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Except its hardware that people pay for. Of course all those other things are baked in to the price but I doubt anyone seriously believes Apple products are too cheap. Now maybe I wasn't being clear with what you were saying. I'm fully expecting a 5.5" device to be more expensive than a 4.7" device. But I think it would be a mistake for Apple to reserve certain hardware just for the 5.5" model as I believe there are people that will pay for these features but would prefer a smaller screen. I know in my case if the 5.5" model has better hardware just because then I'll keep my 5s and Apple doesn't get a sale from me.

 

I do.

 

I think the iPad Mini and Mini Retina are dirt cheap.

 

If Apple's profits are bothering you maybe you should invest in some Apple stock?

 

I did.  I starting buying in Nov2012 at $590, then $550, $500, $450, $400.  I just sold most of my stock last week and made about $40k.  I'm still holding 200 shares and hope those will fund my future Apple purchases.  I will be getting about $400 in dividends next year and will sell a few shares once the 6S comes out.  I'm saving my $40k to buy the iCar when it comes out.

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32gb on the "base" would be sweet, but with iPhotos/iCloud + the huge shift to streaming music vs downloading, I can't ever see me needing 128gb on my phone.  I still have room on my 16gb 5S.

95%+ of my music is ripped from my CD collection. Without iTunes Match (which I don't use) iCloud is much less useful for me. I'll take that 128GB please.

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I think a lot of people forget that all devices have pros and cons. Mobile devices are all compromises of some sort or another, even laptops. My Mac Pro with 30" Cinema, Ricoh high volume color laser printer, along with my Avaya multiline business phone have only one compromise, they are not portable. People have differing needs, which is why there are so many choices in the mobile segment. Adding one more is just another possible selection for someone who is willing to accept a certain mix of compromises.

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This is for the 5.5 model only

 

I knew you would hop in with the the justification for 128GB as justification to support the 5.5" theory! LMAO!

 
I think there is value in a 5.5" iPhone. Unlike you though, I am not so sure that Apple will make that big leap this go around since no substantial rumors have floated in a while, someday your your dream will come.
 
I would like to see:
 
  • a sapphire screen cover
  • true stereo output from internal speakers (even if it only allowed a mixed of L & R
  • be able to handle environmental issues better (like moisture from a quick slip of the grip while on the "throne”)
  • a way to save network settings and then export/import them on same or different iPhone/iPad
  • folders inside folders - they could even call it iOS HFS+

 

Don't be too disappointed if the 5.5 doesn't make the holiday shipping season.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

survey. took a while but pretty accurate. about 100,000,000 peeps who bought Samdung S4, Samdung S5, Samdung Noty1, Samdung Noty2, Samdung Noty3.  All are 5 inches or larger.

 

So any source on that?

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Ok I'll bite. Why is 5.5" special? People that want a 4.7" screen don't need the additional storage? Apple didn't limit 128GB to the iPad Air so why would they do it with iPhone?

 

Because Apple wants you to buy the larger, more expensive product.

 

Have you not been following Apple for the past few decades?

 

I don't know for sure what will be announced of course come Sept, but if the 128GB RAM is only available on the 5.5" phone, then I will not be the least bit surprised, as that is exactly what I am expecting Apple to do.

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95%+ of my music is ripped from my CD collection. Without iTunes Match (which I don't use) iCloud is much less useful for me. I'll take that 128GB please.

 

Why don't you use it?

 

It's only $25 bucks a year. I use it and it works pretty good.

 

I no longer have to waste any space or waste money on extra flash memory needed to keep tons of songs on any of my devices. 

post #48 of 90
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Originally Posted by Tallest Skil View Post
 

 

So any source on that?

 

Samsung sold 38 million Note1 and Note2 POS phones as of 11 months ago

http://www.engadget.com/2013/09/09/samsung-reports-38-million-galaxy-notes-sold/

 

Shamdung fools 10 million idiots to buy POS Note3

http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-note-3-boasts-10-million-units-sold-20131210/

 

Samsung sold more than 40 million steamy pile of crap S4 POS

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-has-sold-more-than-40-million-units-of-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S4_id48650

 

Samdung sold 11 million POS S5

http://www.businessinsider.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-sales-2014-5

 

38+10+40+11 = 98,000,000

 

Now add LG's, Xiaomi, Sony 5+ inch phones and you get well over 100,000,000

 

I know what you will say.

