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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

According to this link it appears you can hold the Pause/Play button for a few seconds to get it to Sleep. But also noted in the thread is that the Apple uses so little power when in idle before it goes to sleep that it's not an issue.

Pressing the Play/Pause button to make it go to sleep does not work.

 

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You must be using an AppleTV1, because the current UI interface is only 2 years plus a few months old.  It was released in March 2012 with the 3rd Gen model, and worked with the 2nd gen model, but excluded the first gen model (because the first gen was a Pentium CPU, not an A4/A5 CPU).  Go into Settings and choose the time delay required to put the AppleTV to sleep.  It will sleep in as little as 15 minutes with no activity.  No need to force it off when it will sleep on its own.  If you still have a first gen model, maybe you should upgrade because the new units are completely silent and draw very little power.

Mine are 3rd gen. I will try this out. Thanks. (Add: The software is fully updated).


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post #42 of 85
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Hold down the Menu button for 2 seconds to return to the top menu (if not already there).

Then hold down the Play/Pause button for 2 seconds to sleep the device.

 

It's not perfect – you have to get back to the top menu.  But it is workable, and you can do it without the screen being on.

 

The one thing to note is that you have to return to the top menu, and be below the icons at the very top (the row that shows new releases, or last played items on your computer etc).  It won't sleep if you are on the top icons.  Very annoying.

Ah.... that's what the problem was. And yes, annoying.

post #43 of 85
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I guess you don't mind the 7 - 10 button presses typically needed to get it to sleep?


Holding the Pause/Play button for two seconds puts the Apple TV to sleep.

 

Edit: I have just seen your latest post. Which Gen ATV do you have? If it's 2 or 3, may be worth doing a software restore on it.

post #44 of 85
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Originally Posted by Suddenly Newton View Post

Yeah me neither. You just turn off your TV. The AppleTV automatically goes to sleep after a configurable time has elapsed if you're not playing anything.. No "power" button increases simplicity.

I am sure rules/values differ from one household to another, and are very subjective, but in mine, the kids have been taught from a young age to turn off/put to sleep all electric/electronic devices after use. No exceptions.

post #45 of 85
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Holding the Pause/Play button for two seconds puts the Apple TV to sleep.

No, it does not. See Post #34 above.

post #46 of 85
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And also having the ability to search my library from the Apple TV via the keyboard on the remote app would be nice as well. Much quicker than manually searching through 800+ movies.


You can already do that. Once you are in the “computers” section on the remote app, there is a search button in the row of icons along the bottom of the screen.

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The Apple TV has a 6-watt power supply. Actual power consumption is around 4 watts or less.

Typical AppleTV power usage is between 1 and 2 watts when active.
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post #47 of 85
So it's ugly and harder to read like the rest of Apple's "new" design changes... Yay.
post #48 of 85
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The @TV interface has become more and more annoying to use.... it was cool seven years ago when first introduced, but it now looks pathetically dated. (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

The main thing going for it is that it only costs $99.
I haven't read all the replies, but...

1) I believe there is a single key sleep mode. Play/Pause for five seconds? I haven't used it in a while. If memory serves, you need to be on the home screen to make it work. Shortcut to get there? Hold the menu button down in an app and it will exit to the home screen.

2) The Apple TV—at least recent models, not sure if this feature is relevant to iteration—will put itself to sleep after a period of inactivity. Hence this isn't something to battle with anyway. Just turn everything else off when you're done watching and go on with your day. When you want to watch again, press a button on the remote and it will wake from sleep. You can also manage it with a Logitech remote if it resides in an entertainment system governed by one.

There are some other innocuous (which is to say non-obvious and not introduced in use) shortcuts and features covered in some predictably named articles that might be recovered through a Google search.
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
I'm not a fan of Computers" being a button/channel. I have an iTunes Server that I always access with my Apple TV but I have to jump through extra steps to get there. Just let me put my iTS Movies and iTS TV Shows channels on the main page.

