Originally Posted by cnocbui
Samsung products are not junk. Apple uses their products in almost every piece of significant hardware they make. Apple have tried very hard to part from Samsung as a supplier but have clearly been unable to. Time and time again we get AI articles about LG, Sharp, TMSC and others being rumoured to be in line as suppliers, and more often than not, they turn out to be false and Samsung eventually gets the gig. Even when they do get a gig, the alternative suppliers frequently can't turn out a quality product and Apple has to go back to Samsung cap-in-hand and ask nicely if they wouldn't mind picking up the slack so they can put decent screens in their Macbook Pro Retinas or iPad Minis.
Weren't Apple rumoured to have invested billions
in Sharp to try and help them get up to Samsung's speed and quality? Hardly necessary if Samsung only makes junk.
I have had two Samsung phones. One is 5 years old and the other 4. The 5 year old one I gave to my son 4 years ago and has just been retired because the battery wasn't holding much charge, I am still using the other one and it's still on it's original battery. Both phones have worked perfectly given daily continuous use with the batteries being the only aspects not like new. In stark contrast, I bought my daughter an iPhone 5 and it's battery was completely stuffed after only two years and I replaced it just before Apple owned up to the problem and instituted a replacement program. Perhaps they should have had Samsung supply the batteries.
The reason the colours on those Amoled screens are so saturated is because the users haven't gone into the settings and chosen the one that delivers accurate colour reproduction. When reviewers enable that mode and test them, they tend to turn in a very decent performance. Arguably Samsung should enable the accurate saturation as the default but they seem to think the pop will appeal to more people. The Amoled screens are not junk.
Don't believe me? Perhaps you might believe Anandtech:http://anandtech.com/show/8197/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review-105-84inch/2
As for this marketing strategy, I remember the "I'm a Mac" ads. They were humorous, far more tastefully done and just so much more slick, but they were fundamentally still comparing A to B and saying ours is better than theirs.
I do think Samsung shouldn't be constantly running ads comparing their products to Apple's. It smacks of desperation and is likely counter-productive for many as it obviously portrays Apple products as a standard to beat.
Your defence is quite weak... Samsung makes only a small fraction of the screens for iOS devices these days, as most are made by OU Optronics, LG, and Sharp, and guess what? They are magnificent, sRGB-certified screens that go into iPhone's and iPad Air's. As for the Samsung panels, guess what again? Those screens are made to Apple's requirements and specifications! These are NOT Samsung-designed screens, they are simply built by them! The panels must meet Apple's requirements and specifications. And let's also not forget the fact much of Samsung's OLED technology was stolen from LG.
The screens that Samsung puts in their devices, which BTW, they must ALSO outsource certain panel orders to third-parties if they cannot fabricate enough units for their own needs, are designed, engineered, and manufactured by them, and no one else. They call the shots, the specs, and tolerances of the displays. So I stand by my statement, Samsung panels in Samsung-branded devices are CRAP. I was just at Costco today where they had the proverbial suspect TV lineup: Sharp, Sony, LG, Samsung, and Vizio. The Sony and LG were the best looking, and most of the people around me were agreeing, on not just those few models. But, look around the store what do I see? Samsung billboards around the electronics department EVERYWHERE! Yeah, they are good at one thing, plastering themselves all over the place like a politician on a campaign trail!
As for the batteries, I would look at who actually makes those batteries, because neither Apple nor Samsung make their own batteries. Despite the big Samsung logo on the battery pack, if you look at the fine print, I GUARANTEE you'll find the real manufacturer. And Apple and Samsung have multiple vendors they use for battery packs. What does that tell me? Your particular phone had packs from a quality vendor, which is very rare on Android devices, and Apple unfortunately got a bunk batch from one of their suppliers, simple as that. This point actually shouldn't be used in any argument to defend Samsung.
As for the screen colours, let me get this straight... In order for the Samsung device to obtain near-sRGB colour gamut range, the user must first go into the settings and tweak the damn thing? How many average Joe Blow consumers in the world will actually DO THAT? My iPad, gee, I just pick it up, and it's already fully sRGB compliant and ready to go, no tweaking and colour calibrations needed. While I respect the articles from AnandTech most of the time, I seriously think they dropped the ball on this one. If the screen was THAT GOOD, which having seen them side-by-side to other devices and knowing they are NOT, they shouldn't praise a device that much if it needs to be calibrated first in order to obtain what the competition achieves right out of the box!Edited by MagMan1979 - 8/29/14 at 6:31pm