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post #161 of 216
You know the mirrored fronts on the current speedholes G4?

I would like to see the next G4 covered in that stuff! Lots of heavy, shiny/polished metal, chrome, and then some circular-brushed buttons and finger screws on it.

Or maybe that is going the wrong direction. Heaviness, solidity, huge size..

Maybe they could make a rigid steel frame, and use the heavy/chrome/mirrored-look drive bays on the front, and then use a space-age synthetic fabric material (waterproof, durable, not going to fray, probably stain-proof like those new Dockers pants, etc) stretched across the frame for the sides and front/back? The top would need to protect against things falling on it, but otherwise I don't see why this would be too much of a problem. (Kids, maybe.. but then, Apple has the easy-open sides, and the glory-hole speakers too, so that's not much of a consideration in a pro machine.) It would even give some benefits, such as superior cooling, it won't get scratched or cracked (might be able to get cut), it would be easily replaceable, extremely light, fire-retardant (won't melt), plus it could give the case a way to easily open (i.e. snaps, zippers, even some kind of velcro perhaps). Just a thought.
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post #162 of 216
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Nice to see my mockups still stand up this long after I did them . I was going to try a doing a new one but...


I wonder who made it into the "Bitchin' Fast" ad.

I wondered who made those. Good job. As for the "bitchin' fast" part, that is a good question...
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post #163 of 216
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Too much like this...



...and not as nice looking IMHO.

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post #164 of 216
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Originally posted by Outsider
But you're right, Apple will never go back to square designs after El Capitan **cough**Cube**TiBook**cough**

ah, touché.

but the cube wasn't a "perfect" cube and it did have rounded edges.

and the tibook...well...that wasn't a square either. more of a rectangle.
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post #165 of 216
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Originally posted by ziploc
Too much like this...



...and not as nice looking IMHO.

-zip

Thanks for the input Zip. Coming up with case concepts is difficult at best. Some people like them, others don't . . . I shared mine to get some responses, to show a comparison to the existing case, and in the hopes that others would share their ideas (heh, two outta three ain't bad).

Speaking for myself, but I'm sure others might appreciate this too, would you create your own concept and share it with us? Think of the exercise as a "brain-storming session".

Some of the criteria I used in the development of my concepts were : continueing similar styling to what Apple is using in recent releases of Pro type Macs (XServe, the "Kong Book", and what I call the "Might Mite" . . . the 12" PowerBook); Expandability on the inside of the case; Accessability with respect to what alot of folks seem to like on the current case and what they like on other cases; Ease of manufacture; COOLING!!!; Low cost; Reliability; Ease of personalization.

The case you displayed wasn't bad (excepting it was an HP Proliant, yech . . ., at least it was a server case though), but it lacks accessability (which I should cut some slack to, because it's a server case), but that may be just hidden by removable panels. I'm usually not impressed by hidden panels, they break off too easily and ruin the overall look of the case after they break off. And I know it says Compaq on the front, the image is from HP.

Thanks Again
post #166 of 216
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Originally posted by ziploc
Too much like this...



...and not as nice looking IMHO.

-zip


Ewwwhhyyack. I respectfully disagree that the above is nice looking. It reminds me of my electric shaver or my neighbor's AC unit.

Looks like a space heater.
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post #167 of 216
Looprumors has confirmed a new case :

April 17, 2003

The notion of Apple introducing a new processor is not a new one. But what will the computer look like? We have just received confirmation from a very reliable source that Apple will introduce a totally redesigned PowerMac system this summer. Some reports suggest that we'll see the new machines previewed at WWDC in June, while others point to a mid-late summer release. We cannot confirm a date, but we have received confirmation that the new processors will be inside of a completely redesigned housing. From other reports, we expect a new redesigned line of displays to accompany the new systems. To nail down a specific timeframe, we are probing our sources, who have been extremely accurate with information on FCP4 release at NAB and software update timelines. We'll have more information on this story available next week.
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post #168 of 216
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Looprumors has confirmed a new case :

Until Apple confirms it by releasing it, I not listen to rumor sites confirming anything. I do think it is a guarantee though, if nothing else, to cement the fact that that this sucker flys!
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post #169 of 216
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Originally posted by bradbower
You know the mirrored fronts on the current speedholes G4?

I would like to see the next G4 covered in that stuff! Lots of heavy, shiny/polished metal, chrome, and then some circular-brushed buttons and finger screws on it.

Or maybe that is going the wrong direction. Heaviness, solidity, huge size..