 

Cosmo Kramer PLEASE PLEASE.alac

 

Originally Posted by dysamoria View Post
So it’s ugly and harder to read…


Just like your posts.

post #50 of 85

Will have to bail soon if no app store. Need store for app to watch Thai TV (subscription service) and go to Roku. AppleTV is mostly a glorified Netflix box for us.

post #51 of 85
With the updated background how do I turn on the parallax effect? /s
post #52 of 85
Everyone KNOWS that it's just a matter of time before a major update is released, I wish they'd just get on with it.

- New "channels" are being added every 60-90 days
- SJ talked about it as a next big thing
- It finally got it's own Apple store category
- Apple bought PrimeSense for some reason, not just because they had pocket change floating around
- They stopped referring to it as a hobby
- Everyone knows they were working with TWC when Comcast bought them
- and now it's got a UI update

That they have huge plans for the AppleTV is maybe their worst kept secret ever and I'm getting tired of waiting.
post #53 of 85
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With the updated background how do I turn on the parallax effect? /s

It's already on, you just have to shake your TV to really notice it.

post #54 of 85

There seems to be a lot of underestimating of how complicated solving the TV problem really is. Just having an app store isn't the only thing that having a future platform really entails. Long term and expensive agreements with rights holders determine the level of access we get. Google tried with their original approaches with Google TV to go past certain aspects of what is holding TV back and they failed because cable and satellite companies weren't having any of that. The new Google TV now is just a screen of apps, which is essentially where Apple TV is.

 

It is going to take a lot of work to really take TV to the next level and when you look at the strangle hold that cable, satellite and rights holders have, I wouldn't be surprised if it never gets solved. There is so much control and money at stake that it is so tough.

post #55 of 85
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Originally Posted by curmi View Post
 

Hold down the Menu button for 2 seconds to return to the top menu (if not already there).

Then hold down the Play/Pause button for 2 seconds to sleep the device.

 

It's not perfect – you have to get back to the top menu.  But it is workable, and you can do it without the screen being on.

 

The one thing to note is that you have to return to the top menu, and be below the icons at the very top (the row that shows new releases, or last played items on your computer etc).  It won't sleep if you are on the top icons.  Very annoying.

This works! (On any of the top menu icons except the top row, as you say. But even if on the top row, continuing to press and hold the Menu button takes you to one of the rows right below, and that, in turn suffices.). Thank you.

post #56 of 85
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Originally Posted by dysamoria View Post

So it's ugly and harder to read like the rest of Apple's "new" design changes... Yay.
Have you used it yet?
post #57 of 85
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The @TV interface has become more and more annoying to use.... it was cool seven years ago when first introduced, but it now looks pathetically dated. (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

 

The main thing going for it is that it only costs $99.

Pro tip: hold "menu" for two seconds to jump back to the home screen, tap down (to ensure the cursor is not on the top row) then hold "play/pause" for 2 seconds. boom.

 

It sounds convoluted but it's actually simple enough you can do it with the display off. It was one of the first things I learned to do with my Apple TV.

post #58 of 85
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I am sure rules/values differ from one household to another, and are very subjective, but in mine, the kids have been taught from a young age to turn off/put to sleep all electric/electronic devices after use. No exceptions.

 

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post #59 of 85

-Universal Search that goes across all apps (Like TiVo's)- and is accessible via typing or speech.  TiVo's is the only streamer that has universal search, but there isn't a streamer with universal search via speech.  This would be monumental.

-Safari (strictly for hotel/internet wifi connection)

-App Store with guidelines that include no content purchasing option and include integrated universal search if a media app.

 

 

I don't ask for much Apple.... I'm even fine with the UI if that other stuff happens.  Sure- there are some annoyances, but I'm willing to look past your few flaws.  I BEG OF YOU!!!

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post #60 of 85

It's not the icons that need any overhaul- it's the whole software OS.

 
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post #61 of 85
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It's not the icons that need any overhaul- it's the whole software OS.

Yes, because it's not just the UI that's shut but the entire OS right down to the OS X core and Darwin¡

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post #62 of 85
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Welcome to the 21st Century. Do you like it here?

Oh yes. Except for the occasional blowhard internet jerk....
post #63 of 85
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Originally Posted by RadarTheKat View Post

I designed software for a lot of years.  This news, to my mind, suggests that Apple is in the process of making significant changes to AppleTV, a first step of which is to simply apply the same design language to the existing UI, to be followed by the actual reworking of that UI and associated functionality, which Apple is undoubtedly doing behind the scenes and away from the visible beta program.  

