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post #1 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:06am
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Those pics are available on the french site Macbidouille.com
personally I find it ugly

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post #2 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:14am
If this is indeed it, the metal plates correspond to Apple's new metallic logo.

Not to mention that Stevie isn't going to be to happy about this.
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post #3 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:16am
Ouch! Hmm i find this rather Intriguing... What do others think???

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post #4 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:22am
Hell, this is a hugh leak. It's a shame we don't have any details to go with it though.
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post #5 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:24am
thats wierd, where are the ram slots?, why does the fan on the pulldown side have no corresponding hole in the outside view?. Why is the processor mounted diagonally? It says ©2001 on the mainboard, What is that huge PCI card that looks like it contains huge banks of chips all over the side we cant see? What are the 4 closed slots on the fron of the machine? And what is the point of that metal plate?

Looks abit wierd too.
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post #6 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:26am
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Well if it is really the new case Ill be bitterly disappointed... when will we see a REAL BRAND NEW design????
Personally Im tired of the elcapitan case.
I thought that apple could be more creative...
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post #7 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:32am
interesting and baffling at the same time...

the board looks very similar to the "red board" that was on eBay a while ago.

if i remmeber that board right, the ram slots are hidden in the view by the AGP card.

the diagonal chip is not the processor. the processor daughtercard plugs into the white connector near the top, i think.

i would assume this is an unfinished testing unit. that may explain the large unidentified card... some type of diagnostic card.

as for the case... hopefully it's unfinished. any guess as to what those four notches on the front are? they seem kind of superfluous for an apple design.
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post #8 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:32am
I think the four "slots" are ports. 2x USB 2x Firewire.

But Where's the CD-Rom? Isn't that Metal-thing too small for a CD-Rom? Looks like HD-Dreivebays to me.

And the 2001 Copyright is irritating me too.
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post #9 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:32am
I think it will be hard to improve on the Elcapitan
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post #10 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:33am
MarcUK, if you look at the current cases, you'll see that a huge 120 mm fan blows straight into the side panel.

That board reminds me a lot of the red board on eBay. The diagonal cuts, the inverted positioning of the PCI slots....the dual IDE connectors. Looks like there's a different cage design for the drives too.

This is not your father's El Capitan. It's certainly different on the inside, which is what matters in the end.

pesi, that diagonal chip is the processor. Looks like any other Motorola MPC745x.

Looks like the top photo is stretched a bit. I don't think it's that tall/skinny.

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post #11 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:34am
Not that it matters too much but that is about the ugliest mac I have ever seen :eek: It also looks taller.

Meanwhile why can't they take a good overhead shot of the top of the board. What's with the oblique angles <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

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post #12 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:36am
[quote]Originally posted by MarcUK:
<strong>thats wierd, where are the ram slots?, why does the fan on the pulldown side have no corresponding hole in the outside view?. Why is the processor mounted diagonally? It says ©2001 on the mainboard, What is that huge PCI card that looks like it contains huge banks of chips all over the side we cant see? What are the 4 closed slots on the fron of the machine? And what is the point of that metal plate?

Looks abit wierd too.</strong><hr></blockquote>


The more I look at it the more I agree that it looks weird. Like the fan placement! Not to mention that one card that has all the chips on it. Perhaps we are looking at an old proto-type design and nothing that's planned to be released.

I think only time will tell on this one, but I wouldn't be surprised if this is that we'll see for the next release.
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post #13 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:38am
Somebody in Cupertino is going to be fired.

Nevertheless, it's white. I guess we should've expected that.

Also, let's hope both drive bays are full-sized.

Finally, what are the four ports along the bottom? I hope those are FW and USB.

Looks good to me.

Can anyone figure out from the pics if the damn thing is a 'true DDR' box?

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post #14 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:39am
I spoke to the guy in charge of hardware engineering a couple of years back at WWDC. He mentioned that they often have heaps and heaps of prototype designs that they send out as testing units.

So I am *hoping* that this is one of those prototypes. Because it is damn ugly and damn strange.
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post #15 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:40am
[quote]Originally posted by goof_ball:
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but I wouldn't be surprised if this is that we'll see for the next release.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sorry, this made no sense. It should read:

but I wouldn't be surprised if this is NOT what we'll see released next.
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post #16 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:40am
okay... i stand corrected on the processor. but why solder it to the board? does this peg what we see as a development box and not finished product?

and with the placement of the drive bays... wouldn't they get in the way of the internals when the door is shut?

i know somebody here has a pic of the "red board" anyone care to post? (i don't feel like rummaging through old threads)
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post #17 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:47am
[quote]Originally posted by pesi:
<strong>okay... i stand corrected on the processor. but why solder it to the board? does this peg what we see as a development box and not finished product?

and with the placement of the drive bays... wouldn't they get in the way of the internals when the door is shut?

i know somebody here has a pic of the "red board" anyone care to post? (i don't feel like rummaging through old threads)</strong><hr></blockquote>

The CPU's not on the board, it's on a riser.

I don't see any problems with the drive bays. The connector on the right looks like it's for the optical drive.