 

"I don't believe it since those figures are not in the audited financials"

 

No other company releases unit figures in their public filings except Apple.  If that's your standard of proof than Apple has sold 100% of the smartphones on the planet since they are the only one who reports these on their SEC filings.  But Samsung PUBLICLY reporting unit sales in a press conference is as good proof you can get short of a public filling.  If those public statements are proven false Samsung investors can sue the living sheet out of the company.  And you bet they would since the stock is in the crapper right now.

 

Keep in mind what Apple does is very unusual.  Hardly any company reports unit sales each quarter in their SEC filings.

 

McDonalds does not report total burgers sold in their 10-Q

Coca Cola does not report total cans sold

Levi's does not report number of Jeans

ect, ect, ect.

 

But if you make a press release like Shamesung did its pretty solid.  Since if its proven to be materially wrong investors can sue the living snot out of the company.


Edited by sog35 - 8/21/14 at 11:09am
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I do.

 

I do also!

 

We were just talking about this yesterday in another thread.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

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See my other post for why this isn’t proof.

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See my other post for why this isn’t proof.

 

When did Samsung lie about shipments?

 

Show me when the CEO was proven to lie about unit shipments?

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

When did Samsung lie about shipments?

 

http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/04/11/samsung-lied-about-tablet-sales/

http://phandroid.com/2013/11/19/no-samsung-didnt-sell-800000-galaxy-gears-they-shipped-that-many-to-retailers/

 
Show me when the CEO was proven to lie about unit shipments? 


Yeah, don’t try to move the goalposts with me. I’m the one who painted the lines on the field; I can see where they belong.

 

Also, additional lies and theft.

 

http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile/samsung-cough-2-3-million-lying-u-s-government/

http://www.cultofmac.com/254695/for-samsung-stealing-cheating-and-lying-are-business-as-usual/

 

So no, no one intelligent, under any definition of the word, would trust anything Samsung says.

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post #53 of 90
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http://www.idownloadblog.com/2014/04/11/samsung-lied-about-tablet-sales/

http://phandroid.com/2013/11/19/no-samsung-didnt-sell-800000-galaxy-gears-they-shipped-that-many-to-retailers/


Yeah, don’t try to move the goalposts with me. I’m the one who painted the lines on the field; I can see where they belong.

 

 

I set the goalpost.

 

The goalpost was that the Samsung CEO made a public announcement of Note/Galaxy shipments. 

 

Those article you post prove nothing.

Show me an article where a high ranking SAMSUNG EMPLOYEE PUBLICLY gave false unit shipments.

You won't find any.  It was Strategic Analysis that spewed the false numbers PUBLICLY not Samsung.

 

And SamDUNG did ship 800,000 gear watches.  That isn't many at all.

post #54 of 90
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100,000,000 people say you are wrong

just because  you have small mitts and are allergic to using two hands does not mean others are not.

You need to get out of your bubble and realize that MANY OTHER people have a different opinion about large phones than you do.

So Tallest Ski are you FINALLY going to admit I was RIGHT about the 5.5?

If that was true Samsungs massive phones would be selling like hot cakes. They don't. Even Samsung has admitted to this.
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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

Show me an article where a high ranking SAMSUNG EMPLOYEE PUBLICLY gave false unit shipments.

 

I’ve already replied to this post; no need to repeat myself.

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I’ve already replied to this post; no need to repeat myself.

 

You are wrong: it was Strategic Analysis that said Samsung sold 2 million Galaxy Tabs not SAMSUNG.

 

YOU ARE WRONG.

 

Show me a direct quote of a Samsung employee lying about Galaxy Tab shipments

 

Straight from the article you linked:

 

"For starters, Galaxy Tab data came via research firm Strategy Analytics and Samsung is a client of theirs."

 

It was SA that announced it not Samsung.

 

"Case in point: Strategy Analytics in January 2011 claimed two million shipments of Galaxy Tabs in 2010, based on a Samsung executive’s vague comment made to investors. The Wall Street Journal soon after discovered that the figure represented shipments of initial inventory sell-in designed to fill the channel, not actual end-user sales."

 

Again it was SA who screwed up.  Samsung never came out and said they SOLD 2 million tabs.


Edited by sog35 - 8/21/14 at 12:35pm
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If that was true Samsungs massive phones would be selling like hot cakes. They don't. Even Samsung has admitted to this.

 

So why is Apple making a 4.7 inch phone?  When many people can't even use the 5S with one hand?

So why is Apple making a 5.5 inch phone?

 

Stop living in the 2010's.

Many people want big phones.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

YOU ARE WRONG.

 

Yep, court cases sure are wrong¡

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Yep, court cases sure are wrong¡

 

heard of OJ?

