How about a smart-shirt?
I know you're a techie, but I guess you may be farther down the it's-okay-to-watch-me-24/7 path than I thought you were.
You described the first situation in a very narrow way: "basic biometrics" (what is basic/okay with you vs. what wouldn't be okay?), "an Apple device" (as I mentioned, many, many companies will be entering this market), "stored in your iPhone Health app" (just one option), "iCloud" (Apple only, though presumed for iOS).
So it more or less sounds like you're saying that you'll trust Apple with personal bio and medical data about yourself. I guess it depends on what your definition of "basic" is, but even then how do we determine what is and is not okay in general? These will be huge societal and legal questions to sort out in the next few years, regardless of the personal preferences of you or I, and individual trust or non-trust in each company.
- Would you feel just as open and trusting of wearing a google device that recorded your biometrics?
- How about a generic android-based device manufactured by a random Chinese manufacturer with a name that we don't immediately recognize?
- Why or why not?
There are a lot of questions that we're going to deal with, both as a society/legally, and as consumers making educated decisions. Again, medical data has already been deemed by our culture at large to be important enough to regulate. This is factual, and says a lot about our society at large, empirically.
The Jawbone story is more or less what I referred to above as "geeks impressing geeks". It's cute and fun, but not important data, and there are already amazing earthquake sensors that can tell scientists and researchers exactly how much movement there was in different areas and the likelihood of being awakened. All without compromising millions of individuals by tracking sleep habits and sending that data to unregulated data-hungry corporations.
I am interested in your answers and opinions on this, even though I was a little surprised by your answer.
This. I think there will be very careful dancing around the designation of "medical device" and what kind of data (vs. analysis) will be allowed (and by whom). As I've mentioned above, I think there will be new legal issues to sort out as these types of devices and sensors evolve.
And This! Brilliant. Let me connect the final dots on this one. I've long thought about other devices and how they work into this type of process (like 24/7 GPS-tracking devices for auto insurance; evil!), but this is exactly how Apple was able to break into the phone business. Look to other industries with financial incentives to subsidize your device!
Apple already did this successfully with the original AT&T deal, and now they're doing it with every major carrier (in the US). Don't think of it as if the consumer is going to do that math; consumers just aren't that smart, in general. But the healthcare or insurance industries are very smart and extremely analytics-focused. They can and will do the math and they could easily decide to subsidize the devices. If Apple hasn't already thought about this, I'm sure they will. Or the insurance companies will.
This would be great news for those of us who are well-vested in AAPL, but scary in the long run for society. Mark my words, it starts off as discounts, then eventually you pay a premium for not being tracked/monitored, then eventually you won't be able to get insurance at all without it. I've long said the same thing about auto insurance, and they're already heading down that road.
Oh, and one last comment for now. Any large-scale data like this WILL be compromised, eventually. It's not a question of if. There are always many different attack vectors, and if the quantity or value of the data is high enough or interesting enough, it will absolutely be compromised.
If it is compromised, what is the likelihood that it will be used for nefarious purposes? That's a separate question, but given the nature of what it takes to get this kind of data, I'd have to say pretty good, though I'm not sure what that would mean to individuals.
Will you want your life saved aged 110 when your body is riddled with pain and you are tired of life and want to go to sleep and not wake up?
Yes. And at 120, and at 130, and at 140. We’ll have at least a partial treatment for the degradation of telomere within my lifetime. I don’t plan to die of anything save for old age, but I want that to be old age.
I wish everyone would stop focusing on ads. Whether or not we see ads is irrelevant to the issues surrounding personal privacy. I don't care if Google showed me targeted (NOT personalized) ads on every page I ever read, online and offline. What matters, and what is borderline immoral, is the data collection that makes them more efficient at their delivery.
Ads are transient. They're not damaging, other than they may distract you momentarily from your reading.
Data collection is not transient, it's permanent, and it grows with each year of each individual's life. There is a constant (and constantly growing) chance that the data will be misused, abused, stolen or made public. Look at how the insurance industries are edging into this data already. Where are the lines going to be drawn?
Anyway, kind of getting off-topic, but it really bothers me when people conflate the issues of privacy and data mining with advertisements.
Now you're scaring the crap out of me. I certainly hope your opinion is not common among the masses!
An engine service light's data is localized. It is not sent directly to your mechanic, nor your insurance company. The data is not gathered and analyzed by large corporations (and governments). That's not the way it sounds like this stuff is going to work.
If or when all data gathering, analysis (data/algorithms/etc) and notification can reside on the local device - not communicating AT ALL back with commercial organizations or data miners, then I would agree with you 100%, that would be an awesome tool. Until then, no way!
Oh, and if there's one thing everyone should be concerned with regarding data mining, it's location tracking. If you think about what kind of data could be easily abused in bad ways, knowing your travel patterns is near the top of the list! The thing is, there are many different ways this kind of data can be built, but I'm not going down that path today, have other stuff I need to do.