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post #18 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:47am
[quote]Originally posted by pesi:
<strong>okay... i stand corrected on the processor. but why solder it to the board? does this peg what we see as a development box and not finished product?

and with the placement of the drive bays... wouldn't they get in the way of the internals when the door is shut?

i know somebody here has a pic of the "red board" anyone care to post? (i don't feel like rummaging through old threads)</strong><hr></blockquote>


Its not soldererd to the main board. If you look at the middle photo, its a close up of the daughterboard in the bottom photo, (look at the chip positions and the mounting holes), which is the same as current pmacs.

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post #19 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:50am
[quote]Originally posted by MarcUK:
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Its not soldererd to the main board. If you look at the middle photo, its a close up of the daughterboard in the bottom photo, (look at the chip positions and the mounting holes), which is the same as current pmacs. Also that chip isn't a 7450 or 7455. Double checking this ATM.</strong><hr></blockquote>

ah... okay, i see it now. the two kind of blend together in the bottom photo.
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post #20 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:51am
So the PCI/AGP are at the top? Well that's....well, I was going to say 'messed up', but I guess it's no more arbitrary than being at the bottom.....

Actually, now that I see the red board, I'm confused again. Something seems backward, but I can't figure out if it's my head, or the mainboard.

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post #21 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:51am
[quote]Also that chip isn't a 7450 or 7455<hr></blockquote>

Looks like any other 745x to me... I own a machine with these CPUs you know...

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post #22 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:53am
What is the little green board underneath that mysterious big PCI Card in the Front?
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post #23 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:53am
youre right, me bad. I thought 745x's were square. Just looked at powerlogix for pic.
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post #24 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:54am
[quote]Originally posted by Apfelsaft:
<strong>What is the little green board underneath that mysterious big PCI Card in the Front?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Not sure about that but my Power Mac G4 has one.
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post #25 of 689
7/21/02 at 2:57am
Alright it may look a bit ugly but may I remind many of you... some of you guys hated (and still hate) the newer iMac revision. I admit I was one of them! I also will say AMEN to whoever pointed out its the insides that count. However, I find this leaked picture kind of ugly but you never know before the press picts are on Apple.com. It seems macbidouille.com is unsure if this will be the shipping unit (hence the question marks on the link to the pictures). I find it highly unlikely that it isn't what we will get in about a month. The picture looks very smooth and polished which is a good sign of a final molding. Not to mention it has plastic covering the handles and side logo like I've seen before. What I want to know is... can anyone tell what type of RAM from the pictures? This thread was the first to make me post after a year reading the boards

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post #26 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:04am
[quote]Originally posted by Apfelsaft:
<strong>What is the little green board underneath that mysterious big PCI Card in the Front?</strong><hr></blockquote>

The placement of this is near the speaker. Perhaps its just an audio amplifier.


Also, there's lots of barnacles on the board with the processor. If these are recent pics, it could be months away still before release time.
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post #27 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:09am
That giant green board is probably some kind of QA debugging thingamajig.
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post #28 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:20am
The green board overlapping the airport (cardbus) slot and underneath the PCI cards is the modem. Unlike wintels, Apple uses (with the exeption of the new iBook) real modems.

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post #29 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:26am
[quote]Originally posted by Barto:
<strong>The green board overlapping the airport (cardbus) slot and underneath the PCI cards is the modem. Unlike wintels, Apple uses (with the exeption of the new iBook) real modems.

Barto</strong><hr></blockquote>

Ah, silly me, you're right. I should have been able to identify the brown modem connector in the pic of the red board.
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post #30 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:35am
Just had a look over at macrumours.com and found some kind of data sheet/description, which confirms this model generally.

It says room for 2 drives (CD/DVD)
Up to 4 HD's
Up to 4096 MB SD(!)RAM :-(
1x AGP
4x PCI
2x USB
2x Firewire
Audio In/Out

Front Holes are obviously for cooling.

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post #31 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:36am
antaisce1, DDR SDRAM is also SDRAM.

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post #32 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:36am
Spymac just posted a PDF which reveals some details!


If the PDF is true, then we know two things:
Those are not ports on the front, simply air vents.
The system STILL ONLY TAKES SDRAM.
And..G4.

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post #33 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:39am
If you look in this thread on MacRumors you will find a PDF describing the layout of a new enclosure:


It's very similar to the pictures here.
What wonders me is, could this be the same leak?

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post #34 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:40am
Apple got very upset by the red board, and made a few sites pull the picture. That must give this machine some creedence(sp?).
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post #35 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:43am
The PDF doesn't have the 'beta' IEEE 1394b connector. I wonder what the chances are that it will not make it into the shipping product...
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post #36 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:44am
[quote]Originally posted by FirstChoice26:
<strong>Spymac just posted a PDF which reveals some details!</strong><hr></blockquote>

This is the same PDF BTW
<img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />

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post #37 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:46am
Ok, so within a matter of minutes one site posts pictures, and exacting PDF files start to pop up everywhere.

Someone is either pulling a great scam or really wants to lose thier job.

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post #38 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:48am
But who let these out?
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post #39 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:51am
[quote]Originally posted by iBrowse:
<strong>But who let these out?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Someone sent them to Macbidouille.com , it seems.
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post #40 of 689
7/21/02 at 3:52am
Why a French site? I'm not sure, such a sketchy event is so convincing.
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