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So you take an old cable design from 6 years ago to try and prove your point that Apple makes crap cables? Nice try... You do know they re-designed these many years ago, right?
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I take care of all my possessions. I've never had water damage nor cracked a button, port, screen, anything on my Mac, iPhones, iPad, etc. In this case the problem is Apple. The rule is not thousands of Apple owners all crapping all over their expensive Apple items and then docking Apple stars on their own website due to those actions. Apple makes crap cables.

Good for you, glad to hear you've never spilled anything, smashed anything, cracked anything, on any of your Apple gear. Now if only you can learn to be as nice to your cables. Every single Apple product that's ever come across my desk has had the cables mangled almost beyond recognition. Even those that baby the actual device, torture the cables. This is not Apple's fault, this is sheer stupidity of the consumer.
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As you note, the problem is known and common. You can be an Apple defender and still note that. You just can't be a blind fan boy and ignore it though.

Stupidity is a known and common affliction these days too, just look at the average American consumer, or better yet, your average Congress senator. Enough said.

 

We presume that man gets more intelligent with each generation. I'm not so sure.

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post #42 of 109
Ugh.

They should just put them all in the Refurbished section of the site.
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We presume that man gets more intelligent with each generation. I'm not so sure.
Neither am I, just look at the content on YouTube
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Ugh.

They should just put them all in the Refurbished section of the site.
Some of the new generation Beats designs have gotten much better, especially where sound quality is concerned. The build quality still needs work though, especially on the low to mid-range models.
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We presume that man gets more intelligent with each generation. I'm not so sure.
Neither am I, just look at the content on YouTube

 

I've come to the conclusion that YouTube is geared towards teenagers and children, which makes sense when you look at its owner, Larry Page. It's a shame that it's such a cacophonous mess, though; you can be sure that if Apple were to own it, it would be a pleasant user experience. Vimeo is getting better; I like the interface and absence of ads.

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post #46 of 109
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I've come to the conclusion that YouTube is geared towards teenagers and children, which makes sense when you look at its owner, Larry Page. It's a shame that it's such a cacophonous mess, though; you can be sure that if Apple were to own it, it would be a pleasant user experience. Vimeo is getting better; I like the interface and absence of ads.
So you like Vimeo? I've been debating whether I should sign up for it. I already have the apps on my iOS devices for it, just haven't had the time to explore yet...
post #47 of 109
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If you replace your cables every two months, you clearly don't know to handle electronics, unlike the rest of the human race.

Ah, then why does the cable have just 1 star with 1000 reviews? With virtually every review saying it's frayed at the strain relief? I make electronics for a living, I think I know how to handle them thanks. This is just really bad design, which you are blindly defending. When thousands of people are having the same identical problem, it's not a usage problem, its a design problem, just as Trumptman said. There was a recall on iMacs for a HDD failure, was that the user's fault too? Maybe they were using them too much? And Apple's battery recalls? Maybe the user shouldn't have let the battery charge up to more than 50% so it wouldn't catch fire. Apple isn't perfect, despite what you like to think. Head in sand comes to mind.

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Yeah, wrong. Take better care of your stuff.

Hello fanboy king. Even if you did have a cable fail (which you likely have) you'd never admit it, lest you chastise your beloved Apple.
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Who said anything about me being in a store?

"GET OUT" generally assumes someone is inside somewhere, and since people come to you with these broken cables, my best assumption is a store. Unless your family comes to you with the cables, and you tell them to "GET OUT" which would be equally unpleasant.
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*starts pulling on strain relief point of his Lightning cable*

Weird, seems to be just fine to me, a hell of a lot better and more robust than the ones used on Monster and Beats gear...

Do that a few more times and I can guarantee it'll break.
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Ah, then why does the cable have just 1 star with 1000 reviews? With virtually every review saying it's frayed at the strain relief? I make electronics for a living, I think I know how to handle them thanks. This is just really bad design, which you are blindly defending. When thousands of people are having the same identical problem, it's not a usage problem, its a design problem, just as Trumptman said. There was a recall on iMacs for a HDD failure, was that the user's fault too? Maybe they were using them too much? And Apple's battery recalls? Maybe the user shouldn't have let the battery charge up to more than 50% so it wouldn't catch fire. Apple isn't perfect, despite what you like to think. Head in sand comes to mind.

Does Apple make their own drives? No, they were made by Seagate, and it was Seagate's manufacturing defects, which also included drives outside of Apple's products.

