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post #81 of 163
It's not a person, amazing how much market samsung is loosing. Ever advert doesn't even focus on the feature but mainly Apples iPhone. Also no one from samsung took the challenge so they should keep quite because they aren't donating or doing it themselves.
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I also know one other thing that Apple also doesn't take into consideration, what people want. Apple is famous, especially under Steve Jobs of course, for doing what they think is best, and that formula has indeed been very successful for Apple.

You are correct, I am not against the idea, I just don't see it as being on top of the priority list at the moment.
I beg to differ. Apple DOES take into consideration what people what and what people have repeatedly shown over the years is that they want the quality that only Apple brings to the table
post #83 of 163
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3) I like the idea of the ad but I felt it felt flat. I think it needed a lot more water and for a lot longer to be effective.

 

Definitely.  It's called the ice bucket challenge, not the glass of ice water challenge.

post #84 of 163
Gruber says the vid is edited/fake. Look at the time in the upper right corner of the phone.
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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?

 

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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?





Everyone knows ice water sends people 34 minutes into the future.
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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?

 


This is just despicable. Samsung has zero integrity whatsoever. Why anybody buys anything from them anymore is beyond me.

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I beg to differ. Apple DOES take into consideration what people what and what people have repeatedly shown over the years is that they want the quality that only Apple brings to the table

 

There's that old Henry Ford quote, “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

 

Most of Apple's breakthrough products aren't because of people asking for them, simply because they didn't exist yet. 

 

I don't want Apple to listen to what some loudmouthed lunatics on the internet are yelling about from day to day. I want Apple to make the next device that the average person isn't even aware of yet. Screw the average person. Apple needs to be thinking far further ahead than what's on the mind of the average person on the street.

 

I don't believe that research groups or polling the public are good ideas at all. The public is generally dumb, and Apple just needs to do what they think is right.

 

When it comes to features, Apple pretty much does the opposite of what everybody else does, like Samsung. Apple doesn't cram every feature that they can get their hands on into their products, because you end up with a crappy mess of useless, gimmicky features, like Samsung likes to do, many of which don't work well, and bring the whole device down.

post #89 of 163

I think Samsung is hoping Siri will say,

"Oh, no!  I can't do that!"

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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?




How can the top bar say 2:50 when the clock on the lock screen says 2:16? And why is the top bar transparent in the first photo but black in second?
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How can the top bar say 2:50 when the clock on the lock screen says 2:16? And why is the top bar transparent in the first photo but black in second?


Simple, Samsung faked the video and obviously hoped nobody would notice.

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Everyone knows ice water sends people 34 minutes into the future.

 

GREAT SCOTT! That’s why the DeLorean was COLD when Doc touched it! The plutonium was just used to power a machine to condense the nitrogen in the air around the vehicle, thereby propelling it into the future using the sheer power of COLD!

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post #93 of 163
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How can the top bar say 2:50 when the clock on the lock screen says 2:16? And why is the top bar transparent in the first photo but black in second?

Screenshot? Different devices for different takes?

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This is just despicable. Samsung has zero integrity whatsoever. Why anybody buys anything from them anymore is beyond me.

I don't see that as despicable. I'm sure they do plenty of takes and then edit it. My disgust is the lack of attention to detail. If they want to be like Apple they need to start giving a shit about the little things.

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Screenshot? Different devices for different takes?
I don't see that as despicable. I'm sure they do plenty of takes and then edit it. My disgust is the lack of attention to detail. If they want to be like Apple they need to start giving a shit about the little things.

It's pathetic. The water pour last a few seconds and Sammy couldn't get one phone to work for that long? There is no excuse.

If imore dot com can pour ice water over an iPhone in one shot, Sammy could do it as well.
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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?

 

[Before/After Images]

 

Looks like the glass of ice water messed up the notification bar!

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It's pathetic. The water pour last a few seconds and Sammy couldn't get one phone to work for that long? There is no excuse.

If imore dot com can pour ice water over an iPhone in one shot, Sammy could do it as well.

I agree it's pathetic, but not for the reasons you state. The S5 is water resistant, it's just a pain in the ass because you need to make sure the rubber grommet is secure on the micro-USB port whenever your done using it, which would be annoying.

Also, we're talking about water and ice here (and we're not even talking. The iPhone could easily do this for the few seconds it would take with any regular water source with a lot of conductive impurities as opposed to distilled water in a controlled environment. And I'm talking about a bucket of water, not the teacup Samsung used with what looks like fake ice. Was it even cold? Probably not since that wouldn't translate in the video so why bother.



Note the iPhone is not only being submerged but also going in 30-pin connector port first.

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post #97 of 163
I thought that was hilarious! Although the ad could have been done way better
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I was probably the first person to drop an iPhone in the toilet...before they offered AppleCare... But early enough that Amex paid for a new one.

