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post #1 of 70
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For the last several weeks I've noticed that the boards have been chock-a-block full of locked threads (a couple of mine included). If you'll pay attention you'll see that the admins are really policing the boards and shutting down or moving threads that don't belong in the various forums. This means that they're actually reading the boards and keeping them on-topic. There have been times in AI's past when this wasn't the case.

I just thought that I'd point this out, as I don't expect that these guys get paid for their work here. Good job admins!

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post #2 of 70
I agree. The admins and moderators have been on the ball as of late.

As payment, I'll hang around here a little more often.
post #3 of 70
yeah, I see that, too.
since Jamie's a mod now, I see him move or close threads very often.

Good Job !

(EDIT: not that the other mods aren't doing anything, but I see Jamie the most often)

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post #4 of 70
Don't kid yourself. It's a lucrative career. They get paid for each locked or moved thread. When the lid blows off this dump and the corruption is exposed, Enron and WorldCom will no longer have to take the heat in the press. The Admins' and moderators' kickbacks are the tip of the iceberg. When the press finds out Junkyard Dawg is really Martha Stewart, watch out!
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post #5 of 70
I agree, its nice. On another point, several times araound here I've seen posts fishing for warez. I have blasted some responses to the offenders, and noticed later that the thread is completely gone, not just locked. I commend the policy. This is a great forum of interesting people, and piracy should not be a part of it.
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post #6 of 70
I think they have been over zelous in some occasions, but correct for about 80% of the time.
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post #7 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by murk:
<strong>Don't kid yourself. It's a lucrative career. They get paid for each locked or moved thread. When the lid blows off this dump and the corruption is exposed, Enron and WorldCom will no longer have to take the heat in the press. The Admins' and moderators' kickbacks are the tip of the iceberg. When the press finds out Junkyard Dawg is really Martha Stewart, watch out! </strong><hr></blockquote>

SHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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post #8 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by gorgonzola:
<strong>

SHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Pssst, gorgonzola, ban murk! He knows too much :eek:
post #9 of 70
Anyone remember MWSF when Jonathan went on a rampage and locked almost all the threads in Future Hardware? That was great !
(On a side note: Did a event like that happen last year around MWNY time? Oh how my memory worsens.)
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post #10 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Crusader:
<strong>Anyone remember MWSF when Jonathan went on a rampage and locked almost all the threads in Future Hardware? That was great !
(On a side note: Did a event like that happen last year around MWNY time? Oh how my memory worsens.)</strong><hr></blockquote>

A. the rampage will repeat itself this year.

**confirmed**

B. i've got a new partner in crime. (crazy Jamie)

C. Forums were GONE MWNY last year. We came back Sept. 20th or so,
post #11 of 70
When did AI go down last year? I remember lots of G5 speculation, but I did go on vacation the week before MW, and then I flew up to MWNY so I guess I didn't notice the "Great Shutdown" until afterwords. Seems kinda quiet right now, but we still have two weeks or so...

Bring on the locked threads!
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post #12 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Fran441:
<strong>I agree. The admins and moderators have been on the ball as of late.

As payment, I'll hang around here a little more often. </strong><hr></blockquote>

I use to know some formers mods that never closed any threads
post #13 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>

C. Forums were GONE MWNY last year. We came back Sept. 20th or so,</strong><hr></blockquote>

Sept. 20th? Didn't AI come back November 12th?
post #14 of 70
Let me second everyone's props to the Administrators. You guys run this board with the gumption I used to have when I was one of six SysOps running Vermont's only multi-line BBS when I was in high school.

Ah, the Computer Club. Good times. Then came Girls.

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post #15 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
<strong>

Sept. 20th? Didn't AI come back November 12th?</strong><hr></blockquote>

hell if i know... i just remembered it was after sept 11th by a good margin... therefore... i guesstimated.

shoot me, eric.
post #16 of 70
close this thread at once!
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post #17 of 70
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All I know is that my account was totally wiped in the Great Shutdown of 2001 and I had to re-sub to the forum when we all started moving back over from Bad Flamingo. Gosh, and I was one of the oldest of the old-timers here at AI though I hardly ever bragged about it until that designation disappeared! Now I just have a paltry post count and seem like a thread-starter of ill-repute.

Wait'll Jonathan sees all the off-topic posts in the next week or two...I think I can hear the storm clouds gathering.....

Ka-Boom! CLOSED!
Ka-Boom! LOCKED!
Ka-Boom! SMACKED DOWN!

Who were the old Admins?
I remember Eugene being one. Who else was an admin back in the good-old days? PowerDoc, were you one?
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post #18 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
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I remember Eugene being one. Who else was an admin back in the good-old days? PowerDoc, were you one?[/i][/b]</strong><hr></blockquote>
no, and Eugene was a moderator, if my memory is good.
post #19 of 70
I'm happy with the moderating of the boards too. I've noticed Jamie's enthusiastic zeal for the job the most of late... moreso than I noticed any other moderating before hand. But then again it's holidays (and not long to MWNY) so I'm frequenting this place more than I ought to.

