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Apple on Thursday provided members of its public beta program the second test build of OS X Yosemite, while a new build of iTunes 12 for Yosemite is also available.




OS X Yosemite Beta 2 is now available to download from the Mac App Store for members of the OS X Beta Program. The public release comes a few days after OS X Yosemite Developer Preview 6 was issued to registered members of Apple's development community.

The first public beta of Yosemite arrived in late July, marking the first time members of the general public could officially test Apples next-generation Mac operating system. OS X Yosemite is scheduled to arrive this fall, and brings new connectivity options between Macs and mobile devices running the upcoming iOS 8 platform.

The release notes of OS X Yosemite Beta 2 do not offer any indications of what changes may be included. The listing on the Mac App Store simply states that the update "is recommended for all users."

iTunes 12, meanwhile, is identified as build 97, comes with a number of changes from the currently available media suite, most notably a streamlined design that Apple says makes browsing content libraries "easier and more enjoyable." iTunes 12 also features support for the "Family Sharing" function, allowing iTunes, iBooks and App Store purchases to be shared with up to six people in your family without sharing accounts.




Apple has also improved playlists in iTunes 12, allowing suers to view their full library and playlists side by side. And a redesigned "Get Info" window features a clean look that provides users with the most useful information about their media.

The first beta of iTunes 12 arrived in July, echoing the flatter and more translucent cues of Apple's redesign of OS X with Yosemite.
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Well, that addresses all the concern trolling from yesterday.
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I don’t want to see this. I don’t want to see my music doubled. Why would anyone, anywhere, want to see this?

 

Automatic downloads now applies to movies and TV shows, which is nice.

 

STILL can’t resize my artwork. When was it they removed that ability for no reason whatsoever? Was it iTunes 9?

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I wish we could get back full view of album art and movie posters.

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The new get info window maybe helpful for people that don't really use it but those that used it a lot, it has become unusable. So who will this actually benefit?!?
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Originally Posted by pichael View Post
The new get info window maybe helpful for people that don't really use it but those that used it a lot, it has become unusable.

 

It’s just reorganized. I don’t think they’ve removed anything.

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<< I don't want to see this. I don't want to see my music doubled.>>

What phenomenon are you referring to with this comment?
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Originally Posted by scottyo View Post
What phenomenon are you referring to with this comment?

 

In Album view, there’s a new “Recently Added” category where, surprisingly enough, recently added music falls. 

 

Except I don’t give a flying frick about this, don’t want to see it at all, and there’s no option to remove it. My music is my music; when it was that I added it I couldn’t care less.

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In Album view, there’s a new “Recently Added” category where, surprisingly enough, recently added music falls. 

 

Except I don’t give a flying frick about this, don’t want to see it at all, and there’s no option to remove it. My music is my music; when it was that I added it I couldn’t care less.

 

Fucking hell we have a first world problem here.

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Originally Posted by PaulMJohnson View Post

Fucking hell we have a first world problem here.

 

When you want to post something meaningful to the discussion, using your computer powered by electricity and connected to the Internet, feel free. How is this post anything but worthless? I’d call you blindingly ignorant, but you know better, so it’s a different word that starts with I which describes you…

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Apple has also improved playlists in iTunes 12, allowing suers to view their full library and playlists side by side.

 

Oh noooo... the MPAA will come after us :(

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Fucking hell we have a first world problem here.

I'd say every complaint on this site is a first world problem.

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I said I believed that there would be another public beta that it may come in a couple days after they are sure the 6th developer beta has no major pitfalls. I guess that means I proved it days ago simply because it happen to come true.

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Menu fonts still look not so nice on my non retina MBP. I was hoping that got fixed as I read somewhere it was for the DP. And some new display glitches. Otherwise no issues in the first five minutes 1wink.gif
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I'd say every complaint on this site is a first world problem.

 

Funny how that is. People here having a cow over some software feature being present or not, obsessing, getting all worked up while some poor bastard in Gaza is wondering where his next meal is coming from.

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Funny how that is. People here having a cow over some software feature being present or not, obsessing, getting all worked up while some poor bastard in Gaza is wondering where his next meal is coming from.

