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Can't imagine this will be a big seller given the price premium they would charge and the $100 for every bit above 16GB.

My iPad Mini set me back $900 loaded.... this would be priced well above the 13" Air.

 

Then you need to improve your imagination.

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I guess we need to modify Cook's comment from 2013:
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"you will see exciting new products from us in the fall and across 2014 2015."

Are we getting anything from Apple this fall besides a new iPhone and iPad? Based on Broadwell release it looks like new Macs won't be ready until next year.

 

We still have over four months of 2014 left, so your comment is premature. Try writing it on 1st January, 2015.

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I see this iPad as being more of a DCC machine. I see it as being less about carrying it around and more about it being a nice complement to your desktop setup. I see it being the preferred size for Photogs, video mavens and music creators.

I could see the RAM doubling and these coming in a quad core configuration.

 

Why?

 

People carry around 13" and 15" laptops. Why would they object to carrying around a far more portable 13" iPad?

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A larger iPad with an optional stylus (and palm rejection) as accurate and responsive as a Wacom tablet would be a dream come true.

Yes, and I can not see this not happening for a device that would be a sure fire hit with illustrators, designers and other visual creatives. 

 

Fair enough; I also can not not see this not not happening, probably.

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Oh great! Now there'll be an even LARGER glass surface I'll have to constantly wipe fingerprints off of.

 

Oh, the hardship!

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Fair enough; I also can not not see this not not happening, probably.
That won't not never happen, ever, of course. I mean I wouldnt not order one immediately, if I could.
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surely any large iPad would need to have a good stylus style method of drawing / taking notes. No not like the Tab - more like using a decent pencil or felt pen on paper experience. sure you should not need a stylus simply to use and iPad - Jobs already said that was a fail - but it not having a really good stylus option really precludes an iPad from taking notes / helping create ideas etc

I've noticed how the tablets that tout a stylus are careful to not rest their palm on the glass while scrawling in large letters on the surface. If this is what you think of as "note taking" then I want nothing to do with it. Go ahead, bring up your favorite ad showing someone writing on a tablet with a stylus and see what a poor-assed job it does!
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post #48 of 116
Unless this supposed "iPad Mega" is actually the screen half of a convertible MBA, this device serves no purpose...  It won't fit nicely anywhere into the pricing model Apple has built.
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Why?

People carry around 13" and 15" laptops. Why would they object to carrying around a far more portable 13" iPad?

I don't think he's objecting to carrying but ratger the use whilst carrying. I carry my notebook on a zipped bag with handles but I don't use while actually walking around or standing. An iPad would have to do that.

That said, I am totally see this happenjng with the current sizes plateauing in sales and the dominance r has for a vast number of occupations, as well the number of people that use it almost exclusively as their primary computing device in the home.

I don't think size in an issue there but weight could be, but I would bet the weight is probably right around the original iPad if not lighter.

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surely any large iPad would need to have a good stylus style method of drawing / taking notes. No not like the Tab - more like using a decent pencil or felt pen on paper experience. sure you should not need a stylus simply to use and iPad - Jobs already said that was a fail - but it not having a really good stylus option really precludes an iPad from taking notes / helping create ideas etc

I've noticed how the tablets that tout a stylus are careful to not rest their palm on the glass while scrawling in large letters on the surface. If this is what you think of as "note taking" then I want nothing to do with it. Go ahead, bring up your favorite ad showing someone writing on a tablet with a stylus and see what a poor-assed job it does!

 

Indeed.

 

It should be possible to accommodate styli, though. I imagine it would need low-level APIs to turn off the multi-touch and change the target area to much finer than a fingerprint. I think there are apps now that go some way to ignoring the palm, but not with consistency. The problem arises when you start moving around; as soon as you change the palm position, the screen can accidentally detect it as a stylus.

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I've noticed how the tablets that tout a stylus are careful to not rest their palm on the glass while scrawling in large letters on the surface. If this is what you think of as "note taking" then I want nothing to do with it. Go ahead, bring up your favorite ad showing someone writing on a tablet with a stylus and see what a poor-assed job it does!

NO - that is NOT what i think of note taking, please read the words i used - 

...surely any large iPad would need to have a good stylus style method of drawing / taking notes. No not like the Tab.....

​i can't bring up an ad showing someone writing on a tablet with anything but a poor assed job - thats why i don't have, won't have a galaxy tab.

Just as the original iPad managed to eschew a stylus, with brilliant hardware and software design so I will hope for a new iPad that ADDS GOOD / brilliant stylus capability. 

