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Moved: USB 2.0 vs Firewire: Which should we use?

post #1 of 11
7/31/02 at 8:40am
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Will USB 2.0 really be as fast and flexible as Firewire? If not, should we care that people think it is? If it is, should we worry about those trashing Fireware (and by implication its proponents like Apple and me)?

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post #2 of 11
7/31/02 at 8:45am
no

Use Firewire if possible.
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post #3 of 11
7/31/02 at 8:47am
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APOLOGIES for the "web page" IT was supposed to be a link to a LA Times page telling us the PC iPod will never catch on because PC users would have to put in a $50 Firewire card into their machines [another reason to switch to Apple, since they are included ] and "USB 2.0 is just as flexible and fast." <img src="confused.gif" border="0">
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post #4 of 11
7/31/02 at 8:54am
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[quote]Originally posted by hmurchison:
<strong>no

Use Firewire if possible.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Thank you hmurchison. That is where I am in my thnking, but I wonder why there is the need to claim otherwise? I'm looking forward to all the firewire products that will emerge and I'm using my Cube to pump out music to my little iPod and have played a bit with video on my iMac---luckily I don't own my own video camera, so settle for iPhoto and my Canon G1.
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post #5 of 11
7/31/02 at 8:57am
USB2 is not as fast (on paper and in few circumstances) and flexible as FW. Tests have shown that FW is much faster at streaming, and afaik is there no such thing as USB Target Mode (is it that the FireWire feature is called, that allows a device to be startup volume?).
I will now shut my mouth and leave it up to others to explain the other pros of FW.
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post #6 of 11
7/31/02 at 9:19am
USB is faster in optimal conditions - but requires certain things to run "optimally"

A USB will slow down if there is a slower device on it downstream.
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post #7 of 11
7/31/02 at 9:54am
USB is processor intensive...on average slower, it needs a computer for devices to talk and over all stinky compared to FW. I'm not sure how USB 2.0 even gets any hype because FW has been doing what it does and more for as long as its been out. Once FW 2.0 comes out then that will USB be when its becomes USB 3.0 (880MB/s?)
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post #8 of 11
7/31/02 at 10:06am
Cubit..sorry had to break my message off fast. I think Firewire is taking off nicely. Many of the Taiwanese Mobo manufacturers are going to incorporate Firewire into their mobos. The nvidia nForce has Firewire as well. I doubt that the FW card mentioned is absolutely necessary unless it's special. Apple wants the ipod to succeed but in this case it's not a priority for iPods to excel on windows. Apples seems to have begrudgingly added support due to iPods popularity.


Firewire will make more an more sense when people realize that it's a flexible connection that will soon show up in more consumer electronics. It's future is bright but Apple will have to push the market forward.
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post #9 of 11
7/31/02 at 10:14am
None if this long-haired gobbledy-gook matters... Simple fact is that USB2 is an easy upgrade for USB1, which is already on everybody's machines. Within a year or two, every consumer grade printer, scanner, external CD burner, CompactFlash/Smartmedia/MMC/SD media card reader, etc., is going to be a USB2 device. THAT'S why Apple needs to support USB2.

Firewire will probably continue to dominate the pro market for such devices, simply because it's already entrenched, but consumer grade stuff is going USB2.
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post #10 of 11
7/31/02 at 10:21am
USB 2.0 vs Firewire: Which should we use?

Both

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Don't get me wrong, I like the flat panel iMac, actually own an iMac, and I like the Mac mini, but...........
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post #11 of 11
7/31/02 at 10:53am
Despite the fact that Apple isn't including USB 2.0 on any machines, cards are out there allowing Macs to use USB 2.0.

This is going to general discussion, as it is a 'debate' about USB 2 vs Firewire.
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