Does Apple make their own batteries? No, they were made by various third-parties, and it was them who discovered the design flaws.

Apple makes their own cables, and people abuse the crap out of them, pure and simple.
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"GET OUT" generally assumes someone is inside somewhere, and since people come to you with these broken cables, my best assumption is a store. Unless your family comes to you with the cables, and you tell them to "GET OUT" which would be equally unpleasant.

So now you're trying to drag my family into this? Nice attempt at hitting below the belt. If anyone from my family comes to me with a mutilated wire, I will chastise them to a lesser degree, and just replace the cable for them. If they do it habitually, I just tell them to start taking better care of them.
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Do that a few more times and I can guarantee it'll break.

*does that a few more times*

Nope, still not broken, nor are the two other 30-pin cables I have in my drawer that are more than 7 years old. Nor is this 6 year old MacBook first-yen MagSafe power adaptor I salvaged from a dead laptop, and the cable is in pretty rough shape...
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Does Apple make their own drives? No, they were made by Seagate, and it was Seagate's manufacturing defects, which also included drives outside of Apple's products.

Does Apple make their own batteries? No, they were made by various third-parties, and it was them who discovered the design flaws.

Apple makes their own cables, and people abuse the crap out of them, pure and simple.

No, but they do make their own plastic MacBook cases and have recalled them.

https://www.apple.com/support/macbook-bottomcase/

They've recalled iPhone 5 buttons that've stopped working they make those

https://www.apple.com/support/iphone5-sleepwakebutton/

They've recalled power adapters and they make those

https://www.apple.com/support/usbadapter/exchangeprogram/

Those are active exchange programs, there have been plenty more in the past, like iBook logic board failure, MagSafe power adapter strain relief failure (linked by someone else previously), and the old "yoyo" power supplies failing again at the strain relief.
Oh hey, I found a list: http://www.elitemactechs.com/apple-recalls.html

Apple isn't perfect.
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So now you're trying to drag my family into this? Nice attempt at hitting below the belt. If anyone from my family comes to me with a mutilated wire, I will chastise them to a lesser degree, and just replace the cable for them. If they do it habitually, I just tell them to start taking better care of them.

No, a simple reference to your family doesn't "drag them into this", I was just trying to work out who you tell to "GET OUT". So if you don't work at a store, it's not your family who comes to you with frayed cables, who does?
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*does that a few more times*

Nope, still not broken, nor are the two other 30-pin cables I have in my drawer that are more than 7 years old.

That's nice for you, if you really were bending it at the strain relief, it'd soon break.

Perhaps you need to put some glasses on, you'll find the strain relief design is completely different on cables more than 5 years old, as is the cable plastic: it's PVC.

If these people treat the cables so badly, surely the same problem should occur with other phone manufacturers? Does it? Not that I can find. And surely they'd treat their phones with equal disrespect, but are there huge swathes of complaints over the phones breaking? Nope.
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Every single Apple product that's ever come across my desk has had the cables mangled almost beyond recognition. Even those that baby the actual device, torture the cables. This is not Apple's fault, this is sheer stupidity of the consumer.

You say people are getting less intelligent, maybe you're included if you can't see that if every cable is mangled, there's a problem with the cables. So absolutely everyone babies the devices and chews up the cables? Of course.
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I've come to the conclusion that YouTube is geared towards teenagers and children, which makes sense when you look at its owner, Larry Page. It's a shame that it's such a cacophonous mess, though; you can be sure that if Apple were to own it, it would be a pleasant user experience. Vimeo is getting better; I like the interface and absence of ads.
So you like Vimeo? I've been debating whether I should sign up for it. I already have the apps on my iOS devices for it, just haven't had the time to explore yet...

I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
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post #51 of 109
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That's nice for you, if you really were bending it at the strain relief, it'd soon break.

Perhaps you need to put some glasses on, you'll find the strain relief design is completely different on cables more than 5 years old, as is the cable plastic: it's PVC.

If these people treat the cables so badly, surely the same problem should occur with other phone manufacturers? Does it? Not that I can find. And surely they'd treat their phones with equal disrespect, but are there huge swathes of complaints over the phones breaking? Nope.
People give cables and ear buds a very far distant thought in comparison to the primary device, I can look everywhere and see that being the case. Please don't tell me you're that naive? Even my wife does that with her Android phone. She babies the devices, but tortures the cables and headphones. So do most people I've seen in my career.