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A larger iPad with an optional stylus (and palm rejection) as accurate and responsive as a Wacom tablet would be a dream come true.
Yes, and I can not see this not happening for a device that would be a sure fire hit with illustrators, designers and other visual creatives. 

Fair enough; I also can not not see this not not happening, probably.

All your double double negatives lost me, but it you'd like to see it already happening, do a google search on the term, "video of architect using an iPad to draw."

Enjoy all 3,370,000 videos....
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Why the hell would I want a MBA? 

 

A MBA is useless for a person who wants an iPad.

 

Ok, fair enough.  

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Indeed.

It should be possible to accommodate styli, though. I imagine it would need low-level APIs to turn off the multi-touch and change the target area to much finer than a fingerprint. I think there are apps now that go some way to ignoring the palm, but not with consistency. The problem arises when you start moving around; as soon as you change the palm position, the screen can accidentally detect it as a stylus.

I don't think that would be an issue since they already prevrnt unintended touches from happening.

The APIs and framework(s) aren't simlle but that's in Apple's wheelhouse so I don't foresee any issues if Apple devices to go that route.

The real challenge I see is the cost of the digitizer. Check out the price of the Galaxy Note. Would economies of sce bring the cost down far enough to make it feasible? Is there a supply issue for digitizers (or other component-related issues that could affect unit numbers)? How many peopel would use this component if added?

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I predict Apple starts to use S-M-L-XL for their device lines, from phone to tablets to laptops... if they keep expanding the product line, it makes sense to help simplify how to differentiate and market their products. Different sizes for different people, different lives and different thinking.

Besides, it would be a cool insider joke on the Rem Koolhaas and Bruce Mau S-M-L-XL book.
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I've noticed how the tablets that tout a stylus are careful to not rest their palm on the glass while scrawling in large letters on the surface. If this is what you think of as "note taking" then I want nothing to do with it. Go ahead, bring up your favorite ad showing someone writing on a tablet with a stylus and see what a poor-assed job it does!

 

That's probably true of a lot of tablets that like the iPad don't have an active digitizer built in - however, writing/drawing with a  pen on my surface is awesome.  Wacom digitizer with palm blocking....

 

I haven't tried it out on the Pro 3 yet - I still have a first gen pro - but, apparently writing on that is even more natural due to the screen tech.  Much less latency.

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I predict Apple starts to use S-M-L-XL for their device lines, from phone to tablets to laptops... if they keep expanding the product line, it makes sense to help simplify how to differentiate and market their products. Different sizes for different people, different lives and different thinking.

Besides, it would be a cool insider joke on the Rem Koolhaas and Bruce Mau S-M-L-XL book.

I want to see GL, GLS, etc. like with cars¡

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I just can't see this happening.  If you need larger than the iPad Air, why not just buy a MBA?

Let's reverse the question: if you need a 13 inch screen why not use a iPad pro instead of a MacBook?
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Oh great! Now there'll be an even LARGER glass surface I'll have to constantly wipe fingerprints off of.

Quick word of advice: Don't eat KFC or BBQ while using your iPad...
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I love how close-minded everyone in this thread is.

 

Clearly, you have no concept of what "close-minded" means.

 

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Indeed.

 

It should be possible to accommodate styli, though. I imagine it would need low-level APIs to turn off the multi-touch and change the target area to much finer than a fingerprint. I think there are apps now that go some way to ignoring the palm, but not with consistency. The problem arises when you start moving around; as soon as you change the palm position, the screen can accidentally detect it as a stylus.


The problem is that the iPad has to leave it at the app level - because it does not have an active digitizer built in.  If you look at tablets like the Surface Pro or drawing tablets that have an active digitizer, this is not the case.

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Quick word of advice: Don't eat KFC or BBQ while using your iPad...

Don't eat KFC.

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That's probably true of a lot of tablets that like the iPad don't have an active digitizer built in - however, writing/drawing with a  pen on my surface is awesome.  Wacom digitizer with palm blocking....

I haven't tried it out on the Pro 3 yet - I still have a first gen pro - but, apparently writing on that is even more natural due to the screen tech.  Much less latency.

Wow, you sure don't know what you are talking about. Look up digitizer ...
And by the way palm recognition works perfectly fine on the iPad.
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Originally Posted by vman815 View Post
Oh great! Now there'll be an even LARGER glass surface I'll have to constantly wipe fingerprints off of.

