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With Apple's 'iPhone 6' and 'iWatch' announcement looming, Samsung attempted to upstage its rival's showing by revealing its latest Note phablet, a new Gear smartwatch with a built-in 3G modem, and a virtual reality headset accessory -- designed in collaboration with Oculus -- at an event in Berlin on Wednesday.




The Galaxy Note 4 comes with new 5.7-inch, 2,560-by-1,440-pixel Super AMOLED display as well as a new 16-megapixel camera system. The rear-facing shooter sports optical image stabilization, while a 3.7-megapixel front-facing camera allows users to take wide-angle selfies.

On the software front, the Note 4 adds a new "Multi Window" feature that allows users to open applications in smaller windows, overlaid on top of other applications. One demonstration during the announcement had Google's Hangouts app taking up the lower-left corner of the display while a user interacted with Facebook's app, which was full-screened behind Google's.

"The new Galaxy Note 4 introduces the most refined Note experience to-date by combining all the latest technology that users expect from the Galaxy series," Samsung mobile chief JK Shin said in a release.




Samsung's new Gear S smartwatch, meanwhile, moves away from the Gear line's traditionally flat display to a new, curved AMOLED unit. The entire device "wraps" more smoothly around the wearer's wrist, which Samsung argues makes for a better way to read notifications on the go.

The Gear S also sports a built-in 3G modem, meaning it can be used without being connected to a companion smartphone and users can make phone calls with the watch. The traditional Bluetooth tethering system remains available, however, and users can switch between connectivity options.

"The Samsung Gear S redefines the idea of the smart wearable and the culture of mobile communication," Shin said of the smartwatch. "It will let consumers live a truly connected life anywhere, anytime."

Finally, Samsung showed off the Gear VR, a Note 4-powered virtual reality headset. Users plug their Note 4 into the plastic hat, and special software turns it into a wireless virtual reality device that can be used for watching movies or gaming -- one demonstration puts viewers "on stage" during a Cirque du Soleil performance.




The Gear VR was designed in collaboration with Oculus, and famed graphics maestro John Carmack -- now CTO at the VR firm -- was on hand for Samsung's announcement.

"We are thrilled to reveal the Gear VR Innovator Edition, a state-of-the-art mobile VR experience powered by Oculus," Carmack said. "The deep technical partnership with Samsung has enabled us to create a virtual reality headset with world class resolution and performance, all on a completely mobile platform."

The Note 4 will be available in October, while the Gear S and Gear VR will be available "later this year." Pricing for the Note 4, Gear S, and Gear VR was not immediately announced.

Among the slew of companion products introduced alongside the new devices was a stylus by Mont Blanc, custom rear covers for the Note 4 from Swarovski and new HTC-like LED front covers for the same handset.
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A VR headset adapter? Didn't see that coming. (pun intended) That will keep the Android and PC gamer crowd happy and proud. Did you see all those specs?!?! Yawn... 

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The watch looks exactly like a tiny iPad melted onto a bracelet
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You forgot to mention the Edge!

Samsung's innovation is to cut part of the screen and angle it! It'll take the world by storm!!!11!*




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How to tell if someone is a Samsung user:

 

  • If they’ve committed suicide by walking around with a VR headset on, they’re a Samsung user
  • No taste
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Introducing the new Samsung Yawn.

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Not a single thing that I'm remotely interested in purchasing.
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How to tell if someone is a Samsung user:
  • If they’ve committed suicide by walking around with a VR headset on, they’re a Samsung user
  • No taste

Or
  • Got kicked in the head by a Cirque du Soleil performer
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oh my gawd, you got the scoop on the new iPhone etc a week earlier. so -- oh wait that's Samsung, not Apple.

Hard up for page hits that you would play the whole "its relevant cause it could be an iPhone killer" gambit to explain why APPLEinsider is making something by Samsung page one news? Survey says yes.

I mean at least cover some discussion that actually ties the two together and makes it more than just a barfing up of what reads like a Samsung press release.

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Their new watch is being charitably called "fugly" and " like something a person under house arrest might wear".... LOL!

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To me, the fake digital diamonds on the smartwatch display sums up what Samsung is all about.

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I don't see how any digital watch can deliver anything but a Yawn?
However I still love and use my prior gen Nano which transforms into a watch.
 
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What a joke. So they have a 32bit version in some countries and a 64bit version for others?

 

Even worse, it's going to be hilarious when a dual core A8 64bit processor outperforms an 8 core Exynos 64bit processor.

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I don't see how any digital watch can deliver anything but a Yawn?
However I still love and use my prior gen Nano which transforms into a watch.

