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Leak reveals Sony's next iPhone-connected camera lens will feature swappable E-Mount, pop-up flash

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Sony's next-generation QX-series external camera accessory, which wirelessly connects to and is controlled by smartphones like Apple's iPhone, may include an E-Mount attachment for swapping lenses, as well as a dedicated flash.


Image via Xperia Blog.


Details on the unannounced product were revealed on Tuesday by Xperia Blog, which got its hands on promotional pictures that appear to show capabilities of the new hardware. Specifically, the images show a new QX wireless lens with a standard E-Mount attachment, which would allow users to swap out different lenses for various uses.

The unit also appears to have a pop-up flash, which could be an improvement over the built-in camera flash on Apple's iPhone and other handsets. The current Sony Playmemories app for iOS which controls the existing QX10 and QX100 lenses does not offer camera flash support when taking pictures.

Finally, the leak also suggests that the product will utilize an Exmor APC-S sensor. Aside from those changes, the unit appears to have a similar design to its predecessors, including a clip-on mount that allows it to be securely fastened to smartphones of varying sizes.

Naturally, the images show the new QX lens being used with a Sony smartphone --?in this case, the unreleased Xperia Z3. But the previous QX lenses were compatible with Apple's iPhone, as well as Android handsets.



Sony's unique QX-series camera lenses connect to Apple's iPhone via Wi-Fi direct, and are then controlled by the handset. The iPhone also acts as a live viewfinder for the accessory, while the lens can be clipped to the back of the iPhone or even positioned and controlled remotely.

As noted in AppleInsider's QX10 and QX100 reviews, the hardware took excellent pictures that were a marked improvement from the built-in iPhone 5s camera, but focus control features left much to be desired, especially when controlling the device through the buggy PlayMemories Mobile app and attempting to maintain a connection over Wi-Fi Direct. Sony has gradually updated the devices since their release late last year, squashing bugs and adding new functionality such as shutter half-press to focus, and higher-resolution MP4 video recording.
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I have a hex-6 and a rx100 3rd edition - wonderful cameras, but playmemories is really horrible, and i could not imagine Having to use that just to take a picture. Its bad enough using it to access and email the odd picture. Maybe if new iPhone 6 has NFC, and they can use that to auto pair playmemories each time it would be more usable.
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This is made for iPhone 6 right?
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This is made for iPhone 6 right?

No. It's made for many platforms. Looks to me like it's essentially a lens-shaped micro 4/3 camera that's teathered to a phone for the interface.

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It's an interesting solution, but I don't like the way they're solving the whole attachment issue. Looks flimsy.

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No. It's made for many platforms. Looks to me like it's essentially a lens-shaped micro 4/3 camera that's teathered to a phone for the interface.

I think it is 1" sensor, same as in Nikon 1 platform and Sony's own RX100 cameras. It is smaller than 4/3 but larger than common P&S sensors.

But yes, this is basically a complete screen-less camera - lens, sensor, processing/power. It uses phone for preview screen and controls... maybe storage? Not sure if these things have their own storage or not.
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This is, indeed, LEAKS SEASON !!!

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I have a hex-6 and a rx100 3rd edition - wonderful cameras, but playmemories is really horrible, and i could not imagine Having to use that just to take a picture. Its bad enough using it to access and email the odd picture. Maybe if new iPhone 6 has NFC, and they can use that to auto pair playmemories each time it would be more usable.

I envy you! I have 1st gen RX100, and I'd really love wider lens. RX100 III starts with 24mm equivalent... and is faster across the whole zoom range... I get only 28mm... 1frown.gif

But yes, those are amazing little cameras.
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This is, indeed, LEAKS SEASON !!!

 

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post #10 of 32

I own the Sony QX100 lens and team it with an Apple iPhone 5S.

 

This purchase has been one of my better investments @ around $500

and is definitely not a toy like the other snap-on lenses available.

 

This Carl Zeiss glass has been responsible for some amazing shots in any light conditions

 - that I normally would not have got because I couldn't be bothered lugging my big heavy SLR around.

