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Apple on Monday issued its sixth beta releases of OS X Yosemite and Xcode 6 to developers for testing ahead of their scheduled launches this fall, though no new beta of iOS 8 was released.




Developers as can now download OS X Yosemite Developer Preview 6, which is identified as build 14A329f, from the Mac App Store. Separately, Apple's developer tools have also been given an update, with Xcode 6 beta 6 available to test.

Their release comes two weeks after the fifth betas were supplied.

People familiar with OS X Yosemite Developer Preview 6 say it comes with a number of new built-in wallpapers. Various system icons have been tweaked or changed as well, including in the System Preferences screen and battery icon in the taskbar. The new beta also adds a "Do Not Disturb" switch for Notification center.


New OS X Yosemite wallpaper. Click for full-size.


Absent thus far from Monday's updates is a sixth beta of iOS 8. Previously, new betas for both Yosemite and iOS 8 were released side by side.

Apple has focused on what it calls "continuity" between OS X and iOS with its next major updates, as users will be able to seamlessly hand off content from their iPhone or their iPad to their Mac when within range. In addition, users will be able to answer and place calls or respond to text messages through Bluetooth connectivity to an iPhone.

Continuing betas for OS X Yosemite, but not iOS 8, may signal that the Mac software update could again arrive later than its iPhone and iPad counterparts, leaving users in the Apple ecosystem waiting to be able to utilize the continuity between both platforms. In recent years, OS X releases have arrived after iOS updates, but this year marked the first time that betas were issued on a consistent schedule for the two separate operating systems.
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New wallpaper’s pretty. Less blindingly bright than the other one; I like it.

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New wallpaper’s pretty. Less blindingly bright than the other one; I like it.


I'm really diggin' this one:

 

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This is wrong. While Yosemite beta 6 is out. Xcode 6 Beta 6 is not yet available from the developer site.
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I'm really diggin' this one:

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Has the public Yosemite beta been updated at all since its launch?

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For how long did you give it a try? Every new program takes a while, but iWork really pays off – but well, that's for me. I can imagine environments where Office is simply better suited. 

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I gave iWork a try, but I've been an Office user for nearly two decades (since Office 95 for Windows) and it best suits my needs.

I was just kidding I have been using it since it was only on the Mac in 1984. Multiplan, later Excel and Word etc.. Personally I always preferred VisiCalc.
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Has the public Yosemite beta been updated at all since its launch?

I believe this is its 3rd public beta.

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As much as I can see on developer.apple.com Xcode is in Beta 5.
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This is wrong. While Yosemite beta 6 is out. Xcode 6 Beta 6 is not yet available from the developer site.

I noticed this too after the download started. I wonder if they pulled it. The download definitely says beta 6, and I was reading the release notes, but can no longer find either - just beta 5 download and notes.
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This is wrong. While Yosemite beta 6 is out. Xcode 6 Beta 6 is not yet available from the developer site.


Sometimes it takes awhile before it shows up in all points around the country - I thought that was maybe what was happening since I didn't see X6b6 but did see Y10.10p6. I have not seen anything official from Apple yet.

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I believe this is its 3rd public beta.

 

There hasn't been any updates to the first public beta of Yosemite. Why, I don't know. It would seem like 6 DP releases into OS X you could have made some type of OS X public beta update. 

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
I believe this is its 3rd public beta.

 

The public beta got updated?

 

Changes I’m Finding

Updated as I find them

 

 

Changes to System Preferences. General now shows a Yosemite-colored desktop, Notifications, iCloud, Printers & Scanners, Sound, Energy Saver, Security & Privacy, and Date & Time are different.

 

I think Extensions and Parental Controls may have changed, too.

 

Throughout OS X, Energy Saver has changed from a real lightbulb to a compact fluorescent to an LED. Why is the printer icon still an inkjet?! :\

 

Also, the dropdown menu for selecting files has had its minimum size increased. I think it’s mainly to give a larger file preview.

 

 

New icons in Safari.

 

In Safari you can now manage what sites utilize the “quick search”. Whereby you type something into the URL field and Safari will give you the option to auto-search on a specific site.

 

 

The Privacy page has been rearranged, but I don’t see any new options. Know what I’d like to see in a browser? More cookie options.

 

Specifically, LOCKING COOKIES. The ability to designate certain cookies to remain on your machine when you hit the “delete all” button.

And MANUAL BLOCKING of cookies. The ability to designate ONLY certain sites to NEVER save cookies, etc.

 

Also, under Advanced, for those people who want it:

 

They’ve sorted out the volume popup now. I don’t like the new icon. The different appearance at the bottom of the square is due to a graphical glitch in the screenshot. It’s a smooth gradient when actually looking at it.