Maybe they could make a rigid steel frame, and use the heavy/chrome/mirrored-look drive bays on the front, and then use a space-age synthetic fabric material (waterproof, durable, not going to fray, probably stain-proof like those new Dockers pants, etc) stretched across the frame for the sides and front/back? The top would need to protect against things falling on it, but otherwise I don't see why this would be too much of a problem. (Kids, maybe.. but then, Apple has the easy-open sides, and the glory-hole speakers too, so that's not much of a consideration in a pro machine.) It would even give some benefits, such as superior cooling, it won't get scratched or cracked (might be able to get cut), it would be easily replaceable, extremely light, fire-retardant (won't melt), plus it could give the case a way to easily open (i.e. snaps, zippers, even some kind of velcro perhaps). Just a thought.


I like the idea.. Chrome 970 (call it a G5) PowerMac's. Imagine a Chrome dipped PowerBook. I should make one in Maya to see what it would look like..

[EDIT]
But, A PowerMac with the all white iMac look could be a nice departure from the current look too. And would definately cut on costs compared to an all chrome version.
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post #170 of 216
I absolutely love the old Quicksilver towers. The MDD designs were a definite step back for the external asthetic appeal of the towers.

If they could update the Quicksilver design and spruce the case up a bit...**drool**
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post #171 of 216
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Originally posted by Amorph
pscates: That reminds me of the "Dowen Beak G4".

kelib: Sure, El Cap is bigger because of the handles, but since the handles are purely functional, is there really any point to removing them? Especially if you can't think of a more elegant replacement?

Yes there is, the handles are a pain in the ass on small desks. They turn a midtower into an ungodly mass. This may be fine if you never move your el cap and let it be in a single location, ie on your floor, but then what's the function of the handles if you don't move it, eh? In the car it makes it difficult to pack things in and around it and in general it makes it unstable.

I have a more elegant design, a handle on the top, a la the Mac Classic design. An inset that you can slide your hand into to lift, one of the towers in this tread actually has it. You maintian a rectangular, stackable, packable, stable, design and the handle to put it to use.
post #172 of 216
MacWhispers is saying some aluminum (but still mostly plastic)
and "radically different"
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post #173 of 216
With processor changes and "radical" design changes I seriously doubt that it will be called a PowerMac. Time for a new name as well.
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post #174 of 216
No it isn't.

The two iMacs couldn't have been more different and they have the same name. The spiritual successor to the original iMac, the eMac, though completely similar in concept and execution has a different name.

Ah well, there goes that theory.

The powermac will remain a powermac, the name is perfect and the replacement will fill the same space, hence the same name.
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post #175 of 216
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Originally posted by Matsu
The powermac will remain a powermac, the name is perfect and the replacement will fill the same space, hence the same name.

I totally agree. It WILL be called the PowerMac, but will it be called G5 or something completely different to differentiate it from the motorola powered powermacs?
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post #176 of 216
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Originally posted by NETROMac
I totally agree. It WILL be called the PowerMac, but will it be called G5 or something completely different to differentiate it from the motorola powered powermacs?

Nope. They will drop the PowerMac and go to:

pMac

You know Steve's new love with the music industry, he's thinking "We need names like the music stars! PDaddy, 50 cent, jLo! Damned PowerMac is too long! pMac baby! Yeah!"

whoah.
post #177 of 216
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Originally posted by Wondering
...We need names like the music stars! PDaddy, 50 cent, jLo! Damned PowerMac is too long! pMac baby! Yeah!"

whoah.

wow alice,
this is really bad
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... you don't mean music stars you mean R&B and hiphop stars... music stars are like britney spears and... hey, justin timberlake and robbie williams and other idols.... that are long names you know

alternatives: make the box purple and name it "deep" or make it looks like a sigar and name it "led"...
no... no music stars or -groups.
bad idea

powermac is still the best option
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post #178 of 216
Yes, and if they come out with an ad campaign of anything REMOTELY like "Yo, pMac is in da hizzouse!!" I'm buying a Gateway.



post #179 of 216
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Yes, and if they come out with an ad campaign of anything REMOTELY like "Yo, pMac is in da hizzouse!!" I'm buying a Gateway.




