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50,000,000 Samdung Note Phones were sold in the past 2 years.

The market for phablets is way too big to ignore.
That is my proof. 
Ah, so now we're supposed to believe Samsung sales figures. lol.gif
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Interesting take on the uselessness of small tablets. I approve.

I have iPad 2 and retina mini and love them both. The mini is perfectly sized for most of my needs.
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if 5.5 is released I might just get that, and sell the iPad

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Please do and leave this forum. As one with developer access to the operating system and having tracked it development since day one I can honestly say you are full of crap! IOS has been expanding at a considerable rate challenging developers to keep up.

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I love Apple's hardware (current iPhone and iPad owner) but iOS is seriously lacking behind and the company seems unable to fix age old issues, add much requested features and innovate like they used to do. iOS7 was a gimicky step back, unstable and several system apps were gimped by crappy design decisions. Keeping my iPad Air but seriously considering switching to a Android phone like Xperia Z2.
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50,000,000 Samdung Note Phones were sold in the past 2 years.

The market for phablets is way too big to ignore.
That is my proof. 

In case you're out of touch Samsung is on the ropes their large phones have not been well received at all. The reason is simple they are simply too big to carry around for most people. phablets are a phab 1wink.gif Ask around and see how many of those Notes actually left the stores.
post #46 of 173
There's a breaking news report from about 6 hours ago of another aluminum dust explosion at a Chinese metal finishing plant killing 75 people. That factory is producing parts for GM but because the Chinese government is said to have put an emergency halt to all similar aluminum production including those at Foxconn facilities the iPhone 6 may see delays now due to the accident. It's still early tho so the impact on Apple's next smartphone isn't entirely clear.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iphone-6-release-expected-be-delayed-following-chinese-factory-explosion-1459840

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post #47 of 173
I think people missed a bit in the parsing of this article. It referenced the two iPhone sizes AND a new form factor. Could this mean that iWatch is a new cell phone, or does Apple have something else up its sleeves? Maybe a folder?
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Originally Posted by Gatorguy View Post
…so the impact on Apple’s next smartphone isn't entirely clear.

 

It’s obvious, at least, that it was Apple’s fault. If they just made products out of plastic instead of aluminum, this never would have happened.

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Learn to read for content, that was not a Foxconn plant. The Foxconn plant is only shut down due to mandatory inspections required after this incident.
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There's a braking news report from about 6 hours ago of another aluminum dust explosion at a Foxconn plant killing 75 people. That factory is said to be producing parts for GM but because the Chinese government is said to have put an emergency halt to all similar aluminum production at Foxconn facilities the iPhone 6 may see delays now due to the accident. It's still early tho so the impact on Apple's next smartphone isn't entirely clear.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/iphone-6-release-expected-be-delayed-following-chinese-factory-explosion-1459840
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Learn to read for content, that was not a Foxconn plant. The Foxconn plant is only shut down due to mandatory inspections required after this incident.

Thanks. I had already gone back to correct as well as braking to breaking. 1embarassed.gif
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According to the re/code article: Apple declined comment.

Until Dalrymple says 'Not Likely' I'll live with a Mossberg minion's statement as 'stronger than rumor'

post #52 of 173
Further clarification:

The accident actually took place two days ago, with Foxconn's similar metal polishing now halted by the government until their procedures can be examined and any required changes put in place.
http://www.globaltimes.cn/content/874070.shtml
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post #53 of 173
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I think people missed a bit in the parsing of this article. It referenced the two iPhone sizes AND a new form factor. Could this mean that iWatch is a new cell phone, or does Apple have something else up its sleeves? Maybe a folder?
iWatch will be a ring that controls the new Apple TV.
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...Chinese government is said to have put an emergency halt to all similar aluminum production including those at Foxconn facilities the iPhone 6 may see delays now due to the accident. 

If the iPhone 6 uses a liquid metal case as some of the leaked photos suggest, perhaps there is no aluminum being polished by Foxconn for Apple, hence no delay.

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Isn't it a bit interesting that we don't have Wall Street analysts and other talking heads going on and on about how Apple needs a low cost iPhone? That's all anyone talked about last year. Now crickets. Did they finally get religion?
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If the iPhone 6 uses a liquid metal case ....

My portfolio hopes and prays that this rumor comes true...... :D

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4.7" this 5.5" that....where's my 4" iPhone?

I don't think we should assume that the current form factor will be discontinued, at least not in the near future. If demand for it peters away in favor of a larger iPhone, then that's a decision that can be taken at the time.

Good point. Can't see the 4" disappear myself. Further, I think even with a 4.7" screen iPhone they would update the current 4" screen model with new innards. Or at least, I hope so.


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If the iPhone 6 uses a liquid metal case as some of the leaked photos suggest, perhaps there is no aluminum being polished by Foxconn for Apple, hence no delay.

