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Samsung have never released phone sales figures in their earnings reports, so as far as I'm concerned, they've sold zero phones of any description until told otherwise.

 Nobody release units numbers in the earnings report except Apple.

 

 

 

You got there in the end.

 

You choose to go by the wild speculation of analyst reports; I choose to go by reported numbers.

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post #42 of 57
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You got there in the end.

 

You choose to go by the wild speculation of analyst reports; I choose to go by reported numbers.

 

No.  You choose to have your head in the sand.

 

If you don't think Samsung sold a ton of phablets you are in dreamland

 

You dont make 20 billion in profits selling refridgerators.  

You do that by selling premium smartphones and tens of milions of them a year.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

Samsung has lied about the number of phones they have sold 

 

Fixed.

 
#2 Proof of the 4.7 phone shows that Apple is stepping away from 1 handed use.  The 5.5 is just the next step

 

4.7” on a thin enough device is usable with one hand. Nothing larger, however, is.

 

Originally Posted by Evilution View Post
There is no point using something with the properties of liquidmetal for something that won't be seen.

 

Except certain alloys of LiquidMetal are radio transparent, so a phone body invisible to the radio waves its antenna needs would be pretty useful.

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I can break your arm if I apply enough force, but in normal handshaking this won't happen ever.
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Fixed.

 

4.7” on a thin enough device is usable with one hand. Nothing larger, however, is.

 

 

Except certain alloys of LiquidMetal are radio transparent, so a phone body invisible to the radio waves its antenna needs would be pretty useful.

 

 

Samsung made $24 billion in operating profit in 2013 for their mobile division.

Samsung made $18 billion in operating profit in 2012 for their mobile divsion.

 

So how did they make so much money if they didn't sell a ton of premium phones?

Tell me that.

 

below is their earnings release. 

http://www.samsung.com/us/aboutsamsung/ir/ireventpresentations/earningsrelease/downloads/2012/20140124_conference_eng.pdf

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4.7” on a thin enough device is usable with one hand. Nothing larger, however, is.



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Wrong again buddy.

The 5S is too big for one handed use for many including me.
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

So how did they make so much money if they didn't sell a ton of premium phones?


Because they actually sell a ton of garbage phones, all around the world. The throwaway dumb ones.

 

Originally Posted by sog35 View Post
The 5S is too big for one handed use for many including me.

 

I can certainly see that being the case; many women have tiny, almost delicate hands. Put one up to a man’s and it’s all, “Hey, your hands are tiny. And smooth. And your fingers are… wrapping around mine…”

 

However, that does not preclude the possibility of one-handed use with a larger device, as hands large enough to manage it do exist. But the bell curve must fall back down again, and therefore making a device to cater to Robert Wadlow-style hands is, of course, not happening.

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Because they actually sell a ton of garbage phones, all around the world. The throwaway dumb ones.


I can certainly see that being the case; many women have tiny, almost delicate hands. Put one up to a man’s and it’s all, “Hey, your hands are tiny. And smooth. And your fingers are… wrapping around mine…”

However, that does not preclude the possibility of one-handed use with a larger device, as hands large enough to manage it do exist. But the bell curve must fall back down again, and therefore making a device to cater to Robert Wadlow-style hands is, of course, not happening.

Nokia also sells a ton of cheap phones. But they dont make tens of billions of dollars.

Samsung sells at least 50 million large phones a year.
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post
Nokia also sells a ton of cheap phones. But they dont make tens of billions of dollars.

 

There’s garbage and there’s garbage. A phone can be of the same quality, but if the margins are different…

 
Samsung sells at least 50 million large phones a year. 

 

They sell at least [citation needed] [insert category] phones per year.

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post #49 of 57
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Likely the protruding camera ring is only on the 5.5" model.. thats the one that showed this ring in the 3D rendering leaked months ago..

It does look like the 5.5" will have the OIS, Sapphire, and more storage (64/128GB) and a few other hardware 'perks' over the 4.7"..

I have a sneaky suspicion they are going the way they have with the Mackbook line..

We used to have
- Macbook Classic (White plastic)
- Macbook Air
- Macbook Pro

I think we're going the below with $50 bump between storage versions
- iPhone Classic (4", 16/32GB) $99/$149
- iPhone Air (4.7" 32/64GB) $199/$249
- iPhone Pro(5.5" 64/128GB) $299/$349

I say the $50 bump because they just did that with the iPod Touch line a month ago.. plus a $50 premium bump to get into the next size (64GB 4.7" vs 64GB 5.5")

With the 128GB 5.5" only, and premium features like OIS (Ring kind of proving it) and Sapphire rumors.. Plus iPod storage price changes.. The rumors are lining up to look like this anyway...
Keep dreaming...for 32GB starter: It wont happen. Also, 5.5" if it happens, starts at $299 for 16GB too
post #50 of 57
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If you believe they made that much profit selling the big-screened top 10 or 20% of their phone line, giving a lot of them away buy-one-get-one-free from introduction day, you're delusional.
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BOGO promotions are done by the carrier not the manufacturer.
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BOGO promotions are done by the carrier not the manufacturer.

Not necessarily. In order to make the product cost low enough so that BOGO becomes an effective marketing tool the retailer and manufacturer can work out deals for lower prices which could prevent the retailer from shipping back unused merchandise that can't move.

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post #52 of 57
I really am enjoying the war between TS and Sog35. It a classic, right up there with Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant, Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin, Betamax vs. VHS, Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD.

It's a pity the war will stop once the new iPhones are announced.

God, I hope not!
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Originally Posted by BestKeptSecret View Post
It's a pity the war will stop once the new iPhones are announced.

 

TEAM JACOB! No. Never. In any capacity. Disregard this entirely.

Originally Posted by helia

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I really am enjoying the war between TS and Sog35. It a classic, right up there with Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant, Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin, Betamax vs. VHS, Blu-ray vs. HD-DVD.

It's a pity the war will stop once the new iPhones are announced.

God, I hope not!

 

Why would it end then?

We are destined to battle FOREVER!

post #55 of 57
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Not necessarily. In order to make the product cost low enough so that BOGO becomes an effective marketing tool the retailer and manufacturer can work out deals for lower prices which could prevent the retailer from shipping back unused merchandise that can't move.

That's understandable, but the OP was referring to a BOGO offer on launch day. In the case there's no unsold merchandise that isn't moving.
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post #56 of 57
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That's understandable, but the OP was referring to a BOGO offer on launch day. In the case there's no unsold merchandise that isn't moving.

It could still happen as it's unlikely that a retailer would order so much excess and be aware of it immediately. I'd say that a BOGO out of the gate is likely a vendor giving a retailer a special deal on pricing to move more units to make up some goal before the end of a quarter (or whatever), or just trying to make consumer interest look better in hopes that it starts a chain reaction. But really don't know as it's a complex dance that may not have what I would consider a logical reason attached to it.

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post #57 of 57
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It could still happen as it's unlikely that a retailer would order so much excess and be aware of it immediately. I'd say that a BOGO out of the gate is likely a vendor giving a retailer a special deal on pricing to move more units to make up some goal before the end of a quarter (or whatever), or just trying to make consumer interest look better in hopes that it starts a chain reaction. But really don't know as it's a complex dance that may not have what I would consider a logical reason attached to it.

The reason (getting one's product into more hands) is logical, it's just not financially reasonable. With calling plans becoming cheaper all the time a parent can get their child a high end smartphone for free, and add them to their current plan for as little as an extra $10 a month. I'm surprised that BOGO offers aren't rampant now, just as kids are going away to college.
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