Based on your comments it's because your thinking is so far inside the box that you can't even tell you're in the box.

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Hey look! John Carmack can occasionally talk in memorized marketing drivel. He normally opens his mouth and something amazingly, abstrusely technical comes out.

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To me, the fake digital diamonds on the smartwatch display sums up what Samsung is all about.

Those are 4th generation fake diamonds which have bigger specs and higher benchmarks then last year. Those diamonds enable a smart, always-connected digital lifestyle.

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But Shamesung fanboys said that the iPhone 5s design was old and boring, lol
The only thing intersted i see from that is the S-pen it kinda reminds me of Newton Message Pad - Pen

 

 

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post #18 of 81
Dreck.

I forgot their announcements were today.

Over under on "SamsungInsider" type articles from AI this week? I'm setting the bar at three.
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What's unfortunate is the iPhone 6 5.5 inch if it does come out will be destroyed by the Note 4 with actually getting work done. I'm not talking about the silly rounded edge Note, but the Note 4. There are so many features that the Note series now carries that are actually geared toward getting things done which many people need/would prefer. Apples larger iPhone will just be that... the same iPhone we have now (obviously with hardware improvements) but just bigger so there won't be any thought on how to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done... how do I know this? Because the iPad which is even bigger does nothing to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done (the current state of the music app for iPad shows this). And I'm not talking about 3rd party app design, I'm talking the OS itself being designed in a way that takes advantage of the extra screen real estate and being designed with features to get things done. Multi select, split screen apps with data sharing between the 2, and other features where Samsung (samsung of all people) has thought through and given users the ability to do more. The lawsuit with Apple awoken the sleeping dragon and slowly but surely Samsung has been adding features to differentiate itself from the slavish copier it was (at least in terms of software). Copying is in their DNS so they have continued to copy other things and other companies. Gimmicks are also in their DNA, they continue to have gimmicky features that no one uses. However one thing is for sure, with every few gimmicks they introduce there is at least 1 feature that's actually useful that I wish Apple would adopt but probably never and more and more of those features are adding up.
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Based on your comments it's because your thinking is so far inside the box that you can't even tell you're in the box.

His opinion is based solely on form, and not on function. I believe even if and when Apple releases the iWatch its functions won't be fully realized until developers get their hands on it.
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His opinion is based solely on form, and not on function. I believe even if and when Apple releases the iWatch its functions won't be fully realized until developers get their hands on it.

He was surely saying the same thing about the iPod, iPhone and iPad.

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His opinion is based solely on form, and not on function. I believe even if and when Apple releases the iWatch its functions won't be fully realized until developers get their hands on it.

Not really. What functions can it possibly give me that my iPhone can't? What is the advantage of lifting my arm up to read something tiny rather than lifting a iPhone out of my pocket with a better reading screen? To monitor my heart rate??? Really???
 
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He was surely saying the same thing about the iPod, iPhone and iPad.

Not at all. However is bet you'd just go for whatever Apple releases without a second thought. I bet you even bought the disastrous supermini iPod Nano too.
 
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Not really. What functions can it possibly give me that my iPhone can't? What is the advantage of lifting my arm up to read something tiny rather than lifting a iPhone out of my pocket with a better reading screen? To monitor my heart rate??? Really???

Did you think you'd be able to do half the things that you do on your smartphone? I totally get where you're coming from, but I'd rather wait, and see before I pass judgement.
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Not at all.

Sure¡
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However is bet you'd just go for whatever Apple releases without a second thought.

If you paid attention you'd know I make no decisions without careful consideration which means I make no decision on a product site unseen.
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I bet you even bought the disastrous supermini iPod Nano too.

First determine what need I have an iPod Nano. Second, tell me what is a supermini iPod Nano. The smallest I remember is the one people made into a watch that was quite popular.

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What's unfortunate 

 

Learn how to format.

 
...the iPhone 6 5.5 inch if it does come out will be destroyed by the Note 4 with actually getting work done.


Completely and utterly wrong.

 
There are so many features that the Note series now carries that are actually geared toward getting things done which many people need/would prefer. 

 

None of which are in use.

 
Apples larger iPhone will just be that... the same iPhone we have now (obviously with hardware improvements) but just bigger so there won't be any thought on how to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done... 

 

Take your FUD and shove it. Go find another website to spew your lies.

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Not really. What functions can it possibly give me that my iPhone can't? What is the advantage of lifting my arm up to read something tiny rather than lifting a iPhone out of my pocket with a better reading screen? To monitor my heart rate??? Really???

 

It's not necessarily function, it's workflow.