 

Yes Ive missed not having a flash a few times.

 

But I can leave the lens on a table and take the ultimate high quality group selfie

- controlled by the iPhone and the Sony Play Memories App

which can be a little slow to connect @ times

(I haven't performed the recent upgrade)

 

But the real benefit is the enormous saving in space and weight.

 

I can go anywhere e.g. a nightclub and the whole kit fits easily in my jeans pocket

along with my wallet and keys. Amazing. I cant achieve that with my Nikon D90

- which is sadly gathering dust in the cupboard.

 

I think its fair to say that Photography is on the edge of a major change

 - where phone cameras are making the traditional SLR completely redundant

for normal enthusiasts like myself

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This is made for iPhone 6 right?


not really, both Android and iOS. The phone case that has the lens lock-in mount built in to it is only for their own Xperia line thou.

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I have a hex-6 and a rx100 3rd edition - wonderful cameras, but playmemories is really horrible, and i could not imagine Having to use that just to take a picture. Its bad enough using it to access and email the odd picture. Maybe if new iPhone 6 has NFC, and they can use that to auto pair playmemories each time it would be more usable.

I have an NEX-5 and an NEX-7, along with four emount lenses ranging from a macro to a 200mm telephoto.

This might go well with the iPhone I plan to get on launch day, while the most of the world is still asleep.
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I have an NEX-5 and an NEX-7, along with four emount lenses ranging from a macro to a 200mm telephoto.

This might go well with the iPhone I plan to get on launch day, while the most of the world is still asleep.

I started my sony collection with NEX-7 - on 'long term loan' with a colleague. I bought the NEX-6 because i liked the built in wifi. I have a few lenses - and thats the problem - i can't ever just bring the hex-6 with only one lens - so i stopped bringing it. The rx100 is really quite small- and has the built in wifi. The killer feature for me was the built in viewfinder - i have a new grandson - and i find it a real pain to try to take pictures without a viewfinder. I hope i too can get a phone on launch day - for me it will be the smallest version!

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I started my sony collection with NEX-7 - on 'long term loan' with a colleague. I bought the NEX-6 because i liked the built in wifi. I have a few lenses - and thats the problem - i can't ever just bring the hex-6 with only one lens - so i stopped bringing it. The rx100 is really quite small- and has the built in wifi. The killer feature for me was the built in viewfinder - i have a new grandson - and i find it a real pain to try to take pictures without a viewfinder. I hope i too can get a phone on launch day - for me it will be the smallest version!

 

Yeah, a viewfinder is key for me, and I prefer an optical viewfinder. I'm also hooked on speed, and this burdens me with both the joy and the weight a Canon 1D and too much glass.     O_o

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Yeah, a viewfinder is key for me, and I prefer an optical viewfinder. I'm also hooked on speed, and this burdens me with both the joy and the weight a Canon 1D and too much glass.     O_o

Im at (past) the age i need glasses for reading - a non optical viewfinder can be adjusted so i can cope without glasses. I can't read the back LCD text at all.A true optical viewfinder is so much quicker and better - shame the cameras end up being so big and heavy!

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No. It's made for many platforms. Looks to me like it's essentially a lens-shaped micro 4/3 camera that's teathered to a phone for the interface.


Hmmm. Micro fourth-thirds implies a specific lens mount and a specific size of sensor, and there is absolutely no possibility  that either will apply to this camera device.

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I think it is 1" sensor, same as in Nikon 1 platform and Sony's own RX100 cameras. It is smaller than 4/3 but larger than common P&S sensors.

But yes, this is basically a complete screen-less camera - lens, sensor, processing/power. It uses phone for preview screen and controls... maybe storage? Not sure if these things have their own storage or not.