That would be way too large for the use of Liquid Metal.
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You're dreaming of Steve Jobs's style too much. It's his signature keynote presentation and no one else at Apple would want to do that to make the fool of himself. Tim Cook has his own way of presenting keynote by delegating others SVP to present their parts. What you have seen so far under Tim Cooks is the format now, no surprise, no "One More Thing" whatsoever.

Although, 

 

"Can't Innovate, My Ass"

 

is a nice catch phrase;-)  But it's needs a lot of spacing and a real innovation to make it work.

 

Also, Product Releases at WWDC or MacWorld had the Fandom reaction....   'Media Events' are supposed to be filled with dispassionate reporters with pads and pencils....   'One More Thing...' slide is a 'treat' for the consumer, not fodder for the press deadline.   

 

In fact, I liked it better when Apple did the 'One More Thing' as a simple press/product release a week after the event.

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I am really curious how Apple solved the one handed use of 5.5" Display phone. I am not sure how many of you played with a 5.1" Samsung phone, I recently had the chance to use one and could not believe how they claim you can use it one handed.

 

What they have do is calibrate the reach of thumb by moving it back and forth across the display then is shrinks the actual display to the reach of your thumb. What you end up with is a phone with a 5.1" physical display that has been shrunk down to about a 4.5 display with the balance of the display all blacked out. 

 

 

 

This just show you how stupid it is to have a larger display when they have to start doing stuff like this to make it usable, this just demonstrates what Steve Jobs has said, do not ask consumers what they want they have not clue, They ask for things which do not work.

 

This is also another example of technology is a failure and software types think they can fix a hardware issue with software.

 

You know how this discussion went, hey the phone is too big to use one handed and not big enough to put both hands on it comfortably, the software team says we can fix that we just shrink the usable space to size which make it work with one hand.


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Originally Posted by Maestro64 View Post
I am really curious how Apple solved the one handed use of 5.5" Display phone.


By not making one?

 

What you end up with is a phone with a 5.1" physical display that has been shrunk down to about a 4.5 display with the balance of the display all blacked out. 

 

 

Proving, of course, that the display is too large to be used.

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I love Apple's hardware (current iPhone and iPad owner) but iOS is seriously lacking behind and the company seems unable to fix age old issues, add much requested features and innovate like they used to do. iOS7 was a gimicky step back, unstable and several system apps were gimped by crappy design decisions. Keeping my iPad Air but seriously considering switching to a Android phone like Xperia Z2.


I agree, looking at Note 4. Can't deal with this constant ugrading every two years with incremental upgrades from most devices nowadays. Want a phone now that will last me a while now and I get my monies worth out of it.

 

I have a Mac,iPad Air and iPhone 5, looking like i'll miss the 6 as just wider and longer like the change from 3.5 form factor to 4 with no change in how iOS works within the device, unless something changes next month i'll make the switch to the Note 4 and b4 happy. I like both brands despite people arguing over who is better.

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Isn't it a bit interesting that we don't have Wall Street analysts and other talking heads going on and on about how Apple needs a low cost iPhone? That's all anyone talked about last year. Now crickets. Did they finally get religion?

No, no! In punditopia, they need to do both. In order to succeed and expunge their current miserable record of failure, Apple needs to:

A) Emulate the huge screen remedial phones that have seized ~20% of the market (If shipments were sales and beggars would ride...or something), and:

2) Bring out a cheap phone that will make them absolutely no money.

This is the only road to success of the kind that giants like Samsung are enjoying.
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By not making one?

 

Proving, of course, that the display is too large to be used.

 

fortunately most people have 2 hands.

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I agree, looking at Note 4. Can't deal with this constant ugrading every two years with incremental upgrades from most devices nowadays. Want a phone now that will last me a while now and I get my monies worth out of it.

 

I have a Mac,iPad Air and iPhone 5, looking like i'll miss the 6 as just wider and longer like the change from 3.5 form factor to 4 with no change in how iOS works within the device, unless something changes next month i'll make the switch to the Note 4 and b4 happy. I like both brands despite people arguing over who is better.

 

so you grumble about iOS and decide TouchWiz is your savior?

 

Good luck with that.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

fortunately most people have 2 hands.

 

Which, as we know, are available at ALL times, and for ALL uses, to manage your cell phone, regardless of the situation in which you want to use it¡

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I am really curious how Apple solved the one handed use of 5.5" Display phone. I am not sure how many of your played with a 5.1" Samsung phone, I recently had the chance to use one and could not believe how they claim you can use it one handed.
 
This just show you how stupid it is to have a larger display when they have to start doing stuff like this to make it usable, this just demonstrates what Steve Jobs have said do not ask consumers what they want they have not clue, They ask for things which do not work.

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And come September 12th your 4inch iPhone will be $100 cheaper;-)

 

Good it isn't just me that thinks that the first Friday after the proposed unvieling date isn't the 19th that AI mentioned.

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I agree, looking at Note 4. Can't deal with this constant ugrading every two years with incremental upgrades from most devices nowadays. Want a phone now that will last me a while now and I get my monies worth out of it.

