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Is it going to be easy?  Of course not.  That's part of delighting your user community.  Mask the complexity with a UI that just works.  Apple's been doing that for decades.  Remember, a touch screen phone without lag was hard too, not all that long ago.

The "Apple can do anything" mantra doesn't seem to hold up here. Sure, they could do it, but with everything else already in place I can only see a major disruption in order for that to happen. Imagine if you had a family of 5 that all used the same app and you had to install that app for every user until the developer updated that app to take advantage of new APIs that don't yet exist in iOS 8? That's a nightmare on every level, especially considering how they could offer a Guest account that only had basic access to Safari and some other apps and would log out and erase any personal data after the person stopped using it. Wouldn't that be a better first step if they were going to go down that route?
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Why would you need one fingerprint tied to more than one profile

Huh?
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(and you have 10)?

Only 5 fingers can be recorded right now.
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Also, OS X has had avatars for years, not sure why that's a big deal.

That's my point, Mac OS X was design with multiple users in mind. You have per user app details stored in ~/Library with a clean app in /Applications. I don't think iOS is setup that way nor are apps designed that way.
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And, yes, you will still need a passcode for certain situations (iOS update, logging in after the device was powered off. etc.)  Not sure why that would be insurmountable, since we basically have that now. 

So 'a' passcode, from some primary account owner that we'll call the Administrator. So the father lets his kid use the family iPad but the kid just washed his hands and they are still a little damp which causes Touch ID not to work. After several tries the device now requires a passcode to access it. That's why each user would need their own passcode.

So you want to figure out your sibling's passcode. You have kind of seen her type it and you know it's only a 4-digit PIN that starts with '42'. You start trying one of the 100 combinations but after a couple failed attempts it warns you that it will erase the device once you reach 10 incorrect attempts. It also warns you that these errors are being recorded and sent to the administrator's account. You then get the brilliant idea to go into your account to change your password knowing that without any associated username the system can't allow more than one account to have the same password. You start changing your password until it tells you can't use that one. You then log out and see if that's your sibling's account. You need associated usernames if you're going to have authentication.

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Well, the Mini Retina is cheaper, and I always found it strange that it was equally as powerful as the Air. In my opinion, the larger model should always be a little better and a bit more powerful.
They increased the price to $399. No way that price increase would fly if all they did was add retina screen. Larger screen device should only be better/more powerful if it has additional functionally. Last year the Air didn't have any functionality that the mini didn't have. It's possible this year that changes I guess.
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Its not just about cost of making the Mini.

Its about making it weaker so more people choose the higher margin Air
Then why even offer the mini. That would force everyone to the higher margin Air. 1smile.gif

So when Cook and Ive say Apple is all about making the best products what they really mean is Apple is all about making sure the products with the highest profit margins sell the most. 1smile.gif
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This may infuriate software developers that want to bring new capabilities to all platforms though.

Apple's iOS developer guides have addressed development best practices and RAM considerations since the very beginning of the iOS platform, and Apple has given developers the developer tools to be aware of device resource usage. And iOS developers who formerly came from the world of Palm OS and Windows Mobile development have already been well trained in the art of memory management--at least the ones I've met. Now, undisciplined PC developers who have no experience writing mobile apps might be these allegedly "infuriated developers" that you're hypothesizing about.

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Apple's iOS developer guides have addressed development best practices and RAM considerations since the very beginning of the iOS platform, and Apple has given developers the developer tools to be aware of device resource usage. And iOS developers who formerly came from the world of Palm OS and Windows Mobile development have already been well trained in the art of memory management--at least the ones I've met. Now, undisciplined PC developers who have no experience writing mobile apps might be these allegedly "infuriated developers" that you're hypothesizing about.

I'm glad you brought up the guidelines. Apple had guidelines to prevent developers from getting locked into a resolution because they planned for this change. What guidelines have they lined up to allow for one app to be run across multiple users in iOS that would prevent any change needing to be done to the app if followed?

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Originally Posted by stuffe View Post

See the title of the article? Does it mention the iPad Mini anywhere? 

 Rumor: Apple to bump 'iPad Air 2' RAM to 2GB, keep second-gen Retina iPad mini at 1GB - Page 2

 

Gee.

 
Accept that other people might take the conversation in a different direction than you do

 

So don’t reply with a complete non-sequitur, then? We’re talking about RAM and you say something completely meaningless about the display? What answer do you expect?

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Gee.

 

So don’t reply with a complete non-sequitur, then? We’re talking about RAM and you say something completely meaningless about the display? What answer do you expect?