If there's any product in Apple's suite that would benefit from a major refresh during the holiday season, it's AppleTV.  I'm hoping that's what we;re getting hints of here.

I hope not. Don't redesign the UI, lose it. Rework the Apple Remote to be a service aggregator, maybe produce a 6" dedicated Apple Remote product but kill the UI.
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post #64 of 85
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Oh yes. Except for the occasional blowhard internet jerk....

Yeah but whatareya gonna do

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post #65 of 85
Very cool, seems my Apple TV, iPhone & iPads are all going to have the same look & UI feel
post #66 of 85
"Simple concept actually. Some one would like to turn something off when they're done using it. Make sense to me."

You know can set it to go to sleep after a certain period of no activity in settings. It uses 0.8 watts when asleep.
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You know can set it to go to sleep after a certain period of no activity in settings. It uses 0.8 watts when asleep.

So we're talking 0.8 Watts per hour × 24 hours × 365 days for 7.008 kWh per year? Correct?

This site below states that the average in the US is 12¢ per kWhr so we're talking 7.008 × 12 cents for a grand total of 84¢ per year. That's nearly double the cost to charge an iPhone per year but well under their stated average of 908 kWh per month or 10,896 kWh per year.

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post #68 of 85
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I guess you don't mind the 7 - 10 button presses typically needed to get it to sleep?
You don't mind to just set it to sleep at 15' inactivity. No button press needed
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post #69 of 85
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So it's ugly and harder to read like the rest of Apple's "new" design changes... Yay.
Yes, and >92% iOS users are on this "ugly" design, so the thing is damn successful... Live with it.
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Pro tip: hold "menu" for two seconds to jump back to the home screen, tap down (to ensure the cursor is not on the top row) then hold "play/pause" for 2 seconds. boom.

It sounds convoluted but it's actually simple enough you can do it with the display off. It was one of the first things I learned to do with my Apple TV.
set inactivity at 15' and forget about the button press.
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post #71 of 85
Finally! This has been a long time coming.
post #72 of 85
That's awkward... you hold down the Play/Pause button on the remote at the main screen to put it to sleep.
post #73 of 85
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-Safari (strictly for hotel/internet wifi connection)

 

I don't ask for much Apple.... I'm even fine with the UI if that other stuff happens.  Sure- there are some annoyances, but I'm willing to look past your few flaws.  I BEG OF YOU!!!

 

I'm sure you already know this.  I post this for other readers who may not know how to work around the lack of a web browser for using the Apple TV from a hotel room.

 

Most hotels require you to authenticate via a web-page that pops up when you select the hotel network.  Even if it's a free connection, they may want you to enter your room number and last name and they almost always require that you click on "I agree" to make sure you will comply with the terms of service.  Since Apple TV doesn't include any kind of built-in web-browser, it is impossible to see or respond to these sign on messages.

 

To get around this:

1.  Call the front desk and ask them for the phone number for the "internet support people".

2.  Navigate to Settings->General->Network and note the Wi-Fi Address (MAC address).

3.  Call the internet support people and tell them you want them to authorize a device using its MAC address.

4.  Give them the Wi-Fi Address from step 2 when they ask.

5.  Ask them if they can authorize it for the entire duration of your stay.  (Some may require you to phone in every day)

6.  If they won't authorize it for the entire length of your stay, or if you will be staying at this hotel again in the future; ask them for the support ticket number so when you call back in to authorize it again, you can just give them the ticket number and they will know what to do,

 

One additional hotel tip:

Some hotels try to disable the HDMI ports on the in-room televisions so that you will be forced to purchase movie from the hotel at ridiculous prices.  They will also provide a custom remote control that doesn't have the button on it to switch to HDMI-1.  If that's the case, look at the back of the TV.  The device which disables the external inputs usually connects via an RJ-45 connector (looks like a network jack).  Unplug this and the restrictions should be eliminated.  If the TV remote is non-standard, look for the controls on the side of the TV.  There should be one labeled 'Input'.  Press this to cycle through the inputs until you find the one that you plugged the Apple TV into

 

I second the request for the inclusion of Safari in a future update.

post #74 of 85

A continuity feature I would like to see added to the Apple TV is the ability for the Apple TV to become a streaming source in my home.  Kind of like a reverse-airplay capability.