 

To get the same information... if I have a choice of:

 - a wrist flick and a quick glance, vs.

 - a pocket/purse excavation, waking up the device, etc.

 

I'll take the convenience of the former any day.

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Not really. What functions can it possibly give me that my iPhone can't? What is the advantage of lifting my arm up to read something tiny rather than lifting a iPhone out of my pocket with a better reading screen? To monitor my heart rate??? Really???

iPhone:
Pull phone from pocket. Use Touch Id to unlock phone. Locate and open BMP app. Place finger over the LED flash on back of iPhone and then press the start button. Wait for the required time for the app to complete. Note your BMP. Close app. Lock screen. Put phone back in your pocket.


iWatch:
(scenario 1)
Do nothing. it does it periodically on its own without any user intervention.

(scenario 2)
Depress button or touchscreen to start app. Note your BMP when it's over or simply read it after it syncs with the Health app on your iPhone.

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What's unfortunate is the iPhone 6 5.5 inch if it does come out will be destroyed by the Note 4 with actually getting work done. I'm not talking about the silly rounded edge Note, but the Note 4. There are so many features that the Note series now carries that are actually geared toward getting things done which many people need/would prefer. Apples larger iPhone will just be that... the same iPhone we have now (obviously with hardware improvements) but just bigger so there won't be any thought on how to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done... how do I know this? Because the iPad which is even bigger does nothing to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done (the current state of the music app for iPad shows this). And I'm not talking about 3rd party app design, I'm talking the OS itself being designed in a way that takes advantage of the extra screen real estate and being designed with features to get things done. Multi select, split screen apps with data sharing between the 2, and other features where Samsung (samsung of all people) has thought through and given users the ability to do more. The lawsuit with Apple awoken the sleeping dragon and slowly but surely Samsung has been adding features to differentiate itself from the slavish copier it was (at least in terms of software). Copying is in their DNS so they have continued to copy other things and other companies. Gimmicks are also in their DNA, they continue to have gimmicky features that no one uses. However one thing is for sure, with every few gimmicks they introduce there is at least 1 feature that's actually useful that I wish Apple would adopt but probably never and more and more of those features are adding up.

 

So much crap I don't even know which end to start shoveling from.

 

As soon as you said iPad Apps don't take advantage of screen real estate you made yourself look like a fool. It's Android tablets that don't know how to use screen real estate, not the iPad. Android developers are too lazy to optimize for tablets, so they let their "phone" Apps scale up. That's the worst method to use when adapting for a larger screen.

 

There's no Office for Android. So how are you going to get work done on the industry standard productivity suite when you can't even run the software? The Note comes with KNOX for Enterprise use, but it's been a dismal failure with only a fraction of users actually enabling it. Of course, this makes sense since the iPhone dominates Android phones by more than 2:1 for Enterprise use while the iPad dominates Android tablets by 9:1. You better hurry up and let them all know they're using a device that isn't productive or takes advantage of that screen real estate.

 

Then we have IBM, who partnered with Apple for Enterprise offerings. This makes sense since IBM is one of the analytics companies that does reports on mobile usage. They know iOS mops the floor with Android in actual usage, which is likely a very big reason they went with iOS.

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As soon as you said iPad Apps don't take advantage of screen real estate you made yourself look like a fool. It's Android tablets that don't know how to use screen real estate, not the iPad.

This can ve verified by simply looking at Google's own states for rating device sizes. Note the overlap and lack of specific aspect ratios, point densities, and resolutions.

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Sure¡
If you paid attention you'd know I make no decisions without careful consideration which means I make no decision on a product site unseen.
First determine what need I have an iPod Nano. Second, tell me what is a supermini iPod Nano. The smallest I remember is the one people made into a watch that was quite popular.

Why would I pay attention to you? LOL as if? Not interested in reading all your personal attacks.
It was the one without any buttons. Maybe it was a shuffle? Whatever I bet you love it- no?
 
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Why would I pay attention to you? LOL as if? Not interested in reading all your personal attacks.
It was the one without any buttons. Maybe it was a shuffle? Whatever I bet you love it- no?

1) They all have at least one virtual or physical button.

2) If you don't even know from a Nano or Shuffle should you really be trying to make a point when you don't have a clue?

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iPhone:
Pull phone from pocket. Use Touch Id to unlock phone. Locate and open BMP app. Place finger over the LED flash on back of iPhone and then press the start button. Wait for the required time for the app to complete. Note your BMP. Close app. Lock screen. Put phone back in your pocket.


iWatch:
(scenario 1)
Do nothing. it does it periodically on its own without any user intervention.