Pulled the phone out and it was still on. Tried to turn it off but couldn't swipe the wet screen. Phone died in my hand and I may have wept a little.

Dropped another one in a pitcher of beer. Dead immediately.

Waterproof would be a nice feature.

So are you ready to go out and buy a Samsung Galaxy now?
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Screenshot? Different devices for different takes?
I don't see that as despicable. I'm sure they do plenty of takes and then edit it. My disgust is the lack of attention to detail. If they want to be like Apple they need to start giving a shit about the little things.
Why didn't they completely submerge the phone in ice water? Rene Ritchie wouldn't have been able to do that with an iPhone.
post #100 of 163
Never heard a samsung phone talk before. I have to agree with everyone that this is quite pathetic. Like they're imitating a bad 80's movie robot and adding an English accent to make it a bit more sophisticated. It really is an embarrassment.
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Why didn't they completely submerge the phone in ice water? Rene Ritchie wouldn't have been able to do that with an iPhone.

I think that would have been an impressive commercial. Here's how I envision my first draft of their water resistance phone ad: The scene opens up to a bucket-looking bucket, but it's clear so you can see through it. Filled to the top with water save for a couple inches. Then at the water line there are 2-3 inches of ice floating toward the top. OPTION 1: You then drop the Samsung Galaxy S5 in a way that it's clearly in the bucket and submerged standing up, facing the camera (this might need many attempts or some special setup to get this right). OPTION 2: You drop the Samsung Galaxy S5 into the bucket where it lays flat with the display up (but you can only barely tell at this point). The bucket is then knocked over with the water and ice rushing toward the camera (Probably easily doable in be one take). OPTION 2-A: The phone slides out with the water so that the camera can be oriented to see the face on and working. OPTION 2-B: A person picks up the phone, gives a firm shake it to get the excess water off, and then... OPTION 2-B-X: …starts using it. OPTION 2-B-Y: …puts it in their pocket and walks off camera like it was no big deal.

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post #102 of 163
Perfect, that means I can urinate on it!
post #103 of 163
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But preferred.

It is not truly waterproof - merely water resistant. The whole premise is a scam.
post #104 of 163
http://www.imore.com/iphone-alsicebucketchallenge-proves-samsung-marketing-clueless-again

And Apple wins again. The iPhone can take quick baths, just can't submerge....
post #105 of 163
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I actually think it's quite funny.

 

Hope they did make a donation as well though, for piggybacking on the cause.

I think this "commercial" shows how low Samsung, and their supporters, willing to be in order to one up Apple. First they made a commercial to capitalize on the charity cause mainly to tried to one up their competitor. Second, they faked the commercial (Looks at the time at the title bar). 

And third, the competitor also passed the test, without the need to stoop this low, or fake it. This is also show how stupid Samsung and their fans is/are, to think that iPhone would not pass this kind of test. And Apple doesn't even advertise it, or brag about it.

Classless corporation. Classless fans.

 

Sorry, someone has to be frank.


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post #106 of 163
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It is not truly waterproof - merely water resistant. The whole premise is a scam.

Water resistance doesn't mean it's a scam, it means there are limitations to its proofing. The Galaxy S5 is rated IP67. The first number refers to dust and other particulars and the second refers to the water test. It's an IEC standard!

In this case, it has to have to have the USB grommet properly secured, be up to 1 meter depth, and be submerged for a full 30 minutes without any water seeping in. If it's still working I believe they then take it apart to verify there is no water in the casing at all.

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post #107 of 163

So... Samsung using a debilitating disease that ultimately kills the victim ... to use a negative marketing campaign against Apple and to try to boost their sales? Classy move indeed.

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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?

 

Aha! I see what happened. The screen at the beginning was just a screenshot. When the ice falls, one of the cubes touches the screen and animates the menu options up onto it.

 

Just like iOS and the Photos app, touch to hide, touch to show.

 

Why they felt they needed to use a screenshot instead of showing the OS live is another question.

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post #109 of 163
The bracelet will be waterproof. And it will be special. And then it will be copied.
Samsung,.. What a bunch of idiots.
post #110 of 163
Have to say that I'm not sure hijacking charity like this is in the best possible taste, but if Samsung raises awareness then that is a positive thing.

The ad was faked? No real surprise there.

Will Apple respond? No, there's no need. Samsung is desperate. They're trying to draw Apple into a spec war and away from questions of security, ecosystem, cohesiveness and quality where Samsung knows it is lacking.

