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In a short blog post about Motorola's upcoming Moto 360 smartwatch, the well-connected John Gruber caused a stir by seemingly saying Apple will launch "their wrist wearable thing" in September, though he later clarified that his comments were a "joke" and not based on any inside information.

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While he didn't go so far as to name drop "iWatch," Gruber's post on Daring Fireball leaves little room for interpretation.

It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape.

The only way this could get funnier would be if it doesn't even ship until after Apple announces their wrist wearable thing next month.


The comment was in response to a story from The Verge highlighting the Moto 360's wireless charging capabilities, as well as other miscellaneous information about the upcoming smartwatch. Gruber has a decent track record in telegraphing Apple's launch schedule, as evidenced by last year's prediction that the company would debut two iPhones, which ended up being the iPhone 5s and 5c.

Update: Gruber later took to Twitter to clarify that he was "just making a joke." He said that he has "no idea whether Apple is planning a wrist thing for September or October."

Apple is widely expected to reveal a wearable device, dubbed "iWatch" by media outlets, later this year, though recent rumors say the device has hit production issues. According to analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, the iWatch was originally slated to start mass manufacture in September, but Apple pushed the timeline back one month for December at the earliest.

Despite the purported production issues, and a report from Re/code claiming an October debut, some still anticipate Apple to announce its smartwatch next month when the company will reportedly hold a special event to unveil the next-generation iPhone.
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I think I like this analyst!
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Wait for Jim Dalrymple's "yep" or "nope".

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Okay, this article is incredibly dumb. I don't think Gruber knows anything about it, it was just an idle comment about something that would be funny with regard to the Moto360. He's hardly making hard predictions. And here it gets picked up by AI with the random thirdparty mockup image that Gruber and friends made fun of just a couple episodes ago on The Talk Show.
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Or you could wait for my 'oink' or squeal.
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Ah, blogging. Sound like something people do right after they had their coffee in the morning.

Really great story there Gruber. I can't wrap my head around it but I think I'm doing it wrong.
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Okay, this article is incredibly dumb. I don't think Gruber knows anything about it, it was just an idle comment about something that would be funny with regard to the Moto360. He's hardly making hard predictions. And here it gets picked up by AI with the random thirdparty mockup image that Gruber and friends made fun of just a couple episodes ago on The Talk Show.

 

Gruber has fairly accurate sources. Jim Dalrymple's sources are never wrong (as far as I can remember).

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There will never be a watch.
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Wait for Jim Dalrymple's "yep" or "nope".
Was Gruber intentionally letting something slip or was that comment based on many people's assumption Apple will announce something next month? I still have a sneaky feeling Apple won't be announcing just one thing. 9to5Mac reported that Apple hired another YSL executive and the team they're part of is focused on retail strategies for wearables. I don't think Apple would need a team for that if all they're announcing is one device that's either like an Android Wear device or a Nike FuelBand.
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Was Gruber intentionally letting something slip or was that comment based on many people's assumption Apple will announce something next month? I still have a sneaky feeling Apple won't be announcing just one thing. 9to5Mac reported that Apple hired another YSL executive and the team they're part of is focused on retail strategies for wearables. I don't think Apple would need a team for that if all they're announcing is one device that's either like an Android Wear device or a Nike FuelBand.

 

I still like the idea that Apple supplies a "core" that would be common to all watches and then the fashion companies provide variations on the iWatch for different styles, in the same way iPhone case companies provide thousands of varieties of cases and covers.

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I still like the idea that Apple supplies a "core" that would be common to all watches and then the fashion companies provide variations on the iWatch for different styles, in the same way iPhone case companies provide thousands of varieties of cases and covers.
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Was Gruber intentionally letting something slip....

If memory serves he's done just that thing before on a few occasions.

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John Gruber is very careful about everything he posts. I heard him say a few years ago he likes to control every pixel on his site. He wouldn't post this comment without knowing something. 

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They can't possibly call it iWatch. That's an ugly name. The word 'watch' itself comes off the tongue like a stripper out the back door; bumbling, slurring, and smelling of a gas station latrine. Like George Constanza in "The Seven," saying that the name "Blanche" must've sounded horrible at some point.
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They won't call it that.

No such thing as an iWatch or iTime.

It's a 2014 iPod with wrist form factor and biosensors.
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I still like the idea that Apple supplies a "core" that would be common to all watches and then the fashion companies provide variations on the iWatch for different styles, in the same way iPhone case companies provide thousands of varieties of cases and covers.

