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Ahead of an expected special event in September, Apple suppliers are supposedly ramping up manufacturing of both 9.7-inch and 7.9-inch iPad models, with the larger version expected to debut as soon as this quarter.




Citing sources familiar with Apple's supply chain, Bloomberg reports Apple's partner suppliers in Asia have started mass production of the next-generation 9.7-inch iPad, while a new iPad mini version enters early stages of assembly.

The larger version, thought to be a follow-up to Apple's iPad Air, should see launch by the end of the third quarter or early fourth quarter, sources said. Initial stock may be constrained, however, due to manufacturing issues related to the application of an anti-reflective screen coating, a new feature for Apple's tablet lineup. Previously, iOS device screen treatments have been limited to oleophobic, or fingerprint-resistant, coatings.

As for the iPad mini, not much was offered in the way of new information aside from claims that the tablet is also entering production and should hit store shelves by the end of the year.

The next-gen iPads are expected to be a revision of current hardware, with the most notable change being the inclusion of Apple's Touch ID fingerprint sensor. Aside from the reported anti-refelective coating, the iPad should get the usual performance upgrades and minor design tweaks consistent with an annual product refresh.

Most recently, photos of a "leaked" chassis supposedly bound for the "iPad Air 2" showed off recessed volume control buttons and a revamped speaker grille layout.

While the exact launch dates are unknown, Apple is rumored to be planning a special media event for Sept. 9, which is expected to focus on the next iPhone.
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Starting production right now would be good for a September launch. I'm a bit excited and are hoping that Apple upgrades the device properly to convince me to upgrade. As it is even my iPad 3 is running better with iOS 8.
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Although I'm purchasing them myself, it seems Christmas is coming early what with a new iPad Air to replace original iPad 3G and iPhone 6, to replace, well, nothing - this will be my first iPhone, and both with iOS 8 "under the tree" plus Yosemite for my iMac to enjoy 'Continuity'. What a time it is to be an Apple Fan!

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.

The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.
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So does Apple think iPad mini owners don't read?
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Starting production right now would be good for a September launch. I'm a bit excited and are hoping that Apple upgrades the device properly to convince me to upgrade. As it is even my iPad 3 is running better with iOS 8.
Hardly, iPhone production started in June/July, and if I'm correct it is 90% of production threw September so it could easily be august.
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Originally Posted by bsenka View Post
All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight.


Well, no, but…

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If the new iPads don't have at least 2GB RAM I'll save my money and stick with the Air. Very sick of the constant tab reloads in Safari.
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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.

The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.

 

The solution to your problem using an iPhone in bright sunlight is to increase the brightness to full.

 

Problem solved! That was easy.

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Originally Posted by bsenka View Post
All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight.


Well, no, but…

Perhaps not completely, but substantially, depending on the application. In his description, the device is mounted to the handlebars of his bike so he can't easily tilt or adjust the device to not have reflections. If you think about how it might be oriented on a handle bar, it would be generally facing upward and during midday, a common time of the day for bike riding, it would be facing the sun a good deal of the time. I'm not sure that any anti-reflective coating would help in his case but I can certainly understand the problem from his perspective.

 

I just went outside. It is cloudy around 5 PM and I could easily recreate the scenario I described above where nothing but the reflected clouds was visible on the screen even with the brightness set to maximum.

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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post
If the new iPads don't have at least 2GB RAM I'll save my money and stick with the Air. Very sick of the constant tab reloads in Safari.


I should think that 2 gigs on the iPad 6 and iPhone 8 is guaranteed.

 

I should also think that more than 2 gigs is guaranteed not to happen. Not until… Marvin, when was it that the new RAM that can selectively power only what is in use is slated to hit mass production? I can’t remember anything.

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The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty.

Are you serious??

Did you build a time machine and go back to 1993?