 

Well, that settles it. This is a terrible idea and Apple should scrap it immediately.

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Wow, you sure don't know what you are talking about. Look up digitizer ...
And by the way palm recognition works perfectly fine on the iPad.

What doesn't he know. He seems to know his Surface has a digitizer and the iPad doesn't.

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A large IPad is total since, if it's goal is to replace laptops, laptop size screens help.

Nothing is going to replace my rMBP. If you are trying to replace a notebook with an iPad, you'll need a keyboard for starters. Then you just have a crappy notebook that can also be used as a tablet with a slightly better camera, but you still don't have a file system, external i/o interfaces, a mouse or lots of ram, more powerful graphics, overlapping resizable windows, and a ton of other powerful stuff. All you get is a cheaper price and onscreen touch capabilities. I don't understand why people would want to replace a nice Mac notebook with an iPad unless they are just really cheap or don't have very demanding computing requirements. The portability would be about the same once the iPad grows to 12-13". The walled garden on the iPad is an advantage for novice users but a nuisance for power users.


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Ok right.  Here we go again.  Apple is going to SURFACE a 12.9 inch ginormous iPad.  :)  Let's see:

 

1. It will be the one device that can replace your iPad and your Mac.  

2. It will have a keyboard, a thunderbolt interface to external devices, a USB 3.0 connector.

3. It will have a retina display.

4. It will have a new touch-enabled operating system. 

 

Think I've seen this movie before.

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.... The walled garden on the iPad is an advantage for novice users but a nuisance for power users.

The walled garden can be an advantage for experience people as well

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If you need larger than the iPad Air, why not just buy a MBA?

 

 

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Why the hell would I want a MBA? 

 

A MBA is useless for a person who wants an iPad.

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I'm drooling over the prospect of an iPad Pro. As an Ex-pat Oil & Gas industry Engineer, who frequently spends 4-6 hours/ day in the field, this would be an absolute boon to us. Instead of carrying a sheaf of outdated A3 or 11x17 prints, smudged, torn, sweat, and rained on, a larger iPad in an impervious case (may be even Intrinsically Safe?) would be of huge and immediate benefit in our business. And already being bleeding edge "geeks of the 1st generation" i.e. 55 , & well-heeled they'd be snapped up in a flash. But since we also work ing the armpits of the world, no iCloud for us. Gimme 1TB of Storage for our massive files, including 3-D walk thru models.... it would be truly transformative for our industry. And our bretheren in the cockpits now using 9.7 inch iPads as EFB's guess what? Moving on up!
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Ok right.  Here we go again.  Apple is going to SURFACE a 12.9 inch ginormous iPad.  1smile.gif  Let's see:

1. It will be the one device that can replace your iPad and your Mac.  
2. It will have a keyboard, a thunderbolt interface to external devices, a USB 3.0 connector.
3. It will have a retina display.
4. It will have a new touch-enabled operating system. 


Think I've seen this movie before.

How did you get to those numbered points from a rumour of a 12" iPad?

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I’ve been waiting for this for nearly eight years. Here’s one place a larger screen can only be better.


So you don’t know what a tablet is, then.

If they can manage to make one that is light enough I am buyer. But i also want a 5.5" phone so what do I know.... 1tongue.gif
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I suppose the 13-inch iPad is made possible by a sapphire screen which would provide great scratch resistance. The way I see it, a very thin layer of sapphire bonded to a durable substrate would be able to withstand the flexing that would undoubtedly accompany a pad of this size and thinness, while still maintaining a scratch-free face.

 

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Ok right.  Here we go again.  Apple is going to SURFACE a 12.9 inch ginormous iPad.  :)  Let's see:

1. It will be the one device that can replace your iPad and your Mac.  

2. It will have a keyboard, a thunderbolt interface to external devices, a USB 3.0 connector.

3. It will have a retina display.

4. It will have a new touch-enabled operating system. 

Think I've seen this movie before.

You forgot:

5. Wearable.  (I can't fathom how, but we were promised wearable tech, gosh-darn-it!)  Maybe it comes with both a wrist-band *and* cellular service!!!!!!

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Choice is always good, within reason, but I'm hard pressed to see how for myself something larger than my iPad Air would be good for me.

