monsanto, and a lot of other US companies that export stuff would be in a whole lot of trouble.  Well, maybe I don't mind that much about Monsanto. 

 

I was thinking Monsanto was Swiss! But sure enough, based in St. Louis. "Roundup" herbicide is a good old American creation -- I'm saddened we have no one to blame it on but ourselves.

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LOL!

One of my favorite Fandroid memes in these forums is the "Android users are l33t" meme, which assumes all Android users are more tech savvy than the average iOS user because they root their own phone and would never download Android malware or virus so it must not be a real problem for the platform.

Google's "go google the help forums" idea of customer service is a DIY solution suited only to tech savvy users who are used to digging through IRC logs and mailing lists to solve some esoteric bug that prevents their Linux install from working. For ordinary people, it's woefully inadequate support.

Google doesn't make phones, if you have a problem with your Nexus 5 you contact LG. That being said I have never had a problem contacting Google's support, their very friendly and helpful. When was the last time you talked with their customer service?

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Reminds me of an article I read awhile back. It spoke of the technology company graveyard and how it was filled with companies ran by executives who didn't know the difference between market share and profit. Attempting to continually increase market share while sacrificing profits leads to poor product quality and design. Poor customer service. Returned product. Failed company without enough money to continue business. The assets are purchased and many times the once high flying brand name appears as a special promotion. Compaq or Gateway anyone?

Reminds me of googles own graveyard:

http://www.slate.com/articles/technology/map_of_the_week/2013/03/google_reader_joins_graveyard_of_dead_google_products.html
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Google doesn't make phones, if you have a problem with your Nexus 5 you contact LG. That being said I have never had a problem contacting Google's support, their very friendly and helpful. When was the last time you talked with their customer service?

The first Nexus One was originally sold and serviced entirely over the web by Google. There wasn't anyone you could call--support was entirely online, and no retail partners sold, services, or supported the handset's customer initially. Sounds like they pulled their heads out of their asses. That's good.

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I just read that article. It was was an ad for reasons to BUY an iPad. Despite the headline the article was vastly pro apple. Idk if it was intentional on the writers side to do that but that article was a +1 for iPad

It wouldn't be expected to be an anti or pro-Apple article. I've always perceived Ars to be as un-biased and fair a site as any I can think of.

Biased in favour of technical art? 😉
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Good editorial. I thought you dissembled all the controversies that I could think of. I particularly enjoyed the paragraph where Samsung were furiously flinging tablet spaghetti at the wall.

What struck me was watching the clip of Steve Jobs introducing the iPad. One of the figures flashed on screen was '125 million accounts with credit cards.' In four short years, that figure is now over 800 million. Astounding! That's over 500% growth. That, to me, more than anything, exemplifies Apple's moat.
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post #53 of 56

that is a great website, I never realize google had so many public failures, I know you have to through a lot of ideas at the wall to see which on stick, but most successful company hide more of the idea flinging and do not let them go pubic.

 

I think googel gets away with it since it is just software, image if they were a hardware company than threw this many ideas out in the wilds of the public and have them fail like this. The will be backup up lots of garbage truck at google to clean up the mess.

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Funny to see an imminent (?) Google Glass there.

Strange they didn't sort the graves by year deceased, or by name.
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that is a great website, I never realize google had so many public failures, I know you have to through a lot of ideas at the wall to see which on stick, but most successful company hide more of the idea flinging and do not let them go pubic.

I think googel gets away with it since it is just software, image if they were a hardware company than threw this many ideas out in the wilds of the public and have them fail like this. The will be backup up lots of garbage truck at google to clean up the mess.

Many of those, maybe even most, were rolled into/combined with other Google services. So at least some were not so much failures as better when part of another service.
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post #56 of 56
IDC has zero credibility any more. They have not provider credible estimates in the last 2 years. They act more like paid by Apple competitors and mere Astroturfers.
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