Discontinue The Imac - Page 2

[quote]Originally posted by SDW2001:
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1) The pro towers are overpriced, I agree. But that is because they have an update that is coming....maybe even a very big update.

2) Very little software---See, if you believe that, then you are just not very well informed. Yes,there are more total titles for Windows. But, the number of good, usable software is not much different. You are just like every other stupid PC troll that comes in here...you think that because there isn't much Mac software in, say, Best Buy, then there must not be that much. The fact is that even with a 5% market share Apple has tons of apps available. You can buy from them, the mac distributors, and soon Apple retail locations. You can also find almost anything online. Do a search on cnet downloads under Mac and see what happens. I don't even want to think of all the shitty, non-functional system destroying windows software I have used.

3) Software runs like crap? What software? Office runs great even in classic mode. Games almost never crash for me. Ported over from Windows? I don't even think you know what that means. Even if it has been, it still runs and usually runs just fine. Try photoshop and see what it runs like compared to Windows.

Does Windows have usable, stable apps like iTunes and iMovie? These may sound like kiddy play to you, but I have used them and share the opinion of many that they are not only easy to use but are GREAT apps that just keep getting better. Internet Explorer's interface is awesome on the Mac. It is even more stable than before. How about developers like Adobe, Macromedia, Disney and Blizzard...do THEY ignore the Mac?

This isn't just my opinion and every one else's here against yours. It is that your arguments just aren't true. Not even a litte bit! You are totally uninformed.

FINAL GRADE IN ANTI-TROLL CLASS: 12%

Stuff I use:

Office 2001
Office 98
AOL Instant Messenger for OSX
Internet Explorer
Quicktime (ported TO Windows, BTW)
Mail (included and free storage/retrieval of msg's)
iTunes
iMovie
TextEdit
Photoshop
Music Time Deluxe (for notation of music)
StarCraft
Acrobat Reader

..and that is just the everyday stuff I use. This represents probably 1/10,000 of what is available. Ever heard of Filemaker? How about Final Cut Pro? Appleworks? iDVD? Norton Anti Virus? (not that we need it, troll). After Effects? Illustrator? InDesign?

Yep, your right. No software. Bad software. My mistake!

Don't even get me started on Web software and education software. We'd be here all day.
Have a nice day, Mr. Troll.

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[ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</strong><hr></blockquote> If Microsoft ever discontinued it's office suite software for apple you'd have to throw your mac out the window!! HA,Ha,HE,HE!!!!!!!

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[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
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Besides for the Indigo iMac, what Apple computer has colors?</strong><hr></blockquote> Are you kidding or what?How many red, green, blue and tangerene,imacs and ibooks are out there right now! Tutti frutty for kids and women!!

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[quote]Originally posted by applenut:
<strong>I'm starting to get the feeling that this asshole is somone like 68K doing another "pyschology" paper.</strong><hr></blockquote>
Why are you useing foul language!

[quote]Originally posted by thegelding:
<strong>r-bald posts (over and over and over)
NO! The bottom line is 3% market share!!!


why do you keep repeating that? why do you care? apple's share of the computer market may be 3%, may be 5%, but 100% profitable with very loyal following and Apple will be here for many years to come...can't say that about many wintel pc companies...where will dell and gateway be in 10 years?? Five?? Next Year??? ask packard bell, ask compaq...as for loyality...even wintel users hate intel, windoze and the horrible operating system that is forced on them.
please go play with your friends, we would like to have more intelligent conversations here...g

[ 12-14-2001: Message edited by: thegelding ]</strong><hr></blockquote>Intel is the largest chip maker in the world, and Windows is the world standard OS! Microsoft has sold more copys of XP in one month then Apple has sold of Mac X in the last 9 months! No ones forced to buy XP! Not bad for a horrible OS! Hmmmmm! Must be doing something right!!!!



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[quote]Originally posted by SDW2001:
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Windows is the "world standard" OS because Microshaft stole the Mac OS. They used the billions they had to dominate a market with a cheap knock off OS, forced comp makers to buy and use windows software, etc.

And I don't know about XP sales figures. I heard it hasn't sold well at all, and hasn't sparked much sales improvement in the PC market as it was hoped to do.

It doesn't matter because I've played around with XP and I think it is possible that Windows sucks EVEN MORE than it used to.</strong><hr></blockquote>Why do mac people continually blame microsoft for stealing the mac os? In the same breath you could say that Apple stole from zerox! But why bother! If microsoft stole the os from apple like you say, how come apple isn't in the position microsoft is in today? Apple had the gui on the market first!Did microsoft steal the gui from apple and make it the success it is today where apple couldn't? If so i guess it's good that they did? Right!

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[quote]Originally posted by Ybot:
<strong>Oy!

This rbald twit is so obviously jealous of the fact that such a large group of people (namely: us) actually likes the company, products and CEO of our computer and OS company.

Wheras most PC people admit to hating Windows, Gates and that whole scene, we actually get positively excited when Jobs speaks and new products are revealed. It's what happens when a company is run well and makes good products.

So let's just ignore the uninitiated and uninformed rbald and leave him to his 'smokey quartz' graphite rip-off Compaq computer (see: <a href="http://athome.compaq.com/default.asp?ProductLineId=441&page=families" target="_blank">http://athome.compaq.com/default.asp?ProductLineId=441&page=famili es</a> ) running Winbloze XPlode.