And BTW, USB cables that are used by the other phone makers are of much worse quality, with the connectors and strain relief constantly failing, so this is nothing unique to Apple, and Apple cables are of better overall design. This is coming from a decade of working with and using their gear, right up to the very latest designs.
post #52 of 109
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I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
Cool, will need to give them a shot then, as I'm utterly sick of YouTube and the adolescent stupidity in the videos there, not to mention the mountains of hateful, racist, vile comments that litter the comment sections.
post #53 of 109
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I hate that you have to sign up on the iOS apps. You didn't use to, then they forced it, which was a bad move, in my opinion. They should just integrate it with iCloud so no login is needed. I think you don't need to sign in on the desktop to watch the videos, though.

Other than that, I like it. You can save favourite videos easily, even download if you want to. Playback is much smoother and more consistent than it was even just a few months ago.

Edit: forgot to mention—each day, they handpick a few vids—only about three or four. They're a good variety and much more interesting than the typical dross featured on YouTube.
Cool, will need to give them a shot then, as I'm utterly sick of YouTube and the adolescent stupidity in the videos there, not to mention the mountains of hateful, racist, vile comments that litter the comment sections.

Truly, it's a manifestation of Page and Schmidt (can never remember the name of the other one). It's the same blindness that produced Google Glass.

My goodness, you'll find Vimeo a world away from YouTube! As for the comments section—ditto. They're moderated and civilised.
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post #54 of 109
Originally Posted by Elijahg View Post
Hello fanboy king. Even if you did have a cable fail (which you likely have) you'd never admit it, lest you chastise your beloved Apple.

 

Nah, try again. Just take care of your products. I know what causes failures and I know what doesn’t. Guess which I do.

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post #55 of 109
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I think Apple should lose the "Beats by Dr. Dre" tagline/reference and push the "Beats" name alone. Not write in as the title of the section and not write it on the box or the headphones themselves. Call them Beats. Simple.


Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

 

So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.

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Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

 

So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.

 

He has a degree in street knowledge

The kind of degree you cannot get in college

Boom!

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Originally Posted by SpamSandwich View Post

He has a degree in street knowledge.

 

I had most of the credits necessary for one of those, but I couldn’t fit Bros Before Hoes 403 into my schedule.

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post #58 of 109
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Ugh.

They should just put them all in the Refurbished section of the site.

I bet you havent even heard the new Beats headphones.

Just a popular thing to bash Beats here for some reason.
I wont say why. You already know.
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I had most of the credits necessary for one of those, but I couldn’t fit Bros Before Hoes 403 into my schedule.

That comment is boarder line......... I wont say it

You know it in your heart already.
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Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.

Hmmmmm.....another sketchy comment.

I guess its still alive and well in 2014
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People give cables and ear buds a very far distant thought in comparison to the primary device, I can look everywhere and see that being the case. Please don't tell me you're that naive?

I am careful with a £15 cable, much more than I should have to be. You make assumptions that everyone who owns a cable treats it with disrespect. You're very good at making assumptions, but I see few facts that prove the quality of Apple cables. Though if you can't see that if every cable crossing your desk is mangled, then there is an engineering/design problem, there's little hope that you're able to see if something is quality or not.
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And BTW, USB cables that are used by the other phone makers are of much worse quality, with the connectors and strain relief constantly failing, so this is nothing unique to Apple, and Apple cables are of better overall design. This is coming from a decade of working with and using their gear, right up to the very latest designs.

I don't think I've ever had a non-Apple cable break. Even the super cheap £2 USB ones from eBay.
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Nah, try again. Just take care of your products. I know what causes failures and I know what doesn’t. Guess which I do.

I do take care of them thanks. Saying "nah" doesn't prove you haven't had Apple devices fail. What's your AppleID? I'll get a friend who works in the Apple Store to check your warranty replacement history.
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I am careful with a £15 cable, much more than I should have to be. You make assumptions that everyone who owns a cable treats it with disrespect. You're very good at making assumptions, but I see few facts that prove the quality of Apple cables. Though if you can't see that if every cable crossing your desk is mangled, then there is an engineering/design problem, there's little hope that you're able to see if something is quality or not.

