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Thailand's National Broadcasting and Telecommunications Commission has approved two new Apple handsets -- said to be variants of the so-called "iPhone 6" -- for sale in the country, the regulator's secretary general revealed on Wendesday, suggesting that Thailand could join the list of launch countries for the next-generation devices.



The new phones sport model identifiers A1586 and A1524, according to Thai broadsheet Manager Daily. Apple is said to have submitted the applications on Aug. 5 and received approval on Aug. 8.

Such an early filing date could indicate that Apple plans to expand the scope of the initial launch of an "iPhone 6." The company did not seek approval for the iPhone 5c and iPhone 5s in Thailand until Sept. 25 of last year, and the handsets eventually began shipping in the Southeast Asian nation on Oct. 25.

While Apple is widely rumored to be planning the release of two all-new iPhones next month --?one 4.7-inch model and a larger, 5.5-inch "phablet" variant -- the existence of the two disparate identifiers does not necessarily support that case. Apple ships six distinct models of the iPhone 5s, for instance, depending upon the region and network technology in use.

Apple is reportedly planning to introduce the "iPhone 6" at a media event on Sept. 9, though no formal announcement has been made. If the company follows its traditional release schedule, the handsets would then become available on Sept. 19.
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Note “two identifiers” can easily mean two models of the same thing. The CDMA/GSM iPhone 4, for example.


Edited by Tallest Skil - 8/13/14 at 9:09am
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-  the existence of the two disparate identifiers does not necessarily support that case. Apple ships six distinct models of the iPhone 5s, for instance, depending upon the region and network technology in use.

Do they ship two distinct models of 5S to Thailand? 

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Jesus El Christo... everytime somebody on the Asian continent says the word "iPhone 6", AI has to run a story about it. 

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Do they ship two distinct models of 5S to Thailand? 

more like 5s and 5c.  both released on the same date last year... just a month late.

 

Or like Tallest Skil pointed out  CDMA/GSM would require different sku's.

 

the TL;DR of this is:   Thailand is slated for early release of next version(s) of iPhone.

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could be good news for the rumored 5.5" screen size.  But i would like to see more leaks about it to confirm its existance.

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Another explanation for the two model numbers would be if Apple decided to stick the guts of the iPhone 5s into a plastic body; that would require a new model number (just like the iPhone 5c phones).

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"Wendesday", really? Come on guys. Spell check!

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Do they ship two distinct models of 5S to Thailand? 

I live in a Thailand and there's just one model of 5s. Last year they were pretty hard to get hold of for weeks after the launch.
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More proof of the 5.5
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Originally Posted by TheOtherGeoff View Post

the TL;DR of this is:   Thailand is slated for early release of next version(s) of iPhone.

 
Well, no, they got permission to sell. That has nothing to do with selling early.

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Another explanation for the two model numbers would be if Apple decided to stick the guts of the iPhone 5s into a plastic body; that would require a new model number (just like the iPhone 5c phones).

They will put the iPhone5S in a plastic body and call it iPhoneColor. They will not give it the vaunted iPhone6 name
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the TL;DR of this is:   Thailand is slated for early release of next version(s) of iPhone.

 

Thailand may be slated for first day release of the iPhone 6, but I'm betting not for the version that comes after that.  :lol: 

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Another explanation for the two model numbers would be if Apple decided to stick the guts of the iPhone 5s into a plastic body; that would require a new model number (just like the iPhone 5c phones).

We haven't heard any leaks like that yet have we? I still haven't seen too many 5c in the wild, but it makes sense to reduce the cost if you are going to continue to sell last year's technology. Of course, that would suggest that Thailand is not selling one of the models if indeed there is a third variant, since they only registered two model numbers.

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possible lineup from my contact in the middle east:

 

iPhone 5C - $450

iPhone Color - $550 - basically 5S in the same plastic shell as the 5C

iPhone Air - $650 - 4.7 inch

iPhone Pro - $750 - 5.5 inch, Sapphire

 

From now on Apple won't sell any mid-level phones with metal cases.  Its just way to expensive.

 

The 5C and iPhone Color will have the exact same case.  This will cut down on production costs big time.  The iPhone Color will come in additional colors however. 

 

The line between high-end and mid-end Apple phones will be clear as day.  Plastic = mid-end.  Metal = high-end.

 

In 2015 the transition will be complete.  No longer will we have iPhone's with numbers.

 

iPhone Color - $450 - 4 inch

iPhone Color - $550 - 4.7 inch

iPhone Air - $650 - 4.7

iPhone Pro - $750 - 5.5

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We haven't heard any leaks like that yet have we? I still haven't seen too many 5c in the wild, but it makes sense to reduce the cost if you are going to continue to sell last year's technology. Of course, that would suggest that Thailand is not selling one of the models if indeed there is a third variant, since they only registered two model numbers.

No, we haven't heard any rumors like that, but it would be hard to track down, plus there's probably very little interest in this as a rumor item or getting access to the prototype parts.