 

 I would like to connect to my Apple TV with any of my iOS devices or PC's and MacBook's within my home and connect to a live stream of whatever happens to be currently playing on the Apple TV - or possibly a stream of anything that it is capable of playing. 

 

One of my use cases would be during family movie night.  This capability would allow me to grab my iPad, connect to the live stream and then leave the TV room to go use the restroom or prepare a snack in the kitchen without forcing the rest of the family to pause the movie and without missing any of the action.  Some days it might be nice to watch something outside on the deck instead of in the home theater in the basement.  I know that most of the Apple TV content is also available via iOS apps, but it would be more convenient if I didn't have to download and sign in to them all individually when I've already done so on the Apple TV.  And this way multiple family members could watch the program in-sync with each other instead of being at different positions during playback.

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`I use my Apple TV a lot, and it is useful, but get really frustrated with the laborious effort needed to key information into it, 'Stone-age 'tools  in a high tech piece of equipment? That surely shouldn't be!

post #76 of 85
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Originally Posted by anantksundaram View Post

The @TV interface has become more and more annoying to use.... it was cool seven years ago when first introduced, but it now looks pathetically dated. (For instance, I wish there was simple way to press and hold a button in the remote to turn the damn thing off.)

The main thing going for it is that it only costs $99.

There is a way.:
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3176
What I wish is for the remote to control volume and TV input..
post #77 of 85
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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post

I'm not a fan of Computers" being a button/channel. I have an iTunes Server that I always access with my Apple TV but I have to jump through extra steps to get there. Just let me put my iTS Movies and iTS TV Shows channels on the main page.

One of the many who agree with you. The computers app is redundant. It *should be* like any other Apple iOS device. You put in your Apple ID and it syncs all your data on your Mac. Photos, podcasts, TV shows, movies, music should all be an extension of your Mac or Apple ID account. Not to mention the nam "computers" suggestion you could have multiple computers connected and searchable simultaneously. Bit no, it doesn't. You have to sign out of one and sign in with another, so it should be "Computer", and buried in the Setting App.
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`I use my Apple TV a lot, and it is useful, but get really frustrated with the laborious effort needed to key information into it, 'Stone-age 'tools  in a high tech piece of equipment? That surely shouldn't be!

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post #79 of 85
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Unlike you I bailed due to lack of an App Store. There is no local content outside of the US, it's a piss poor joke of a situation.

That's not really Apple's fault, content-wise. It has everything to do with the agreement between Apple and the content providers. If the providers (big media) doesn't want to offer content outside of the USA then they won't allow it. And the ATV isn't the only STB that is in this boat.

As for App Store..,I hear ya. However if an App Store is in the works, what would you suggest it carry? And how do you do the UI for apps? You can Airplay you iOS device to the ATV and use all the apps you want. I'm getting pretty tired of people arguing for an App Store when they don't really think through what that actually means and how it would be implemented. Do you really want to use your tv like any other iOS device? And how do you control it without and iOS device. And if you have an iOS device you can Airplay, and you prolly won't be using your tv to view he content since you have to look down at your iOS device to use the UI. It really, really complex problem to solve. If SJ says he cracked it, maybe he was on to something, maybe it fizzled out? Maybe Apple is waiting for more integrated and extensive content rights to update the ATV. Who knows...but to many this minor update is just to either piss people off who are waiting for a real update or a way to keep normal people something nice and new to look at.

Personally I think the ATV with all it's billion channels is very long in the tooth now and needs a better way. Just listen to Siracusa's rants on it for details. For me, once the apps start scrolling of f screen, they loose me. I have about 75% of the new channels hidden now because they all take a cable subscription to work, which I cut my cable TV a year ago and exclusively use netflix, hulu+ and iTunes for all my daily content...haven't looked back yet.
post #80 of 85

Couldn't agree more. This is starting to look more like cutesy Windows icons every day.

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