I guess the large pile of old 30-pin cables and Lightning cables, ear buds, and MagSafe power adaptor I have in storage as spares doesn't showcase their cable quality? I don't make assumptions, I speak from personal, wide-ranging field experience, and I stand by that 110%.
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I don't think I've ever had a non-Apple cable break. Even the super cheap £2 USB ones from eBay.
Funny that you seem to state the exact opposite of what I say... I have a bin full of USB2.0 certified wires that are all destroyed at the strain relief point (lost count after the first dozen). Please don't tell me non-Apple cables don't break more, because that's pure BS.
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That comment is boarder line......... I wont say it

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You still here?

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post #64 of 109
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I guess the large pile of old 30-pin cables and Lightning cables, ear buds, and MagSafe power adaptor I have in storage as spares doesn't showcase their cable quality? I don't make assumptions, I speak from personal, wide-ranging field experience, and I stand by that 110%.
No, it doesn't, I have old 30 pin connectors too that I've never even used.
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Funny that you seem to state the exact opposite of what I say... I have a bin full of USB2.0 certified wires that are all destroyed at the strain relief point (lost count after the first dozen). Please don't tell me non-Apple cables don't break more, because that's pure BS.
Yeah fancy that, and i'm able to back up my statements with facts, you haven't once. Where's the proof that Apple cables break less?
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Asking someone for their Apple ID could be considered a phishing attempt... I will keep my Apple ID to myself thank you very much. I don't need to prove anything to you, I have enough proof starring me in the face right now, on top of the nearly two decades experience under my belt with this matter.

Considered by whom? I wasn't asking you anyway, even though AppleIDs are usually email addresses.

You can't provide proof because you have none. And besides, it was one decade of experience in a previous post. That was a quick decade.

Why didn't you reply to my post regarding all Apple's repair programs? Couldn't you find a good excuse for each one?

Like I said before, I love Apple's designs and OS X, iOS couldn't be better, but at times they produce a bad design. All companies do. If everything was perfect straight off the bat then we'd never get any design changes. But we do: Apple changes the designs to provide improvements over the previous design, meaning the previous design wasn't perfect and the newer is closer to perfection. The cables are a good example of poor design.

I won't blindly defend something if I know it to be poor, and just because you haven't experienced the same problem doesn't mean others haven't. Despite you being adamant, It also doesn't mean its the fault of the user. I guess you think people who are born with a disease are themselves to blame because you don't have the same disease? It must be something they've done/not done!
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LOL, what a train wreck.

 

:lol:

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Steve is turning over in his grave seeing those pills accessories. 1embarassed.gif

wait -- the same steve that released the IPOD SOCK?? that steve?

gmafb. you have no idea what he'd think, you've never even been in the same room as the man. get over yourself already.
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I feel sorry for the Genius Bar employees having to service all this junk- Apple store morphs into Best Buy.
 
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Nope.

Steve is turning in his grave for the offical apple wireless keyboards that have no number pad.

would he? the original Mac keyboard, his baby, didn't have one either. maybe the things we think are important aren't the same things successful billionaires think are important?
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Can anyone say "payola".

that isn't what payola means. payola is a secret payment to someone (a DJ) for promotion. there's nothing secret about the public purchase.
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Massively overpriced, pathetically overhyped - in summary, just crap; with a different owner now.

And that's Tim Cook for you, Ladies and Gentlemen! Clap clap clap!

stock is doing much better under cook than it was when jobs died.

how's your company's stock price?
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What a nice customer assistant you must be, I bet everyone's so happy to come to your store.

My lightning cable broke after two months, and it was fixed in position in my car. Frayed at the strain relief as usual with Apple cables. It would be impossible to mistreat it in its fixed location, the only movement it gets is plugging in and unplugging from the phone, certainly no teeth come near it..! Apple doesn't seem to understand what "strain relief" means, since their strain reliefs don't even bend...

I'll see your anecdote and raise you -- all of my original lightning cables are in perfect shape and work flawlessly.

what am I doing wrong?
post #72 of 109

When Tim Cook's apple bought beats everyone knows what they really bought....

"street cred."

It's an expression made popular by the hip- hop culture of the 1990's.

It will be odd to see apple change beats styling without there being a big spanking from the many devotees of this brand and culture.

Apple, I think, would be wise to quietly improve the quality and not change the look.

As for having "Dr." as a preface to your fake name is just beyond theatrically absurd.

Also, am I to think this person had any involvement with the making of the actual headphones? NO, everyone knows that.

