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The next version of Apple's desktop operating system drew closer to release on Tuesday as the company pushed OS X Yosemite Developer Preview 7 to registered Apple developers.




The update, which Apple as usual says is "recommended for all users," can be downloaded via the Mac App Store or from Apple's developer portal. It has not been made available to members of the Yosemite public beta program, who were given access to a second prerelease version in late August.

In an accompanying seed note, the company cautions that developers will not be automatically logged in after installation of Developer Preview 7. Those with the FileVault disk encryption service enabled will find their system shut down if they do not login shortly after the reboot.

Apple also continues to acknowledge issues with Family Sharing, Gatekeeper, Handoff, iCloud Drive, Aperture, iPhoto, and Safari. Shared purchase history remains disabled on the Mac App Store, for instance, while using Handoff to pass an untitled TextEdit document between two Macs may not work properly.

In addition, Apple's photography applications may exhibit user interface issues like clipped text improperly displayed checkboxes. Importing and exporting could also be slower than normal.

Web developers, meanwhile, should take care to test their websites thoroughly in Safari. Subpixel rendering is now on by default, which may cause layout issues in sites with tight design constraints.

Accompanying the new Yosemite beta are updated beta versions of Xcode 6, OS X Server 4.0, and Apple Configurator 1.7.
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So, early adopters...are the recurring issues you've noted here now fixed?

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So, early adopters...are the recurring issues you've noted here now fixed?

I haven't installed yet so I will get back to you in a few hours on that question. However I seem to have more problems with iOS betas than the Mac Betat. I probably shouldn't be surprised as I use iOS more these days.

However I will be looking closely at multi monitor support as that does seem to be a weak spot when I do get it installed. Is there anything specific you are worried about?
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Looks like Apple’s going to be updating their hard drive icons. I imagine everything in the OS will get the once-over by the time the GM hits.

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I've actually been pleased with the stability since about Preview 2 or 3. There's still periodic wonky behavior but nothing consistent has stood out for me. Granted I don't really use some of the features highlighted in the notes so I might not be a good test.

 

iOS, on the other hand, always amazes me during the betas. I'm always surprised how many apps crash which says a lot more about the poor design of those apps (I understood it happening with the huge shift of iOS 6 to 7, but 7 to 8 shouldn't be as big of a change).

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I haven't installed yet so I will get back to you in a few hours on that question. However I seem to have more problems with iOS betas than the Mac Betat. I probably shouldn't be surprised as I use iOS more these days.

However I will be looking closely at multi monitor support as that does seem to be a weak spot when I do get it installed. Is there anything specific you are worried about?

No. Just looking forward to observations and impressions.

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Every release is better than the next!

I haven't completed the OS X install yet -- not convenient to reboot * at this time.

I just installed XCode6 beta 7 and it looks good so far ...


* In the way way back, I remember a Steve preso where he said that you'd be able to install Mac OS X upgrades with no reboot required ...

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Seems much the same as 6, besides some icon tweaks.

 

Thinner Fonts too...not so great on 1080p monitors or anything less than Retina.

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Seems much the same as 6, besides some icon tweaks.

Thinner Fonts too...not so great on 1080p monitors or anything less than Retina.

I am the other end of the USA from home at the moment so can't install but are you saying the fonts changed with this latest version or earlier? If they are illegible on non retina screens I would have thought there would be a user option to cover this.
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Ya' know ...

I wish that Apple would drop [anticipated] new releases in the early AM or on weekends/holidays (these drops were due yesterday).

That way avid developers would get faster downloads because they would not be fighting all the business daytime traffic and the teeny boppers posting to FB et all.

Also, many like myself have things they must do during the business day (or when the market is open ...) -- so they cannot perform a lengthy install/reboot/install until after hours.

I must say, though -- it's a better experience than any Windows install (of released software) that I've ever done.
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i'm a beta tester and mail in combination with anything safari is completely fucked up:
copying/pasting a url
sharing anything

also, clicking on any active link (url/email) in mail).

mail generates a blank email for a fraction of a second, then app crashes. then mail stops working altogether%u2014anything having to do with generating a new email. i usually have to restart to get mail to work.

this is the only part of the os that is wonky for me.
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Well, I decided to reboot ...

5.5 minutes pre-shutdown install (after OK to reboot given)
0.5 minutes reboot
6.5 minutes reboot install\\

~= 12 minutes lost

Weird thing -- the reboot install was displaying a blank screen with a minute remaining dialog -- then the sound from a YT video [that had been played in Safari] started playing -- then a few moments later the blank screen/dialog disappeared and was replaced with things just the way I left them -- lots of Safari windows/tabs (some needing religion), mail, XCode6 Beta 7, Calendar, etc.

Well played Apple!
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Looks like Apple’s going to be updating their hard drive icons. I imagine everything in the OS will get the once-over by the time the GM hits.

 

New Orange-Yellow iMac FTW!

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Ya' know ...

