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The latest Apple software to receive a Jony Ive-led user interface revamp is the company's Apple TV operating system, which sports an iOS 7-style "flat" look with new icons and updated typography in the latest beta.




Each of the default icons has been reworked with a more modern veneer, eschewing the now-defunct iOS "gloss" effects for a matte appearance. The background starburst effect has also given way to gradients that match those found in iOS 7.

The pictographs themselves have also been made more sleek. The "Settings" icon underwent the most radical change, gaining the same nested gears icon found in Apple's newest mobile and desktop operating systems.

In addition, the weight of the typeface is slightly thinner and icons no longer cast reflections. Finally, the "glow" surrounding the currently-selected icon has been tightened up to include a more defined white ring offset by a small black margin.




Overall, however, the Apple TV user interface paradigm remains largely unchanged from its debut in 2007. Rumors of an all-new Apple TV have been circulating for years, and picked up steam in 2011 following the publication of Steve Jobs's autobiography in which the late Apple CEO was quoted as saying he had "finally cracked" the television problem.

Those rumors came to a head in early 2014, as numerous media outlets suggested that a refresh was imminent, though none materialized. More recent reports have signaled that Apple's new set-top solution has been stalled as negotiations with content providers drag on.
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I'm not a fan of Computers" being a button/channel. I have an iTunes Server that I always access with my Apple TV but I have to jump through extra steps to get there. Just let me put my iTS Movies and iTS TV Shows channels on the main page.

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Is this still 3rd Gen only?
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Is this still 3rd Gen only?

 

All previous updates have been 2nd AND 3rd gen. There is no reason to believe this won’t be the same.

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Finally!
Once they get around I hope they'll open the new content store for old units. There are so many Apple TV's out there it's a mystery they haven't pushed it more..
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The @TV interface has become more and more annoying to use.... it was cool seven years ago when first introduced, but it now looks pathetically dated. (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

 

The main thing going for it is that it only costs $99.

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(For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

I don't understand this desire.

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(For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

 

There is... hold down the play/pause button for about 5 seconds...

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I'm not a fan of Computers" being a button/channel. I have an iTunes Server that I always access with my Apple TV but I have to jump through extra steps to get there. Just let me put my iTS Movies and iTS TV Shows channels on the main page.

100% agree. And also having the ability to search my library from the Apple TV via the keyboard on the remote app would be nice as well. Much quicker than manually searching through 800+ movies.
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You can turn it off by holding down the Play/Pause button. You have to be in the main menu for it to work. You can get to the main menu from anywhere by holding down the menu button. 

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I designed software for a lot of years.  This news, to my mind, suggests that Apple is in the process of making significant changes to AppleTV, a first step of which is to simply apply the same design language to the existing UI, to be followed by the actual reworking of that UI and associated functionality, which Apple is undoubtedly doing behind the scenes and away from the visible beta program.  

 

If there's any product in Apple's suite that would benefit from a major refresh during the holiday season, it's AppleTV.  I'm hoping that's what we;re getting hints of here.

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(For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

I don't understand this desire.

I guess you don't mind the 7 - 10 button presses typically needed to get it to sleep?

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anantksundaram 08/04/2014 03:48 PM (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

There is: just hold down the Play/Pause button on the remote and it will shut the AppleTv off.
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All previous updates have been 2nd AND 3rd gen. There is no reason to believe this won’t be the same.

Not according to this AI story.
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I don't understand this desire.
Simple concept actually. Some one would like to turn something off when they're done using it. Make sense to me.
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I guess you don't mind the 7 - 10 button presses typically needed to get it to sleep?

1) You originally stated "turn the damn thing off" not sleep.

2) I hit one button to get it to sleep. I pause the video or go back to the menu and it will auto-sleep in a few minutes. I think once I switch the HDTV's input the Apple TV it will go to sleep even sooner.

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Signaled? surely, signalled!
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And I hope Jony can get rid of the gloss on the Cinema Display as well. The glossy screen is unsuitable for professional uses in anywhere but a perfectly dark room.

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2) I hit one button to get it to sleep. I pause the video or go back to the menu and it will auto-sleep in a few minutes. I think once I switch the HDTV's input the Apple TV it will go to sleep even sooner.

I did not know that. Will try it. Wish I had known this seven years ago.....

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Signaled? surely, signalled!

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I designed software for a lot of years.  This news, to my mind, suggests that Apple is in the process of making significant changes to AppleTV, a first step of which is to simply apply the same design language to the existing UI, to be followed by the actual reworking of that UI and associated functionality, which Apple is undoubtedly doing behind the scenes and away from the visible beta program.  

If there's any product in Apple's suite that would benefit from a major refresh during the holiday season, it's AppleTV.  I'm hoping that's what we;re getting hints of here.
I hope you're right and it comes this fall. Would make a great Christmas gift for a lot of people. 1smile.gif
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What much a do about nothing
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Signaled? surely, signalled!

Nope. Both are correct. Just like "all right" and "alright". Spelling nazi fail.
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I did not know that. Will try it. Wish I had known this seven years ago.....

According to this link it appears you can hold the Pause/Play button for a few seconds to get it to Sleep. But also noted in the thread is that the Apple uses so little power when in idle before it goes to sleep that it's not an issue.

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I don't understand this desire.

Yeah me neither. You just turn off your TV. The AppleTV automatically goes to sleep after a configurable time has elapsed if you're not playing anything.. No "power" button increases simplicity.