Hmmm. Why would you think it would use a 1" sensor? Why would you think that the sensor from the RX100 would apply to this? I don't think this is at all likely. It would not take advantage of the E-mount, which originated with the NEX series cameras, and which Sony has more recently expanded for use with cameras that have full-frame sensors. As such, it is entirely possibly that it would use a full-frame sensor. Although that is easily possible and would not be terribly surprising, I think it is somewhat unlikely, for two reasons. First, that would make it a very expensive camera. Two, the article, referring to the leak, says it uses an APS-C sensor (the article unfortunately transposed the letters, but there can be no question that APC-S was supposed to be APS-C). Now, since the article actually identifies the size of the sensor, why are people speculating that it will be micro four-thirds or 1"? Why this speculation, when the article says what it is? Do people think they know more than the people who leaked the information, or did they just not read the article, or do they not know what APS-C refers to? Sony has used several different APS-C sensors in the NEX cameras and the subsequent cameras that similarly use E-mount. Lately they have been favoring the sensors that have special sensing elements embedded directly in the sensor, to permit the use of phase-detection auto-focus. These sensors are commonly referred to as "hybrid sensors". I think it is highly likely that it will use one of the hybrid sensors. Regardless, if you want to know what sensor it is likely to use, all you need do is go read up on the latest mirrorless cameras that Sony has introduced, that use sensors in the APS-C size. Using this size of sensor, as opposed to full-frame, insures that all E-mount lenses will work with the camera. This camera will have strong appeal to anyone who already owns an E-mount camera and who has one or more existing E-mount lenses.

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Sony's latest mirrorless cameras that use E-mount and APS-C sensors are the a5100 and the a6000. Both use the same sensor: a 24 megapixel sensor that incorporates the special sensor elements needed for fast phase-detect autofocus. It is highly likely that if this leak is true, which I think it very likely is, that this camera will use this same sensor. This technology only became available a couple of years ago, with the NEX-6. Previously, a camera needed to have a mirror in order to use this faster type of autofocus, because the special sensors needed were separate and dedicated to the function of autofocus (as opposed to capturing the image). If this leak proves correct, which I believe it will because it makes very good sense, this camera is going to make a very big splash. People who already own a Sony camera with E-mount lenses will be especially drawn to it. The ability to use the same interchangeable lenses on your Sony mirrorless camera and also with this setup, together with a smart phone, is huge. It means that when you don't want to carry your camera around with you, you can leave it home and use your smart phone instead, with the lenses from your E-mount camera and a top-notch sensor, and without having to pay for additional lenses the way that you have to today, with either of the two existing, similar Sony cameras.

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People who already own a Sony camera with E-mount lenses will be especially drawn to it. The ability to use the same interchangeable lenses on your Sony mirrorless camera and also with this setup, together with a smart phone, is huge. It means that when you don't want to carry your camera around with you, you can leave it home and use your smart phone instead, with the lenses from your E-mount camera and a top-notch sensor, and without having to pay for additional lenses the way that you have to today, with either of the two existing, similar Sony cameras.


 



I don't know, Kaiser, I've got a Sony NEX 5 camera, two actually, and I don't think this is all that appealing.

As it is the camera is pretty much the smallest and lightest part of the entire package anyway, so still carrying around the lenses and this mini-camera means you're not going to be saving very much weight or space. And I don't know what kind of battery this uses, but it can't be as large as the ones in the NEX camera, so another negative there.

The 55-210mm lens I have already looks quite obscene on the tiny NEX body, I dread to think how odd it would look hanging off the back of an iPhone!
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Hmmm. Micro fourth-thirds implies a specific lens mount and a specific size of sensor, and there is absolutely no possibility  that either will apply to this camera device.

 

Okay Literal Man. This is a mirrorless camera shaped like a lens mount that takes interchangeable lenses.

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 it is entirely possibly that it would use a full-frame sensor. Although that is easily possible and would not be terribly surprising, I think it is somewhat unlikely, for two reasons. First, that would make it a very expensive camera. Two, the article, referring to the leak, says it uses an APS-C sensor (the article unfortunately transposed the letters, but there can be no question that APC-S was supposed to be APS-C).

 

FF would mean lenses that are way too heavy to snap onto a phone unless they're all f/5.6 or smaller.

 

I think APS-C is unlikely as well, for the same reason. Even a modest APS-C lens, like the Canon 15-85, would be too heavy to rely on a universal phone mount to hold it from falling.