 

 

Script Editor, Image Capture, and Font Book have also changed. I get WHY it looks like this, I just hate it. Too cluttered.

 

I liked the old one better (not the pre-Yosemite, the one from previous DPs), but I still replace it with my own.


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There hasn't been any updates to the first public beta of Yosemite. Why, I don't know. It would seem like 6 DP releases into OS X you could have made some type of OS X public beta update. 
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The public beta got updated?

I guess not. I assumed that once the public betas were released that they would be in sync with the rest of the developer betas.

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I guess not. I assumed that once the public betas were released that they would be in sync with the rest of the developer betas.


I thought I heard both the DP and public betas were going to be released every 2 weeks (basically every 2 mondays), but I guess its just the DP thats getting those updates. If they're never going to release updates to the public beta whats the sense in doing a public beta. 

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I am also still on the first public beta. And AFAIK there has not been a subsequent release. 

 

Makes me wonder why. Has the response to the first public beta been so overwhelming or on the contrary, no (useful) feedback, maybe?

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I was just kidding I have been using it since it was only on the Mac in 1984. Multiplan, later Excel and Word etc.. Personally I always preferred VisiCalc.


I followed a very similar path though I used VisiCalc on an HP85 with about a 3" screen and 8K RAM! Then when I got my Mac the first software I bought was Multiplan, then Chart, Word, and later Excel.

 

I had to wait for what seemed like forever to get Lightspeed Pascal my local store let me use MacNosy to get a copy of the demo they had but it was buggy as heck. I bought the production version of Lightspeed Pascal but was already dabbling in 68K assembler and MegaMax C before Lightspeed C came out. Doesn't seem like 30 years ago -- yikes 30 years!

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Originally Posted by WonkoTheSane View Post

Makes me wonder why. Has the response to the first public beta been so overwhelming or on the contrary, no (useful) feedback, maybe?


I doubt they were going to give any more than one public beta, ever.

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I doubt they were going to give any more than one public beta, ever.

If they don't update the public betas people are testing then what good is it to have a public beta in the first place? Is that one incident that was equal to DP beta 4 really going to give them all the info they need before the official release?

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If they don't update the public betas people are testing then what good is it to have a public beta in the first place? Is that one incident that was equal to DP beta 4 really going to give them all the info they need before the official release?

 

Given previous OS X adoption rates, yes. Do enough people care about the beta that much? It’s just a beta.

 

I can’t remember. Did the Kodiak beta get updated during its run?

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Whoops: Quoted the wrong post but too lazy to find the right one. 

 

I assume that the DP's have more drastic changes involving the API that developers interact with, so more updates are pushed out to meet those more sensitive issues vs the betas. 

 

There are some general user facing issues that have been fixed I'm sure, but, there's no need in re-rolling a new build of 10.10 then distribute it to (just) a million users if there is only a few icon updates or only a series small individual patches - overall just more efficient to wrap multiple DPs into a Beta then test after more bulk user-end changes have been made. 

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I followed a very similar path though I used VisiCalc on an HP85 with about a 3" screen and 8K RAM! Then when I got my Mac the first software I bought was Multiplan, then Chart, Word, and later Excel.

I had to wait for what seemed like forever to get Lightspeed Pascal my local store let me use MacNosy to get a copy of the demo they had but it was buggy as heck. I bought the production version of Lightspeed Pascal but was already dabbling in 68K assembler and MegaMax C before Lightspeed C came out. Doesn't seem like 30 years ago -- yikes 30 years!

Time to change your handle to Damn_Im_Old ... 1wink.gif

I will forever remember the expressions on peoples's faces, especially my dad's, when I demonstrated a 'what if' in VisiCalc on an early Apple ][. The fact it was slow and the changes literally rippled actually made it more spectacular to watch. My dad's first reaction on seeing a calculation done that he had to run through his company's main fame department monthly and wait several days for, was 'Bloody hell!".
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I doubt they were going to give any more than one public beta, ever.


That's my feeling, too. Even though I don't see much sense in just one public beta.

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It looks like XCode 6 beta 6 has been pulled - I downloaded it earlier and definitely had Beta5 and Beta6 sat next to each other in my Applications folder but Beta 6 reported itself as being damaged and prompted me to delete it on first launch.

I deleted the .dmg and went back to the developer site to try and redownload and now I'm only seeing Beta 5...
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In regard to Xcode 6 beta 6 -- it was available and I dloaded it successfully -- but it wouldn't run.

If you go on the beta developer forums site it tells you how to remove the quarantine so Xcode 6 beta 6 will run successfully … I'm running it now!

I think they pulled it because of the quarantine -- or maybe there's something in there that they didn't want people to see yet!
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There was a problem with the code signing of Xcode Beta 6. I assume they pulled it to rectify the issue.