That's not a bad idea though I'm not sure how much Apple will want to cede design to 3rd parties. Perhaps Apple will do something like that themselves? I've heard that Jony Ive hates iPhone cases. I'll bet the only reason Apple sells their own is because they don't want to cede all those accessory $$$ to third parties. Probably another reason they bought Beats too.

I just hope whatever Apple does they keep women, especially women with tiny wrists in mind. I would never wear a Moto Almost 360 because it would look so bulky and huge on my wrist. I still don't understand why tech sites have such a hard on for that device. Just because the watch face is round? I think it's ugly. Especially the black bar at the bottom where the circuitry is.
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iWatch.

As long as it has a physical keyboard and can run Office Excel, I'm getting one.
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iWatch.

As long as it has a physical keyboard and can run Office Excel, I'm getting one.


Please tell me that is sarcasm. People already complain about word processing or spreadsheets on the iPhone, a 2" square (and that is being very liberal with the dimensions) would be impossible!

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Please tell me you did not just ask that question. :)

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They won't call it that.

No such thing as an iWatch or iTime.

It's a 2014 iPod with wrist form factor and biosensors.

Not sure why AI put that in the title. It reads like a quote, but the actual post said nothing about an iWatch.
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The only way this could get funnier would be if it doesn't even ship until after Apple announces their wrist wearable thing next month.

Actually it would be funnier if Apple never announces a wearable wrist thing.

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Whether he's a legit source matters not.  This is probably the safest 'prediction' in the recent history of tech.  If Apple doesn't drop this thing in September, something has gone seriously wrong.

 

There's only so far suspense will take you, and even though the other current watch offerings are mostly a joke, eventually someone is going to beat Apple to the punch and deliver something good.  The novelty factor has already been so diluted by the flood of fool's gold that this watch is going to have to be jaw dropping.

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Actually it would be funnier if Apple never announces a wearable wrist thing.

 

That would be amazing.  Hats off to Apple for making the whole tech industry go crazy trying to make watches just based on a rumor that Apple intended to break into that sector.

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"It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape."

Motorola's "stupid flat-tire display shape" is only the shape almost EVERY WATCH EVER MADE has had.

Gruber is an idiot. No, Gruber is a retard and an idiot.
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I'd rather the greatest designer of our age take a shot at combining design,software,services, and technology to deliver another magical user experience.

 

Do you work for Apple PR?  That was an amazing sentence. ;)

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"It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape."

Motorola's "stupid flat-tire display shape" is only the shape almost EVERY WATCH EVER MADE has had.

Gruber is an idiot. No, Gruber is a retard and an idiot.

Retard and idiot. Way to have an intelligent conversation. 1rolleyes.gif

If I want a nicely designed WATCH I won't be buying a Moto Almost 360, I'll buy a nice watch from a well known watch maker.
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"It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape."

Motorola's "stupid flat-tire display shape" is only the shape almost EVERY WATCH EVER MADE has had.

Gruber is an idiot. No, Gruber is a retard and an idiot.

 

Like him or not, Gruber is far from an idiot.  Yes, watches have always been round, but the Moto 360 is more than just round.  It's thick, flat, and too big.  It looks pretty good in photos that just show the watch.  Not so when you see it on someone's wrist.  It's incredibly unwieldily and unattractive.

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My point is that Gruber is such an Apple sycophant that he makes ridiculously biased statements when it concerns Apple's competition. If Apple put a literal piece of crap on a wristband, Gruber would write a five thousand word post in defense of it. 

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My point is that Gruber is such an Apple sycophant that he makes ridiculously biased statements when it concerns Apple's competition. If Apple put a literal piece of crap on a wristband, Gruber would write a five thousand word post in defense of it. 
I find it quite ironic you made this comment on Apple Insider. You basically just described Daniel Eran Dilger. 1wink.gif
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Was Gruber intentionally letting something slip or was that comment based on many people's assumption Apple will announce something next month? I still have a sneaky feeling Apple won't be announcing just one thing. 9to5Mac reported that Apple hired another YSL executive and the team they're part of is focused on retail strategies for wearables. I don't think Apple would need a team for that if all they're announcing is one device that's either like an Android Wear device or a Nike FuelBand.

 

This was a very, very considered comment from John Gruber and possibly the whole point to posting in the first place.