I wish that Apple would drop [anticipated] new releases in the early AM or on weekends/holidays (these drops were due yesterday).

That way avid developers would get faster downloads because they would not be fighting all the business daytime traffic and the teeny boppers posting to FB et all.

Also, many like myself have things they must do during the business day (or when the market is open ...) -- so they cannot perform a lengthy install/reboot/install until after hours.

I must say, though -- it's a better experience than any Windows install (of released software) that I've ever done.

 

So, uhh, what's stopping you from waiting a few hours to do the beta update? Or does Apple put a gun to your head and force you to update as soon as its released? Why are you compelled to interrupt your other tasks just because an update was released?

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I have been using it since the first DP and there is still a long ways to go, check out the screenshot and I wasn't even looking, I have a long list already sent in to Apple.

 

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I have been using it since the first DP and there is still a long ways to go, check out the screenshot and I wasn't even looking, I have a long list already sent in to Apple.

 

 

Looks like you fit a lot of TBs of data on that little 500 MB drive. Nice compression.

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Looks like you fit a lot of TBs of data on that little 500 MB drive. Nice compression.

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Shhh... Apple quietly acquired Pied Piper last month.

 

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Every release is better than the next!

I haven't completed the OS X install yet -- not convenient to reboot * at this time.

I just installed XCode6 beta 7 and it looks good so far ...


* In the way way back, I remember a Steve preso where he said that you'd be able to install Mac OS X upgrades with no reboot required ...

... maybe I'm just holding it wrong 1biggrin.gif

I would have hoped for each release to be better than the last, rather than the next  :p

 

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New Orange-Yellow iMac FTW!

The return of the berry colours! It's about time. Although, we probably don't need a handle for the laptops anymore. If you have trouble carrying a 1.6kg laptop, you probably aren't old enough to deserve one.

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iCloud Keychain was a bag of hurt in DP6, but it seems to be fixed now. Mail is working much better with my IMAP accounts.

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My issue of using keychain to save my username and password in our SSL enabled internal website still fails.  Each module the page loads requires the login and it never remembers my login information.  This doesn't occur in Safari for Mavericks nor any other browser in Yosemite.  I set it once and it remembers.  It's been an issue since beta 1.  The amount of logins has decreased, but they still occur.  Each time I submit the bug for each new beta, they close it as a duplicate a couple of days later.  Odd. 

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Airport signal bars are thicker and more readable, similar to current OS X.  In earlier DP releases they were razor thin.


Edited by Haggar - 9/2/14 at 9:25pm
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Looks like Apple’s going to be updating their hard drive icons. I imagine everything in the OS will get the once-over by the time the GM hits.

 

So external hard drives no longer have a Firewire, USB or Thunderbolt icon?  I always thought it was a nice touch.  Or does that only replace the generic white disk image icon?

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Hi, 

 

Has anyone met important graphic issues at User Login (when you need to key in your password after the laptop woke up)? I have it nearly everyday on my MBP 2011. 

 

Cheers


Edited by Palex19 - 9/2/14 at 9:49pm
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Finally getting rid of that small 2GB drive hey? Good thing then.

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Finally getting rid of that small 2GB drive hey? Good thing then.


I had never noticed that, you haver eagle eyes.
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I had never noticed that, you haver eagle eyes.

Wish I could say "Thank you" but I simply went to /System/Library/CoreServices and hit Cmd-1 and looked at the icons. The ones that stood out I opened in Preview to see them in all their glory.

Thanks though!
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I don’t think anywhere has mentioned this, but Archive Utility and its associated files have also gotten a once over.

 

You know, I’ve always hated Archive Utility’s icon. Green? Lime green? I love limes–I’ll eat ‘em raw–but why green? 

 

Anyway, here’s the new icon and new file, old file following for comparison. I just realized how silly the old files look! The zipper is down but the zip is zipped!

 

And here’s the icon I’ve used for years to replace Archive Utility’s. Fits much better, but I think I’ll update the zipper now.

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I simply love your attention to detail, your views on icons, and the icons you've created yourself. Thanks for posting.
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Thanks. Here’s something else. Halfway through a session my QuickTime media files changed from black to white. I guess this is the new icon for them, too.

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I’m sure these were done long before DP7, but Apple has also redone most of the system alert icons. The stop sign, the megaphone, the light switch, the color profiles, etc.

 

Here’re the rest of the changed drive icons (gorgeous colors), bookmark icon, and a new icon for the “generic network TV” that I haven’t seen before. I may have–can’t remember anything more than a few seconds–but it’s pretty enough that it’s worth posting, as it’s different from the old one (an earlier icon had the same generic TV as shown on the Apple TV page of their website).

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They look really neat. And the globe is simply gorgeous.
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^^^ What is that icon with the triplets?

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^^^ What is that icon with the triplets?

An only-child¡

I presume home shared disc, or networking icon(?)
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^^^ What is that icon with the triplets?

 

GenericFileServerIcon.icns

 

I notice the iDisk icons are still there, unchanged because it no longer exists.

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