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Rampant and baseless speculation?

G5
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post #602 of 689
Considering that thinksecret is usually right and they were right about everything at macworld. I'm sticking to believing thinksecrets date of august 13.
Plus
their websites in english...hehe

However i think theywill be announced then and shipped in september with jaguar preloaded

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post #603 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by bunge:
<strong>Rampant and baseless speculation?

G5</strong><hr></blockquote>

Exactly! Thats more like it! Doesn't everyone feel better now?

G6! With D-DDR! and Gigawire...

::sigh:: feels good to get that out of my system
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post #604 of 689
Back on topic....

[quote]Originally posted by Agent Cooper:
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Anyway, I wanted to point out, that despite the fact that the pictures apparently don't exist anymore, that there are some suspect dark patches on the side panel of the case.

I showed the pictures to my brother yesterday and he pointed to the side panel, the folding door, and asked "Does that say G5?"
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The G is decently clear and there appears to be an Apple logo in the center. However, the part of the image where the 5 is too far away to see clearly.
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nally posted by O and A:
<strong>Considering that thinksecret is usually right and they were right about everything t macworld. I'm sticking to believeing thinksecrets date of august 13.
Plust their websites in english...hehe

However i think theywill be announced then and shipped in september with jaguar preloaded

[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: O and A ]</strong>[/QUOTE]

i tend to agree. Think Secret is remarkably accurate, and they pretty much nailed MWNY. MOSR has had some accurate reporting, but they tend to be, um, self influenced... like "Uh... We've had similar photos for several weeks.. we're not surprised by this at all... how dare you imply we got scooped!"

You'll notice MOSR says they had "similar" photos but the phots they posted weren't similar, they were exactly the same! That says to me that MOSR had no photos to begin with.

So, i think Think Secret is closer to the mark. Lets hope they come out with a prediction and reaction to the photos soon.
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post #606 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by qazII:
<strong>Back on topic....



The G is decently clear and there appears to be an Apple logo in the center. However, the part of the image where the 5 is too far away to see clearly.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You think its a 5? I hope so, but I'm not sure enough yet. What do you think the chances are of more photos being leaked? or the possiblity that putting "G5" on the side of a prototype is someone at apple's idea of a cruel cruel Joke?
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post #607 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Agent Cooper:
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You think its a 5? I hope so, but I'm not sure enough yet. What do you think the chances are of more photos being leaked? or the possiblity that putting "G5" on the side of a prototype is someone at apple's idea of a cruel cruel Joke?</strong><hr></blockquote>

There's just not enough data to determine what's there. I doubt this is a cruel joke; if it were, the G5 would be more plainly visible.
post #608 of 689
Think secret did not really nail MWNY. Spymac did. Now that is scary!
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post #609 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Agent Cooper:
<strong>You'll notice MOSR says they had "similar" photos but the phots they posted weren't similar, they were exactly the same! That says to me that MOSR had no photos to begin with.</strong><hr></blockquote>

MOSR is full of it. They just read that stuff elsewhere, put it in the blender and cite it as a source!?
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post #610 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by qazII:
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There's just not enough data to determine what's there. I doubt this is a cruel joke; if it were, the G5 would be more plainly visible.</strong><hr></blockquote>

You're right.. Cruelty outweighs discretion...

If it is a G5, then do you think that Jaguar will have a 64bit version ready to ship concurrently with the 32 bit version? What will this mean for the forward compatibilty of Apps?

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post #611 of 689
i see this quickly turning into another rendition of the "Mercury Rising" thread....

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post #612 of 689
Anybody have a link of the pic, I missed them?
post #613 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Eyedea:
<strong>Anybody have a link of the pic, I missed them?</strong><hr></blockquote>

DO NOT ask for pics.
post #614 of 689
thats not a 5 thats a 3 !!!! :eek:

and i cant bleave i read the whole thing <img src="graemlins/bugeye.gif" border="0" alt="[Skeptical]" />
post #615 of 689
Question:

Which pics are you guys looking at?
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post #616 of 689
One or two more 'authoratative' sources have gone remarkably quiet. Go figure.

Apple do their 'cease and desist' routine. Obvious.