 

I think it would be easier to add smartphone functionality to a mirrorless camera. Pop in your sim card for the day and head out.

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This is, indeed, LEAKS SEASON !!!

 

Photokina is coming up starting September 16th in Cologne.  There will be lots of leaks in the next few days and lots of announcements leading up to the show.

 

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I think it is 1" sensor, same as in Nikon 1 platform and Sony's own RX100 cameras. It is smaller than 4/3 but larger than common P&S sensors.

But yes, this is basically a complete screen-less camera - lens, sensor, processing/power. It uses phone for preview screen and controls... maybe storage? Not sure if these things have their own storage or not.


No, it is APS-C.  Same sensor as Sony A5000.

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People who already own a Sony camera with E-mount lenses will be especially drawn to it. The ability to use the same interchangeable lenses on your Sony mirrorless camera and also with this setup, together with a smart phone, is huge. It means that when you don't want to carry your camera around with you, you can leave it home and use your smart phone instead, with the lenses from your E-mount camera and a top-notch sensor, and without having to pay for additional lenses the way that you have to today, with either of the two existing, similar Sony cameras.

 



I don't know, Kaiser, I've got a Sony NEX 5 camera, two actually, and I don't think this is all that appealing.

As it is the camera is pretty much the smallest and lightest part of the entire package anyway, so still carrying around the lenses and this mini-camera means you're not going to be saving very much weight or space. And I don't know what kind of battery this uses, but it can't be as large as the ones in the NEX camera, so another negative there.

The 55-210mm lens I have already looks quite obscene on the tiny NEX body, I dread to think how odd it would look hanging off the back of an iPhone!

 

Certainly not everyone will deem it to have any strong advantage over alternatives. But, the weight and space savings should be compared relative to carrying both your iPhone AND your NEX5 camera at the same time. For me, part of the advantage is that the camera does not have to be used attached to the iPhone. In fact, were it not for that, i.e., if it were only possibly to use it while physically attached to the iPhone, I probably would not have much interest in it. It probably is not a camera that I will purchase, because it is priced higher than I would have guessed, and it just doesn't have that much appeal to me. I think that I would be more likely to buy the other one that was announced this morning, i.e., a dedicated lens with ultra-zoom capability. It is unquestionably true that these are all niche cameras.

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Okay Literal Man. This is a mirrorless camera shaped like a lens mount that takes interchangeable lenses.


No need to get testy. Your characterization of this camera as a Micro Four-Thirds type camera was a miss by a country mile, and it was appropriate to say so and to explain that you were implying a particular mount and a particular sensor format, both incorrect. Now that you've taken that out, the statement is vacuous. Move on to something else.

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Your characterization of this camera as a Micro Four-Thirds type camera was a miss by a country mile

 

Incorrect.

 

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the statement is vacuous.

 

You should know.

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FF would mean lenses that are way too heavy to snap onto a phone unless they're all f/5.6 or smaller.

 

I think APS-C is unlikely as well, for the same reason. Even a modest APS-C lens, like the Canon 15-85, would be too heavy to rely on a universal phone mount to hold it from falling.

 

I think it would be easier to add smartphone functionality to a mirrorless camera. Pop in your sim card for the day and head out.


Sony's E-mount lenses fall into two categories: the original ones that work with APS-C sensors, and the more recent ones that work with their newer Full-Frame cameras that similarly use E-mount. The newer ones that work with FF sensors can also be used with cameras with APS-C sensors, but not vice-versa, because severe vignetting will occur in the corners. The larger lenses for FF are in fact larger and heavier, as you suggest, but not by a lot, and it would not be out of the question for Sony to make a similar camera but with FF sensor. Even with the slightly more compact lens, the camera still overwhelms the smart phone in terms of mass and bulk. And, it is not necessary to physically attach the phone to the back of the camera, which many people seem to take for granted. And now that Sony has officially announced the QX1 (also the QX30) we know that the sensor is in fact an APS-C sensor and that it does in fact have the capability to do phase-detect autofocus, which was virtually certain. The sensor resolution is about 20 megapixel, and is evidently the same sensor that Sony uses in the a5000, announced near the beginning of this year.

