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Read the whole thing and then explain why he called them stupid..
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post #3 of 35
The article's credibility comes into question right away in sentence no. 2 when Rush suggests that "The economy is not in a "downturn."" However, he does make a valid point that Apple should leave Steve's politics behind. I think employing Mr. Limbaugh in a "Switch" ad could only do Apple good. This ad could be part of a second wave of the campaign and include notable Apple users like Roger Ebert, Sinbad, etc. Apple could counter Rush's inclusion by also having an ad with a member of the political left. They have nothing to lose. This second wave, though, has be almost Dell-like in its omnipresence. Print. Online. Radio. TV. Everywhere. Just like Dell but sans annoying, nearly-mentally retarded teenager.

Unless of course Apple could get him to do one of the ads...
post #4 of 35
So ... the reason why Apple has 5% market share is because they don't advertise on Rush Limbaugh's show?
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No. The reason is that Apple DOESN'T have an omnipresent 'Dell like' presence on radio, print and t.v.

They've got billions. They've got stores. They've got the OS. They've got the cool kit.

They have products at most price points (could be cheaper re: kit...)

So NOW is the time to throw some serious money at the 'Switch' campaign.

Get the 'Dell Dude' in a therapy group or something...that'd make an entertaining ad' from my point of view...

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post #6 of 35
[quote]Originally posted by Ari:
<strong>The article's credibility comes into question right away in sentence no. 2 when Rush suggests that "The economy is not in a "downturn."" </strong><hr></blockquote>

We're not in a downturn...
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post #7 of 35
Rush is insane, Apple advertises in many Hollywood movies where you see a Mac in the background or some actor or actress has a Powerbook or iBook, also TV shows like "The Drew Carry Show" which get better ratings than Rush's show. Maybe Rush just hates that Jobs is a Democrat?
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Rush is a self-important air-bag. He likes to think that he has more influence than he actually does. He is truly delusional if he thinks he can single-handedly turn the fortunes around of any company. He may turn off more people than he attracts to the platform just because he's who he is. Apple is smart to avoid polarizing issues like Rush's bigoted show and he divisive views. I'm not surprised that he uses a Mac. (I never said he was stupid )
post #9 of 35
While the article by Rish wasn't very good, I don't think it is right for Jobs to blame all his companie's problems on the "terrible" ecomomy. First of all, the economy really isn't that bad. We are NOT in a recession. The recession only lasted for one quarter and the economy continues to grow right now. Apple was selling plenty of computers in the 80's so what the hell is Steve talking about? The truth about Apple's pro sales is that people don't want to spend $3000 on 1999's technology. Their highest volume desktop computer costs $1800, when the average computer is costing several hundred less. This is Apple's problem. Steve is just making excuses and it is sickening.
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So I guess the fact the stock market is down in the low 8000 area compared to almost 11000 a few years back means the economy is on the up-swing?

Please the economy is still screwed, and the more enron, wolrd com things that happen won't help. People are affraid to spend right now. Maybe not you or I, but there are millions affraid to spend 1500 to 3000 on a computer. That's just a fact.

[ 07-20-2002: Message edited by: SQUÅSH ]</p>
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post #11 of 35
Let me just add....the pc market is sucking as much or more ass than the Mac market. Their sales are as bad or worse considering they have a much larger user base.
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[quote]Originally posted by SQUÅSH:
<strong>So I guess the fact the stock market is down in the low 8000 area compared to almost 11000 a few years back means the economy is on the up-swing?

Please the economy is still screwed, and the more enron, wolrd com things that happen won't help. People are affraid to spend right now. Maybe not you or I, but there are millions affraid to spend 1500 to 3000 on a computer. That's just a fact.

[ 07-20-2002: Message edited by: SQUÅSH ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

The markets and the economy aren't exactly the same thing. While the markets are usually in indicator of what is going on in the economy, that is not exactly the case right now. I think the Dow should stabilize around the 8000 level which is where it should be. It went way too high in 1999 because of the .coms. It should never have gotten to 11000 and you are seeing it return to realistic levels. Also, confidence in big business is not so good right now so that is effecting the markets. But as for the economy being on an up-swing; if you are comparing it to the past couple of years, then no it is not so strong. But the facts are that the economy is still growing and therefore is is not as bad as everyone here makes it out to be.

