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Oh my God you need to be more careful with your electronics i'm sorry but that is just a careless thing to do, and you drop your phone into a picture of what beer wow luckily I don't drink so I don't have to worry about the beer. I'm sorry but for a $700 piece of hardware people should be more careful. Whether it's waterproof or not, and seriously old tale of dropping your phone in the toilet well I don't have to worry about that either because I don't use my phone in the bathroom. That sounds like something only drunk/clumsy people would do.
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No need to be a prick, accidents happen to everyone.

 

 

No, certain people are more accident prone than others.

 

It's like with car insurance. Some people have never gotten into any accidents, while other drivers are more accident prone, and they should rightfully pay more for their insurance.

 

So if people wish to go around dropping their phones everywhere, then that is their problem, and they should obviously be responsible for their actions.

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No, accidents happen to everyone.

 

Some people being more prone than others is also true, but doesn't detract from accidents happening to everyone.

 

Never had an accident?  Ever?  Liar.

 

 

The iPhone being waterproof will be of benefit to pretty much everyone, as a reassurance if nothing else, save a few people in the desert or in space.

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I wonder if Samsung's CEO has done the ice bucket challenge. Tim Cook did, come on Boo-Keun Yoon, post your video.

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Never had an accident?  Ever?  Liar.

 

I never said that I never had an accident. Don't put words into other people's mouths.

 

A few years ago I spilled a huge cup of coke all over my Macbook, basically killing the machine. I managed to fix it eventually, after I disassembled the entire machine and gave it an alcohol bath and then dried it out, but it was purely my own fault for being careless.

 

I have never had any phone or iPad accidents yet, and I keep all of my devices naked.

 

Accidents can and will happen, but in virtually all cases it's the fault and the responsibility of the user.

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These ads obviously aren't working...I don't know why they continue these stupid type of ads. If its not working by now, its never going to. If you have to spend all of your advertising dollars defending your product, then you don't have a very good product to advertise. 

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post #47 of 163
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I never said that I never had an accident. Don't put words into other people's mouths.

 

A few years ago I spilled a huge cup of coke all over my Macbook, basically killing the machine. I managed to fix it eventually, after I disassembled the entire machine and gave it an alcohol bath and then dried it out, but it was purely my own fault for being careless.

 

I have never had any phone or iPad accidents yet, and I keep all of my devices naked.

 

Accidents can and will happen, but in virtually all cases it's the fault and the responsibility of the user.

You said no when I said that accidents happen to everyone, thereby suggesting that you believe that some people are impervious to accidents.

 

I'm not sure what evidence you have that in "virtually all cases it's the fault and responsibility of the user" but even if that's true, why would you be against a design that removes that risk?

 

Should Apple not put a tough screen on the iPhone, because people who scratch the screen only have themselves to blame?

 

Should they stop using tough materials like metal and glass because weak plastic is fine and any breakages are the fault of the user?

 

It's a sensible preventative measure that will benefit everyone.  Your tough man stance is a bit silly, when a similar proposition could have saved your Macbook.

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Why don't you just Google it?

 

http://www.samsungtelecom.com/life-at-samsung/corporate-responsibility.asp

I did and if what's listed is all they do, I'm not impressed at all.

 

 

I wasn't trying to argue the merits of Samsung charitable donations only pointing out that 'sog' was simply making more unsubstantiated claims to bolster his argument against them. Just another sensationalized knee jerk reaction with no research.

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I was thinking that it was pretty sly. But after reading you guys comments I got to say it
is a bit tasteless. Shows how low Samsung is willing to sink in order to one up Apple.

For the best-shipping smartphone brand, Samsung's marketing is awfully fixated on the number two brand. That is what I find unusual. You don't see Coke making fun of Pepsi.

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It's a sensible preventative measure that will benefit everyone.  

 

I trust that Apple has certainly looked into waterproofing, and for whatever reason they have decided not to do it as of yet. Do you believe that they have not considered it or thought about it? Apple obviously takes everything into consideration when deciding what features to add or not to add.

 

As for the other things you mentioned, I have nothing against Apple coming out with a sapphire screen, if those rumors are true. Of course, that model might cost more than other models, and then the usual suspects will begin whining about price, but that's a different story.

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Exploiting a good cause is pretty lame, tbh...
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I trust that Apple has certainly looked into waterproofing, and for whatever reason they have decided not to do it as of yet. Do you believe that they have not considered it or thought about it? Apple obviously takes everything into consideration when deciding what features to add or not to add.

 

I'm sure they do.  And you know one thing they take into consideration?  What people want.  I want my iPhone to be waterproof.  Other people do too.  From what you're saying now, it seem you're not against the idea, though it's not a priority for you.  That's fine, you can have your priorities, but let other people have theirs without the superior attitude pls.

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I think it's a clever spot and a worthy charity. Nothing wrong with a little good natured competition. Hopefully Apple can think of a clever way to respond.

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Apple doesn't respond to thieves.

Oh?