 

Well done, I made a mistake.  Good spot.  Now go take down everyone else talking about running apps 2 at a time etc, seeing as you are the self appointed on-topic police.  My initial mention of the display, as already indicated, was because *you* questioned why someone thought smaller might mean more expensive.  So, now you have proven your alpha male status, please carry on talking about RAM.  Be sure to stay on topic now, so far as I can tell ragging on because someone mentioned something that you don't want to talk about isn't on topic either.  Also, weren't you ignoring me? If not, please do so.

 


Also, please tell me which bit of the above is you talking about RAM? If you had ignored me like you have said is happening, why are you still picking at it like a scab?  Just wondering.  Seeing as you're so important.


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2gigs of ram would definitely help apps like Photoshop Touch and Procreate.


And Safari.

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Its not just about cost of making the Mini.

 

Its about making it weaker so more people choose the higher margin Air


That's probably the most incorrect thing you possibly come up with....considering the last iteration of both iPads brought total feature/spec parity to the lineup, from the chip to the display to the battery. They are the same machine, except one has a slightly bigger screen and slightly higher clock speed (merely because the larger battery allows for it).

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 The best reason I can see for *not* giving us 2Gb now, is so we can have it next time. Tic toc etc, give them an easy win next time for the 6s etc...
I agree in the sense that Apple may not want to upgrade every component on a IPhone or iPad (usually takes two generations). This way they don't get into a spec race needlessly.
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See the title of the article? Does it mention the iPad Mini anywhere? Get over yourself. 


Glad we could clear that up. Accept that other people might take the conversation in a different direction than you do, and that it's not your forum or don’t be surprised when you get replied to.

Thank you.
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And Safari.

Yes, exactly, Safari, I've lost so many long posts in forums because I needed to answer a text in Viber or Skype, only to come back and Safari had refreshed the page. AppleInsider thankfully saw this shortcoming and saves your work. Other sites aren't so considered. I now use Office to draft my posts when using my iPad. I mostly use my Nokia 2520 to surf as I prefer a desktop browser to mobile.
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Originally Posted by stuffe View Post
My initial mention of the display, as already indicated, was because *you* questioned why someone thought smaller might mean more expensive. 


We’re. discussing. RAM. chips. Is this really that confusing for you to grasp? Or have you just done no thinking of your own whatsoever before posting? They’re not changing anything else about the machine. They’re not changing the display panel. It’s remaining the same panel. The panel that exists now. The panel they have already made. The price of the panel is already known. This is a continuance of the manufacture of the panel. RAM, like NAND, like CPUs, on the other hand, deprecate over time as higher capacities become available. What cost $20 last year costs $10 this year. What cost $40 last year costs $20 this year. So, in a general sense, they can update things and keep the same margins because tech gets better. They won’t be affecting component cost by doing this. It remains the same. Like the panel. Whose cost is already known. Whose cost is already factored into the price of the machine. Whose cost, quite probably, IS GOING DOWN ANYWAY because Apple 1. knows how to make them now, 2. makes more of them and 3. because it’s the same tech being carried through years, as mentioned before.

 

His statement as to the increase in cost of manufacture is certainly valid in a desktop/laptop sense, particularly regarding circuit boards (and some individual components, such as hard drives). But we’re not discussing that. We’re discussing RAM chips. And it’s no more difficult or costly to put a RAM chip on an iPad mini than it is an iPad Air.

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That's probably the most incorrect thing you possibly come up with....considering the last iteration of both iPads brought total feature/spec parity to the lineup, from the chip to the display to the battery. They are the same machine, except one has a slightly bigger screen and slightly higher clock speed (merely because the larger battery allows for it).
I'm sure Sog wouldn't have done that. Sog would have raised the price to $399 and and stuck an A6 in it. All about making sure the profit margins are as high as possible.
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Yes, exactly, Safari, I've lost so many long posts in forums because I needed to answer a text in Viber or Skype, only to come back and Safari had refreshed the page. AppleInsider thankfully saw this shortcoming and saves your work. Other sites aren't so considered. I now use Office to draft my posts when using my iPad. I mostly use my Nokia 2520 to surf as I prefer a desktop browser to mobile.
I wonder if Tim Cook runs into this experience since he does 80% of his work on an iPad.
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I wonder if Tim Cook runs into this experience since he does 80% of his work on an iPad.

What's your point, because Tim is satisfied I should be too. We all use our devices differently and frankly if all I had was an iPad, I would probably go crazy. Not because it's bad or anything, it's just no where near as powerful as my Macbook or Surface.