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[quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:
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[quote]Originally posted by Nebagakid:
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is this why they call you the Artman? <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

I say it with pictures so much better. Rush, Bush, Falwell and Jobs...all cartoons to me... <img src="graemlins/smokin.gif" border="0" alt="[Chilling]" />
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post #16 of 35
So this Rush Limbaugh is the gay TeleTubby?
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[quote] The markets and the economy aren't exactly the same thing. <hr></blockquote>

You are right G4dude, but many people base money spending and depend on the market. Older and younger people have savings/401k's, and such in the market. Whether local economies are good or bad, the big picture is pretty sad.

All I know is my accounts have lost about 50,000 or more in the last year and a half, so to me the economy still sooks. You can try to not include the market or say it's different, but it directly affects my feeling on spending or saving.

We obviously look at economy through a different pair of glasses. I try to include what I consider the pulse of america(stock market) The statements by Job's are no different than probably 75% of the CEO's of larger corporations.
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post #18 of 35
[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>So this Rush Limbaugh is the gay TeleTubby?</strong><hr></blockquote>

No, Steve is. It was the pink one that had a gay guys voice and a purse.


(note: not that there is anything wrong with that life style)


[quote]Originally posted by Lemon Bon Bon:

<strong>No. The reason is that Apple DOESN'T have an omnipresent 'Dell like' presence on radio, print and t.v.
They've got billions. They've got stores. They've got the OS. They've got the cool kit.

They have products at most price points (could be cheaper re: kit...)

So NOW is the time to throw some serious money at the 'Switch' campaign.

Get the 'Dell Dude' in a therapy group or something...that'd make an entertaining ad' from my point of view...</strong><hr></blockquote>


agreed 100%
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[quote]Originally posted by SQUÅSH:
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You are right G4dude, but many people base money spending and depend on the market. Older and younger people have savings/401k's, and such in the market. Whether local economies are good or bad, the big picture is pretty sad.
All I know is my accounts have lost about 50,000 or more in the last year and a half, so to me the economy still sooks. You can try to not include the market or say it's different, but it directly affects my feeling on spending or saving.
We obviously look at economy through a different pair of glasses. I try to include what I consider the pulse of america(stock market) The statements by Job's are no different than probably 75% of the CEO's of larger corporations.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I understand. I'm no happy camper either. I've lost several thousand in the markets in the last year too. I have not lost as much as you but it still hurts. But I was mainly trying to talk about Apple's situation. For Jobs to blame only the economy is absurd. "Pro" customers aren't buying because of mostly specs. Look at all the bisching about specs that goes on in these froums! Consumers are not buying more because of the economy but they are influenced by mhz too. And consumer sales are still relatively strong so that doesn't really matter anyway.
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[quote]Originally posted by G4Dude:
<strong>While the article by Rish wasn't very good, I don't think it is right for Jobs to blame all his companie's problems on the "terrible" ecomomy. First of all, the economy really isn't that bad. We are NOT in a recession. The recession only lasted for one quarter and the economy continues to grow right now. Apple was selling plenty of computers in the 80's so what the hell is Steve talking about? The truth about Apple's pro sales is that people don't want to spend $3000 on 1999's technology. Their highest volume desktop computer costs $1800, when the average computer is costing several hundred less. This is Apple's problem. Steve is just making excuses and it is sickening.</strong><hr></blockquote>No, you are wrong and Steve is right.

There's no evidence that it's Apple's crummy specs that are causing people to stop buying computers - if that was the case, Apple would be slowing down more than other PC companies, and that's not what's happening. The PC industry has dramatically slowed in the past year or two - there's not a single Windows PC company aside from Dell that is profitable right now.

The reason Apple was doing so well in earlier times is that the PC industry as a whole was seeing massive growth. That has stopped now.

I don't think Jobs was talking about the economy as a whole (what does he care about housing starts, ferinstance?), he's talking about computer buying. They don't see computer buying picking up in the next 6-9 months. That's all he means.
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[quote]Originally posted by Anders:
<strong>So this Rush Limbaugh is the gay TeleTubby?</strong><hr></blockquote>

In my picture up there it's Falwell, Bush, Limpball and Jobs...really, who gives a good godamn what Limpball has to say? My nephew listens to him and he's become a bitter, angry young man. I don't need an idiot like Limpball, O'Reilly or some Hardball dumb**** to tell me what to do or believe...screw'em.
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[quote]Originally posted by Artman @_@:
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I don't need an idiot like Limpball, O'Reilly or some Hardball dumb**** to tell me what to do or believe...screw'em. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Thats because you were already told what to do and how to think when you were going through the public school system. Its called "liberal indoctrination."
post #23 of 35
What a gasbag.
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[quote]Originally posted by Blizaine:
<strong>No, Steve is. It was the pink one that had a gay guys voice and a purse.</strong><hr></blockquote>

there is no pink one, and the purple one is gay... i cant tell which one that is...
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I would have to say that the economy is definately not in a downturn. A downturn would be in my definition a situation where there are no winners. Right now people are "losing" in the stock market but that does not mean that there are not segments of the economy that are "winning."