 

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No, certain people are more accident prone than others.

 

It's like with car insurance. Some people have never gotten into any accidents, while other drivers are more accident prone, and they should rightfully pay more for their insurance.

 

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Accidents are accidents; that's why they're called....accidents. People do pay more for car insurance after having a few accidents, which makes one a higher risk. But an accident can happen at any time for any reason, and it's by no fault of the victim that they are killed or handicapped due to a drunk driver. That situation doesn't make the victim any more prone to accidents than the next guy, it's simply makes him in the wrong place at the wrong time. You are very black & white, my friend, when the real world is, very much, many shades of gray. Just because it fits you doesn't mean it fits everyone else.

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post #56 of 163
Okaaay,

How is this any better or any worse than (PRODUCT)Red?

https://www.apple.com/uk/product-red/

Both Apple and Samsung have jumped on the charity bandwagon. Apple may have the talent to make their charity tie-ins more tasteful than Samsung, but let's not fool ourselves here: both are playing the same game. Both are pushing their products for profit under the guise of altruism.

No matter how tasteless this ad seems, I think, in the end you have to ask: Is the end result more positive for the charity concerned than not doing it? A good case can be made that it is more positive.
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post #57 of 163

Funny! But ridiculously cheesy of Samsung to take a fun charity gathering idea and making it money making promo for their product! I think ALSA.ORG should contact Samsung to pull the ad off.

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You talk out of both sides of your mouth. Accidents are accidents; that's why they're called....accidents. People do pay more for car insurance after having a few accidents, which makes one a higher risk. But an accident can happen at any time for any reason, and it's by no fault of the victim that they are killed or handicapped due to a drunk driver. That situation doesn't make the victim any more prone to accidents than the next guy, it's simply makes him in the wrong place at the wrong time. You are very black & white, my friend, when the real world is, very much, many shades of gray. Just because it fits you doesn't mean it fits everyone else.

 

Of course if a driver is hit by another driver and it is no fault of their own, then that is an unpreventable accident, but I'm talking about people who seem to break their iPhones more often than others, and I'm also saying that in virtually every case, it is their own fault.

 

If a person is a drunk or if they're very careless or if they're just extremely unlucky, then these people should get insurance for their phones. I don't give a crap about careless people who break their phones. People should take responsibility for their own actions and decisions.

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Last winter I dropped my iPhone 5 in ice-cold water while wade-fishing a river. The phone stayed submerged under water until I was able to get back up on my feet and pull it out by the lanyard. The total time it was submerged was about 10 seconds.

Once I got out, I turned the phone off until I got home. Today, I'm using that same iPhone with absolutely no problems whatsoever. I did not have to take it for repair or anything. I might've been lucky, but I would do that ice-bucket challenge on my iPhone any day and not worry.

A friend of mine left his 3G out in the garden. Rained all night. Next morning he put it in the oven, door ajar, temp set at the lowest, someone like 70°C and took it out 2 hours later. Left it for the day, charged it in the evening, booted up, used it till the next model came out. I think his son is still playing games on the thing.

Someone should dare Samsung do that.
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 Is the end result more positive for the charity concerned than not doing it? A good case can be made that it is more positive.

 

Oh, come off it.  There's a huge difference between a) creating a product line explicitly identified with a charity, and b) trivializing a charity for the sake of a bad joke.

 

The message of the former is unmistakable, while the message of the latter is ambiguous at best.

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When was the last time Samsung donated to charity?

This is really low class.  If they want to donate to a good cause do it.  Dont use it as a vehicle to bash competitors. 

Shows how little Samsung understands PR

1) Samsung donates Apple's products to their engineering department all the time¡

2) This isn't about charity. It's about showing off the water resistance capabilities of that device.

3) I like the idea of the ad but I felt it fell flat. I think it needed a lot more water and for a lot longer to be effective.
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Wait, so up until this point, the IBC has been about nothing but donations, with no interest whatsoever in self promotion, getting eyeballs on your videos, or pushing other causes? Could have fooled me.

 

I see that their publishing note covers the donation: "We are calling out all of our followers for the ALS Ice Bucket Challenge. Our Galaxy S5 just did it for the Motor Neurone Disease Association. Donate here www.mndassociation.org"

 

I have not purchased any Samsung products in the last 5 or 6 years. I see no problem with this youtube video though (you can call it an "ad" if you like, but it's just a wannabe viral video like all the other IBC videos).

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I think it's a clever spot and a worthy charity. Nothing wrong with a little good natured competition. Hopefully Apple can think of a clever way to respond.

 

Well the point of the Ice Bucket Challenge is that if you're challenged you either dunk or donate. Apple could respond by saying "Instead of marketing gimmicks, we'll just donate $10 million to ALS. See you on September 9th, Samsung."

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I'm sure they do.  And you know one thing they take into consideration?  What people want.  I want my iPhone to be waterproof.  Other people do too.  From what you're saying now, it seem you're not against the idea, though it's not a priority for you.  That's fine, you can have your priorities, but let other people have theirs without the superior attitude pls.