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post #180 of 216
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Originally posted by gar
wow alice,
this is really bad
brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... you don't mean music stars you mean R&B and hiphop stars... music stars are like britney spears and... hey, justin timberlake and robbie williams and other idols.... that are long names you know

alternatives: make the box purple and name it "deep" or make it looks like a sigar and name it "led"...
no... no music stars or -groups.
bad idea

powermac is still the best option

Ah yea, R&B and Hip Hop is music there guy. So yea, they'd be music stars.
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post #181 of 216
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Ah yea, R&B and Hip Hop is music there guy. So yea, they'd be music stars.

what the heck...

they are music stars here to... but that was not what i mean
i hate the so called music stars because they are so anoying temporary. michael jackson is also a music star (not temporary, i know) but to keep it short and name the next powermac "waco"?

i just wanted to mention that the so called music stars, wondering mentioned, are R&B stars with funky names only. i think it is bad for apple to be associated with gangster, getto, big titty bitch yoh bro bend over everything is sex etc. kind of (sub) culture.

the only culture apple has to be associated with is it's own culture and they doing that just fine imho. it doesn't matter what you are (or think you are) as long as you use a mac your cool.

i know it's great when you are at a concert and you see 2-3 glowing apples on stage, but by using rockstar like names for it's products, apple will make it hard to sell computers to everyone, because not all customers wanted to be associated with the lifestyle of those. well, okay i don't, it's not my culture. (and that doesn't mean i don't enjoy hiphop or r&b music, there is a lot i like but i don't like that horny big d*** pumped up ego stuff)

this is so offtopic i know, sorry...
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post #182 of 216
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Originally posted by job
I absolutely love the old Quicksilver towers. The MDD designs were a definite step back for the external asthetic appeal of the towers.

If they could update the Quicksilver design and spruce the case up a bit...**drool**

The biggest problem with the MDD is the design of the vent holes at the front. Looks a bit cheap to me. If they'd move the speaker back to it's original position and redesign the vents it could be a nice looking case.
But we'll hopefully see something more radical than that when the new powermac is presented
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post #183 of 216
Or how about a cool little color touchscreen lcd on the front. First of all it would function as a power-switch that when at sleep is showing a sleeping phanter or something. Push the screen and the phanter wakes up (and the mac too hopefully). You could program it to show everything you want like processor/case temb, I/O troughput, a picture of the current big cat installed or whatever. When you tap the lcd while the mac is on it could show power off options like sleep, hibernate, shut-down or restart. You get the idea. Cool or stupid?
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post #184 of 216
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Originally posted by NETROMac
Or how about a cool little color touchscreen lcd on the front. First of all it would function as a power-switch that when at sleep is showing a sleeping phanter or something. Push the screen and the phanter wakes up (and the mac too hopefully). You could program it to show everything you want like processor/case temb, I/O troughput, a picture of the current big cat installed or whatever. When you tap the lcd while the mac is on it could show power off options like sleep, hibernate, shut-down or restart. You get the idea. Cool or stupid?

I like the idea of having a programming screen on the front of the case. Might be more useful on an xServe, but it would be cool, especially if it was full color on a PowerMac.

Just think of the kinds of hacks people would come up with for it. Screw those PC Case Badges , we've got QT Movies on our case!

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post #185 of 216
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Originally posted by ziploc
Too much like this...



...and not as nice looking IMHO.

-zip

I think this is a nice evolution.

Does anyone think they will alter the size dramatically?
post #186 of 216
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Originally posted by salmonstk
I think this is a nice evolution.

With the look of that cases a normal evolution would be something like this:



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Originally posted by salmonstk
Does anyone think they will alter the size dramatically?

Not dramatically no, but a little trimmed on all sides maybe. I think the new design will be very clean and elegant while hopefully retaining the same accessability as the current case.
Oh and with a small full-color lcd-screen at the front
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post #187 of 216
ajprice. nice.

I think this is the most likely tower design I've seen so far.

Sleek. Uncluttered. Simple.

Something like this I think we'll get. In keeping with what Apple are doing with their Powerbooks.

Lemon Bon Bon.

Re: the handles. It's too el Cap'. Time to let the handles go ala iBook. Unless you hump the tower as often as you pick up a coffee mug, you don't need them. If you use the handles that often, get a laptop. Bring on the 'no handles' tower.
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post #188 of 216
OK, I mentioned earlier that I was working on other views.

And I took some of the suggestions, and tried to incorporate them. I kinda doubt that I'll
please everybody, but I honestly tried to round things a bit, and show the recessed handle etc.
Here ya go :



Special thanks to Outsider for the assist!