Tim is fine with it so should I be, where do you guys come up with this stiff.
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Tell us what you really think. No, really!
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What's your point, because Tim is satisfied I should be too. We all use our devices differently and frankly if all I had was an iPad, I would probably go crazy. Not because it's bad or anything, it's just no where near as powerful as my Macbook or Surface.


Tim is fine with it so should I be, where do you guys come up with this stiff.

Hey guys, don't know if you got the note from Commandant Skil, but can we specifically talk about RAM chips please, or he's likely to blow a browser tab or something 1smile.gif
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Originally Posted by stuffe View Post
Hey guys, don't know if you got the note from Commandant Skil, but can we specifically talk about RAM chips please, or he's likely to blow a browser tab or something 1smile.gif

 

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Tell us what you really think. No, really!

I think its great that Apple is adding more RAM. That's it. My current little workarounds have zero baring on how I feel about the iPad. Every device I own has its quirks, there is no such thing as the perfect device.
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Let's see, for $100 more you'll get these on top of current iPad Air in 2 months:

1. A8 chip

2. 2GB of RAM

3. Touch ID

 

I guess it's worth the money for pre-iPad Air owners to upgrade.

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2gigs of ram would definitely help apps like Photoshop Touch and Procreate.
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2gigs of ram would definitely help apps like Photoshop Touch and Procreate.

While I personally haven't had a problem, The iPad is doing a lot more than I ever thought it could do. This is due to the imagination of the app writers/designers and the almost limitless ability of the iPad to rise to the occasion. However, I too think 2 Gb RAM would be nice to see. This will be especially important if Apple makes the iPad Air multi-tasking with a split screen.
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What would be nice - if Touch ID is introduced along with seamless multi-user experience on iPad - personalized folders, mail boxes, preferences, etc.
Not sure if Apple is going to do that ever as they would prefer each family member to own a separate iPad.

I don't think the iPad will be usable by multiple people any time in the near future. It's just not the way the product was intended. Think of it like a toothbrush... really a one-person tool. What you seem to be describing is an MBA laptop... go for it, the OS is ready to go for multiusers.
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Hmm. Sounds wrong. They made a point of unifying the platform with the iPad 5 and iPad mini 2. Why would they split it again?

It's all designed to instill in you a desire to trade up to the latest iPad/iPhone/Mac. It's more then just that you'll want the latest model, but you'll have good talking points to wheedle your spouse into agreeing that you need it, you really do. Additionally, there is no "splitting" the platform. There's nothing going to be wrong about the older iPads and what not, They will continue to run just fine and can be upgraded to the next iOS. But, sooner or later, like the first model and the iPad 2, it just won't cut it for responsiveness or certain memory heavy apps.

Remember, some people don't ask much out of their iPad in the form of performance, so it's the super-users that will find only the latest and greatest is what they need... or they'll just DIE!
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Let's see, for $100 more you'll get these on top of current iPad Air in 2 months:
1. A8 chip
2. 2GB of RAM
3. Touch ID

I guess it's worth the money for pre-iPad Air owners to upgrade.
You think Apple is going to charge $100 more to increase the RAM to 2GB? Not sure why Apple would start raising prices on iPad when YOY sales have been declining. Isn't the price of technology supposed to come down over time not get more expensive?

If that's what Apple does they won't be getting a sale from this Air owner. But if they do all that and keep the price the same I'll be one of the first in line to buy.
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 The best reason I can see for *not* giving us 2Gb now, is so we can have it next time. Tic toc etc, give them an easy win next time for the 6s etc...
I agree in the sense that Apple may not want to upgrade every component on a IPhone or iPad (usually takes two generations). This way they don't get into a spec race needlessly.

I got the sense that Apple will allow a split screen multi-tasking in the iOS8, if so, that alone should call for more RAM. Especially since RAM is about $11 per Gb.

What I never heard discussed is whether Apple essentially doubled all the RAM when they went to 64-bit architecture. (16Gb of 32 bit words = 8 Gb of 64 bit words.)
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Since I'll be getting the Air 2, this rumor sounds good to me!

 

The more power and more ram, the better!

 

I couldn't care less how much RAM the new iPad has. I trust Apple to create the best experience possible.