Dre is not a singer, everyone knows that he's a snake oil salesman, a dropout, a gangsta', everyone with wikipedia knows this.

His BFF is Suge Knight.... Hello?

It's just crass sponsorship. 

and another bragger.

​I think young black american culture places great significance on someones financial achievement beyond anything else.

People like Kanye West, Jay-Z and now Dr. Dre are not satisfied with being top in music and need commerce as the next step.

I hear that lately Michael Jordan has been consulting with silicon valley titans.

So, I guess basketball isn't enough, he needs more billions, now?

It's seems as tacky as "Trump Tower." but, at least the Donald is in real estate.

A blatant grab to further cash in on your fame by slapping your name on something and duping consumers should not be celebrated.

But, cleary Tim has been 'hipmotize'by Dre's big following.

.....and maybe he should be, hip-hop is no longer just a 'black' thing, it's Global.

Even though over 90% of hip-hop artists are still african american.

See, people, white's need mo' "street cred'

and apple is whiter than a 'frasier' episode :-)

To say that our new post hip hop culture internet 'Kardashian' Age is not a huge sales driver, globally, is just naive.

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it's a nickname, numbnutz.

Seeing this got me curious, what did he get his doctorate in? 

So I checked.  His Wikipedia article is really unclear on whether he actually graduated from high school.  No college education, certainly no doctorate.  He doesn't even have an honorary doctorate.  He's not a doctor of anything, he has no business using that title.
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No, it doesn't, I have old 30 pin connectors too that I've never even used.

Mine have been well used by their previous owners, and passed down to my team for re-use as-needed, so unlike yours, mine have seen a lot of mileage.
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Yeah fancy that, and i'm able to back up my statements with facts, you haven't once. Where's the proof that Apple cables break less?

You haven't backed up your statements concerning Apple cable reliability at all, so we're even. This has turned into a "my word against his" argument, with one person (me) staring at several old and still good Apple cables, whilst the other person claims they don't last longer than 2 months for him and that's the norm for Apple cables. Fancy that, perhaps you need to learn how to take care of cables the proper way.
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Considered by whom? I wasn't asking you anyway, even though AppleIDs are usually email addresses.

Apple ID's are considered confidential, as they can be used to expose one's account. If your "friend" at Apple ever tried to lookup another customer's repair history without their knowledge or consent, that is grounds for immediate termination, as it violates Apple's ToS. You should look into it sometime.
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You can't provide proof because you have none. And besides, it was one decade of experience in a previous post. That was a quick decade.

I have a decade of experience with Apple devices starting with the original iPod's, and two decades of overall experience in the IT technical industry, so my comments are correct. Your statement attempts to make it seem false.
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Why didn't you reply to my post regarding all Apple's repair programs? Couldn't you find a good excuse for each one?

You wanted to stray off the Yellow Brick Road by involving other recall programs, and I chose to stay on-point of this article regarding their cables. You do have a point that I will concede that neither Apple, nor anyone else, is perfect, and every manufacturer of every product ever made has issues. However, having been around, using, and supporting various Apple gear and their cables for a decade, I can say with absolute certainty that their products are high quality, right down to their cables. Case in point, you took me to task over the fact I mentioned that almost every Apple cable that came across my desk was mangled. Here's an interesting tidbit, none of those cables, regardless of kinks or punctures, were frayed at the strain relief, and were all still functional.
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I won't blindly defend something if I know it to be poor, and just because you haven't experienced the same problem doesn't mean others haven't. Despite you being adamant, It also doesn't mean its the fault of the user. I guess you think people who are born with a disease are themselves to blame because you don't have the same disease? It must be something they've done/not done!

I find your analogy quite offensive, as you're comparing an issue with cables to me insinuating people who are born with debilitating illnesses should blame themselves, that statement is a blatantly false assumption, and quite an obnoxious one at that.

You seem to selectively ignore my statement that I've seen people baby their device, but torture the cables. Over the years, I've lost count of how many Dell, HP, Acer, Lenovo power brick cables I've seen with mutilated strain relief, and having experienced that with every single previous laptop I've ever owned before my MBP, one of which needed to have the power pack replaced 7 times in 4 years (a Dell BTW), and seeing this repeat "in the wild" on a daily basis, I stand by my statement, and say you don't have a leg to stand on. I've only encountered two 30-pin cables where the strain relief was compromised, but those cables appeared to have been twisted like a kid with a twist tie over and over, so I place no fault on the cable itself but on the irresponsible owner. And let's not even talk about how many 3.5mm audio cables on ear buds and on-ear headphones I've seen looking like complete dog####.
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Finally!! Someone with a brain explains why these new cables are crap. You can't have it both ways. Either you have a solid cable made out of toxic materials or you have a flimsy cable that is non toxic and easy to recycle.