 

I also know one other thing that Apple also doesn't take into consideration, what people want. Apple is famous, especially under Steve Jobs of course, for doing what they think is best, and that formula has indeed been very successful for Apple.

 

You are correct, I am not against the idea, I just don't see it as being on top of the priority list at the moment.

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Could anyone else not understand a single thing that phone said? Mac OS 7 spoke better.
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Well the point of the Ice Bucket Challenge is that if you're challenged you either dunk or donate. Apple could respond by saying "Instead of marketing gimmicks, we'll just donate $10 million to ALS. See you on September 9th, Samsung."

 

Samsung's followup ad should be declaring that 500 million iPhones sold aren't as waterproof as the S5, and that they'll donate $100 to ALS for each one.

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Great idea....or maybe something along the lines of donating $1 for every new iPhone 6 they sell in the month of (whatever month they come out)! A lot of people see the Ice bucket Challenge as just a gimmick, but I lost my father to ALS so this hits close to home for me. I have not done the ice bucket myself, but instead donated $1,500 to ALS research...taking the plunge with the ice water is great to raise awareness, but at the end of the day money is needed to advance the research that will lead to a cure for this terrible disease. I would be thrilled if Apple stepped up and did something big, like what you suggested.
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I was probably the first person to drop an iPhone in the toilet...before they offered AppleCare... But early enough that Amex paid for a new one.

Pulled the phone out and it was still on. Tried to turn it off but couldn't swipe the wet screen. Phone died in my hand and I may have wept a little.

Dropped another one in a pitcher of beer. Dead immediately.

Waterproof would be a nice feature.

Given your history I'd suggest not waiting and trying out a waterproof case. I used an Otterbox Armor on a recent 11 day mountain backpack. No service of course so the phone was largely just stored, but the Armor has some good waterproof specs IIRC and is a far easier case to get the device in and out of than their Defender cases with two easily manipulated metal latches clamping it shut. The downside for everyday use is you lose Touch ID.

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Given your history I'd suggest not waiting and trying out a waterproof case. I used an Otterbox Armor on a recent 11 day mountain backpack. No service of course so the phone was largely just stored, but the Armor has some good waterproof specs IIRC and is a far easier case to get the device in and out of than their Defender cases with two easily manipulated metal latches clamping it shut. The downside for everyday use is you lose Touch ID.

 

LOL... I certainly should. I've had a dozen different cases over the years but I just don't like them. Bought my wife a life proof (can still use touch id). She isn't as tough on it as I am but the lil kids tend to get ahold of it.  Down side to life proof is it only accepts the small apple made cables not the bigger third party ones. Couldn't bring myself to by a $40 six footer so i through on a usb extender.  It also won't fit on our iHome without an adapter and apparently there are no good adapters. 

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I thought the point of pouring ice water over your head was to simulate the feeling of having ALS. So it's a way for you to sort of experience how someone with ALS feels (even if only for a minute). How does this apply to a phone? The phone feels nothing.
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That's cute.

No. ITS NOT.

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So you dropped your phone in a pitcher of beer and a toilet?  Luckily, I don't ever have to worry about either of those.  It's odd you do...

Wasn't at the same time! LOL    1st bent over to turn off the water to the toilet and it slid right out of my shirt pocket.  Beer incident occurred when I was passing it to show a picture. oops. maybe we had a few too many.

post #73 of 163
Brilliante!
A troll ad that has accomplished just what ads are supposed to do- get people talking about it. Good or bad.
 
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post #74 of 163

Very clever. Made me chuckle and raises awareness of ALS.

Apple could follow this up with the bucket of cash...." Why did we do this ?..because we can. See you on 9th Sept." 


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I'll be impressed when they do an ice bucket challenge on their photocopier

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Oh?



How is this a response? It's mocking Microsoft's copying skills.
post #77 of 163
Sammy gets upset that Apple is getting all this free press so they spend more money to counter act it. Old news.

Can't wait to see them spend billions bashing Beats while Beats spends.... nothing.
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I spent 4 hours today helping an elderly (and very enthusiastic) person with her HP laptop running Ubuntu (after Windows failed to run adequately), an iPad mini, and her Samsung phone. She said she's getting a Samsung tablet so "everything is tied together". We spent 2 to 3x as much time figuring out how to do things on the phone as on the iPad. Yet she seems to be convinced that "going Samsung" for everything is the right choice. Good luck to her! Maybe she needs an ice bucket poured over her head. :P

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Could anyone else not understand a single thing that phone said? Mac OS 7 spoke better.

 

I agree. I'm surprised they were proud to promote this with such a poor presentation. Couldn't even see the bucket, just some ice cubes and a few drops of water. Overall, a poorly-done ad. Rushed out.

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My 100% waterproof iPhone 4S accepts the challenge! FYI even with case my iPhone looks better than that ugly cheap plastic lag-a$$ phablet

 

 

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