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Sony's E-mount lenses fall into two categories: the original ones that work with APS-C sensors, and the more recent ones that work with their newer Full-Frame cameras that similarly use E-mount. The newer ones that work with FF sensors can also be used with cameras with APS-C sensors, but not vice-versa, because severe vignetting will occur in the corners. The larger lenses for FF are in fact larger and heavier, as you suggest, but not by a lot, and it would not be out of the question for Sony to make a similar camera but with FF sensor. Even with the slightly more compact lens, the camera still overwhelms the smart phone in terms of mass and bulk. And, it is not necessary to physically attach the phone to the back of the camera, which many people seem to take for granted. And now that Sony has officially announced the QX1 (also the QX30) we know that the sensor is in fact an APS-C sensor and that it does in fact have the capability to do phase-detect autofocus, which was virtually certain. The sensor resolution is about 20 megapixel, and is evidently the same sensor that Sony uses in the a5000, announced near the beginning of this year.

 

It's amazing that there is a market that will support so many different systems. I guess manufacturing is just getting so dynamic that costs don't sail through the roof.

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Incorrect.

 

 

You should know.

 

Yes, I absolutely do know. Does the mere fact that a camera supports interchangeable lenses and does not use a mirror make it a Micro Four-Thirds camera? Sony's mirrorless cameras (with APS-C sensors) compete fairly directly with Micro Four-Thirds, and they are not the least bit compatible (unless you find a lens adapter between the two, which is possible but would be weird). To characterize a Sony E-mount camera with APS-C sensor (which is a good bit larger than the MFT format) is downright bizarre. The leak was spot-on, as we now know. The camera is exactly what was described in the article: a camera with an APS-C sensor, without a lens, but with Sony E-mount for attaching any E-mount lens, and with absolute minimal physical interface and no built-in LCD display or viewfinder, relying instead on a smart phone for both the display function and the control interface. The article did a very good job of describing what the camera is. If you think that your characterization is compatible with what was in the article, then you must also believe that all cameras that omit the mirror and that use interchangeable lenses are Micro Four-Thirds cameras. If you really believe that this really makes sense, then why would you not similarly believe that it would make sense to use the technical designation that is specific to Panasonic and Olympus DSLR cameras to refer to DSLR cameras made by Sony, or Canon, or Nikon? How would that make any less sense?

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Yes, I absolutely do know. Does the mere fact that a camera supports interchangeable lenses and does not use a mirror make it a Micro Four-Thirds camera? Sony's mirrorless cameras (with APS-C sensors) compete fairly directly with Micro Four-Thirds, and they are not the least bit compatible (unless you find a lens adapter between the two, which is possible but would be weird). To characterize a Sony E-mount camera with APS-C sensor (which is a good bit larger than the MFT format) is downright bizarre. The leak was spot-on, as we now know. The camera is exactly what was described in the article: a camera with an APS-C sensor, without a lens, but with Sony E-mount for attaching any E-mount lens, and with absolute minimal physical interface and no built-in LCD display or viewfinder, relying instead on a smart phone for both the display function and the control interface. The article did a very good job of describing what the camera is. If you think that your characterization is compatible with what was in the article, then you must also believe that all cameras that omit the mirror and that use interchangeable lenses are Micro Four-Thirds cameras. If you really believe that this really makes sense, then why would you not similarly believe that it would make sense to use the technical designation that is specific to Panasonic and Olympus DSLR cameras to refer to DSLR cameras made by Sony, or Canon, or Nikon? How would that make any less sense?

 

I feel like this is an SNL sketch. One that should have ended about 120 seconds earlier.


The word "essentially" means "similar to." I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to verify that the term "µ4/3" could be swapped with "mirrorless," and not change the meaning of my sentence.

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I feel like this is an SNL sketch. One that should have ended about 120 seconds earlier.


The word "essentially" means "similar to." I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to verify that the term "µ4/3" could be swapped with "mirrorless," and not change the meaning of my sentence.