 

Since when was Samsung found guilty in court for lying about unit sales?  never happened.

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Originally Posted by sog35 View Post

heard of OJ?

 

Court cases in which Samsung officials have to explicitly state the truth, which contradicts what the company said before the case sure are wrong¡ You’re intelligent enough to know exactly what I meant the first time. Quit grasping at straws and accept that your reasoning is based on utter nonsense and lies.

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post #61 of 90
With cloud and streaming services I really have no need for anything more then 32GB. I used to store all of my music locally but now with Spotify what's the point. Photos taken with my camera are automatically uploaded and then deleted on my phone, with OneDrive so integrated into the OS I can't tell the difference when accessing those photos for viewing later. Videos, I don't really use my phone, to small, I have to many tablets that do that perfectly too try and sit in front of a small screen and enjoy a movie. I still have Netflix and Zattoo installed just in case but outside of testing I haven't used them as of yet. My iPad though, more is always better, I would actually like to see a 256GB version as I'm constantly deleting things with 128GB (music creation  apps), would still prefer a mini SD card slot.
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post #62 of 90
No more 16GB model, for the amount of music and apps and videos we have on our phones compared to 2007 there isn't a reason to still have that storage size. Start at 32GB, $50 more 64GB and an additional $50 gets you 128GB. Fire phone starts at 32GB for the same price as 16GB iPhone it's time apple switched things up. I'm tired of not being able to quickly take a picture because my iPhone can't possibly take another photo.
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Well, if that was true, then maybe. iPad Air's 5MP camera vs. 5s 8MP camera begs to differ though. One of the reasons I think families recording event stills with their iPads is so stupid, in addition to being rude to those behind.

Edited: Larger image files being imported to the device from the huge originals on the computer: how are the imported file sizes arrived at when you simply sync a photo album? Offhand I'd expect the larger iPad screen would mean a larger synced image file than a sync optimized for a 5s screen....

 

So nothing to do with the device's own camera: just the more large-image-file compatible screen.


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Ok I'll bite. Why is 5.5" special? People that want a 4.7" screen don't need the additional storage? Apple didn't limit 128GB to the iPad Air so why would they do it with iPhone?
Apple did limit it on IPad 4 however, but not at original release.

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That would be nice for flagship models. Apple has made their laptops more affordable, I don't see why they can't bump storage without raising prices. I mean isn't technology supposed to get cheaper over time? So would this really even have much impact on Apple's margins?
No, it's a $10 device difference.
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Why?  Because they can.  Because Apple always prefers people to buy the flagship.

iPhone6 4.7 - 16/32/64
iPhone6 5.5 - 32/64/128

This way Apple can charge $299 on contract for the 5.5
Alot of people will justify this extra $100 because they are getting a bigger screen + 16GB memory + sapphire + faster chip

I think its time that smartphones go up in prices.
We've been stuck at $199 for flagships for over 7 years.  Price should go up just because of inflation.

Of course there are people who don't want to pay more than $199 - so they can grab the 4.7
Tech does not go up in price, food and materials do.
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Yes the prices of a certain technology goes down.  But with new technology comes higher prices.  Just look at the TV market.

UHD TV's cost $20k. 

The top of the line phones should cost more than $199 on contract.  We've been stuck on that price for 7 years.
$299 for a iPhone6XL sounds right.
UHD TV cost 1/9 that price as well.
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Well, if that was true, then maybe. iPad Air's 5MP camera vs. 5s 8MP camera begs to differ though. One of the reasons I think families recording event stills with their iPads is so stupid, in addition to being rude to those behind.
Think he means the actual files of apps on larger screen.
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Why don't you use it?

 

It's only $25 bucks a year. I use it and it works pretty good.

 

I no longer have to waste any space or waste money on extra flash memory needed to keep tons of songs on any of my devices. 

Yep, totally agree, though I prefer Spotify, I no longer see the point in actually purchasing music anymore. The point still stands though, why waste your local phones storage. I don't know if US mobile providers let you use music streaming services for free but they do here in Switzerland, doesn't really matter though as I have an unlimited data account and will never, ever give it up, even if they started charging me twice as much.

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Larger image files being imported to the device from the huge originals on the computer:  mine start at 32MB each (RAW, uncompressed and straight out of a Nikon D800) worthwhile for editing and such on my full size iPad but not worth anything on my 5s. My recent vacation I came back with over eleven hundred of them....

 

So nothing to do with the device's own camera: just the more large=image=file compatible screen.