 

The iPhone 5s is very similar to the iPhone 5 in terms of industrial design, so modifying the existing iPhone 5c chassis to accommodate the iPhone 5s guts would be a fairly trivial modification. Testing a prototype "plastic iPhone 5s" device in the wild would be a piece of cake since it would look almost identical to the iPhone 5c -- who would know?

 

If there is a third handset (like a larger 5.5" model), it's possible that Apple has not yet submitted the device to the Thai government for regulatory approval. That would jibe with other rumors that the larger handset is slated for a later release.

 

Of course, it could also indicate that there is no third 5.5" handset.

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If there is a third handset (like a larger 5.5" model), it's possible that Apple has not yet submitted the device to the Thai government for regulatory approval. That would jibe with other rumors that the larger handset is slated for a later release.

 

Of course, it could also indicate that there is no third 5.5" handset.

 

Bingo.

 

Apple's big surprise is the 5.5

Just like how they kept the MacPro under wraps.

No production has begun on the 5.5, thus no parts.....yet.

 

I expect the 5.5 to be available in late October with production starting in the beginning of Sept

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Personally, I think there is a good chance that there is no 5.5" handset waiting in the wings.

 

Apple's natural inclination is not to proliferate many size variants. There are two screen sizes each for the iPad, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and iMac.

 

From a manufacturing perspective, this simplifies product design and supply chain management. It also likely improves gross margins.

 

From the developers' perspective -- particularly on the iOS side -- limited variants makes app development more manageable, with fewer combinations of screen sizes, aspect ratios, and pixel resolution.

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Personally, I think there is a good chance that there is no 5.5" handset waiting in the wings.

 

Apple's natural inclination is not to proliferate many size variants. There are two screen sizes each for the iPad, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and iMac.

 

From a manufacturing perspective, this simplifies product design and supply chain management. It also likely improves gross margins.

 

From the developers' perspective -- particularly on the iOS side -- limited variants makes app development more manageable, with fewer combinations of screen sizes, aspect ratios, and pixel resolution.

 

iPhone is 50% of Apple's revenue/profit.

 

I think they are willing to make an exception for their cash cow.

 

3 sizes is no problem for them. 

Hell even HTC makes 4 different sizes.

 

From my viewpoint I don't even consider the iPad and iPhone as two separate lines.  I consider them one line with 4 different sizes.

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iPhone is 50% of Apple's revenue/profit.

 

I think they are willing to make an exception for their cash cow.

 

3 sizes is no problem for them. 

Hell even HTC makes 4 different sizes.

Hell, HTC does not turn a profit.

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Hell, HTC does not turn a profit.

 

Samdung makes 10 screen sizes

 

limited screen sizes for Apple is more about a design philosophy than margins.

Especially since the 5.5 screen will bring in higher Margins at $750-$950

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Well, Apple has great margins (better than Samsung or anyone else in the handset industry by way), plus the limited number of screen sizes jibes with Apple's design philosophy, both from a product manufacturing perspective and how iOS developers have to program the various iOS devices.

 

Occam's razor would suggest that there is no 5.5" iPhone.


Edited by mpantone - 8/13/14 at 11:45am
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Well, Apple has great margins (better than Samsung or anyone else in the handset industry by way), plus the limited number of screen sizes jibes with Apple's design philosophy, both from a product manufacturing perspective and how iOS developers have to program the various iOS devices.

 

Occam's razor would suggest that there is no 5.5" iPhone.

 

the razor would also have said no 5C last year.

That was the first time there were multiple new phones released in one month.

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The iPhone 5c wasn't really new. The guts were identical with the iPhone 5.

 

It was Apple's way of differentiating value between the new handset and the previous model but there was zero change from the functionality of the iPhone 5.

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The iPhone 5c wasn't really new. The guts were identical with the iPhone 5. It was Apple's way of differentiating value between the new handset and the previous model.

 

it was still a new model.

with a totally new type of case, which required totally different machines.

 

Bottom line is this: Munster is a FOOL saying that margins will drop.  No one knows.  Not even Apple.  It all depends on commodity prices, product mix, and total iPhones/iPads/Macs sold.

 

The guy is a total fraud.  He obviously is trying to keep the stock price down.

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More proof of the 5.5
Its time for the deniers to capitulate
I bet Kanye West (Sog35) becomes the very last holdout for a 5.5" iPhone.
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I bet Kanye West (Sog35) becomes the very last holdout for a 5.5" iPhone.

 

oh boy.  Dahli Lama is back......

btw, I'm not Black.  Don't even like hip hop music.

 

So what phone are use using now?

I hope its a $99 Android since buying luxury goods is irrational according to you


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oh boy.  Dahli Lama is back......
btw, I'm not Black.  Don't even like hip hop music.

So what phone are use using now?
I hope its a $99 Android since buying luxury goods is irrational.
Because you keep making the same association, I don't believe you understand that the Dalai Lama is one of the most respected spiritual men in the world. Sounds like "Kanye West is running away from Kanye West"... I am sure it's only temporary. I don't get involved in the smartphone wars.
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More proof of the 5.5
Its time for the deniers to capitulate

 

Proof my ass -- only that Apple uses non sequential model numbers for products in the same line.