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I had to laugh when the latest Yosemite's Airdrop, running on a Mac mini, insisted on me selecting 'connect to older Macs' before it would talk to my brand new Mac Pro! Cheeky Mac mini!
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That's my feeling, too. Even though I don't see much sense in just one public beta.

Apple only released one public version with no updates with the first ever OS X too didn't they? I still have the Disk. I assume devs (I wasn't one at the time) had multiple versions?
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Given previous OS X adoption rates, yes. Do enough people care about the beta that much? It’s just a beta.

 

I can’t remember. Did the Kodiak beta get updated during its run?


If this is what Apple is going to do, then there was no sense in doing the public beta program to begin with. I've submitted lots of feedback and how am I ever going to see if it gets fixed before the GM is released. Basically by not releasing public betas continuously, they're wasting people's time. 

 

IMO, they should have been releasing updates to the public beta all along. The more people that can test this the better as it puts Yosemite in more situations where things can happen. Developers can't do everything. 

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If this is what Apple is going to do, then there was no sense in doing the public beta program to begin with. I've submitted lots of feedback and how am I ever going to see if it gets fixed before the GM is released. Basically by not releasing public betas continuously, they're wasting people's time. 

 

IMO, they should have been releasing updates to the public beta all along. The more people that can test this the better as it puts Yosemite in more situations where things can happen. Developers can't do everything. 

I don't doubt that Apple could do more frequent beta releases and get more feedback, but I don't see why just doing 1 would be a "waste of time."  If something is reported as a bug based on the beta and is fixed in the final release, it's all good, right?  Why is it essential that it be observed as fixed in an intermediate beta?

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I don't doubt that Apple could do more frequent beta releases and get more feedback, but I don't see why just doing 1 would be a "waste of time."  If something is reported as a bug based on the beta and is fixed in the final release, it's all good, right?  Why is it essential that it be observed as fixed in an intermediate beta?

 

That doesn't mean there won't be further issues as a result of adding things. Sometimes you fix one thing and break something else. All in all, the more people the better. 

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Agreed, bu

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That doesn't mean there won't be further issues as a result of adding things. Sometimes you fix one thing and break something else. All in all, the more people the better. 

Agreed, but Apple has to balance the benefits and costs of doing public beta releases.  For whatever reason, they are taking it slow.

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The settings icons are a fucking mess. Why can't they get one guy to redesign them all? They're all different styles, complexities, flat vs gradients, different degrees of attractiveness and ugliness, etc. Some are completely redone, while others barely touched. Such a sloppy and odd job. I don't get it. 

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If this is what Apple is going to do, then there was no sense in doing the public beta program to begin with. I've submitted lots of feedback and how am I ever going to see if it gets fixed before the GM is released. Basically by not releasing public betas continuously, they're wasting people's time. 

 

IMO, they should have been releasing updates to the public beta all along. The more people that can test this the better as it puts Yosemite in more situations where things can happen. Developers can't do everything. 

 

"Wasting people's time"? Apple didn't release a public beta for your benefit, but for theirs. Its not a waste of time if the feedback has an effect on the final product. You're not entitled to see your feedback being addressed before then. 

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I am also still on the first public beta. And AFAIK there has not been a subsequent release. 

Makes me wonder why. Has the response to the first public beta been so overwhelming or on the contrary, no (useful) feedback, maybe?

No useful feedback is probably an issue but you need to realize that Apple had no intention of keeping the public beta in sync with the developer releases. they have been pretty clear on this.

As to "no useful feedback" that is a real possibility or maybe more exactly feedback overload. Lets put it this way, I have some background in software and as such producing a good bug report isn't always easy. Users certainly can contribute and highlight surface problems, that is things that are obvious from the surface, but are pretty useless when it comes to describing bugs in the SDK for example.
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The settings icons are a fucking mess. Why can't they get one guy to redesign them all? They're all different styles, complexities, flat vs gradients, different degrees of attractiveness and ugliness, etc. Some are completely redone, while others barely touched. Such a sloppy and odd job. I don't get it. 

After I read your rant on my MBP I pulled up my Yosemite server over ADR and put the Mavericks and Yosemite System Prefs side by side. I am assuming that's what you mean? Not sure I see any issues, just a refreshingly new look. Nothing to get your knickers in a bunch over.1smile.gif

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This is now two developer betas that have come out since the public beta released. Any idea when the public beta will be updated?
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Apple only released one public version with no updates with the first ever OS X too didn't they? I still have the Disk. I assume devs (I wasn't one at the time) had multiple versions?

Smile. I almost forgot. That's already some time ago.

I remember to have it installed. But I cannot recall if there was a dedicated call from apple to send big reports then.
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