(scenario 2)
Depress button or touchscreen to start app. Note your BMP when it's over or simply read it after it syncs with the Health app on your iPhone.



Again not a hypochondriac- I get complete physicals twice a year. So not interested.
And it's a tiny screen so that seals it.
 
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1) They all have at least one virtual or physical button.

2) If you don't even know from a Nano or Shuffle should you really be trying to make a point when you don't have a clue?

LOLOL I must be Apple stupid and you're such.an Apple genius! That's it !
 
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Again not a hypochondriac-

Neither are people that like to monitor stats to simply measure an increase or decrease in fitness.
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I get complete physicals twice a year. So not interested.

Every 6 months you're getting a physical? Really now?! I'm calling bullshit on that one. The common pattern is annual checkups every year if you're over 50yo, every couple years from 30 to 40, and every 3yo if you're 20 to 30, but most don't even do that much. You're "I'm not a hypochondriac but I get a physical every 180 days" is you just making shit up. It's getting your teeth cleaned that is recommended twice a year. If you don't what a dentist is then google it.
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And it's a tiny screen so that seals it.

That makes perfect sense¡ All those sensors need a large screen on my wrist and in on way to can just work on their own or send data to my iPhone via BLE for recording and analysis¡

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LOLOL I must be Apple stupid and you're such.an Apple genius! That's it !

If you're going to call yourself stupid I'm not going to argue with you.

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What's unfortunate is the iPhone 6 5.5 inch if it does come out will be destroyed by the Note 4 with actually getting work done. I'm not talking about the silly rounded edge Note, but the Note 4. There are so many features that the Note series now carries that are actually geared toward getting things done which many people need/would prefer. Apples larger iPhone will just be that... the same iPhone we have now (obviously with hardware improvements) but just bigger so there won't be any thought on how to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done... how do I know this? Because the iPad which is even bigger does nothing to take advantage of the extra real estate to get things done (the current state of the music app for iPad shows this). And I'm not talking about 3rd party app design, I'm talking the OS itself being designed in a way that takes advantage of the extra screen real estate and being designed with features to get things done. Multi select, split screen apps with data sharing between the 2, and other features where Samsung (samsung of all people) has thought through and given users the ability to do more. The lawsuit with Apple awoken the sleeping dragon and slowly but surely Samsung has been adding features to differentiate itself from the slavish copier it was (at least in terms of software). Copying is in their DNS so they have continued to copy other things and other companies. Gimmicks are also in their DNA, they continue to have gimmicky features that no one uses. However one thing is for sure, with every few gimmicks they introduce there is at least 1 feature that's actually useful that I wish Apple would adopt but probably never and more and more of those features are adding up.

The value of the iPhone had always been its simplicity and even Mac OS is adopting the same UI philosophy. While Mac OS hasn't moved away from, say, overlapped windows, they have added a "full screen mode" which hides "UI chrome" like the toolbars until they are needed. Together with the ability to easily swipe (using multitouch) between multiple full screen desktops, it's an elegant and simple way to use multiple full-screen apps. If anything, this is moving away from arranging apps using windows. So the idea that we should return to 1984 for UI innovations (with overlapping windows, or even split-screen windows, which is how Microsoft Windows 1.0 presented multiple apps) is not where Apple seems to be headed.

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Most iterative stuff as expected, though early reviews seem to be praise the screen similar to the 1440p S5 LTE-A screen. These newest AMOLEDs seem very impressive and don't have the same power drain and brightness issues as LCD 1440p screen in this size.  

 

The Gear VR is pretty darn cool though - no doubt it's still more of a toy and not a prime-time thing, but if the price is right, I might get one just to play around. Watching movies is going to be immersive and I don't mind beta-ing a bunch of new 3D games and app. This is going to be a fun space and I'm looking forward to seeing it evolve (vs. waiting for it to be polished). 

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* - currently Samsung apps only

 


There's your problem!

What developers are writing apps for this type of thing? I really don't think it will become popular.
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Most iterative stuff as expected, though early reviews seem to be praise the screen similar to the 1440p S5 LTE-A screen. These newest AMOLEDs seem very impressive and don't have the same power drain and brightness issues as LCD 1440p screen in this size.  

The Gear VR is pretty darn cool though - no doubt it's still more of a toy and not a prime-time thing, but if the price is right, I might get one just to play around. Watching movies is going to be immersive and I don't mind beta-ing a bunch of new 3D games and app. This is going to be a fun space and I'm looking forward to seeing it evolve (vs. waiting for it to be polished). 

VR is destined to remain as a small market for hobbyists simply because the use cases are so limited and use other than at a desk or in a chair is even more limited.

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