-Ybot</strong><hr></blockquote>Apple a company that is run well? Lets see! 17 yrs ago apple was the leader in gui! Microsoft had dos! Today microsoft has 95% of the os market apple has 3%! Dosen't sound like a company that is run well to me? Looks like Bill Gates is the better CEO! Oh by the way i use a Dell PC.

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[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>I really believe that the only thing truly holding Apple back was the glacial pace of PPC development. 2002 may change that in a big way.</strong><hr></blockquote> Apple's biggest problem is their prices! Lower the prices and you would be able to kick up market share some! Maybe.

[quote]Originally posted by Horned_Frog:
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Hey, I drive a Ford! (1997 Ediie bauer Explorer to be exact w/ Michelin Tires)

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Seems everybody is makin' jabs at me today. </strong><hr></blockquote>
Always buy American!

[quote]Originally posted by SDW2001:
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Your Points:

1) rbald's postings: Yes, he is clogging the servers. mods need to fix this. I told him that on page 1

2) Xerox: Thank you. And rbald...Apple used the GUI with permission. The engineers WENT to XEROX to work on it. Watch "Pirates of Silicon Valley" since you obviously can't read.

3) Bill Gates: Right again, MacAddict!

4) Profitablity/Apple business state: Right yet again, MacAddict

5) Innovations by Apple: Guess what rbald? MacAddict has taken you to school AGAIN!

6) Colored Computers: What's that noise? That's right! It's MacAddict knocking your argument on its ass again!

Also, rbald: It is common knowledge that the best product doesn't always win out in terms of market share. It is the company that is cut- throat enough to win. I agree though, that Apple and its counter-business culture of the time (1970's and 80's) ****ed up the legal end. They should have had a rock solid agreement preventing MS from imitating the MacOS in ANY version.

But, in any case M$ did something illegal and more importantly unethical. Jobs was too trusting and at the time wasn't a good enough businessman to deal with Gates.

In any case, the MacOS is the real thing. It is a better OS, period. And Gates can't be CEO anymore because he had to RSVP to HELL in time to make it down there for good seats for the Hitler VS. Bin Laden match up.

[ 12-16-2001: Message edited by: SDW2001 ]</strong><hr></blockquote>Pirates of Silicon Valley?? Oh yea that's the movie were Bill Gates runs rings around Steve Jobs!!!! MacAddict! What kind of a name is that for a magazine? you got to be kidding me! The MacOS is the real thing? Not with 3% of the market it isn't!! <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />

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[quote]Originally posted by Samantha Joanne Ollendale:
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Yes, rBald, troll that you are, Apple computers definitely *ARE* for women! And men..Real men that is . What is wrong with pretty colors? Do you see in beige only?

I was a Windows user who was introduced to Macintosh by a chance encounter 3 years ago. Our our office converted to all Macintosh, and computer maintenance overheads and deadtime have been slashed. Great for business, the bottom line. Not so great for IT personnel perhaps since Macintosh networks are so simple to set up and maintain?

And to to try to keep on topic, the iMac does require a facelift and some innovative industrial design to renew the coolness factor; if Apple discontinues this icon of invention...what would be the replacement?</strong><hr></blockquote> Pretty colors are good for women! I agree! The imac it's a little kids computer! It dosen't sell anymore! Why beat a dead horse!



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[quote]Originally posted by BobtheTomato:
<strong>Sorry, jumping on the Dogpile.

I have supported several brands of Personal Computers running a variety of Microsoft operating systems over the phone and I can honestly say that it has cured me of any desire to own a PC (Anything I NEED a PC for can be handled by Virtual PC).

There are many more programs available for the PC than the Mac, and most of them conflict in some way or another with at least one other program, the OS, or a driver. I couldn't even hope to count the hours I spent helping folks try to undo the disaster inflicted on their system by a new Application (even MS ones).

Frankly most of the software not available on the Mac isn't worth having (perhaps with the exception of a FEW games).

My experience is that when most home users talk about all the software that is available for the PC, they mean all the software they can pirate for the PC. Who has the money to buy a boatload of Apps? There are more games available for the Mac than I would ever care to buy. Sure, if you're not paying for it, there are lots of cool games. Most of the games that are "cool" enough to spend money on make it to the Mac.

The main reason I stick with the Mac is it just works. I can handle most crises that come up on a PC, but why? I have a life (and a pretty doggone full one at that). By and large my Mac just keeps on trucking along without any intervention on my part. I mean if you have nothing better to do with your time than play with your computer, by all means, knock yourself out.

I still remember the Lady who called in with a new Compaq. The salesman talked her out of an iMac and into a PC which had a DOA modem and software conflicts out of the box and she couldn't understand why her Mac using friend thought she should take it back and buy an iMac like he told her before.
Every PC twit from Bill Gates on down gets all frothing at the mouth about the iMac colors. I can understand why. Dell offers two case colors, beige and black, and most of their customers can't keep them straight. "I ordered a black monitor and a beige computer, waah, why is it so complicated?" Heck, Dell's entire operation would probably have ground to a halt under an avalanche of returns and exchanges if the customers had to keep FIVE colors straight.</strong><hr></blockquote> Bill Gates? Oh yea that's the guy that helped bail apple out about 3 yrs ago when they were on the verge of going out of business! Dell Computer, don't they sell about 5 times the amount of computers that apple does in any given quarter?