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Although I'm purchasing them myself, it seems Christmas is coming early what with a new iPad Air to replace original iPad 3G and iPhone 6, to replace, well, nothing - this will be my first iPhone, and both with iOS 8 "under the tree" plus Yosemite for my iMac to enjoy 'Continuity'. What a time it is to be an Apple Fan!

Good to see your addiction to Apple being weaned!
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If the new iPads don't have at least 2GB RAM I'll save my money and stick with the Air. Very sick of the constant tab reloads in Safari.

Almost as sick as we are of hearing of them.
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Isn't it so obvious that a 5.5" iPhone 6 is coming? /s

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Almost as sick as we are of hearing of them.
I'd love to know what iPad you have that doesn't have this issue. 1eek.gif
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I should think that 2 gigs on the iPad 6 and iPhone 8 is guaranteed.

I should also think that more than 2 gigs is guaranteed not to happen. Not until… Marvin, when was it that the new RAM that can selectively power only what is in use is slated to hit mass production? I can’t remember anything.
I'll take anything that makes Safari a better experience on the iPad.
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I'll take anything that makes Safari a better experience on the iPad.

IOS 8 helps a lot! Safari does have more than a few bugs in beta though.
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Although I'm purchasing them myself, it seems Christmas is coming early what with a new iPad Air to replace original iPad 3G and iPhone 6, to replace, well, nothing - this will be my first iPhone, and both with iOS 8 "under the tree" plus Yosemite for my iMac to enjoy 'Continuity'. What a time it is to be an Apple Fan!

 

Absolutely.  I'll grab an iPad Air (hopefully with Touch ID) to replace my iPad 3rd gen (first Retina model) handing that one off to a family member.  And I'll take one of those 4.7" iPhones, selling on my iPhone 5 64GB.  And my MacBook Air is the late 2010 model, so its time for a new one, but I've been waiting for a retina display model to come available.  Hopefully get my wish there too.  I also would like to see a new AppleTV.  I don't own one and have waited to see what the next one will offer.  Updated my iPod Nano to the new generation this spring.  And I'll look hard at the iWatch when that arrives.  That should about set me for another year.  LOL!

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IOS 8 helps a lot! Safari does have more than a few bugs in beta though.
Ooh I like hearing that. Just today I was trying to view the new Your Verse and on Apple's website and Safari kept crashing. So frustrating.
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Are you serious??

Did you build a time machine and go back to 1993?

Don't be ignorant. Most luxury watches feature AR coating. It's common for it to wear so some manufacturers only coat the INSIDE of the glass.

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.

The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.

And that's why I own a Kindle - so I can read at the beach, poolside or in a park. :D

 
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Don't be ignorant. Most luxury watches feature AR coating. It's common for it to wear so some manufacturers only coat the INSIDE of the glass.

hmmm....HMMMMMM!!!!!
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The solution to your problem using an iPhone in bright sunlight is to increase the brightness to full.

 

Problem solved! That was easy.

When I installed iOS7 on my iPhone 4 and adjusted the background color,

   suddenly I could see it fairly well in bright summer sunshine.

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.

The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.


The screen protector I installed on my iPhone 4, when I got it 3.5 yrs back, does a good job of taming reflections.

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You should be thankful Apple hasn't upped the ram to 2GB so far. Once they get around to it the OS and apps will start using more ram, and your lovely iPad 2 etc. will suddenly be unable to do its job. Of course, then the same people whinging about ram will be whinging about planned obsolescence.
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The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.
 
I think you are worrying needlessly. I'm sure they will have tested it simulating several years of heavy usage. The coatings are pretty durable.

 

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Are you serious??

Did you build a time machine and go back to 1993?

Actually they are using the same vapor deposition processes since the 1940s.

 

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Don't be ignorant. Most luxury watches feature AR coating. It's common for it to wear so some manufacturers only coat the INSIDE of the glass.

 

I don't know why you would put a coating on the inside. It would not work. The light is coming from the outside. The idea of anti-reflective coating is to disrupt the light waves before they reach the surface of the glass. To do that the coating needs to be on the outside.