Btw, Q: What is the diff b/n a moderator and an administrator?

Thanks.

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post #20 of 70
EriMac was an Admin.

Admin = you can do just about anything here on this board.

Mod = you are limited..perhaps just the ability to lock/move threads. They cannot (to the best of my knowledge) ban people..only admins can do that.
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post #21 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>

hell if i know... i just remembered it was after sept 11th by a good margin... therefore... i guesstimated.

</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well I figured an administrator would know. No big deal though. The only reason why I know it was Nov. 12th is because that's what it says in my profile as my date of registration.


[quote]shoot me, eric.<hr></blockquote>
Don't give me any ideas, Jonathan
post #22 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by EmAn:
<strong>
Don't give me any ideas, Jonathan </strong><hr></blockquote>

Threats against admin staff are not taken lightly. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> This thread is CLOSED.

J :cool:

PS J/K EmAn, let's see who can shoot him first <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
post #23 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Jamie:
<strong>

Threats against admin staff are not taken lightly. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> This thread is CLOSED.

J :cool:

PS J/K EmAn, let's see who can shoot him first <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" /> </strong><hr></blockquote>

yeah ! my power have increase, i am no able to write in a closed thread ... or is it just that your power have decreased Jamie ?
post #24 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by powerdoc:
<strong>

yeah ! my power have increase, i am no able to write in a closed thread ... or is it just that your power have decreased Jamie ? </strong><hr></blockquote>

No powerdoc it's because I said J/K which stands for Just Kidding

J :cool:
post #25 of 70
I think the adminning and modding is a little too zealous.

/me ducks thrown rotten vegetables

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post #26 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Yet Another Registration:
<strong>I think the adminning and modding is a little too zealous.
</strong><hr></blockquote>

Why do you say that? I'm open to any criticism.

**ducks to avoid rotten criticism

J :cool:
post #27 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Jamie:
<strong>

Why do you say that? I'm open to any criticism.

**ducks to avoid rotten criticism

J :cool: </strong><hr></blockquote>

I think my thread on the state of rumor mill knowledge in FH was different enough from the general "new powerbooks" thread to which you resigned my post. While the movement to kill redundant threads is admirable, the over-reaction to force all related (but not identical) threads is not good for the health of discussion. People who may have already expressd their thoughts in the new powerbook threads might have a different opinion on Motorola's chips themselves, for example, or might be one of the techies around here who can explain things like this.

But seeing a long, and involved thread about a more generalized subject will not attact their notice, thus dampening the chance that discussion will take place.

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post #28 of 70
Moving to suggestions...
post #29 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
<strong>Who were the old Admins?
I remember Eugene being one. Who else was an admin back in the good-old days? PowerDoc, were you one?
</strong><hr></blockquote>

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post #30 of 70
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Since this thread started out in General Discussion, imagine my amusement to see it locked this morning....eventually tracking it over here.

Actually I'll have to agree with Yet Another Registration about the way that some threads have been locked...and here's why:

We all know that a thread wanders off-topic, normally by the time it hits two pages. Most of us try to stay on-topic, but the forces of entropy will eventually have their way with any subject.

At some point, a member is inspired by the conversation to take a new slice at the same subject. They find a particular aspect of the discussion that has DEVELOPED OUT OF the general drift of conversation and decided to yank that idea up by the roots, knock the dirt off of it and put it up on the table IN A NEW THREAD. And here's why that is a GOOD THING.

It advances the conversation on a subject.
It is the "child" of the former topic.
If I come onto a board and a thread has 6 pages devoted to it, I'm going to assume that it has wandered far afield from the original topic. What if that thread's topic doesn't interest me....say it's about the color of the new iMac. If discussions are to be contained to similar threads, how will I know that someone has posted a discussion of a new plastic casting process that may be used for the coloring of the new iMacs which may affect the entire line of Apple products? That for-instance should spawn a new thread shoudn't it?

Okay here's a real for-instance:

I've read a lot of the PDA-related threads in Future Hardware. They all spin off into side discussions at some point. I was discussing the battery-life of the iPod with someone recently and got to wondering what kind of battery life we could expect from an Apple-branded PDA if it took on the same size factor as the iPod. So I started a thread on that subject, hoping to shed some light on how realistic such a device might be through the interpolation of the real-life performance of the iPod.

So I started a thread.

The next time I came back to check on it I saw that it had been locked. For the first time EVER (to memory) I'd had a thread locked! I was so surprised about this actually emailed Jamie asking him which thread I should have posted this discussion into...and he suggested that I search through any number of the existing threads for which to post this discussion.

Now how is anyone going to know that a discussion of the iPod's batter performance in regard to a new PDA is taking place in a thread with an entirely different thread topic...its only relation being the general discussion of PDA's?

So yeah, upon contemplation I'd say that perhaps some of these thread lockings/movings have been carried out a bit too hastily and without consideration of how threads spawn new threads that take an idea and expand that idea into a new area, along a different vector.