It is not at all like an SNL sketch, because most SNL sketches are funny, and there isn't here that is the least bit funny so far as I can tell. At least not in the same sense of the word. But yes, I will agree that it should have ended, however the point where it should have ended was with my pointing out that your characterization was simply incorrect. It should not have proceeded beyond that, unless you wanted to simply acknowledge that you were wrong. You should NOT have referred to me as "Mr. Literal". That was NOT appropriate or called for. Nor is there anything to be accomplished by you trying to argue that what you wrote was correct. It plainly was not correct, except in your reality, where you are allowed to use words and terminology in whatever way that you see fit, even in cases such as this where the terminology has a very precise meaning, which you do not grasp. But, if you insist on having the last word, you may have it, because I have already wasted too much time on this. I should have ignored you in the first place, but what bothered me was the possibility that an unknown number of people at various future dates would read this thread along with your comment, and come away with the notion that these Sony cameras are a particular sort of Micro Four-Thirds cameras. This bugged me, and this is why I responded to your commented and explained why it is incorrect. I know that you do not understand this, but if you were able to look at it objectively, you would possibly realize that it would be unfortunate for lots of people to think of the camera as a particular sort of Micro Four-Thirds camera, and that as such, it was fully appropriate for me to point out why this does not make sense. Yes, it was fully appropriate for me to do that, and if you were capable of thinking in a clear manner that derives not from how it impacts you personally, you would find yourself in agreement. If case you still are in denial, I will say it once more for your personal benefit. All cameras without mirrors and with interchangeable lenses are not Micro Four-Thirds. Especially when they are made by Sony. Micro Four-Thirds is a specific mount and a specific sensor size. E-mount is a completely different mount, developed by Sony, and is used with either APS-C or FF sensors, neither of which is particularly close to the size of sensor used with Micro Four-Thirds. Now, I'm done. It's all yours, Mr. I-Said-A-Very-Dumb-Thing-And-Then-Acted-Even-Dumber-When-Someone-Corrected-My-Dumb-Mistake.

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It is not at all like an SNL sketch, because most SNL sketches are funny, and there isn't here that is the least bit funny so far as I can tell. At least not in the same sense of the word. But yes, I will agree that it should have ended, however the point where it should have ended was with my pointing out that your characterization was simply incorrect. It should not have proceeded beyond that, unless you wanted to simply acknowledge that you were wrong. You should NOT have referred to me as "Mr. Literal". That was NOT appropriate or called for. Nor is there anything to be accomplished by you trying to argue that what you wrote was correct. It plainly was not correct, except in your reality, where you are allowed to use words and terminology in whatever way that you see fit, even in cases such as this where the terminology has a very precise meaning, which you do not grasp. But, if you insist on having the last word, you may have it, because I have already wasted too much time on this. I should have ignored you in the first place, but what bothered me was the possibility that an unknown number of people at various future dates would read this thread along with your comment, and come away with the notion that these Sony cameras are a particular sort of Micro Four-Thirds cameras. This bugged me, and this is why I responded to your commented and explained why it is incorrect. I know that you do not understand this, but if you were able to look at it objectively, you would possibly realize that it would be unfortunate for lots of people to think of the camera as a particular sort of Micro Four-Thirds camera, and that as such, it was fully appropriate for me to point out why this does not make sense. Yes, it was fully appropriate for me to do that, and if you were capable of thinking in a clear manner that derives not from how it impacts you personally, you would find yourself in agreement. If case you still are in denial, I will say it once more for your personal benefit. All cameras without mirrors and with interchangeable lenses are not Micro Four-Thirds. Especially when they are made by Sony. Micro Four-Thirds is a specific mount and a specific sensor size. E-mount is a completely different mount, developed by Sony, and is used with either APS-C or FF sensors, neither of which is particularly close to the size of sensor used with Micro Four-Thirds. Now, I'm done. It's all yours, Mr. I-Said-A-Very-Dumb-Thing-And-Then-Acted-Even-Dumber-When-Someone-Corrected-My-Dumb-Mistake.

 

Good one. I apologize to your keyboard.

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