 

I have a Mac,iPad Air and iPhone 5, looking like i'll miss the 6 as just wider and longer like the change from 3.5 form factor to 4 with no change in how iOS works within the device, unless something changes next month i'll make the switch to the Note 4 and b4 happy. I like both brands despite people arguing over who is better.

I don't understand your point.  Everything about iOS8 was announced earlier this summer at the WWDC.  Lots of interesting and powerful stuff built in that will allow developers to make great new apps (and update existing apps).  No new hardware required to take advantage of that.  If the next iPhone has hardware features you like, then feel free to upgrade to new hardware.  To get new OS features just wait for the free update option to appear in a month or two.

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Consumers want a faster horse 1wink.gif

 

No, we want sleeker, more stylish buggy whips.

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Originally Posted by malax View Post
Everything about iOS8 was announced earlier this summer at the WWDC.

 

For existing hardware.

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I agree, looking at Note 4. Can't deal with this constant ugrading every two years with incremental upgrades from most devices nowadays. Want a phone now that will last me a while now and I get my monies worth out of it.

Who is making you to upgrade every two years? You. So stop it. Don't blame Apple.

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fortunately most people have 2 hands.

But not always two hands free:



Businessmen carrying their briefcase, shoppers carrying shopping, parents holding their child's hand. Large screens force users to compromise. 4.7" at least isn't significantly wider so you just miss out on a top portion of the display.
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fortunately most people have 2 hands.

Which, as we know, are available at ALL times, and for ALL uses, to manage your cell phone, regardless of the situation in which you want to use it¡

Just let him be; he'll never grasp the issue at hand.
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Originally Posted by AppleInsider View Post

...  a busy fall for the company, which has been particularly quiet thus far through the first seven months of 2014.

 

Get used to that pattern.  Same thing happened last year, IIRC.

 

Going forward, Apple could keep releasing hardware updates late in the year, simply because Q4 is the big holiday selling season and it's best to have your newest products ready for that.  But what about the first half of the year, before WWDC's iOS and OS X previews and before the "big bang" of holiday hardware rollouts?  What could Apple possibly do in the spring, summer, and early fall (aside from Mac speed bumps)?

 

How about announcing content deals and pushing out new apps / channels to Apple TV?  Apple has shown year after year that they're ready to disrupt TV as we know it.  With live streaming, pre-recorded streaming, renting, and purchasing.  And yes, iAd.  All up and running for years.  

 

Interesting that summer is a dead period for traditional TV, with re-runs and all.  Would be the perfect time to roll out new content for Apple TV.  Just a thought.

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I'll wait to see the invitations
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For existing hardware.

What's your point?  The original poster was asking for/expecting changes to the OS with the rollout of the new phone that would convince him to stay with the iPhone.

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I agree, looking at Note 4. Can't deal with this constant ugrading every two years with incremental upgrades from most devices nowadays. Want a phone now that will last me a while now and I get my monies worth out of it.

 

I have a Mac,iPad Air and iPhone 5, looking like i'll miss the 6 as just wider and longer like the change from 3.5 form factor to 4 with no change in how iOS works within the device, unless something changes next month i'll make the switch to the Note 4 and b4 happy. I like both brands despite people arguing over who is better.

 

so you grumble about iOS and decide TouchWiz is your savior?

 

Good luck with that.

He deserves worse: Tizen.

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so you grumble about iOS and decide TouchWiz is your savior?

 

Good luck with that.


Yes I know the supposed issues with touch wiz, but the Note 3 is a beast you cannot deny that. The Note 4 could be even better if some of the rumours emerge with the device. Time will tell, my next phone purchase will be the last for a while, I can't keep feeding these  companies.  

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He deserves worse: Tizen.


No thanks, believe me i'm up to date on the tech side, No need for the sarcasm. Love Apple but far from a sheep, have invested a lot of money with that company. Fact i'm prudent and wise should not make me a laughing stock.

 

I want a phone to last me a while now as stated. Apple holds back of leading the hardware due to margins and need to get people to upgrade and continue to feed their pockets the following year, not angry with that as it's a business. I don't even get a 1080p screen in 2014 with Apple iPhone, The note 4 will allegedly have QHD all though it will be slightly better it would  have that screen say 2-3 years before Apple implements it to their phones,

 

My only issue is Samsungs poor customer service that I have experienced compared to Apples excellent service.  Lets talk, give me reason to stay with Apple since the joke is on me. FYI i'm up to date on whats going on...

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Good it isn't just me that thinks that the first Friday after the proposed unvieling date isn't the 19th that AI mentioned.

In recent years they've announced on a Tuesday and then launched the Friday of the next week. So a 9th reveal would mean a 19th launch based on the last three years.

Here's some info I posted in a different thread the other day, showing number of days from announcement to (US) launch:

171 - iPhone
32 - iPhone 3G
12 - iPhone 3GS
17 - iPhone 4
10 - iPhone 4S
9 - iPhone 5
11 - iPhone 5S
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