Ed M sez:
[quote] Yeah man... And I'd rather be watchin' the paint peel or the grass grow or hangn' out with some attractive women. Give me a break. As if there is nothing else people would want to do other than "render lightwave scenes" lol <hr></blockquote>
What the hell kind of response was that, ed?
[quote] You mean that anomalictic (<-is this even a word) market called bioinformatics? You know, one of the only ones that is _growing_ and buying machines. And thanks to the crappy g4's altivec is romping, stomping and tromping pcs and increasing apple's market share in that field?
(We won't even mention that fact that scientists _love_ the fact they can Blast DNA _and_ use word,powerpoint,photoshop and a friendly to use Unix called OSX. and that has nothing to do with megahertz) <hr></blockquote>
Perhaps Apple can make a living selling G4s to the bioinformatics industry. <img src="graemlins/oyvey.gif" border="0" alt="[No]" /> Somehow, I don't think they'd be around much longer if that was the only market buying their machines... Of course, we can't leave out the BILLIONS of people who get paid to watch their machines churn away at RC5, too...
[quote] Yep. Lightwave does render faster on PCs. Of course if you are pro, why not buy a clone pc for $600 bucks and render those scenes at night on it (unless i am wrong 7.5 lightwave lets you take the usb dongle off and install it on a pc and a mac. move that dongle onto the pc at night(yah yah when you are developing its might be a little slower. which is what i stated in my first post.)) if time is money then 3d people should be able to afford that. <hr></blockquote>
Why shouldn't the Mac be able to handle all of it as quickly as a PC? Why should I HAVE to buy a PC just to get the grunt work done? That's kind of pathetic, don't you think?
[quote] replace "lightwave" with "blast" and switch mac and PC in the paragraph above and you can an idea of what some PC guys are going thru now
I think you mean switch "Lightwave, After Effects, ProEngineer, EarthVision, Vulcan, IDL, SPICE, ArcINFO, and a slew of other apps" for "blast"...
[quote] For some that may be true. But my point was that there are plenty of people that if the GP-UL was shipping tommorrow, would still stick with their ibooks. <hr></blockquote>
Are you sure it wasn't a stab at LBB?
[quote] Hopefuilly this time next year we will be argueing over better things like the dumb name of the "GigaMac" <hr></blockquote>
I certainly hope so.
[quote] Anyone who's actually used one will tell you these machines are FAST. I got the brief chance to try out a dual 1.25GHz yesterday, and I must say I was impressed. <hr></blockquote>
Tell you what, on that dual 1.25, in a web browser, try loading a long page (like one of the pages in this thread), and then move the thumb of the scrollbar from top to bottom as fast as you can. There's a noticable lag (a fraction of a second), at least there was on the dual gig mirror-door Powermac I tried it on at the Apple store at the Biltmore a couple of days ago. On a dual 867, it's larger, on a 17" iMac it's quite noticable. On my QS733, it's more than a second. On the HP Kayak (800MHz PIII) I use at work, there is no lag. Nor is there one on my Duron 1.1GHz at home. What does this mean? Well, OS X still needs a bit of work, for one thing, but more importantly, Apple's hardware needs a BIG boost.
[quote] It may loose to Intel in some benchmarks, and it may be expensive, but this machine runs incredibly well. How can you call it crap? <hr></blockquote>
Does it run as well as a $3300 PC, though? Hell, for that matter, does it run as well as a $2000 PC, or a $1650 PC?
[quote] I will admit PowerMacs are expensive, but when you pay more you get more. Despite being slower than some PCs, Macs are always more usable. When you buy a Mac, you're paying for a better experience. <hr></blockquote>
The problem is, fewer and fewer people are willing to pay that premium. In the past, Macs at least had comparable performance with top end PCs, even if they did have a price premium. If Apple charges a premium, so be it-- but twice as much for half the performance just doesn't fly with anyone but the hardcore Mac-faithful.