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup.

Fit a anti reflective screen protector.

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Almost as sick as we are of hearing of them.
I'd love to know what iPad you have that doesn't have this issue. 1eek.gif

 

Every iPad that I've owned. I normally have one tab open at a time, so I don't encounter your problem.

 

Try improving your browsing habits.

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Originally Posted by Benjamin Frost View Post
I normally have one tab open at a time, so I dont encounter your problem. Try improving your browsing habits.


Oh, come on. A single tab isn’t an improvement. Every single tab reloads when switching to another on my first gen, but I would still want the nice feature in post iOS 5 where tabs that can’t be shown on the screen remain open.

 

Hitting nine tabs and having the tenth push the first out of existence was a horrible idea.

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I normally have one tab open at a time, so I dont encounter your problem. Try improving your browsing habits.


Oh, come on. A single tab isn’t an improvement. Every single tab reloads when switching to another on my first gen, but I would still want the nice feature in post iOS 5 where tabs that can’t be shown on the screen remain open.

 

Hitting nine tabs and having the tenth push the first out of existence was a horrible idea.

 

I'm sure you have good reasons for having multiple tabs open, but I hardly ever do. In the days of slow internet, it was useful to have lots of tabs whilst you waited for other pages to load, but I don't see the point with speedy internet. Seems like a throwback to a bygone age. 

 

On the other hand, I hate apps that throw you back to the home page when you multitask; that really is annoying.

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.

The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.


No kidding.

 

It was worth the extra money to buy a 15" or 17" MacBook Pro with an antiglare screen when it was available, I always strongly encouraged my clients to spend the extra.  But that no longer exists, Apple killed it when they killed the real MacBook Pros.

 

It's insane.  I'm always having to move my computer or my head to get the screen adjusted just right to avoid looking at lights behind me.  And there's no reason for it, glossy displays are crap, and shouldn't have even been an option, let alone the default.

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It really is crazy that Apple has no non-glossy products in their entire lineup. All of the iOS devices are completely unusable in bright sunlight. I tried to use my iPhone as a bike computer with the Stava app. The app is great, but I cannot see the screen of the phone mounted on the handlebars if there's any appreciable level of sunshine. I get it that some people like the glossy screens, but non-glossy ones should at least be a BTO option.


The thing I worry about is this "anti-reflective coating". Coatings wear off, often in uneven ways that make the device look worn out and ratty. Make a screen that isn't glossy to begin with.


No kidding.

It was worth the extra money to buy a 15" or 17" MacBook Pro with an antiglare screen when it was available, I always strongly encouraged my clients to spend the extra.  But that no longer exists, Apple killed it when they killed the real MacBook Pros.

It's insane.  I'm always having to move my computer or my head to get the screen adjusted just right to avoid looking at lights behind me.  And there's no reason for it, glossy displays are crap, and shouldn't have even been an option, let alone the default.

Try not having lights positioned that are reflected in the screen. Problem solved.
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Guess I read it at Anandtech, that ios can't use A7's full capacity because it runs out of RAM and that if 5s had more RAM, not only it'd do better multitasking, but would had better CPU performance as well. (Imagine A7 is even more powerful than we think!) So prolly having 2GB RAM at next iDevices sounds like a fair bet, or am I wrong?

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I'm sure you have good reasons for having multiple tabs open, but I hardly ever do. In the days of slow internet, it was useful to have lots of tabs whilst you waited for other pages to load, but I don't see the point with speedy internet. Seems like a throwback to a bygone age. 

 

On the other hand, I hate apps that throw you back to the home page when you multitask; that really is annoying.

 

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The solution to your problem using an iPhone in bright sunlight is to increase the brightness to full.

 

Problem solved! That was easy.

 

No, that was stupid. It's still harmfull for your eyes. Unless you wear anti-reflective glasses.

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