Or even the zoo animals in Gaza getting hit and/or not being fed food or water. It's all fun and games until someone loses and aye-aye.*



*Yes, @GTR, I've been holding onto that one.
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In DP6, I keep seeing graphical glitches that lead me to believe Dark Mode IS coming system-wide to native applications’ UI. And that makes me really happy.

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In DP6, I keep seeing graphical glitches that lead me to believe Dark Mode IS coming system-wide to native applications’ UI. And that makes me really happy.

That would be nice but it seems a little late in the game to start implementing that now, especially after they changed the wording to specifically mention the Menu Bar and Dock. My guess is that it's not going to happen with Yosemite.

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Originally Posted by SolipsismX View Post
My guess is that it's not going to happen with Yosemite.

 

Insane! Then why are the assets even in there? What’s the point of trying if you’re not going to do it right? That doesn’t sound like Apple.

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I'd say every complaint on this site is a first world problem.

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Oh that's right, they didn't create the new iTunes for you!  Recently Added is no big deal for you but I bet it is quite useful for other people.  What is the big deal?  

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Originally Posted by petieg View Post
Oh that's right, they didn't create the new iTunes for you!  Recently Added is no big deal for you but I bet it is quite useful for other people.  What is the big deal?  


Yeah, that’s not a valid response.

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Insane! Then why are the assets even in there? What’s the point of trying if you’re not going to do it right? That doesn’t sound like Apple.

1) Years ago they announced Resolution Independence as a major new feature for some version of Mac OS X before silently dropping it from their website months later. I'm sure there have been other incomplete features they had to adjust for whatever reason.

2) if they were going to include it then why take the time to alter the System Preferences title a few betas back? I agree that Apple doing a "sike!" sounds un-Apple but so does changing the setting just to rename it again when they complete it in the next month. I hope you're right but I don't think it's likely.

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Talk about the pot callng the kettle black. Leveraging filesystem attributes as exposed functionality you don't want to see is something Apple most certainly received requests to actually see.

More importantly, It's Beta Software. Send them feedback to discuss the value or lack of value such exposed features offer.
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Originally Posted by mdriftmeyer View Post
Leveraging filesystem attributes as exposed functionality you don’t want to see is something Apple most certainly received requests to actually see.

 

Eh? You could always see your recently added. Always.

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No, they have reordered it as well as remove sections which aren't normal associated with the file type. E.g. You don't have the option for Album Name when the media kind is a TV Show. Makes sense as why would you need an Album Name on a TV Show. This is useful however when you import your own copies of TV shows and want to add the TV Show name on the Album Name to make it easier when looking through your recently added list etc. It's not like they've killed iTunes or anything but I just liked having the get info box with all the options as it made multiple data entry much easier then doing it in a group in stead of having to do it one by one in the list view. I would show you but I rolled back to 11 already.

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It’s just reorganized. I don’t think they’ve removed anything.

No, they have reordered it as well as remove sections which aren't normal associated with the file type. E.g. You don't have the option for Album Name when the media kind is a TV Show. Makes sense as why would you need an Album Name on a TV Show. This is useful however when you import your own copies of TV shows and want to add the TV Show name on the Album Name to make it easier when looking through your recently added list etc. It's not like they've killed iTunes or anything but I just liked having the get info box with all the options as it made multiple data entry much easier then doing it in a group in stead of having to do it one by one in the list view. I would show you but I rolled back to 11 already.

 

 
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I'd say every complaint on this site is a first world problem.

Ha, ha!  Very true.

 

This one seems worse than most.

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STILL can’t resize my artwork. When was it they removed that ability for no reason whatsoever? Was it iTunes 9?

iTunes 11 removed the ability to resize your artwork.  iTunes 10 had the ability to adjust the artwork size.  In iTunes 11 and 12, you can only adjust the artwork size in the list view, after turning on the option to show art.  There is a slider to adjust the size in the view option window, but it is very limited.  iTunes 12 is awful since it removed the option to always show the sidebar.  Now you have to do multiple clicks and different views to see it appear and then disappear with other views.