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Apple isn't perfect, as evidenced by their terrible cable build quality.

The cables always fray at the end partly due to inadequate strain relief, and due to Greenpeace's constant attemps to make Apple "greener": non-PVC cables are crap.

Non-PVC plastic just doesn't have the flexibility, and so Apple makes their cables out of foamed plastic. Eventually the non-flexible plastic weakens and cracks. That just doesn't happen with PVC. So instead of keeping one cable for years, I get them replaced bi-monthly by driving to the Apple store. That's so much more "green" than using PVC, eh Greenpeace? Why anyone pays any attention to those hippies is beyond me.

I had £65 Apple headphones do the same, Beats headphones probably use PVC and so are most likely better build quality than Apple's.
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Finally!! Someone with a brain explains why these new cables are crap. You can't have it both ways. Either you have a solid cable made out of toxic materials or you have a flimsy cable that is non toxic and easy to recycle.
Please tell me you forgot to put /s at the end of that statement...
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Massively overpriced, pathetically overhyped - in summary, just crap; with a different owner now.

And that's Tim Cook for you, Ladies and Gentlemen! Clap clap clap!

I've found the Powerbeats I bought to be of quite high quality, the sound easily rivals anything in the same price range.

They are also very well packaged, unboxing them was like opening an iPhone box.
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Ah, then why does the cable have just 1 star with 1000 reviews? With virtually every review saying it's frayed at the strain relief? I make electronics for a living, I think I know how to handle them thanks. This is just really bad design, which you are blindly defending. When thousands of people are having the same identical problem, it's not a usage problem, its a design problem, just as Trumptman said. There was a recall on iMacs for a HDD failure, was that the user's fault too? Maybe they were using them too much? And Apple's battery recalls? Maybe the user shouldn't have let the battery charge up to more than 50% so it wouldn't catch fire. Apple isn't perfect, despite what you like to think. Head in sand comes to mind.
Hello fanboy king. Even if you did have a cable fail (which you likely have) you'd never admit it, lest you chastise your beloved Apple.
"GET OUT" generally assumes someone is inside somewhere, and since people come to you with these broken cables, my best assumption is a store. Unless your family comes to you with the cables, and you tell them to "GET OUT" which would be equally unpleasant.
Do that a few more times and I can guarantee it'll break.
Apple doesn't make harddrives or batteries. So get your story straight. That problem falls on the manufacture, Apple just gets the blame!
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Originally Posted by Elijahg View Post

Ah, then why does the cable have just 1 star with 1000 reviews? With virtually every review saying it's frayed at the strain relief? I make electronics for a living, I think I know how to handle them thanks. This is just really bad design, which you are blindly defending. When thousands of people are having the same identical problem, it's not a usage problem, its a design problem, just as Trumptman said. There was a recall on iMacs for a HDD failure, was that the user's fault too? Maybe they were using them too much? And Apple's battery recalls? Maybe the user shouldn't have let the battery charge up to more than 50% so it wouldn't catch fire. Apple isn't perfect, despite what you like to think. Head in sand comes to mind.
Hello fanboy king. Even if you did have a cable fail (which you likely have) you'd never admit it, lest you chastise your beloved Apple.
"GET OUT" generally assumes someone is inside somewhere, and since people come to you with these broken cables, my best assumption is a store. Unless your family comes to you with the cables, and you tell them to "GET OUT" which would be equally unpleasant.
Do that a few more times and I can guarantee it'll break.

1000 reviews out of how many hundred million that have been sold?

That ratio is very close to zero.
Edited by hill60 - 8/7/14 at 11:18pm
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If these people treat the cables so badly, surely the same problem should occur with other phone manufacturers? Does it? Not that I can find. And surely they'd treat their phones with equal disrespect, but are there huge swathes of complaints over the phones breaking? Nope.

Yep.

I've seen plenty of microUSB sockets damaged from the plug being forced in the wrong way, I don't know if the situation is the same over there but if you read the fine print in the warranty of a certain Korean company whose name starts with S, you'll see they only offer six months on "accessories".
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