For work, yes. Reports about Surface Pro 3 (12" screen) being much nicer for work than Surface Pro 2 (10") are quite common. This might work well with Apple-IBM business-centric initiative. For home use, don't know... I basically agree with you, 10"-ish seem to be about right size for most scenarios. In my experience, if I really need more real-estate, I usually need more complex software too, which kind of makes laptop or desktop better solution in general.
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For work, yes. Reports about Surface Pro 3 (12" screen) being much nicer for work than Surface Pro 2 (10") are quite common. This might work well with Apple-IBM business-centric initiative. For home use, don't know... I basically agree with you, 10"-ish seem to be about right size for most scenarios. In my experience, if I really need more real-estate, I usually need more complex software too, which kind of makes laptop or desktop better solution in general.

If it's your primary (or only) computing device at home I'd think the 12" would be very appealing. Me, I'm sure I'll buy another iPad but I'm not sure I'll ever need one. I've never really needed one to date, but my usage habits are very different from the average consumer.

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A large IPad is total since, if it's goal is to replace laptops, laptop size screens help.
Nothing is going to replace my rMBP. If you are trying to replace a notebook with an iPad, you'll need a keyboard for starters. Then you just have a crappy notebook that can also be used as a tablet with a slightly better camera, but you still don't have a file system, external i/o interfaces, a mouse or lots of ram, more powerful graphics, overlapping resizable windows, and a ton of other powerful stuff. All you get is a cheaper price and onscreen touch capabilities. I don't understand why people would want to replace a nice Mac notebook with an iPad unless they are just really cheap or don't have very demanding computing requirements. The portability would be about the same once the iPad grows to 12-13". The walled garden on the iPad is an advantage for novice users but a nuisance for power users.

Oh please.

NEWSFLASH: the iPad isn't a laptop. You're still allowed to use both.

Dinosaurs like you hunger for an iPad with a built-in floppy drive. Why not go the whole hog and demand a VHS player as well?

A mouse?!! Lol! Are you Steve Ballmer?

Yeah, the walled garden of a million apps is a real hindrance compared to the handful on the Mac.

Power users? Tell that to Tim Cook, who does 80% of his work on an iPad. Tell that to David Hockney, who had an exhibition of paintings created entirely on the iPad at the Royal Academy, London.
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I’ve been waiting for this for nearly eight years. Here’s one place a larger screen can only be better.


So you don’t know what a tablet is, then.

If they can manage to make one that is light enough I am buyer. But i also want a 5.5" phone so what do I know.... 1tongue.gif

I’ll tell you what you are: you're an Israelite and a Philistine. 😛
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I'd buy one right away!

 

To the people saying that this is useless. No it's not. Your comment is what's useless and you are dead wrong.

 

Plenty of people will buy an iPad 12.9". I already have the mini and the retina, so bring on the iPad Pro or whatever the hell it's going to be called! 

 

A lot of the things that people do on an iPad would be enhanced and become more enjoyable by having a larger display. 

 

I don't give a crap if it costs $1000 to start, make it powerful, make it extra large and make it sexy! Tons of people will be buying the 12.9" iPad!

You buy anything released by Apple, Inc. and then try to come up with ridiculous excuses as you why you think something would be so popular, but you are wrong most of the time.  The iPad mini outsold the iPad because people wanted a tablet that was smaller and lighter, not larger and heavier.  Suddenly the iPad Air was based off the mini to make it smaller and lighter because that is what a tablet should be.  An iPad 12.9" would be too large and too heavy, and that is not the way Apple works.  This rumor is probably based off the rumor of a MacBook Air 12" to replace the 11" and 13" models.  Most people would give a crap if an oversized tablet cost $1,000 to start, which in Apple terms is a 16GB iPad.  Apple likes to retain the same resolution for all iPads to make app development easier.  (The original iPad is on its way out soon enough and the iPad 2 is already gone).  If Apple retained the same resolution for a 12.9" display, the pixel density would drop below 300 and they would not be able to call it a "retina" display.  If they come up with another resolution, then app developers would have to re-write their apps again.

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NEWSFLASH: the iPad isn't a laptop. You're still allowed to use both.
 

Do you suffer from ADHD? Apparently any post longer than a few words leaves you completely confusded. It was the post I was replying to that suggested that a larger iPad might be an attempted replacement for a notebook. I'm pretty sure the original poster was expressing doubts  and I'm certain I was not advocating such a strategy, so yes, if you want an iPad buy one, but not to replace a notebook. As far as your other insults are concerned it only demonstrates that you have no wit, no cleverness, no class, and no intelligence. Keep it up Ben you are making more and more  friends and allies with every post. Again you have no idea who you are calling names and insulting. 


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