Hell. After all the fuss, hotair and 'cease and desist' notices...I'd expect something worth keeping a secret to be announced in due course. 1.4 duals with DDR is the least of what to expect based on that kind of cooling...and this amount of fuss.

I'd like to see Apple surprise us...

With the 'Shake' shipping relatively soon...you'd expect 'decent' hardware to correspond with that...wouldn't you?

Afterall, if you're fond of doing bake offs...lets see a 'Shake' bench.

Dual Athlon vs Dual G4 and see which wins, right?

In light of recent benchmarks found on the net...the next 'power'Mac release should really impress... (...and no G4 tower announcement has impressed me since it was first launched...)

What will August bring...me wonders...

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post #617 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>Question:

Which pics are you guys looking at?</strong><hr></blockquote>

What pics? I've never seen any pics.....
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[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
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[quote]Originally posted by Jamie:
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DO NOT ask for pics.</strong><hr></blockquote>

i dont know what to think anymore. i thought the whole disappearing-reappearing thread trick was a joke. i didn't really believe apple's legal had contacted AI or anything (after all, sooooo many people have already seen/copied the pictures). but this remark from Jamie doesn't seem quite so funny.

the forums were lacking their oomph for a while, until these pics surfaced. the fun is back (as someone's already mentioned), but it seems apple has crushed it.

could this be the end of zombie shakespeare...i mean...of rumormongering? is apple going to seek out every somewhat credible leak and plug it?
post #620 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>Jamie, I don't understand why pics are all over MacNN.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

MacNN is MacNN. AppleInsider is AppleInsider.

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[quote]Originally posted by thuh Freak:
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the forums were lacking their oomph for a while, until these pics surfaced. the fun is back (as someone's already mentioned), but it seems apple has crushed it.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I disagree. I think the fact that Apple has gone nuts with the Cease and Desists partially confirms the validity of these photos - which only adds fuel to the disscusion.
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post #622 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by qazII:
<strong>Back on topic....



The G is decently clear and there appears to be an Apple logo in the center. However, the part of the image where the 5 is too far away to see clearly.</strong><hr></blockquote>

I don't see that. If anything, I see the Apple logo, the same logo we've had for almost 2 years now.
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post #623 of 689
From MacNN-


[quote] Well about the specs of the New G4's

The New Machine Pics we saw are real
(This coming from a friend of mine who works at apple and verified by a Couple Co-Workers of mine, who are in Cupertino working with Apple on some new Software specs for our products)

1. The case is real (Sorry no POS Unit Attached hehehe)
2. 166 Front Side
3. 300 Back Side
4. up to 2.5 GB of Ram
5. G4 and G5 Slots (But if you try and open the G5 Slot without a Processor, your warranty is Void, because it will short out the MOBO (This Might Change)
6. Will be announced when Apple Releases OS X 10.2
5. Super Drives on both Highend Models
7. the 2 USB Ports in back and the 2 Firewire Ports in Back are both USB and FW 2.0
8. and the 2 FW Ports up front are FW 1.0

The Chips will be like this

1.0 GHz (low end) 1.2 (Mid) (With Dual Processor Option) 1.4 (high) (Again with Dual Processors Available)

Thats all I know....

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post #624 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by Agent Cooper:
<strong>I disagree. I think the fact that Apple has gone nuts with the Cease and Desists partially confirms the validity of these photos - which only adds fuel to the disscusion.</strong><hr></blockquote>

the cease and desists don't necessarily mean that the photos (or future evidence) are legit. It just means that apple wants to stop people from looking at them. it could be a smoke screen. remember that in order for these pictures to be legit, it would infer that Apple is actually making new powermacs. That requires a person to be optimistic. when dealing with apple, only pessimism pays off --optimists only get disappointed.
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[quote]Originally posted by anand:
<strong>Think secret did not really nail MWNY. Spymac did. Now that is scary!</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #626 of 689
[quote]Think secret did not really nail MWNY. Spymac did. Now that is scary!<hr></blockquote>