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1) I still haven't heard a solid solution as to how they would implement that securely without requiring installing apps for each user account or how they would use a single app installation per device that would infuse the proper user files as needed, or how they will prevent a major power and performance hit for keeping accounts and apps running on other users, like with OS X and Windows.
It is pretty obvious that the designers of iPad saw it as a personal device not a shared device. As such there is no clean way to multi users at this point in time.
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2) Perhaps the new Family Sharing plan is a step in that direction. Perhaps the longterm goal is to allow a single account with multiple users to use a single device interchangeably. If there is anything that I see that could lead to that solution I think that is it.
Frankly all the people whining about multiple users can dive head first into a frozen lake for all I care. The device simply was never designed for multiple users nor should it be upgraded to support multiple users.
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3) Even if you have Touch ID you would still need to have a username or avatar for each account because it's possible that there could be a duplicate for either the fingerprint or passcode used to secure the device.

The use of Touch ID just further highlights that these are devices designed for personal use.

 

Well said.

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Its not just about cost of making the Mini.

 

Its about making it weaker so more people choose the higher margin Air


That's probably the most incorrect thing you possibly come up with....considering the last iteration of both iPads brought total feature/spec parity to the lineup, from the chip to the display to the battery. They are the same machine, except one has a slightly bigger screen and slightly higher clock speed (merely because the larger battery allows for it).

 

There are more differences than that - they have different quality screens, for a start.


Edited by Benjamin Frost - 8/20/14 at 5:04pm
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And Safari.

Yes, exactly, Safari, I've lost so many long posts in forums because I needed to answer a text in Viber or Skype, only to come back and Safari had refreshed the page. AppleInsider thankfully saw this shortcoming and saves your work. Other sites aren't so considered. I now use Office to draft my posts when using my iPad. I mostly use my Nokia 2520 to surf as I prefer a desktop browser to mobile.

 

With iOS 8, I think you'll be able to answer texts within notifications, so you'll never need to leave Safari.

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Yes, exactly, Safari, I've lost so many long posts in forums because I needed to answer a text in Viber or Skype, only to come back and Safari had refreshed the page. AppleInsider thankfully saw this shortcoming and saves your work. Other sites aren't so considered. I now use Office to draft my posts when using my iPad. I mostly use my Nokia 2520 to surf as I prefer a desktop browser to mobile.
I wonder if Tim Cook runs into this experience since he does 80% of his work on an iPad.

 

I imagine he would use iMessage and FaceTime, which would work better with Safari than Skype or Viber.

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Wilkommen to AI, Fraulein Relic! My German's a little rusty.

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2gigs of ram would definitely help apps like Photoshop Touch and Procreate.
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2gigs of ram would definitely help apps like Photoshop Touch and Procreate.

While I personally haven't had a problem, The iPad is doing a lot more than I ever thought it could do. This is due to the imagination of the app writers/designers and the almost limitless ability of the iPad to rise to the occasion. However, I too think 2 Gb RAM would be nice to see. This will be especially important if Apple makes the iPad Air multi-tasking with a split screen.
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What would be nice - if Touch ID is introduced along with seamless multi-user experience on iPad - personalized folders, mail boxes, preferences, etc.
Not sure if Apple is going to do that ever as they would prefer each family member to own a separate iPad.

I don't think the iPad will be usable by multiple people any time in the near future. It's just not the way the product was intended. Think of it like a toothbrush... really a one-person tool. What you seem to be describing is an MBA laptop... go for it, the OS is ready to go for multiusers.
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Hmm. Sounds wrong. They made a point of unifying the platform with the iPad 5 and iPad mini 2. Why would they split it again?

It's all designed to instill in you a desire to trade up to the latest iPad/iPhone/Mac. It's more then just that you'll want the latest model, but you'll have good talking points to wheedle your spouse into agreeing that you need it, you really do. Additionally, there is no "splitting" the platform. There's nothing going to be wrong about the older iPads and what not, They will continue to run just fine and can be upgraded to the next iOS. But, sooner or later, like the first model and the iPad 2, it just won't cut it for responsiveness or certain memory heavy apps.

Remember, some people don't ask much out of their iPad in the form of performance, so it's the super-users that will find only the latest and greatest is what they need... or they'll just DIE!

 

Well put, Macky.

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I couldn't care less how much RAM the new iPad has. I trust Apple to create the best experience possible.
Then that means the new iPads will have more RAM. When I go into the diagnostics & usage log on my Air I see a ton of LowMemory crash reports.
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The Safari tab refresh thing drives me up a tree. I'd upgrade to a new iPad if they just solved that.

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The Safari tab refresh thing drives me up a tree. I'd upgrade to a new iPad if they just solved that.

Good to hear!
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I got the sense that Apple will allow a split screen multi-tasking in the iOS8, if so, that alone should call for more RAM. Especially since RAM is about $11 per Gb.