 

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possible lineup from my contact in the middle east:

 

iPhone 5C - $450

iPhone Color - $550 - basically 5S in the same plastic shell as the 5C

iPhone Air - $650 - 4.7 inch

iPhone Pro - $750 - 5.5 inch, Sapphire

 

From now on Apple won't sell any mid-level phones with metal cases.  Its just way to expensive.

 

The 5C and iPhone Color will have the exact same case.  This will cut down on production costs big time.  The iPhone Color will come in additional colors however. 

 

The line between high-end and mid-end Apple phones will be clear as day.  Plastic = mid-end.  Metal = high-end.

 

In 2015 the transition will be complete.  No longer will we have iPhone's with numbers.

 

iPhone Color - $450 - 4 inch

iPhone Color - $550 - 4.7 inch

iPhone Air - $650 - 4.7

iPhone Pro - $750 - 5.5

 

So now you are a budding analyst also¡

 

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Personally, I think there is a good chance that there is no 5.5" handset waiting in the wings.

 

Apple's natural inclination is not to proliferate many size variants. There are two screen sizes each for the iPad, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and iMac.

 

From a manufacturing perspective, this simplifies product design and supply chain management. It also likely improves gross margins.

 

From the developers' perspective -- particularly on the iOS side -- limited variants makes app development more manageable, with fewer combinations of screen sizes, aspect ratios, and pixel resolution.

 

iPhone is 50% of Apple's revenue/profit.

 

I think they are willing to make an exception for their cash cow....

 

You have got to be kidding. A couple companies now are copying Apple's metallic cases (which are more expensive) while also struggling not to lose their asses on the cheap plastic ones they make now. They claim that it is too difficult to make a metal case that allows users to change a battery. You claim Apple's revenue or profit or both (that would be interesting) is 50% but a metal case is just too expensive.

 

Its OK to be excited about a rumor that doesn't seem to have much backing but OMG please get back on your meds before posting any more rants like this; or maybe off your meds ;-).

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Nothing like another out of context article to add fuel to the "2 models" fire.

 

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Another explanation for the two model numbers would be if Apple decided to stick the guts of the iPhone 5s into a plastic body; that would require a new model number (just like the iPhone 5c phones).

This is almost definitely what this represents. The iPhone 6 and the new $99 offering, probably 5c-like, with 5s internals.

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More proof of the 5.5
Its time for the deniers to capitulate

Precisely the opposite. Other than 'rumor', there has never been anything to indicate that Apple will do anything besides introduce 1 flagship model, and 1 revised model for the lower entry price. The 5s and 5c would have been prime examples of two brand new model numbers.

We'll see the same thing with the 6 and 6c or whatever the heck they call them.

 

What we won't see is Apple present the iPhone 6 with its amazing new well-thought-out 4.7" display........and then say, "Oh yeah there's also a 5.5". This is the REALLY good new iPhone. Forget what we just showed you."

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The iPhone 5c wasn't really new. 

Except it was. Completely.

 

Totally new physical design.

Totally new internal design (despite the SPECS being the same as the iPhone 5)

Totally new manufacturing process.

Totally new name. 

 

= New Model Numbers. 

 

It was new. I don't care if it takes the same photos or benchmarks the same as an iPhone 5 did.

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Regardless of your opinions about the manufacturing process, if you look at Apple marketing department's behavior, it looks like they do not consider the iPhone 5c to really be a "new device" -- they have put very little effort into marketing the device.

 

Let's face it: the iPhone 5c is the iPhone 5 with lipstick. They had to redesign the PCB, but the other major components are basically the same.

 

Apple does not treat the iPhone 5c as a new device in their marketing efforts nor do they call out to it as a new device in their SEC filings.

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More proof of the 5.5
Its time for the deniers to capitulate

Not so; so far, it's a Thai.
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Is there a TieLand in Thailand?

Can Thais tie ties, or do they find it too Thai-ersome?

Woo! I'm on a roll! DON'T STOP ME NOW
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"Wednesday", really? Come on guys. Spell check!
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Another explanation for the two model numbers would be if Apple decided to stick the guts of the iPhone 5s into a plastic body; that would require a new model number (just like the iPhone 5c phones).

They will put the iPhone5S in a plastic body and call it iPhoneColor. They will not give it the vaunted iPhone6 name

iPhone 6
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Personally, I think there is a good chance that there is no 5.5" handset waiting in the wings.

Apple's natural inclination is not to proliferate many size variants. There are two screen sizes each for the iPad, MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, and iMac.

From a manufacturing perspective, this simplifies product design and supply chain management. It also likely improves gross margins.

From the developers' perspective -- particularly on the iOS side -- limited variants makes app development more manageable, with fewer combinations of screen sizes, aspect ratios, and pixel resolution.

iPhone is 50% of Apple's revenue/profit.

I think they are willing to make an exception for their cash cow.

3 sizes is no problem for them. 
Hell even HTC makes 4 different sizes.

From my viewpoint I don't even consider the iPad and iPhone as two separate lines.  I consider them one line with 4 different sizes.

That shows how blinkered your view of the iPad is.
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