While others have lost on the stockmarket I have bought and made a good deal of money in real estate. Everyone thought I was stupid because they were running after dot bombs.... but who is smiling now. I actually expect to start investing in the market soon now that all the idiots paying to much for everything are gone. They are busy buying real estate now so it is time for my money to go elsewhere.

Rush is right in the respect that Apple should not blame the economy for their troubles. Apple has steadfastly refused to drop prices, even when all the parts that make up their machines have dropped in price. They still IBM'ize their lineup by actually chopping out features and intentionally crippling their machines. (examples, no level 3 cache on "consumer machines", no dual display ability when it is already built into video chipset, limiting already limited bus to 100 mhz on consumer machines)

Rush is right in that Apple uses language of empowerment and giving the little guy the power to strike down the big guy. However it is obvious that only the big guys can afford their machines. It is like those nice Hollywood stars that want to help the little guy and feed the homeless but then want 20 million a picture and no public access to the beach by their Malibu home.

People have been begging Apple for "value" machines for years. People have been begging for a consumer machine you can plug a monitor into forever. Apple just refuses to "empower" someone to plug in their own monitor or upgrade something as mundane as a video card (consumer machines again)

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post #27 of 35
Rush's comments were not derisive of Apple. He stated an opinion that SO MANY of us have stated HERE in the past. Apple's advertising never takes that "dirty" step of actually SHOWING the general public our operating system. SHOWING them how many apps there are for the Mac. SHOWING them the nuts and bolts.

Steve's as much a gasbag as Rush, or any other public figure for that matter. I so often find that the people who claim to be enlightened expose themselves as anything BUT when it comes to discussing issues.

If you have a disagreement with someone there are other solutions other than calling them names and demonizing their beliefs.

Rush's comment was a serious criticism by someone who uses and enjoys the platform. He's as entitled to make his comments as any of us are here....and most of you yahoos have said much worse about the company we love...and sometimes love to hate.

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post #28 of 35
he also says that Bush is 'smart'
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Good comic.
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post #30 of 35
Didn't somebody write a book named "Rush Is A Big Fat Idoit!"?
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[quote]Originally posted by MaCommentary:
<strong>he also says that Bush is 'smart'</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, he's smarter than gore. We got the lesser of the two dummies with Bush.
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[quote]Originally posted by ThinkingDifferent:
<strong>Didn't somebody write a book named "Rush Is A Big Fat Idoit!"?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yeah. It was written by a "tolerent" liberal.
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Tolerance is not a political trait by any party.

However, people who operate from liberal foundations have a double-standard when it comes to discussing issues. They are allowed to brand those who do not share their views, but if those same people attempt the same tactics they are labeled with every non-tolerant moniker available. When this phenomenon is brought to their attention they feign innocence while their abuse gets even nastier.

I hate politics, but I hate double-standards even more.

Finally, hasn't this wandered into APPLE OUTSIDER territory?

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[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
<strong>Tolerance is not a political trait by any party.

However, people who operate from liberal foundations have a double-standard when it comes to discussing issues. They are allowed to brand those who do not share their views, but if those same people attempt the same tactics they are labeled with every non-tolerant moniker available. When this phenomenon is brought to their attention they feign innocence while their abuse gets even nastier.

I hate politics, but I hate double-standards even more.

Finally, hasn't this wandered into APPLE OUTSIDER territory?

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Indeed. If I was a moderator, I'd move this to Apple Outsider. Oh well I'm not. But ya, most liberals are very hypocritical and are only "tolerant" to those that share their views. They are not tolerant of Republicans because aparently they are "facists." Whatever, people will believe what they want and no logical argument will change their thinking. I love America. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by G4Dude:
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Indeed. If I was a moderator, I'd move this to Apple Outsider. </strong><hr></blockquote>

The <a href="http://forums.appleinsider.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic&f=6&t=001656" target="_blank">Apple Outsider thread</a> where this is currently being discussed.
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