What I never heard discussed is whether Apple essentially doubled all the RAM when they went to 64-bit architecture. (16Gb of 32 bit words = 8 Gb of 64 bit words.)

I would not be surprised if the Ram was doubled to 2GB.   I think its been at 1GB since the 3rd generation.

 

Split screen and multi-user support would be useful for both consumer and business users.    I think they will come but have no idea if they will come in IOS 8 or in IOS9.    In the short term I think Apple will continue to enhance their Continuity functionality between IOS and OSX.   Apple is very good about releasing hardware that will be future software is able to utilize.   As an example I believe that the iPad Air 2 will get TouchID this year  and then next year different users will be able to log in/switch using the touchID.      

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Hmm. Sounds wrong. They made a point of unifying the platform with the iPad 5 and iPad mini 2. Why would they split it again?
I think it rumor of a difference between any of iPads/iPhones is wrong.
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Well, the Mini Retina is cheaper, and I always found it strange that it was equally as powerful as the Air. In my opinion, the larger model should always be a little better and a bit more powerful.
Not really, some prefer each form factor, it's called choice.
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I’m all for gimping an unusable tablet, but I’m more for unification of a platform. It makes a ton of sense to be able to have the confidence to go into a store, buy from a tablet lineup, and know that the software you want WILL work on that model. Also, the iPad mini is already gimped. Hi-yo!
I don't see point of diversity of tablets, I though apple advertises they don't short there smaller tablet like rest of market?
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nope.

Its about maximizing profits.

Makes no sense you get the same powered tablet but smaller.
Usually that means it should cost MORE.

If they weaken the Mini more will choose the Air which has higher margins, revenue, and profit.
How's that a problem, it's $100(20%) difference, there probably very simular profit. Plus apple does not cheap off on Mac book airs at there $100 difference, but they do with Mac pros with a $700 difference which is a much larger 40% difference. They should not on iPhone as well with it supposed $100 difference.
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Especially now with the larger iphones coming.

IMO, Apple wants to cannabalize the iPadMini to death.  At $399 they make hardly nothing.  Mini's should really be a niche product and weakening it will help in that regard.  It will the 5C of tablets.   In fact they should replace the Mini's case with plastic to increase margins.

They rather have people pay $500 for the Air or $700 for a large subsidized phone.
I doubt any this true
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I agree. If the models are equally as powerful, then Apple should raise the price of the Mini.

 

It doesn't make sense to offer an Air for $500, when an equally as powerful Mini is $100 cheaper.

 

Hell, they could even be the same price, if you ask me.

 

 

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Well, the Mini Retina is cheaper, and I always found it strange that it was equally as powerful as the Air. In my opinion, the larger model should always be a little better and a bit more powerful.

 

 

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Since I'll be getting the Air 2, this rumor sounds good to me!

 

The more power and more ram, the better!

 

I'm not exactly sure of what you are getting at here... are you actually arguing for Apple to *raise* their prices on a product?  Where is the written rule that larger must also be more powerful?  There are people who value both power and size and would prefer not to have to get a bigger machine just to get the same performance/storage options.

 

The mini already has some disadvantages that merit it's lower price -- the screen quality is not as good as the Air or even the 3rd/4th gen iPads, the clock speed is slightly lower and for some applications, the smaller screen makes it less useful (though the majority of apps that I use are just fine on the mini).

 

Apple has similar pricing for the MacBook Air as well.  The 11" and 13" are also $100 different in price and can be configured in the exact same ways.  Are you also arguing for Apple to either gimp the 11" model or raise it's price to be closer to the 13"?

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+1, the only downside is what must be a practically immeasurable increase in CPU size, plus an increase in power requirements to actually use it. The former must be a non issue, the latter may be a consideration but probably not one that causes genuine problems with the battery size anticipated in the newer phones.

It all depends upon the technology they implement. This is the thing that made iPad possible and has allowed improvements every year. Moored law is still a reality and will be for at least a couple of more years. They could have went to 2GB last year if they really wanted too.
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Sie oder mich, stimme ich mit Ihnen.

 

You know, I’d say me, because the design of the uniforms are incredibly classy… I just can’t get over the pants. If I can wear pants that aren’t, well… THIS

then sure.

 

In both a literal and figurative sense, Keiner weiss wo dem Andern der Schuh drückt. Not that there would be pinching in those pants, per say…

Originally Posted by Slurpy

There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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There's just a TINY chance that Apple will also be able to figure out payments. Oh wait, they did already… …and you’re already f*ed.

 

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