I moved the rear view to conserve space. The rest follows a typical 3 view format.
post #189 of 216
MacJedai, getting better, but could you try to make the black parts in dark grey instead. Would give it a subtler look I think.
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post #190 of 216
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Originally posted by NETROMac
MacJedai, getting better, but could you try to make the black parts in dark grey instead. Would give it a subtler look I think.

I'll see what I can do. I was also playing with anodized aluminum effects too. The LCD panel could be a little hard to place wo/ making it look like a last minute addition.

I was also thinking that I'd have enough room for another HDD tray to allow the case to accommodate a total of 6 HDDs (but they would be "shoe-horned" into the case). All I can say is . . . Stay tuned
post #191 of 216
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Regarding handles in general: They're only functional when you are moving it. The one or two times a year you move it at work or maybe never in your house (in my case) almost make it gimmicky. IMHO of course.
post #192 of 216
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Originally posted by Outsider
Regarding handles in general: They're only functional when you are moving it. The one or two times a year you move it at work or maybe never in your house (in my case) almost make it gimmicky. IMHO of course.

It isn't uncommon for college students and young-professionals to move at least once a year. Upon moving into a new house or apartment, interior furnishings are normally moved around a few times before finding a suitable location.

For some people, handles are very important.

Imagine: You've just finished moving the contents of a 24ft UHaul into your new house and crack a frosty one before setting up the computer... After 11 hours of excruciating work, your back is sore and gentleness is all but gone from your touch. Handles just might make the difference between setting the computer down gently and dropping it 4 inches onto a table-top... But who needed the head for that second HD platter anyway


Handles are useless most of the time as is homeowners fire-insurance. The question is, how much insurance against dropping your machine do you want to buy? I personally find a few bucks spent on plastic handles to be a reasonable level of insurance on expensive electronics.
post #193 of 216
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With that logic everything in the house should have handles. I move my coffee table more than my Mac. Why doesn't it have handles? Why doesn't the iBook, Powerbook, iMac have handles? Face it, handles on the PowerMac were purely ornimental with the convinient side effect of it being practical for occasional moves offset by the disadvantage of it adding 2 inches to the overall height. Handles on the Tower have their days numbered. At least in their 4 cornered configuration.
post #194 of 216
powermacs are slightly heavy and slightly akward..thus you have a handle...lift up easier, put down softer...

iBook and PB are light and easy to lift and lower without a handle

cube was small and light and had no handle

iMac classic had a handle
iMac2 has the metal arm as a handle

not sure about the eMac


a handle, if not ugly and misplaced, is a great thing on a tower....now if the 970 case is basically a larger cube theme...then no handle is needed....

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post #195 of 216
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not sure about the eMac

The eMac does not have a handle, yet it's bulky and heavy.

With these Apple Stores in malls, the eMac is a great machine to have to lug in from your car to get it checked on.

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post #196 of 216
Handles are convenient, but there is no reason why they have to be as "in your face" as they are now. Why not just design a nice fold up handle on the top of the case making it perfectly balanced when you carry it. A lighter case would also be convenient.
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At WWDC in June, the Power Mac G5 will be introduced.
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Introduced, or demonstrated?
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introduced, or demonstrated?

you tell us moki





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Originally posted by moki
Introduced, or demonstrated?

Well since Moki asked... I'll give my .02 cents.

"Demonstrated" would be my call. Why? Well to me it wouldn't be out of the question to hear that while 32 bit apps should run unmodified on the 970 the same couldn't be said for the OS. Heck maybe I'm wrong but I don't think so.

So with that being said....

The 970 will be demo'd at WWDC with a ship date of 'insert ship date for Panther' heck maybe even giving some developers a chance to buy 'one offs' (pre-production models) so they can get to work with any code changes they might like to tinker with now that the PPC is 64bit.

The problem is still as follows...

WWDC is set for June (23rd - 27th). Panther ... while I don't know it's time table I'm assuming it'll be set for sometime in Sep. (end of Aug if they 'get lucky')

That means Apple would have 'super flat' desktop sales for June July and Aug. I include all of June since by then the feaver pitch over the 970 being seen @ WWDC will have hit a level where lots more mac fans as well as potential 'switchers' will 'wait it out' just to see what happens.

Fred Anderson has stated that Apples Q2 forecast would be 'flat'

Q2 = Apr / May / Jun = Flat
Q3 = Jul / Aug / Sep = Flat (unless Apple can hit with the 970 really early in Sep)
Q4 = Oct / Nov / Dec = UP would be my guess!

Yea, okay, after looking at it maybe they'd be okay after all...

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