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I really wish Apple would get beyond this. The future of TV isn't Apps on a screen, it's fragmented to the point of uselessness. If they release an App Store for AppleTV I'm bailing.

I wish the ghost of Steve Jobs would scare some common sense back into Apple.
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post #26 of 85
Thinner fonts, exactly what I'd been wishing for on my TV!

But seriously, obviously this is a minor uplift while they work on a complete retooling of the UI.
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Thank goodness that blue glow highlighting the selected icon is going away - I was often losing track of it. The white outline is a step in the right direction, but I'd prefer something even more noticeable.

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I really wish Apple would get beyond this. The future of TV isn't Apps on a screen, it's fragmented to the point of uselessness. If they release an App Store for AppleTV I'm bailing.

I wish the ghost of Steve Jobs would scare some common sense back into Apple.
Unlike you I bailed due to lack of an App Store. There is no local content outside of the US, it's a piss poor joke of a situation.
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The @TV interface has become more and more annoying to use.... it was cool seven years ago when first introduced, but it now looks pathetically dated. (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

 

The main thing going for it is that it only costs $99.

You must be using an AppleTV1, because the current UI interface is only 2 years plus a few months old.  It was released in March 2012 with the 3rd Gen model, and worked with the 2nd gen model, but excluded the first gen model (because the first gen was a Pentium CPU, not an A4/A5 CPU).  Go into Settings and choose the time delay required to put the AppleTV to sleep.  It will sleep in as little as 15 minutes with no activity.  No need to force it off when it will sleep on its own.  If you still have a first gen model, maybe you should upgrade because the new units are completely silent and draw very little power.

post #30 of 85
Rather sick of this "flat" look. It's bad on the iPhone and I shudder to think of it in OS X Yosemite and now it's slinking its way into Apple TV.

Johhny Ive should stick to hardware design. Software is not his fortè.
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Rather sick of this "flat" look. It's bad on the iPhone and I shudder to think of it in OS X Yosemite and now it's slinking its way into Apple TV.

Johhny Ive should stick to hardware design. Software is not his fortè.

Like it or not, it's here to stay so you might as well get used to it. I'm sure Jony I've isn't the only one who has a day in what things looks like.
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I'm not a fan of Computers" being a button/channel. I have an iTunes Server that I always access with my Apple TV but I have to jump through extra steps to get there. Just let me put my iTS Movies and iTS TV Shows channels on the main page.

Great idea! :)

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Thinner fonts, exactly what I'd been wishing for on my TV!

But seriously, obviously this is a minor uplift while they work on a complete retooling of the UI.

I've always liked thinner fonts and was using thinner fonts way back in 1998....and that's just about where all similarities btwn Apple and I begin and end! :)

 

Best! 

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Yeah me neither. You just turn off your TV. The AppleTV automatically goes to sleep after a configurable time has elapsed if you're not playing anything.. No "power" button increases simplicity.


But... I use a HDMI switcher (cheaper than upgrading my otherwise perfectly good receiver) that will automatically switch to an active HDMI input. I have a blu-ray, HD-DVD, Roku, AppleTV, and a cable box. Neither the Roku nor AppleTV turn off, so I have to manually switch inputs on my switch which I could avoid if either the AppleTV or Roku had a power-off option.

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(For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

The Apple TV has a 6-watt power supply. Actual power consumption is around 4 watts or less. At $0.10 per kWh, that's $3.50 per year at most for electricity to run it if it were on and playing a movie 24 hours power day, 365 day per year. Holding the center SELECT button for >5 seconds puts it to sleep immediately or you can set the interval between 15 minutes and 10 hours to sleep automatically. Like most every other electronic device, the Apple TV never really goes completely "off" unless you unplug it from the wall. If your home has an AC-powered door bell or AC-powered smoke detectors, those devices use more electricity than your Apple TV does - even when nobody is ringing the doorbell and nothing is on fire. :)

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How about giving another option for color besides white text on black background? That pallet choice is destructive to your vision.
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to each his own, I couldn't disagree with this more. I Found skeomorphism and thick fonts to be hideous. 

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Like it or not, it's here to stay so you might as well get used to it. I'm sure Jony I've isn't the only one who has a day in what things looks like.
Exactly. Last time I checked Apple employs thousands of software engineers. Are we really to believe Ive is the only one who has a say in software design? And if Ive was mandating the UI look and software designers and engineers didn't agree with him wouldn't we have heard about it now? Either by employees leaving or complaining to Cook?
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But... I use a HDMI switcher (cheaper than upgrading my otherwise perfectly good receiver) that will automatically switch to an active HDMI input. I have a blu-ray, HD-DVD, Roku, AppleTV, and a cable box. Neither the Roku nor AppleTV turn off, so I have to manually switch inputs on my switch which I could avoid if either the AppleTV or Roku had a power-off option.

In the top menu hold the select button for a few seconds to put the AppleTV to sleep.  Roku... I have no idea.

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Hold down the Menu button for 2 seconds to return to the top menu (if not already there).

Then hold down the Play/Pause button for 2 seconds to sleep the device.

 

It's not perfect – you have to get back to the top menu.  But it is workable, and you can do it without the screen being on.

 

The one thing to note is that you have to return to the top menu, and be below the icons at the very top (the row that shows new releases, or last played items on your computer etc).  It won't sleep if you are on the top icons.  Very annoying.

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