Last month, Samsung came up with an ad telling people they didn't need to wait until later in the year for a larger screen, thereby telling millions of people that a larger screen iPhone was on the way. When you're desperate, you don't think straight.
post #111 of 163

There's a company where you can send in your iPhone or iPad and they'll put a water resistant coating on it. They only do iOS devices, if I remember correctly. I think the name is Liquipel. I emailed them awhile back asking when they would let me send in my Macbook for the same thing; they said they are working on getting a special machine for that. So the Samsung doesn't have anything special that iPhone users couldn't pay for and get.

 

That said, I found this ad to be opportunistic and it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. They think they're rocking viral marketing because they're picking up on something that's all over social media, but I feel like this is a perfect demonstration of just how tone deaf their strategies can be.

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What happened here? I took two screen grabs, one before the ice dropped and one after. Here they are. Did they swap out the phones? Why would the time be different, and what happened to the background behind the top bar?

 

You got me wondering, so I watched the video again, and its actually a very simple.  They took a screenshot of the screen (as seen inside of the first picture) and displayed it in full screen on the device, thus the black notification bar is hidden. The screenshot is of the lock screen which has a transparent notification bar. When the water and ice hits the display, you can see the image move for a second to the left, and snap back into place (similar to scrolling through images).  Due to the movement on the display, the ACTUAL notification bar in black (as seen in your second image) became visible and overlaps the image of the screenshot.

 

Personally, I don't like the look of Samsung's Galaxy S5, in their efforts to waterproof and improve durability of their device, it almost comes across as bulky and unrefined.  

 

Sony on the other hand has implemented waterproofing in a way I imagine Apple would,  with a very sleek and simple look. Something that doesn't compromise the design.

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Although I think Samsung make rubbish I have to agree with you, given the high profile Apple execs being iced I think it is a really clever and humorous ad.

The thing is, Apple do not claim that the iPhone is waterproof. If Apple wanted to they could easily make a waterproof version of the iPhone but from my experience people do not like fiddling about with little rubber port covers that after a while either break off and get lost or their physical properties change to a slimy mess. Anyone wanting to use their iPhone under water can easily buy a waterproof case. My daughter recently dropped her iPhone 5 into a bowl of water and recovered it with no problems at all, it is still working perfectly.
post #114 of 163
cheeky ..

would be fun if nokia , htc or apple takes the challenge and nominates Bada OS and Tizen :P
post #115 of 163
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When was the last time Samsung donated to charity?

 

This is really low class.  If they want to donate to a good cause do it.  Dont use it as a vehicle to bash competitors. 

 

Shows how little Samsung understands PR

Since when did Apple donate to charity while Steve was running the show? Its only since liberal lefty Tim took over

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I never said that I never had an accident. Don't put words into other people's mouths.

A few years ago I spilled a huge cup of coke all over my Macbook, basically killing the machine. I managed to fix it eventually, after I disassembled the entire machine and gave it an alcohol bath and then dried it out, but it was purely my own fault for being careless.

I have never had any phone or iPad accidents yet, and I keep all of my devices naked.

Accidents can and will happen, but in virtually all cases it's the fault and the responsibility of the user.

lol and this is why we can't drink nice things around computers lol ...

also don't spill coffee with cream in it on to a keyboard...
post #117 of 163
"perfect opportunity for the brand to do something that was meaningful but also unexpected."

And yet crass but also tasteless.
post #118 of 163

Oh, yes, Samsung, water proofing will definitely make me want to buy your phone. What other reason could there be.

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Aha! I see what happened. The screen at the beginning was just a screenshot. When the ice falls, one of the cubes touches the screen and animates the menu options up onto it.

 

Just like iOS and the Photos app, touch to hide, touch to show.

 

Why they felt they needed to use a screenshot instead of showing the OS live is another question.

From the time they took the the screen-shot to when they shot the scene it took exactly 44 minutes. In those 44 min the battery went from 64% to 56%. That's 12.5%, who's the "wall-hugger" now? LOL

 

 

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Since when did Apple donate to charity while Steve was running the show? Its only since liberal lefty Tim took over

Apple donates a lot to charities, remember Bono and the Red campaign aka AIDS. Actually, almost every large US corporation donates to some sort of charity, including wealthy families. Even if they don't believe in donations. The money that goes to charity is tax deductible, there are some fake charities which are used to legally launder money. Did you ever wonder why famous people donate to charities that are almost impossible to track, who is gonna travel to some African town by plane, bus, car, bike, donkey, then foot to see if a charity is worth the money. Did you ever ask yourself why do those charities never solve the problem they're claiming to tackle, and what will happen to the charity if the problem is solved?

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Never heard a samsung phone talk before. I have to agree with everyone that this is quite pathetic. Like they're imitating a bad 80's movie robot and adding an English accent to make it a bit more sophisticated. It really is an embarrassment.

They should have faked the voice too, since they already faked the phone's display.

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