That's more of a workflow thing, but I get your point. I do my RAW processing on a laptop, and I've shot swim team action "portraits" and come home with 6,000 RAW files. Thing is, my images are smaller than yours (1D Mark iii vs. Nikon D800), and I still could not easily do that work on an iPad, so I think it's more workflow than image size.

 

You're correct though that processing 1100 RAWs on a phone would be ridiculous, because of the screen size, and works fine on an iPad.

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I hope this means that the sizes are going to be 32/64/128gb as standard. 16gb is not really enough any more.


That's not going to Apple.

 

Storage = Apple's profit margin.

 

They would drop the 32 from existence, and slide 64 & 128 down in price point, before they would get rid of 16 GB model. Even today, at least half if not a larger majority of users have no need for anything over 16 GB.

 

That still leaves millions of people who want/need more than 16. But no reason to axe 16.

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95%+ of my music is ripped from my CD collection. Without iTunes Match (which I don't use) iCloud is much less useful for me. I'll take that 128GB please.

 

Why don't you use it?

 

It's only $25 bucks a year. I use it and it works pretty good.

 

I no longer have to waste any space or waste money on extra flash memory needed to keep tons of songs on any of my devices. 

I think the issue for some people, and it is likely the same bunch who complain about the battery life, is that if you are out and about away from wifi, you can go over your data limit pretty quickly streaming music all day. I don't use iTunes Match or even iCloud for that matter. I have a 64GB with lots of music. I do a lot of flying so it is one less thing to think about because the music is always there on the device.


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post #69 of 90

More proof a 3TB version is coming - sog35.

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At this point, I shall be quite happy when it’s announced and we can relive some of this tension here.

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I do.

I think the iPad Mini and Mini Retina are dirt cheap.

If Apple's profits are bothering you maybe you should invest in some Apple stock?

I did.  I starting buying in Nov2012 at $590, then $550, $500, $450, $400.  I just sold most of my stock last week and made about $40k.  I'm still holding 200 shares and hope those will fund my future Apple purchases.  I will be getting about $400 in dividends next year and will sell a few shares once the 6S comes out.  I'm saving my $40k to buy the iCar when it comes out.
I am invested in Apple stock. I don't think any of their products are "dirt cheap". On what basis do you think the iPad mini is too cheap?
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Because Apple wants you to buy the larger, more expensive product.

Have you not been following Apple for the past few decades?

I don't know for sure what will be announced of course come Sept, but if the 128GB RAM is only available on the 5.5" phone, then I will not be the least bit surprised, as that is exactly what I am expecting Apple to do.
Ok so what then is the iPad mini available with 128GB storage option since the iPad Air is more expensive?

And in my case it wouldn't work because I don't want a phablet. So instead of getting a sale from me for a 4.7" device Apple would get no sale at all.
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Which one?

The ones with the dial up modem of course lol.gif
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At this point, I shall be quite happy when it’s announced and we can relive some of this tension here.

I guess so, but I posit that we would be reliving a different kind of tension after the announcement.
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Court cases in which Samsung officials have to explicitly state the truth, which contradicts what the company said before the case sure are wrong¡ You’re intelligent enough to know exactly what I meant the first time. Quit grasping at straws and accept that your reasoning is based on utter nonsense and lies.

 

Strategic Analytics said Samsung sold 2 million tablets.

Samsung never said that.

 

Again show me proof that someone at SAMSUNG said they sold 2 million tablets....

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I really, really hope this is true, I'd love to have entire music library without having to mess with any of the cloud services.

 

 

 

 

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Why don't you use it?

 

It's only $25 bucks a year. I use it and it works pretty good.

 

I no longer have to waste any space or waste money on extra flash memory needed to keep tons of songs on any of my devices. 

 

I had it (iTunes Match) the first year and it was a disaster.  None of smart playlists would work.  Playcounts and last played dates didn't update.  Playcounts and last played dates were changed in my library.  For months deleted songs would randomly reappear.  I think I had it on for two days before I turned it off and unsubscribed.  If it's any better now, I'll never know.  I'd much rather "waste" my money on more storage and have everything work properly rather than shell out more money for another subscription that may or may not work.

 

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Yep, totally agree, though I prefer Spotify, I no longer see the point in actually purchasing music anymore. The point still stands though, why waste your local phones storage. I don't know if US mobile providers let you use music streaming services for free but they do here in Switzerland, doesn't really matter though as I have an unlimited data account and will never, ever give it up, even if they started charging me twice as much.