Spymac predicted new portables at MWNY. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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[quote]Originally posted by thuh Freak:
<strong>

the cease and desists don't necessarily mean that the photos (or future evidence) are legit. It just means that apple wants to stop people from looking at them. it could be a smoke screen. remember that in order for these pictures to be legit, it would infer that Apple is actually making new powermacs. That requires a person to be optimistic. when dealing with apple, only pessimism pays off --optimists only get disappointed.</strong><hr></blockquote>

once again i point out what i've said before apple has never sent a cease and desist order for any other fake crap thats been out there and they have eachtime something legit has leaked out.
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[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Matsu ]</p>
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[quote]Originally posted by O and A:
<strong>once again i point out what i've said before apple has never sent a cease and desist order for any other fake crap thats been out there and they have eachtime something legit has leaked out.</strong><hr></blockquote>

well, this could be the first one(s). and even if the picture is real, it doesn't mean whats depicted is a finished case. maybe Apple is just ceasing (and desisting) people from viewing their test boxen.
post #630 of 689
Now that I look at the pic over at MacNN, it just might have G5 silk-screened on the side, but I can't really tell.
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[quote]Originally posted by thuh Freak:
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the cease and desists don't necessarily mean that the photos (or future evidence) are legit. It just means that apple wants to stop people from looking at them. it could be a smoke screen. remember that in order for these pictures to be legit, it would infer that Apple is actually making new powermacs. That requires a person to be optimistic. when dealing with apple, only pessimism pays off --optimists only get disappointed.</strong><hr></blockquote>
I admit I am an optimist, and yes I've been dissapointed by apple before, but almost four years with the same quality machine, G3 B&W 350Mhz, has been anything but a dissapointment.

And I agree with you that the Cease and Desist does not confirm the validity of the photos, you'll notice i said that it partially confirms their validity. I also agree with you that optomists are the only ones who get dissapointed, and that pessimism is a perfectly rational and reasonable response. But not all of us are pessimists, and i don't think we'ed be having disscusions about future hardware if we were pessimists

My point, in the whole, is that the Cease and Desist orders from apple have not squealched this conversation, i think they have fortified it. You're still posting, aren't You? I am. Lots of other people are. people are still fascinated, because people still want new PowerMacs, and we're waiting for a significant speed bump before buying.

Apple knows what we're waiting for, and they'll deliver as best they can. They're not malicous, they don't hold back out of spite. They, like any other company trying to make a profit, want to sell the best product they can and make as much money as they can while selling it.

My advice - prepare for new PowerMacs. pray for g5s. Expect DDR.
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post #632 of 689
Animaniac:

That's why they say: Patience is a virtue.
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post #633 of 689
WHoever posted the Pics felt safe taking a pic of the processor, Apple58 claimed he was unable to disclose specs to avoid identifying himself. That makes me think it is just a clock speed and not a processor change. Of course I guess if they were all G5s with a variety of clock speeds that might explain it too (but then he could have said G5 and ignored the clock speed issue). Where with a G4 the only thing he could have given us is a clock speed. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" />
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post #634 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by BobtheTomato:
<strong> (but then he could have said G5 and ignored the clock speed issue). Where with a G4 the only thing he could have given us is a clock speed. <img src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>
On the PDF, he did say "G5 Ready" Which isn't very clear at all...
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post #635 of 689
[quote]Originally posted by O and A:
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their websites in english...hehe
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That's always a plus!
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[quote]Originally posted by Matsu:
<strong>Now that I look at the pic over at MacNN, it just might have G5 silk-screened on the side, but I can't really tell.</strong><hr></blockquote>
No way. You can't make a subliminal Mickey Mouse with a 5.
post #637 of 689
I found this is the MacNN thread on the recent leaked photos, a guy took the protoype and cleaned it up some, it looks slick!

yay I want a cease and desist letter Apple!

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DO NOT link to these pics.

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post #638 of 689
DO NOT post these pics.

[ 07-24-2002: Message edited by: Jamie ]

Yawn, why don't you take Apple on or you are going to be awake all night removing these things.

Freedom of speech should allow us to tell others where to look and that includes publishing URL's. If Flint can win so can you. Every motoring magazine prints spy picturers of development cars.

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post #639 of 689
uh oh I made Jamie mad. It's seems everyone is doing that these days.

Anyway, mods how are you going to keep these pics off of AI without you all have one massive simultaneous heart attack? (rhetorical, by the way)
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Every time I come back to the AI forums, it seems that a few more pages have been added to this thread. It's unreal. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />

In terms of posts per day, this has got to be the most active thread the AI forums have ever had.
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