Just think about that guys.

Your terrible swift swords are sometimes used too hastily.

Thanks.

[ 07-04-2002: Message edited by: drewprops ]</p>
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post #31 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Jonathan:
<strong>Moving to suggestions...</strong><hr></blockquote>


Chaching $$$! Jonathan is racking up money for MacWorld. <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laughing]" />
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post #32 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by drewprops:
<strong>Since this thread started out in General Discussion, imagine my amusement to see it locked this morning....eventually tracking it over here.

Actually I'll have to agree with Yet Another Registration about the way that some threads have been locked...and here's why:

We all know that a thread wanders off-topic, normally by the time it hits two pages. Most of us try to stay on-topic, but the forces of entropy will eventually have their way with any subject.

At some point, a member is inspired by the conversation to take a new slice at the same subject. They find a particular aspect of the discussion that has DEVELOPED OUT OF the general drift of conversation and decided to yank that idea up by the roots, knock the dirt off of it and put it up on the table IN A NEW THREAD. And here's why that is a GOOD THING.

It advances the conversation on a subject.
It is the "child" of the former topic.
If I come onto a board and a thread has 6 pages devoted to it, I'm going to assume that it has wandered far afield from the original topic. What if that thread's topic doesn't interest me....say it's about the color of the new iMac. If discussions are to be contained to similar threads, how will I know that someone has posted a discussion of a new plastic casting process that may be used for the coloring of the new iMacs which may affect the entire line of Apple products? That for-instance should spawn a new thread shoudn't it?

Okay here's a real for-instance:

I've read a lot of the PDA-related threads in Future Hardware. They all spin off into side discussions at some point. I was discussing the battery-life of the iPod with someone recently and got to wondering what kind of battery life we could expect from an Apple-branded PDA if it took on the same size factor as the iPod. So I started a thread on that subject, hoping to shed some light on how realistic such a device might be through the interpolation of the real-life performance of the iPod.

So I started a thread.

The next time I came back to check on it I saw that it had been locked. For the first time EVER (to memory) I'd had a thread locked! I was so surprised about this actually emailed Jamie asking him which thread I should have posted this discussion into...and he suggested that I search through any number of the existing threads for which to post this discussion.

Now how is anyone going to know that a discussion of the iPod's batter performance in regard to a new PDA is taking place in a thread with an entirely different thread topic...its only relation being the general discussion of PDA's?

So yeah, upon contemplation I'd say that perhaps some of these thread lockings/movings have been carried out a bit too hastily and without consideration of how threads spawn new threads that take an idea and expand that idea into a new area, along a different vector.

Just think about that guys.

Your terrible swift swords are sometimes used too hastily.

Thanks.

[ 07-04-2002: Message edited by: drewprops ]</strong><hr></blockquote>

I just started a thread (in Suggestions) about this very thing (well, I hope that's how it came across). I wish you had started a new thread with the above post before I started mine. You explained it so much better than I did. Basically all I said was the moderators should keep the length of the old threads in mind when locking a new thread on the same subject. I meant to say what you said, though. I swear .
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post #33 of 70
Still waitin' for a reply, Jamie.

Hopefully,

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post #34 of 70
And I'm still waiting.

Sheesh.

I should change my name to "Yet Another Thread Moved for Little or No Reason"

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post #35 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Yet Another Registration:
<strong>And I'm still waiting.

Sheesh.

I should change my name to "Yet Another Thread Moved for Little or No Reason"

<img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" />

TING5</strong><hr></blockquote>

just as a side note--you know you can change the displayed name to whatever you want... so if you wanted you could still be called socfuldot or whatever or there is no G5 or whatever you want... I used to be psantora, now I am Paul.... its in the preferences...
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post #36 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Yet Another Registration:
<strong>And I'm still waiting.

...

I should change my name to "Yet Another Thread Moved for Little or No Reason"
</strong><hr></blockquote>

I'm sorry if you are still waiting, I fail to see where you asked me a question.

As for the thread which I moved today, I'm pretty sure that the iMac is classed as 'Current Hardware'.

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post #37 of 70
I just reviewed the thread about the price drop on iMacs, and I'd have to agree with the original poster. A rumored price cut is not future hardware in the narrowest sense, but traditionally it's been allowed under the umbrella of "future changes to a hardware product line."

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post #38 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Amorph:
<strong>I just reviewed the thread about the price drop on iMacs, and I'd have to agree with the original poster. A rumored price cut is not future hardware in the narrowest sense, but traditionally it's been allowed under the umbrella of "future changes to a hardware product line."

Just FYI. </strong><hr></blockquote>

Ok, just me being pedantic and anal as usual.

TING5, your thread is now back where it came from with a hug and a kiss from me.

J :cool:
post #39 of 70
Hey, can you put me on the list of cool people posting to a suck up thread? Thanks!
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post #40 of 70
[quote]Originally posted by Paul:
<strong>just as a side note--you know you can change the displayed name to whatever you want...</strong><hr></blockquote>How do you do that?

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