 

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Okay, this article is incredibly dumb. I don't think Gruber knows anything about it, it was just an idle comment about something that would be funny with regard to the Moto360. He's hardly making hard predictions. And here it gets picked up by AI with the random thirdparty mockup image that Gruber and friends made fun of just a couple episodes ago on The Talk Show.

 

The subtlety might have been lost to you but the message couldn't have been clearer had Gruber rented a billboard in Times Square, being that Apple is releasing wearable tech next month.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post

Was Gruber intentionally letting something slip or was that comment based on many people's assumption Apple will announce something next month? I still have a sneaky feeling Apple won't be announcing just one thing. 9to5Mac reported that Apple hired another YSL executive and the team they're part of is focused on retail strategies for wearables. I don't think Apple would need a team for that if all they're announcing is one device that's either like an Android Wear device or a Nike FuelBand.

I think Gruber's comment is being taken to mean something he did not intend. Gruber is usually very careful about what he posts and is generally respectful of Apple. That is why he gets press invites.
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I find it quite ironic you made this comment on Apple Insider. You basically just described Daniel Eran Dilger. 1wink.gif
Gruber's FAR more objective than DED could ever hope to be.

That and the fact that Gruber posts under his own name and not three or four different aliases like DED, Corrections, Prince McClean etc...
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"It looks like Motorola's designers tried to draw as much attention as they could to the 360's stupid flat-tire display shape."

Motorola's "stupid flat-tire display shape" is only the shape almost EVERY WATCH EVER MADE has had.

Gruber is an idiot. No, Gruber is a retard and an idiot.
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My point is that Gruber is such an Apple sycophant that he makes ridiculously biased statements when it concerns Apple's competition. If Apple put a literal piece of crap on a wristband, Gruber would write a five thousand word post in defense of it. 

 

You produce an outrageous post and then try to defend it with an equally banal statement. Go do that elsewhere please.

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This was a very, very considered comment from John Gruber and possibly the whole point to posting in the first place.


The subtlety might have been lost to you but the message couldn't have been clearer had Gruber rented a billboard in Times Square, being that Apple is releasing wearable tech next month.

Mark Gurman re-tweeted Gruber's comment. If he was hearing differently or didn't agree he'd say so. Gurman annoys me but he does get his scoops.
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Gruber's FAR more objective than DED could ever hope to be.

That the fact that Gruber posts under his own name and not three or four different aliases like DED, Corrections, Prince McClean etc...
Gruber may have an Apple bias but he does seem fair. Heck he showed up at Microsoft's Build conference this year because his Vesper app utilizes Microsoft's cloud services.
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Gruber may have an Apple bias but he does seem fair. Heck he showed up at Microsoft's Build conference this year because his Vesper app utilizes Microsoft's cloud services.


I've seen him compliment quite a number of Apple's competitor's products. Obviously he's pro-Apple but he's pretty fair and calls Apple out when it's called for.

 

His podcast from Build was pretty cool and funny to listen to. I'd like to see him do one with Paul Thurrott and or Preston Gralla. The ultimate one would be Dalrymple or Gruber and Rob Enderle.

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I've seen him compliment quite a number of Apple's competitor's products. Obviously he's pro-Apple but he's pretty fair and calls Apple out when it's called for.

His podcast from Build was pretty cool and funny to listen to. I'd like to see him do one with Paul Thurrott and or Preston Gralla. The ultimate one would be Dalrymple or Gruber and Rob Enderle.

Rob Enderle? Eww...no. 1oyvey.gif

I know a lot of people dislike Paul Thurrott but I don't mind him so much, on Windows Weekly at least. I wouldn't mind Gruber having Mary Jo Foley on his show. She seems super cool and isn't ever nasty about Microsoft competitors. I wish he would have done his podcast with her instead of Ed Bott.
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Nope.
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Rob Enderle? Eww...no. 1oyvey.gif

I know a lot of people dislike Paul Thurrott but I don't mind him so much, on Windows Weekly at least. I wouldn't mind Gruber having Mary Jo Foley on his show. She seems super cool and isn't ever nasty about Microsoft competitors. I wish he would have done his podcast with her instead of Ed Bott.

 

I also watch Windows Weekly occasionally (and once in a blue moon, All About Android). My problem with the TWiT Windows podcasts... Leo seems so damn bored. He acts like his being there is painful to him (and it might be). 

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