 

Why waste battery and bandwidth on streaming music?  I listen to music and podcasts 8+ hours/day.  There's no way my battery would last long enough to stream that much content.  The single most battery draining activity on an iPhone is streaming cellular data.  The least battery draining activity is local music playback.  I'd much rather use my local storage and have my battery last all day than save my storage for (what?) and have a dead battery in 4 hours.

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I would like to see:
 
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  • true stereo output from internal speakers (even if it only allowed a mixed of L & R
  •  

 

Why? Seriously. What benefit will you realize? What advantage will there be to justify the increased size and cost of the phone or reduced size and quality of the speakers?

 

The advantage of stereo over mono is spacial cues. You don't get usable spacial cues with speakers less than an inch apart. Holding it close doesn't matter. Your head is too big for side-by-side speakers to do any good.

 

Tiny little telephone speakers sound like crap. How is CrapX2 better than CrapX1?

 

If you're in a situation that makes external speakers impractical, headphones are the only way you're gonna hear stereo.

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Why don't you use it?

 

It's only $25 bucks a year. I use it and it works pretty good.

 

I no longer have to waste any space or waste money on extra flash memory needed to keep tons of songs on any of my devices. 

Yep, totally agree, though I prefer Spotify, I no longer see the point in actually purchasing music anymore. The point still stands though, why waste your local phones storage. I don't know if US mobile providers let you use music streaming services for free but they do here in Switzerland, doesn't really matter though as I have an unlimited data account and will never, ever give it up, even if they started charging me twice as much.

 

Cloud-based storage is all but useless for many.

 

In my case I usually don't have access to online content. The corporate wifi at work has blocked so many ports I can't even get EMAIL, much less streamed music and video. I couldn't even activate a replacement iPhone! I can't imagine my employer is unique in this regard, so presumably others would face the same issue.

 

If one uses cellular data to stream, the data costs will very quickly add up to a helluvalot more than even the egregious $100 premium Apple charges for measly dribbles of storage. Imagine driving around all day streaming the way you would listen to the radio.

 

Then there's the fact that there's no online access in subway tunnels at all, so one of the longest and most common situations for listening/watching is limited to local storage.

 

It's not hard to imagine that there are a good number of users for whom ample local storage is a key feature.


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No more 16GB model, for the amount of music and apps and videos we have on our phones compared to 2007 there isn't a reason to still have that storage size. Start at 32GB, $50 more 64GB and an additional $50 gets you 128GB. Fire phone starts at 32GB for the same price as 16GB iPhone it's time apple switched things up. I'm tired of not being able to quickly take a picture because my iPhone can't possibly take another photo.

 

First off don't compare an iPhone to the POS Fire Phone.  Amazon does not make profits so they can sell those POS phones for low prices.  Its like saying Kia sells a 6 cylinder sedan for $20k so BMW should also.  NO.

 

Second of all there are many people who are perfectly fine with 16GB phones.  

 

I don't know how many times I need to explain this.  But if Apple is going to charge $50 between memory upgrades then the starting price of the 16GB phone will go up.  PERIOD.  That's the only way Apple can make up for the lost revenue.  The way it works is the 16GB phones have the lowest margin.  The 64GB phones have the highest margin.  Those who buy the 32/64GB phones are actually subsidizing the 16GB buyers.  You know full well that 16GB of RAM does not cost close to $100.  But again if Apple cuts the upgrades to $50 they would need to increase the price of the 16GB phone to $299 on contract.  $349 for 32 GB, $399 for 64GB, $449 for 128.  But Apple wont do that because $199 is the price people are use to.

 

Apple sells 150,000,000 phones a year.  And you want them to sacrifice $100 per phone?  That's over $15B in profit.  That's about 40% Apple's total profits.  You  expect Apple to take a $15B hit even thought they can barely keep up with demand in the first 3 months of release?  Are you serious!

 

Don't be cheap and buy a 32 or 64GB phone next time.  Wait a few months after release and you can get iPhones for $100 off.  Just don't expect Apple to sacrifice $15B of profits because you want your phone right away and at a discount.


Edited by sog35 - 8/21/14 at 6:58pm
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Originally Posted by Rogifan View Post


I am invested in Apple stock. I don't think any of their products are "dirt cheap". On what basis do you think the iPad mini is too cheap?

 

The iPadMini Retina for $399 is a ridiculous bargain when it came out.

 

A7 blows away any Android tablet

Incredible metal construction

Secure and super smooth OS

Unbeatable ecosystem

Amazing customer service

Great resale value

 

You can't even get an equally good Android/Windows tablet for 50% more.

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