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In DP6, I keep seeing graphical glitches that lead me to believe Dark Mode IS coming system-wide to native applications’ UI. And that makes me really happy.

Try not to look forward to the dark side.

There is much hate, anger, and suffering there.

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Yeah, that’s not a valid response.


Nothing you say is a valid response. I hope they keep recently added. 

Mostly because I know you don't like it. 

Apple doesn't design everything with your opinions in mind. 

If they did, they would be out of business already. 

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iTunes 11 removed the ability to resize your artwork.  iTunes 10 had the ability to adjust the artwork size.  In iTunes 11 and 12, you can only adjust the artwork size in the list view, after turning on the option to show art.  There is a slider to adjust the size in the view option window, but it is very limited.  iTunes 12 is awful since it removed the option to always show the sidebar.  Now you have to do multiple clicks and different views to see it appear and then disappear with other views.

My complaint with the first beta of iTunes 12 is that no playlists would appear with Home Sharing networks. I had to reinstall ITunes 11.x. I wonder if that feature will be re-added.
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Originally Posted by pichael View Post
This is useful however when you import your own copies of TV shows and want to add the TV Show name on the Album Name to make it easier when looking through your recently added list etc.

 

Hmm… I don’t think I understand. Since you can search through metadata anyway, wouldn’t it just be easier to keep everything it its regular place?

 
…in stead of having to do it one by one in the list view.

 

You can still group edit just fine. I’m confused.

 

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Nothing you say is a valid response.

 

Oh, okay. That’s good to know; thanks for clarifying.

 
I hope they keep recently added. Mostly because I know you don't like it. 

 

Enjoy having hate in your life.

 

Apple doesn't design everything with your useless, basement dweller opinions in mind. 

 

lol.

 
If they did, they would be out of business already.  

 

So the fact that the vast majority of what they do aligns with my opinions… doesn’t factor into your plan, then.

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Its about damn time Apple released another public beta of Yosemite.

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Originally Posted by macxpress View Post
Its about damn time Apple released another public beta of Yosemite.


At least we now know the schedule. Every three DPs we get a new PB.

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At least we now know the schedule. Every three DPs we get a new PB.

 

Hopefully thats true. Would probably be nice to see one more PB before the GM is created. Like I've been saying, the more people that can get their hands on it who are helpful the better as the more situations Yosemite gets put in that developers don't necessarily do. 

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At least we now know the schedule. Every three DPs we get a new PB.
That's the average, but I would go with a couple days after ever other beta since I believe these public betas are based on dev beta 4 and 6.

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In Album view, there’s a new “Recently Added” category where, surprisingly enough, recently added music falls. 

 

Except I don’t give a flying frick about this, don’t want to see it at all, and there’s no option to remove it. My music is my music; when it was that I added it I couldn’t care less.

 

Stop acting like a whiny, entitled, sanctimonious child. I can imagine a shitload of people would care about easily finding music they recently added, myself included. The fact that you're having such a fit that YOU don't want to see it for some odd, irrational reason, and showing outrage at why it exists (because you know, Apple's entire existence is meant to please you and only you) is pathetic. That little category will not negatively affect anyone who does not use it, but will positively affect everyone else in a useful fashion. Try to be reasonable once in a while by looking past your own nose. 

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Originally Posted by Slurpy View Post
Stop acting like a whiny, entitled, sanctimonious child.

 

Like I said, they really need to get these new devices out to relieve some of the tension here. People feel entitled to read their own emotions into others’ posts for absolutely no reason. 😛

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Hmm… I don’t think I understand. Since you can search through metadata anyway, wouldn’t it just be easier to keep everything it its regular place?

 

 

I do keep it in the correct places as well as adding the information into the Album Name section as it makes it easier to find in a list of mixed Media Kinds. It's just what I'm used to so I prefer having the option available to me. There are a few sections which helps keep them grouped in the list view as well, it's not just the one section that I miss. I use the normal TV Shows section to view the programs but when sorting I like to use the list view as it's much more responsive.

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